DOJ releases more information on what they seized at Mar-Lago – “The list shows that there is ample reason for an independent person to review”

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It appears that the DOJ can release information when it is compelled to do so. In this case, the DOJ just released a more detailed list of items that could have been released previously without any danger to the investigation or national security (foxnews.com/politics/trump…)

The Justice Department on Friday filed a more detailed list of documents taken in its raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, including dozens of classified documents and folders with classified markings.
 
Also included was a wide assortment of other items, including over 1,000 documents that did not have classified markings, several “Article of Clothing/Gift Item” entries and hundreds of printed news articles.

…Notably, in a footnote in its earlier filing, the DOJ said it could release more information on what it collected in “extraordinary circumstances.” It did so as part of its effort avoid the appointment of a Special Master
 
…Notably, the list includes further evidence of the overbroad seizure, including several “Article of Clothing/Gift Item” entries and hundreds of printed news articles. Yet, the DOJ previously stated that it should not have to give back any such material. …The DOJ may hope that its release of information might be enough to prompt the Court to abandon its earlier indication that it wants to appoint a special master. The judge pressed the DOJ yesterday on some untenable arguments against such an appointment
 
…That includes the absurd position that a special master would threaten national security. The list shows that there is ample reason for an independent person to review was was seized and what should be returned. …The filing also reaffirms that the DOJ views this as an “active criminal investigation.” With its earlier statement that it believes that there was obstructive conduct, the statement seems to further commit the DOJ to the path of possible prosecution.

 

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Trump broke no laws and, rightly, CANNOT be indicted.

Nice try.

Who, besides the hand-picked Trump-hating agents that raided Trump’s home saw what they picked up? You wouldn’t expect them to bring folders with actual classified documents in them, would you?

They treat this as a “criminal investigation” because it gives them an excuse to withhold information. It’s a “crime search”, a search for a crime to charge, not an investigation of a suspected crime.

Can you even imagine we are here?
A witch hunt carried out by joe’s FBI collecting empty folders all just to take up media time and column inches to distract and cover up joe’s extreme incompetence.
OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!

09/03/22 – William Barr defends FBI and justice department over Mar-a-Lago search

Former attorney general William Barr came to the defense of the FBI and the justice department’s (DoJ) judicial request to search Donald Trump’s Florida home and country club compound last month, saying Friday that documents seized in the search appeared to support the department’s claims of a national security risk.

“As more information comes out, the actions of the department look more understandable,” Barr told the New York Times in an interview.

“It seems to me they were driven by concern about highly sensitive information being strewn all over a country club, and it was taking them almost two years to get it back,” he said.

The former attorney general, who resigned in December 2020 as Trump ramped up his claims that the election has been rigged, also dismissed Trump’s call for an independent review of materials confiscated from Mar-a-Lago by a “special master”.

“I think it’s a crock of shit,” Barr said. “I don’t think a special master is called for.”

Barr has become increasingly critical of Trump since leaving office, though he declined to pursue criminal charges against the former president over alleged Russian collusion during the 2106 election while he served as Trump’s top prosecutor.

A 2019 DoJ memo released last month showed that prosecutors concluded that none of Trump’s actions at that time were actionable under criminal statutes.

To the current controversy over classified documents, Barr said he found it “hard to wrap your head around him taking so much sensitive material”, and that it appeared “there’s been a lot of jerking around of the government” over classified materials, he said he was uncertain about the potential for a prosecution…

Barr is a dirtbag

@Greg
The actions of the FBI are fully understandable. Idiot Biden is a failure, he fears running against Trump and having to use even MORE fraud to win than in 2020, so he told the FBI to raid his home and try and find a crime. No mystery there.

Barr is a dirtbag

Why do all of Trump’s picks for important postings turn out to be dirt bags once he’s done using them?

Either they’re not, or Trump’s judgement can’t be trusted. Take your pick.

@Greg
Why do you suddenly believe Barr when you wanted him drawn and quartered for declaring the Mueller report cleared Trump?

Was it actually William Barr who claimed Trump had been ‘totally exonerated’?

@Greg
You don’t remember his summation that you all wanted him executed for issuing? You really DO have selective/revisionist memory, don’t you?

Pop quiz: Who said this, in August 2016?

“In my administration, I’m going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law.”

Here is what happens after Adolph biden Hitler declares open season on his political opposition.

Wretched Leftists Taunt Ashli’s Babbitt’s Mother and J6 Prisoners Outside DC Gitmo: ‘You’re a F*cking Dumb B*tch! I Hope you Sh*t Watery Diarrhea For The Rest Of Your Life’

@Greg
Who said this:

“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”

Wretched Leftists Taunt Ashli’s Babbitt’s Mother…

A staged video, featuring a “leftist” crowd of three, courtesy of Gateway Pundit, by way of Rumble…

Well… there are good insurrections and bad ones, apparently. Depends on what the media deems it.

greggie, Barr was pushed on Trump by the Bushes to sabotage him!

09/03/22 – FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Trump’s Florida home


In the interview, Barr added that he saw no “legitimate reason” for Trump having documents at his Florida estate if they were classified.

He added, “I frankly am skeptical of this claim (by Trump) that ‘I declassified everything.’ Because frankly I think it’s highly improbable and second, if he sort of stood over scores of boxes not really knowing what was in them and said ‘I hereby declassify everything in here,’ that would be such an abuse, show such recklessness that it’s almost worse than taking the documents.”

I’m sure he carefully reviewed each of the 11 thousand boxed government records before performing the Magical Rite of Declassification.

@Greg

It doesn’t say those were classified, scooter.

Obama took 30,000,000 documents. You think those were all only about Michelle’s sex reassignment surgeries?

I’m sure he carefully reviewed each of the 11 thousand boxed government records before performing the Magical Rite of Declassification.

Just like Obama did with the millions he took, sure.

Trump committed no crimes. Democrats CAN’T WIN in November. From student loan bribes to assaulting the Supreme Court to raiding Trump…they CAN’T WIN and are flailing like the dying beast they are.

Voters will put them out of their misery at the ballot box, and the rest of us will stop the expected fraud at the ballot box with cameras, volunteers, and the Law.

Never again.

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The DOJ is the new biden Geatapo

Rules for Radicals, Number 8:

“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

That’s all Mar-a-lago is. Another hoax, another distraction.

I notice none of those rules for taking power include presenting superior ideas, policies and programs.

Does the GOP even have ideas, other than overturning elections, denying women abortions after rape and incest, denying them emergency medical care in connection with miscarriages, cutting taxes for the wealthy, and kicking the props out from under Social Security and Medicare? Maybe someone could post a list, rather than just claiming that they do.

I notice none of those rules for taking power include presenting superior ideas, policies and programs.

Does the GOP even have ideas, other than overturning elections, denying women abortions after rape and incest, denying them emergency medical care in connection with miscarriages, cutting taxes for the wealthy, and kicking the props out from under Social Security and Medicare? Maybe someone could post a list, rather than just claiming that they do.

Repeating your already failed talking points makes you look like an idiot.

More than look…confirms to the rest of us.

The election was rigged. Asking questions is not “overturning” anything. That’s what the criminal who rigged the election would say, to cover. You people know you did it…you just don’t think it’s wrong.

No woman has been forced to keep a child from rape or incest. None. Even if so, it’s such a small number as to be ignored. Meh.

The Malthusian Death Cult is being destroyed, one healthy birth at a time.

The Wealthy are Democrats. They are cronies. Biden is a crony. He paid helped Pfizer make Trillions by killing Americans with withheld treatments to line the pockets of his donors, for one example.

There are large Medicare providers who donated to install Biden. They want their money back, which is why you’re screaming about it. You’re being used as a pawn to get rich assholes richer, at the expense of the poor and the middle class.

Maybe someone could post a list, rather than just claiming that they do.

We routinely post proof and lists. You never do.

@Greg
Hmm… let me think. I think a growing economy that benefitted EVERYONE, especially women, blacks and Hispanics. Energy independence was a great idea, one that made us independent of foreign, inconsistent suppliers. That was such a great idea that it made our energy prices very reasonable, a condition that, again, benefitted the lower and middle classes the most. Securing our southern border was a pretty damn good idea, not only greatly reducing illegal immigration, but also criminals, human trafficking and drug trade. Negotiating monumental and historic peace deals between Israel and some of her former adversaries was another pretty good one. Making NATO stronger and more responsible for their own military strength was an idea that, as we can see now with the war that idiot Biden enabled to be launched against Ukraine, paid off dividends pretty quickly. I also think fighting crime and opposing political violence was a far better idea than supporting criminals over victims and enabling, excusing, inciting and promoting political violence, which Democrats think is a wonderful idea.

Yeah, I actually think Republicans, especially when led by Trump (or someone with his ideology). It is the Democrats with a big bag of nothing except for fascism, totalitarianism and oppression to FORCE ideas no one really wants upon the nation.

Do the democrats even have ideas, other than open borders, skyrocketing inflation, endless wars, weaponization of the justice department, a drag queen in every classroom, transgender on demand, deficit spending beyond our means etc, etc. Maybe someone could post a list, rather than just claiming that they do.

Uh huh. So tell us about those superior GOP ideas, and how you imagine they’ll work.

I don’t think you have a clue what they are. You’re too busy worrying about the menace of somebody else’ sexual orientation.

Uh huh. So tell us about those GOP superior ideas, and how you imagine they’ll work.

You saw them under Trump, and they worked. It’s not an opinion…it’s fact. You losers want power, not good things for the American People.

This is about the same now as then:

The GOP Platform.

Better than printing money, letting Putin invade countries, higher prices, arresting free citizens for their political views, paying off lesbian-dance degrees, letting LGBT reprobates have sex with our children, and raiding former presidents you can’t beat in a legal election….

I saw four years of growing civil unrest, increasing national divisions, emerging political extremism, a roll-back of regulation intended to protect the environment and American consumers, the blatant misuse of official powers, irresponsible tax cuts, growing mistrust among our allies, increasing boldness among our geopolitical adversaries, denial that climate change is a threat, pandering to corporate power, another epic upward shift of wealth, and the stacking of the Supreme Court, culminating in an attack on our democratic election system and a violent attempt to avoid removal from office by disrupting a constitutional process. And he STILL won’t go the hell away.

@Greg

I saw four years of growing civil unrest, increasing national divisions, emerging political extremism

Hell, those were ALL DEMOCRATS! Every damn bit of it! All leftists because they didn’t like the outcome of the last legal Presidential election we have ever had.

a roll-back of regulation intended to protect the environment and American consumers

And the environment did not suffer one damn bit. All needless and pointless regulations that cost the CONSUMERS money.

irresponsible tax cuts,

Tax cuts that benefited everyone, grew the economy and resulted in RECORD HIGH tax revenues.

growing mistrust among our allies

Our alliances were stronger than ever before and our allies began kicking in their requisite share. Unlike their disregard for idiot Biden, they respected Trump. As we can see with Europe, they would have done well to have heeded his advice. No threats from China and no invasions by Russia under Trump. Sadly for the world, idiot Biden cannot make the same claim.

denial that climate change is a threat,

Climate change is a left wing, money-grubbing farce.

Idiot Biden is on the full dole from big business, as well as China. Trump did what was best for the nation in every action; idiot Biden does what is best for Democrat accumulation of power and the Biden Crime Family.

I saw four years of growing civil unrest, increasing national divisions, emerging political extremism, a roll-back of regulation intended to protect the environment and American consumers, the blatant misuse of official powers, irresponsible tax cuts, growing mistrust among our allies, increasing boldness among our geopolitical adversaries, denial that climate change is a threat, pandering to corporate power, another epic upward shift of wealth, and the stacking of the Supreme Court, culminating in an attack on our democratic election system and a violent attempt to avoid removal from office by disrupting a constitutional process. And he STILL won’t go the hell away.

You saw an establishment trade their honor in exchange for becoming a banana republic….instead of honoring the Will of the People.

Trump dismantled and destroyed your Party’s agenda, tis true.

And the nation, and world, was better for it.

Saying the country “isn’t respected” means nothing. Putin invading says that they “don’t respect the country.”

You can’t tell the difference between reality as defined by logic and action against simple media talking points.

Democrats bypassed our elections and constitutional processes. They also pursued global totalitarianism under the weak guise of the “ESG.”

Trump did well, and we were better for it. It’s fact, by the numbers.

Now people are getting poor, Putin is invading Europe, we GAVE the Taliban our weapons and surrendered, and we continue to suffer an unelected regime that no one wants.

And he STILL won’t go the hell away.

Indeed, he and over 100 million of us WON’T go away because this is our country.

Not yours.

We’ll dig you treasonous bastards out of our country….eventually.

We’ll also save a bit on Social Security payments, in your case. You’re a disgrace.

Every single Republican idea is better than any democrat idea

You still haven’t mentioned any Republican ideas. They have no coherent platform. They didn’t in 2016, either. They had a sales pitch, devoid of specific details.

Every single Republican idea is better than any democrat idea

You still haven’t mentioned any Republican ideas. They have no coherent platform. They didn’t in 2016, either. They had a sales pitch, devoid of specific details.

It was already given. You are not rational, and therefore not qualified to vote or hold any idea about our Republic.

We’ll take it from here.

@ goosey looseystepper

You still haven’t mentioned any Republican ideas.

First is to try to correct all the democrat F’Ups.
Stop excessive government waste
Get back to energy independence
Fill the reserves Biden is draining
Secure the border
DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT
Make peace
Stop funding the most corrupt nation on the planet
Put a huge huge wrench in Bidens human trafficking
Look hard at how politicains in DC are becoming filthy rich on a public servants salary.
Want more Nazi boi?
Look at who is showing up at Trump rallies

Full energy independence

Round up all illegal aliens and send them back to where they came from.

Establish two genders only

Dismantle the entire administrative state

That’s not a platform. It’s a sales pitch. It’s like saying “We’ll fix Social Security,” without telling anyone how you plan to do it. The GOP’s most recent “plan” involved diverting social security taxes into private investment funds, with no suggestion how they’d continue to fund current retirees after redirecting all that revenue. It couldn’t be replaced from general revenue without huge tax increases.

Full energy independence? If it happened with fossil fuels it wouldn’t last for long. Only renewable sources hold that possibility.

How do you plan to “round up” and remove 15.5 million undocumented aliens without turning America into Nazi Germany?

What do you mean by “establishing two genders?” Maybe we need a national dress code, or separate classrooms like the Taliban has?

Dismantle the entire administrative state? You can’t run a nation without a professional administrative structure. It’s not possible.

@Greg

That’s not a platform. It’s a sales pitch.

It doesn’t matter what you call it, it worked and was GREAT for the nation and the citizens.

Full energy independence? If it happened with fossil fuels it wouldn’t last for long. Only renewable sources hold that possibility.

Yeah, probably only another 200 years. I guess you think it’s better to Californicate the entire country?

How do you plan to “round up” and remove 15.5 million undocumented aliens without turning America into Nazi Germany?

First, thanks to Democrats, the number is more like 30 million. But, you don’t have to round them up; just stop subsidizing them. If you don’t have legal resident papers, no free health care, no subsidized housing, no subsidized food, no education, no path to citizenship, no jobs. Also, when you capture a criminal that is an illegal immigrant, deport them instead of releasing them back into the community. It ain’t rocket science. Most important of all, secure the border.

What do you mean by “establishing two genders?” Maybe we need a national dress code, or separate classrooms like the Taliban has?

It means to stop subsidizing, aiding and abetting the mental illness of gender dysphoria. If a person wants to mutilate and destroy their own bodies, they can go right ahead, but the taxpayer is not on the hook for it and child predators should not be allowed to go around the backs of parents, who are actually responsible for what the children do, to destroy their minds and indoctrinate them into a cult of mental illness.

Dismantle the entire administrative state? You can’t run a nation without a professional administrative structure. It’s not possible.

Remember when Democrats brought about the government shutdown under Obama? No one even noticed, so Obama had to take steps to make the shutdown painful to the citizens. Much of the federal leviathan can be totally eliminated.

Yo Goose,

a roll-back of regulation intended to protect the environment and American consumers,

Who died or got ill because of this?
Regulations meant to keep competition from the bottom, small companies choked out of competition for the lack of human resources for f’kn paperwork.
Hey Blackrock just bought a DNA gathering company pretty nosey these guys, the agenda rolls on.

It’s like saying “We’ll fix Social Security,” without telling anyone how you plan to do it.

And the Democrats fix? They don’t have one but no problem, blame that on the Republicans. Never mind that Social Security is the greatest example that politicians are not investment bankers and should not be making unConstitutional laws that never get repealed.

Full energy independence? If it happened with fossil fuels it wouldn’t last for long.

How long would it last, Nostradamus?

Only renewable sources hold that possibility.

Just look west for a great example of “climate change” insanity (once called global warming). Jennifer Granholm says California is a role model. Nothing like sitting in the dark in 90’s temperatures.

How do you plan to “round up” and remove 15.5 million undocumented aliens without turning America into Nazi Germany?

You don’t “round them up.” We fine, and arrest, employers who are illegally hiring those who are illegally coming into our nation. No more anchor baby welfare. Instead of giving illegals a free flight in the middle of the night to all points north, fly them to the southern most tip of the nations they come from.

What do you mean by “establishing two genders?” Maybe we need a national dress code, or separate classrooms like the Taliban has?

What ever your DNA says you are. But then, you lefties are so smart you put a woman on the USSC that doesn’t know what a woman is.

Dismantle the entire administrative state? You can’t run a nation without a professional administrative structure. It’s not possible.

Government should not resemble the Mafia. But it does, and has since the days of FDR.

Stupidity may be one of the nation’s most easily-exploited natural resources.

@Greg

Stupidity may be one of the nation’s most easily-exploited natural resources.

What is it you always say about pointless, nonsensical responses? You asked a specific question and got very detailed answers that are actually backed up with real evidence. Stupid is certainly playing a large part in your decision making process.

greggie, stupidity is how the Democrats have gained power!

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Stupidity may be one of the nation’s most easily-exploited natural resources.

I’ve seen plenty of on the street victims of our “educational” system.

Simple history (who did the US win independence from)or geography (name 3 countries, they named states) even a question what language to they speak in Ohio was a failed question. Yes mostly outside of colleges.
Then they become MSM experts.

It doesn’t matter what you call it, it worked and was GREAT for the nation and the citizens.

Therein lies the problem. What is good for Americans is not good for the tyrannical left.

Full energy independence? If it happened with fossil fuels it wouldn’t last for long. Only renewable sources hold that possibility.

Fossil fuels are renewable. It is part of the geological make-up of the earth. The left still thinks oil came from the dinosaurs perhaps. It is quite unlikely we will never exhaust the supply.

Yeah, probably only another 200 years. I guess you think it’s better to Californicate the entire country?

The California model is a model for complete regression to an undeveloped status.

How do you plan to “round up” and remove 15.5 million undocumented aliens without turning America into Nazi Germany?

Dust off “Operation Wetback” from the Eisenhower days. It can be done and has been done. What history fails to record properly is that when the Eisenhower plan was implemented, self-deportation was actually a larger number than the numbers of illegal who were caught and then deported.

First, thanks to Democrats, the number is more like 30 million. But, you don’t have to round them up; just stop subsidizing them. If you don’t have legal resident papers, no free health care, no subsidized housing, no subsidized food, no education, no path to citizenship, no jobs. Also, when you capture a criminal that is an illegal immigrant, deport them instead of releasing them back into the community. It ain’t rocket science. Most important of all, secure the border.

Without a secure border, we do not have a nation. And the globalist agenda is the removal of nation state to perpetuate a one world government.

What do you mean by “establishing two genders?” Maybe we need a national dress code, or separate classrooms like the Taliban has?

God created Man and Woman, nothing else. Abandonment of God has brought us to this satanic place in a sick culture.

It means to stop subsidizing, aiding and abetting the mental illness of gender dysphoria. If a person wants to mutilate and destroy their own bodies, they can go right ahead, but the taxpayer is not on the hook for it and child predators should not be allowed to go around the backs of parents, who are actually responsible for what the children do, to destroy their minds and indoctrinate them into a cult of mental illness.

Dismantle the entire administrative state? You can’t run a nation without a professional administrative structure. It’s not possible. Total bullshit

Remember when Democrats brought about the government shutdown under Obama? No one even noticed, so Obama had to take steps to make the shutdown painful to the citizens. Much of the federal leviathan can be totally eliminated.