funny thing happened in the impeachment trial of President Trump. Thanks to revelations regarding Trump and Ukraine from former National Security Adviser John Bolton, the trial went from being a speedy, all-but-certain path to acquittal to a potentially lengthy quagmire. But the timing of the Bolton bombshell might actually benefit Trump and Senate Republicans by preventing another round of impeachment, and allowing the GOP to dispose of this issue for good.
Trump’s legal team had just taken over the dais in the Senate impeachment trial, speaking to a Republican caucus ready for a quick acquittal. Democrats demanded testimony from Bolton, a move that Republicans had largely united to oppose. It appeared that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s argument that the Senate should not have to reopen the House investigation for impeachment would carry the day.
And then, Bolton testified anyway — albeit indirectly.
The New York Times published leaks from “multiple people” who had read the final draft of Bolton’s memoir, which is still under review by the National Security Council to protect any classified information that might have been included. Those sources told the Times and later The Washington Post that Bolton declared that Trump had demanded Ukraine conduct an investigation of the Bidens in exchange for congressionally appropriated military aid. The account appeared to rebut Trump’s oft-repeated denial of demanding a quid pro quo for aid Congress had already approved and Trump had signed into law. Furthermore, Bolton’s account reportedly contradicted earlier denials from both Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Attorney General William Barr.
Suddenly, Democratic House impeachment managers who had just concluded their presentation to the Senate saw an opening to increase pressure for subpoenas, especially for Bolton. Some Senate Republicans seemed open to the idea as well, worried about how it would look to have Bolton’s account made public without consideration at the trial. McConnell’s unity appeared to fray in the first 48 hours after the leak as GOP moderates talked about cutting deals for a witness trade.
Others, especially Trump, pushed back hard against the leak. Trump went on Twitter almost immediately to emphatically deny the description of Bolton’s account, accusing Bolton of cooking it up to “sell a book.” Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani called Bolton “John the Backstabber” while insisting the account was false. The RNC amplified Trump’s charge by questioning the timing in a statement noting “how convenient” it was that the leak came “at the same time preorders” on Amazon could first be placed. White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham picked up on the timing argument, calling it “very, very suspect” that the revelations came just after Trump’s defense team had begun its presentation.
The timing is notable, but not necessarily because it handicaps Trump.
Bear in mind that the publication date for Bolton’s memoir was in less than two months. The certainty that Bolton would speak out by mid-March one way or the other put Senate Republicans in an extremely uncomfortable position. If they voted to acquit Trump without knowing what Bolton had to say, the outcome would be widely seen as illegitimate. It might have even pushed House Democrats to vote a new article of impeachment on the basis of Bolton’s memoir and force the Senate back into a trial, but at the very least it would have made for campaign fodder against vulnerable Senate Republican incumbents this fall.
Now, however, the leak lets Republicans off the hook, even if still leaves Trump on it. Trump may not have told the truth in his outright denials on the quid pro quo allegation, but at least Senate Republicans now know that for certain. The New York Times leak put the worst possible conclusion from Bolton where they can openly consider it and then still move to the alternate argument. After all, as former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy writes at National Review, there is no need to deny the quid pro quo because it’s a moot point — the aid went without strings attached in the end, and it didn’t rise to the “high crimes and misdemeanors” bar anyway.
Trump’s legal team subtly shifted its presentation to emphasize this point after the leak. Alan Dershowitz told the Senate on Monday that a “quid pro quo alone is not a basis for abuse of power … based on mixed or sole motives.” In fact, Dershowitz said, “nothing in the Bolton revelations — even if true — would rise to the level of an abuse of power.”
@Ronald J. Ward: I can see the liberal trolls are out in force, already outraged with the inevitable acquittal of Donald Trump either tomorrow or Saturday.
it’s really sad to know there are Americans that are that stupid and that duped by the Democrats.
this case never had any legal basis, much less any real evidence to justify the impeachment. Anyone with a brain knows that.
Trump started to dig into Democrat corruption, and this farce of an impeachment is the counter-attack.
He’s pulling these parasites out of our government, and of course they’re going to cling on for dear life.
They’re a bunch of beta males and weak women who are looking to get rich on the public’s dime.
A bunch of wannabes wanting to get power and money through politics.
It ends now.
@Nathan Blue: Have you been listening, they are setting up for a shot at the Prez for an issue in Turkey.
@Nathan Blue:
Outraged at the inevitable acquittal?
Hardly as I conceded that some time ago, actually saying from the beginning.
This ends now?
Hardly my friend, it’s just the beginning. And it’s a bit of stretch to pretend Team Trump comes out ahead. But then, you guys do stretch, putting it rediculusly mildly.
@Ronald J. Ward: rediculusly? I cant find the definition, you would never misspell a word after riding Nathan oh no not you.
@Ronald J. Ward:
The whole impeachment premise is a stretch, little dog, but you’d have to be objective and rational to see that.
You’re an idiot thinking this is about any “Team”. You don’t really want the next Dem President to be paralyzed by impeachment proceedings which, due to the our short-sited House Democrats, WILL happen since the new standard is that you can impeach for nebulous non-crimes now.
Acquitting Trump is doing you and your party a big, BIG favor.
You’re welcome.
You’re just whining that the Senate will acquit just because they are majority Republican…all while standing an impeachment that only went through because the House is majority Democrat. You don’t seem to register you’re own hypocrisy. It was a loaded, partisan political move being blocked by partisan defense. That’s how checks and balances work, junior.
The Dems have, since the ACA, not understood that in the history of our country, doing things without bipartisan support always comes at a big price. Clinton was GUILTY of a crime. He was not removed from office. I agree with that. I was a big Clinton fan and wanted Gore for President, voted as such.
Trump has no crimes even charged against him, and the basic tenets of our legal system have not been offered. You’re a fool if you don’t understand this destroys our way of life: the rule of Law. Abuse of power is too subjective.
Just to be clear:
Do I think getting dirt on Biden was nice bonus for investigating Burisma? Absolutely. Does Joe get immunity because he’s running for President? Nope. Is Trump guilty of using the office of the President to investigate a rival, like Obama did to Trump? Nope.
The Dems keep reaping what they sow, and then try to blame it on the ones exposing them. It’s hilarious.
This is all a shit-show made to obscure Dem corruption, and you know it.
And by the way, you WANT this to be over unless you want civil war. Self-actualized adults vs beta soy boys? Good luck.
This impeachment is a blight on the entire history of this nation, completely and utterly unsupported by facts. Yet so many Democrats, like those fools among us here, cheer it on. That tells you all you need to know about them and how they feel about this country.
@Nathan Blue:
I actually agree. “Coup” would be more appropriate.
And now you know what I know and can dictate what I want? No, I’m not glazed over in the indoctrination and cognitive dissonance as you are.
And also, this is far from over as I’ve earlier said. Investigations will continue, wittiness, emails and documents will continue to come out. This is simply a battle.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Yes. The Democrats just attempted a soft coup, and failed. Good boy.
Uh, yeah…yeah you are indoctrinated. I am not. You’re supporting a virulent faction of corrupt Leftists and not once have you offered an original thought, everything being indoctrinated dribble that you got from either handlers or just your over-consumption of Leftist propaganda.
Right. Now the investigations, witnesses, emails and docs concerning ongoing Dem corruption in the Ukraine will be hit that much harder. The impeachment was to obscure all of this.
You morons asked for it. Just remember that when real and legal criminal charges are issued to your Leftist gods.
@Nathan Blue:
Bounces off you and sticks on me. Got it. I recall thinking that was a decent rebuttal, in the 3rd grade.
No, I’m not glazed over in the indoctrination and cognitive dissonance as you are.
Okay, you want to go with “am not”.
Aren’t you late for school?
You keep insisting this is such a win for Rs but never provide any rationale, as if your opinion has any credence on any level., simply believing what you want to believe because you want to believe it. I too once believed in Santa Clause.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Um… that’s what YOU tried. Scooter.
Good lord… John Bolton has stated that both Mick Mulvaney and Pat Cipollone were present in the Oval Office during the May meeting when Trump instructed Bolton to assist Giuliani’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into opening a Biden investigation.
Let that sink in for a moment: Trump’s defending attorney is alleged to have been personally aware of the thing that he has been claiming did not happen.
A quick Senate acquittal without hearing sworn testimony from directly involved witnesses is going to be about as effective as hiding a heap of dead fish under the living room rug. Even if people can be convinced to ignore the bump, their noses will soon tell them something is seriously wrong.
@Greg: The Times says, thats all this is nothing but the standard Dem MO of since we are losing lie our asses off. The judge had a rape gang at every weekend party, sad very sad.
Testimony under oath from the parties directly involved would very quickly sort out the truth from the lies.
Blocking such testimony will also carry a strong message, as hard to miss as a heap of three-days-dead fish. The stink won’t go away before November.
Republicans should consider their choice very carefully.
@Greg: Do we need it?
@Greg: You know, if you had wanted Bolton to testify, you probably should have gotten him to testify in the House. Seems it wasn’t important until your weak, baseless, fact-free case fell apart in the Senate.
House democrats were smart enough to avoid putting the investigation on indefinite hold by allowing Trump’s attorneys to engage in endless appeals and procedural maneuvers. National security and the integrity of American democracy and its election process are more important than any of Trump’s countless personal or corporate lawsuits. I’m inclined to think that most Americans agree. Most Americans actually believe that truth matters.
@Deplorable Me: They got the aid, it seems looking into the democrats election tampering and corruption is impeachable.
Tell them what was being investigated and its called a debunked theory, when no investigation has debunked it.
Ask a question about a staffers contact with the WB its called a smear.
Even the report thart holding the aid was illegal did not follow procedure to be reported with in 45 days but only reported when it could be politically damaging,from an office that was ignored 6 times during the previous admin.
@Greg:
Democrats didn’t think very hard before the bogus articles, so now they will reap their toxic harvest in November. Don’t you dare try to turn that around on the Reps.
This monster is of Dem design, and Dem design only.
@Ronald J. Ward:
And that’s a wrap, little dog. Gotcha. Your level of projection is truly precious, at this point.
Go get therapy.
We’re in an informational civil war, with you and yours spouting lies with the hope it will stick.
As for me, I’m just watching actual events and applying the truth.
Not so much a “win” for the Rs (you keep thinking this is a sports game, as your indoctrination requires), but a win for the country.
As you already admitted, this dies in the Senate.
And school? Says the plan B loser between periods of teaching 3rd graders to hate what he hates…because he’s a teacher.
Yap yap, little dog.
@Nathan Blue: Love Gregs analogy, what is worse than dead fish, find out that the FISA warrants were invalid, created out of drunken Russian wholecloth in order to spy on a rival candidate.
Having the Democrats still refer to a Russian conspiracy theory when trying to forward their coup.
@Nathan Blue, #68:
That Trump’s followers have had that thought firmly implanted in their heads doesn’t mean the rest of America believes the same. A national Quinnipiac poll of registered voters conducted a couple of days ago found that three-fourths of all respondents believe witnesses should be heard at the Senate impeachment trial.
From the summary accompanying the poll results: “Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans, 95 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents.”
Nearly one-half of republicans believe witnesses should be heard from.
Senate republicans will disregard such overwhelming support for witness testimony at their own peril. What’s happening is obvious to everyone but Trump’s supporters.
Worse still, summarily nailing a lid down on the impeachment trial isn’t going to keep what they should be asking about from coming out anyway, and that won’t be confined to rumor and leaked information.
@Greg: Ya ya ya the walls are closing in, bombshell, etc etc etc.
@Greg: Can you ever prove these “polls” have any legitimacy and aren’t just Left-corrupted pieced of propaganda, meant to induce group-think and intimidate the majority of Americans who DON’T think this way?
You can’t.
By the way, we don’t live by mob rule. We are a nation of laws, and the law has been served properly today by essentially acquitting the President of a cheap, cowardly abuse made by the Dem party, a party with no candidate and no platform to beat Trump…having to resort to lies and legal shams.
Game Over, bub. You can cite “public opinion” all you want. That doesn’t make it true.
Why are you and your party afraid of the ballot box?
@Greg:
But wait; didn’t Schiff and the rest of the House managers say it was an air tight case they made? If so, why do they need MORE witnesses? Did Shifty Schiff and Jabba the Hut realize their argument doesn’t hold water?
OK, so your side wants only Bolton. In return, we get Schiff, his staff members who worked with the whistleblower AND Hunter and Joe Biden and Alexandra Chulupa. Schiff keeps saying you can’t have a trial without witnesses. But the prosecution also does not get to limit the number of witnesses the defense gets to call.
Let the games begin.
@Greg:
Yet they aren’t smart enough to realize that the same court challenges to subpoenas for testimony for accusations without foundation in fact wouldn’t somehow vanish if called by the Senate?
No, your sole desperate hope is that Americans are as stupid as the Democrats that ever thought Trump would be removed solely on hearsay, innuendo, assumption, presumption and lies. You hope they are so stupid as to not see the insult to intelligence of Schiff, who orchestrated perhaps THE MOST unfair, biased, prejudiced, bigoted, partisan procedure ever conducted in Congress, demanding his version of “fairness” in the Senate to present a case that shows no crimes committed.
@Nathan Blue:
Even Fox News is consistent with these polls.
Thing is, the entire GOP are acting like a squirrel in the middle of the road to oncoming traffic, not knowing which way to turn.
Marco Rubio said:
obviously not basing his decision on innocence or guilt.
Alan Dershowitz said
As long as one believes his reelection is in the public interest, he is above the law.
Lamar Alexander will vote against witnesses because:
Lisa Murkowski will not vote for wittnesses because:
And now for the aftershock. All of these obstructed Trump and GOP witnesses and evidence are still being litigated. Trump’s taxes are still up to the courts. All of these witnesses, evidence, and emails being obstructed by the GOP Senate are still out there waiting to be heard-and they will be. More damning evidence is pouring in all the time.
The GOP is in panic mode on how the votes of vulnerable 2020 contenders Cory Gardner, Martha McSally, Lisa Murkowski, Thorm Tillis, and Joni Ernst and a few others will play out. With the vote being just enough, it’s reasonable to deduce why Susan Collins was given permission to vote yes by picking up retiring Lamar Alexander to vote no.
Even credible (not hack spinmasters like Breitbart or The Fedealist or Hannity) right wing news outlet are concerned about the fallout.
You’ve yet to but any merit to your claim.
@Ronald J. Ward: Not 1 iota of evidence has come in, the NYT known for timely but untrue stories, a hand written note by a dude wanting a plea deal.
I hope you are never convicted on such garbage.
@Nathan Blue:
I see that AJ/Ward is parroting CNN again. He definitely doesn’t deviate much from their article of today using all of its catch words.
@Ronald J. Ward:
You’re projecting, and I can see now that you were real issue is just that you’ve been polarized in addition to being indoctrinated. I don’t listen to any of those news outlets.
you said you simply want what your ideology tells you to want, and damn the consequences.
I’d say the GOP in general is rather calm right now. they’re also the far less compromised and corrupt of the two parties, as you can see that they don’t all line up together to try and steal and grab power like the Democrats.
But yeah, compare them to a squirrel. Nice one.
You’re just pissed because Trump is going to be acquitted.
What I’m really curious of, is how far would you go? You’ve let a corrupt political party steal your opinions in your mind. you’re willing to undo the rule of law and our constitutional system obviously.
How far are you really willing to go to fundamentally transform America?
Senate Republicans have just voted to break their affirmation oaths and betray the Constitution’s requirement for a fair and impartial impeachment trial on live television.
They have voted in favor of a “trial” where eye-witnesses who know exactly what happened have been blocked from testifying and all pertinent Executive Branch documents have been locked down by the same President who is accused of the abuse of power and obstruction.
They just sold out the American people—those who are smart enough to realize it, as well as those who aren’t.
@retire05:
I don’t go to CNN much, mainly because of the annoying ads and constant vids popping up. But it seems this is pretty much the story of the day.
The Republican Cover-up Will Backfire. The House Can Keep Investigating Trump.
In Kyiv, Pompeo does not dispute allegations in Bolton’s book
Republicans Now Say Trump Did What He Was Accused Of — They Just Don’t Care
At-risk Republicans push for swift end to Senate trial.
Marco Rubio’s statement.
Republicans Are Prepared to Go Down With Trump
Trump’s former chief of staff says Senate impeachment trial without witnesses is ‘a job only half done’
Trump impeachment trial live updates: GOP rallies to stop witnesses amid new Bolton bombshell
Murkowski to vote against calling witnesses in impeachment trial
Alexander vs Trump
Bolton says Trump told him to set up Giuliani meeting in Ukraine: report
Lamar Alexander’s yes-he-did-it statement on Trump, annotated
The center of the orbit’: Endangered Republicans go all-in on Trump
Supreme Court to Hear Trump’s Tax Release March 30
Fox News 80% Want Witnesses.
What Democrats must do when impeachment is over
@Greg:
Really? that is in the constitution that it is televised? WOW! Men truly ahead of there time.
@Nathan Blue:
You say. Not meaning to be condescending but so what?
@Nathan Blue:
Oh, no. AJ is a willing participant. He JOINED. He is all for lying in order to try to make a point, mischaracterizing remarks, taking statements out of context and suppressing truth so that his view doesn’t appear so corrupt. Don’t you get the impression AJ could have been one of the best Democrat impeachment managers? He NEVER lets truth get in the way of a good hate.
@Greg:
The concept of “fair” was discarded by the Democrats as soon as they won the House. Pelosi withheld votes on important legislation that could help her members and threatened them with NO help in elections unless they voted for this politically induced impeachment. Schiff buried fair in a cesspool and conducted THE most unfair, biased, bigoted, partisan sham of a hearing, barring Republicans any and all opportunities for equal representation, then he whines and cries about demanding “FAIRNESS”. He is something that is unimaginable could actually get elected.
This impeachment farce got far more credibility in the Senate than it deserved. Now, the Republicans need to win back the House and hold all these participants accountable before ethics committees; THEY have abused their power and trampled the Constitution.
Take note that Ukraine never knew the aid was held up, Ukraine never announced any investigations and Trump released the aid… and has provided MORE aid than the Obama administration ever did. So, NOTHING the Democrats accused him of EVER HAPPENED, much less him being guilty of it.
Republican Senators are presently in disarray, trying to figure out among themselves how to wrap up the steaming heap of manure they just approved of so that it will somehow look to voters like a birthday present.
Somehow they have to spin the undeniable fact that they’ve just blocked testimony from willing people that anyone in their right mind realizes are material witnesses, and that they did it because the man who is on trial ordered them to.
@Ronald J. Ward:
You’re finally getting it. I’m so proud of you, bub.
As to your list, yes, I’m aware of the waves of Dem-owned or indoctrinated “news” sources that use mass repetition of what they want people to think as a way of control.
I love all the “at-risk” and “endangered” talk. That’s rather fascist, by the way.
If you could just get everyone to think the Rep party is dead, the Dems take over…permanently…which is what they thought in 2016. That’s not were the electorate is.
This farce of Left/Dem ideological supremacy/majority is petering out…with the media and losing dems fighting tooth and nail to maintain the hypnosis.
It’s already failed.
And by the way, we’re not getting public witnesses because that’s what the Senate is deciding. Agreed, if their constituents didn’t want that, then those Senators must pay the price.
But that also goes for the Dems in the House. I trust the people to decide via election. I don’t trust polls or disinformation campaigns like the ones that grip you.
Funny when you lose an argument, you huck up a “biblical” list of Leftist news propaganda. Ever one of those headlines is a gross distortion of the truth, and shows the utter desperation of a party who actually thought they’d “won for life” after Obama.
Sorry, dog. Your party lost, and it’s values need to be rebuilt. Go do that instead of get embarrassed here at FA. You’re not winning anyone over.
@Greg:
No additional witnessed were called in any Senate trial at any impeachment.
The scheme brought by the House to commit a soft coup failed. You know it. Don’t pretend.
You know goddamn well this was all sneaky and cowardly way of winning an election that your party has already lost. Shame on you.
Let’s talk about the damage the Dems did to themselves, eh? How are they going to sell that to the American People?
Meanwhile, who’s going be the candidate for the Dems again? Have the DNC decided that yet, against the will of their actual registered party members?
The Senate Republicans did the right thing. This was a miscarriage of justice from the start.
I’m ok if you’re too stupid to understand that. It’s done now, and better minds and hearts have prevailed.
Thank God.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Out of all your links, only TWO could be considered fair journalism. The rest? ALL left wing. Not that anyone would think you did that on purpose, right?
@Nathan Blue, #87:
Because in all earlier impeachments they had already responded to House subpoenas as the law requires, and their sworn testimony was already part of the record that was under consideration in the Senate.
Trumpistas always manage to leave that inconvenient fact out when they make the argument.
This is the first time in American history that an impeached president has taken control of a Senate impeachment trial to assure a predetermined acquittal before the trial even started, and it was the GOP that allowed it to happen.
They’ve allowed a precedent to be set: a president may now use his power of office not only to coerce foreign governments into providing politically useful favors, but also to suppress investigations of the same.
Trump is now immune from prosecution under federal statutory law, and unanswerable for his actions to Congress.
@Greg: They simply refused to let Schiff control the upper house, the way he controlled the lower house.He tried to upend the entire process first the senate was to do his dirty work the tried to get the judge to do it, both were rejected. Where was Nadler today? In Schiffs office drugged and tortured with tools?
Bring the President to heel, doesnt sound very co-equal.
Yes they did their job not demand the senate do it for them.
The constitution limits the government Due process, and a Fair trial are for the accused not the prosecutor.
You cant change the constitution without an amendment and impeach and try in the Senate.
Sorry all you have is hearsay and that isnt proof.
@Greg:
And THAT’S because they did their job and didn’t rush through hearings just to provide a phony “Christmas gift” to their crybaby constituents.
Does that mean you whiny-ass spoiled brats will stop fabricating crimes against Trump?
@retire05:
I understand you’ve been instructed on what to believe but per my earlier argument, even the right wing outlets agree.
@Nathan Blue: Okay, you too are confined within the instructed parameters of what to believe. So be it. And of course, as I’ve repeatedly proven, evidence only matters to you when it compliments your agenda.
But you’ve still fallen short on any actual support of that agenda, relying only on your say so, which is meaningless.
@Ronald J. Ward:
I have been instructed on nothing, having walked on both sides of the aisle in my lifetime. I also understand that, in your limited mental capacity, you think anyone who does not agree with your political philosophy must just be flat out stupid. There in lies the major mistake you leftists are making. You grossly underestimate the intellect of everyday Americans. I hope your side continues with that opinion.
Now, perhaps you would like to name the “right wing” outlets you are referring to?
@retire05:
That’s entirely untrue. You’ve rendered yourself flat out stupid regardless of your ideology.
I’m pretty sure I was referring to your @retire05: comment where you said: (#88)
You pointed it out, not me. But, I do have to remember I’m dealing with “flat out stupid” so I digress.
As for credible news sources, I get it that you reject those Trump has told you to, those with credible investigative skills to expose him for the fraud he is. And being the proper Trump cultist, I suppose you should. Another interesting point is that the majority of those “leftist” news sources are simply quoting verbatim the admissions of GOP senators, that they’ve conceded Trump’s guilt but as I’ve pointed out so many times, it just doesn’t matter.
Other than your instructed information rejection, to disregard what you see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears, what other explanation could there be.
Let me see if I can help. Below is a link from what I even admit to be a far left wing outlet. It’s simply a left wing opinion although it does reference some facts and some links to support it’s left wing argument. To me it’s akin to Brietbart, The Federalist, or even National Review- take info and spin it the best you can.
But it and many such sites do indicate that there is a national argument that perhaps Rs have stumped their toe on impeachment or at least, it could spell trouble for the GOP senate.
Credible GOP investigative news outlets tend to agree. Far right wing hack outlets disagree while giving no credible links or arguments to their claim which is to anyone with any amount of political knowledge and just an iota of reasonable intellect, flat out stupid.
Republicans have hell to pay for torching our republic. Make. Them. Pay. NOW
@Ronald J. Ward:
I skimmed over your (always insulting) retort. Once again, and as usual, you claim superior intellect. As I said before, I hope you on the left continue to express that attitude toward those who do not subscribe to your view point.
All you have proven is that you, not me, are swayed by the opinions of others with all your links of left wing talking head elites. So much for your independent thinking.
Apparently being a person “of color” contributes to your hatred.
@retire05:
Okay, you’re butthurt from being referred to as flat out stupid? I suppose that was a bit harsh.
Back to the point, I still say that this summation of a “win” for Rs is foolhardy. You and Nathan don’t want to go by the polls? Don’t want to rely on the media? All’s fine. Want to still make that claim without a lick of evidence? Sure, so Trump like.
But just as another barometer, notice how Tweeter hasn’t exactly lighten in with right wing elation. Go to your Facebook friends and you hear crickets. Even here at home, my county Republican FB pages don’t hardly mention it. The KY state R FB page is equally quiet, as is the IN GOP FB, as are many. On the other hand, Democratic social media is is blaring away.
Why? Maybe because EVERYONE really knows that what the GOP Senate has done is to have shoved this huge pile of dead fish under a rug and are sitting back fretting of the incredible inevitable stench that’s coming their way, all of which is pointing straight at them.
You really don’t have to be all smart to get that.
@Ronald J. Ward:
“Tweeter?”
Don’t flatter yourself thinking I give a tinker’s damn what you think of my intellect.
News flash; nation wide, Democrats are “anxious” while Republicans are pumped. But hey, keep telling yourself differently.
@retire05: Is this a threat?
Rep. Gabbard on her new $50M lawsuit against Hillary Clinton:
“It should have been for $50B. What is your life worth to you? What is your honor and loyalty, your identity, worth to you?” https://t.co/6jmfdwgnwp pic.twitter.com/UboUB7VBLy
Progressives are jealous creatures the all turn on each other.
Gabbard’s attorney, Brian Dunne told The New York Post, “I find it rather unbelievable that Hillary Clinton is so intimidated by Tulsi Gabbard that she won’t accept service of process. But I guess here we are.”
@Ronald J. Ward: Here’s the bottom line, Scooter. Your Democrats got the big-head because they had the majority in the House which allowed them to work under unfair, biased, partisan rules and they passed articles of impeachment without crimes or evidence of crimes. Then they got their lying, cheating, anti-American asses handed to them in the Senate. A great big embarrassing defeat, which they absolutely deserved.
That’s going to leave a mark.
@retire05:
You keep saying that and keep saying that and I suppose construe to be true because you hear yourself keep saying that. Seems like I kinda challenged Nathan above because he kept making this claim on his say so.
What I’m trying to relay to you is that most Americans are not saying this. As for Tweeter and Facebook, I’m actually referring to many of my conservative friends, my bat crazy Republican uncle, that loyal Union worker acquaintance that thinks the J. in Donald J. Trump stands for Jesus. They ain’t saying what you’re claiming.
So quick recap, mkay? Many GOP Senators have expressed concern about the upcoming senatorial elections as have several prominent GOP news outlets. Most state and county GOP social media sites are pretty much mum. Lot’s of GOP senators running for cover other than from Fox friendly soft ball interviews. Many GOP senators have switched positions on why they voted for no witnesses while some have come right out and admitted Trump’s guilt yet don’t care.
Want to start talking about donations reported coming in? Would you believe them?
Meanwhile, the energy from the Dems seems to be at an all time high, in every aspect.
Yet, you and Nathan keep insisting Dems have tucked tail and are running for cover, based solely on your “say so”.
Is this seriously the best you have?