Former Vice President Dick Cheney (R) on Monday denounced real estate mogul Donald Trump’s plan to restrict all Muslims from immigrating to the U.S., pointing out that the U.S. has always welcomed people of all religions.
“I think this whole notion that somehow we can just say no more Muslims, just ban a whole religion, goes against everything we stand for and believe in,” he told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. “I mean, religious freedom has been a very important part of our history and where we came from. A lot of people, my ancestors got here, because they were Puritans.”
“until we figure out what we are doing”
Trump may be too blunt and direct, but he is correct. When a process we have in place fails and people die, the thing to do is stop what we are doing and evaluate the process.
Man he was jumped by just about everyone, he wants a temporary halt til they figure out what they can do better. Horrible as that is if I am pounding in a nail and hit my thumb I stop and move my thumb out of the way. The ones running this system are pounding their thumbs bloody.
Rapes occurring in and around migrant camps are now so prevalent, that authorities in Germany are covering up details of incidents so as not to “legitimize” critics of mass immigration.
Does the US stand for importing a rape and murder culture perhaps we should ask Michelle and her daughters.
Donald Trump staked out a position that got the national conversation going at an accelerated pace.
One of the proofs of how well he chose his position is what Congress did today:
The House overwhelmingly passed legislation Tuesday to limit certain travel privileges granted to citizens of 38 friendly foreign countries.
The vote was 407-19.
Travelers would also have to have passports, like those issued in the U.S., that contain biometric and other data to make them fraud-resistant.
See how it works?
You stake out an extreme position then get 75% of what you claimed you wanted…..which is actually everything you hoped for.
(Oh! And plenty of free publicity!)
@Nanny G: 8 hours of coverage on CNN what a free publicity bonus he does not have to buy ads the liberal MSM just laps it up like hungry puppies, this one is it, he has blown up! lol
It really is odd to see so many politicians unaware of US Code.
“8 U.S. Code § 1182
So, should Trump get elected, he is making it clear that he would apply this federal law as he sees fit.
All others, (except maybe Rand Paul) seem unaware this law even exists.
This amount of news publicity and attention for Trump is bad for Republicans.
1. He really is a terrible candidate- a liberal wolf in sheepdog’s clothing and snake oil salesman.
2. The timing of his coverage could not have come at a more opportune time for President Obama, as it draws most of the media spotlight and hot seat off of the president’s terrible speech and puts it on Trump.
@wordsmith: IMO Trump is the George Wallace of 2015—Wallace at one time had nearly 50% of the white male vote—he won a number of states but could never get close to a majority of the electorate.
I didn’t like Trump when he was a Dem.—he’s basically the same guy now–snake oil salesman is exactly right.
worth watching if you like or don’t like the Donald
Jimmy Carter, arguably the 2nd worst president now that we have Obama, did EXACTLY what Trump is advising us to do on a temporary basis.
stated:
Thus Jimmy Carter banned all Iranians from entering the U.S. “unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.”
Now what has happened since Trump’s statement?
A 407 to 19 vote tally for a proposal to cut off most waivers for visitors hoping to come to the United States without a visa. And that applies to our closest allies, too, if they have visited terror infested nations. (Politico)
Who here is familiar with the theory of the Overton Window?
The “window” refers to the range of acceptable political discourse on any given topic.
Donald Trump has smashed the Overton Window.
He is a master negotiator.
Maybe he only wanted 75% of what he demanded.
By demanding the 100% point, he freaks out his negotiating opponent. Then he opponent settles for giving him more than he could ever have gotten by being a gentleman.
See the media freak out?
See Dems and Reps freak out?
Then look at that vote.
He won.
@Nanny G: You claim Trump a “master negotiator.” With 3 wives he better be–Heard he negotiated his barber to pay Trump for that haircut. He’s very upset Time mag didn’t name him “Person Of The Year.” and instead, after prolonged negotiations, named him “clown of the decade.”
@Nanny G:
Sounds as if 407 out of 426 agree with Donald that we should stop importing these people until we know what we’re doing. That’s about 96% of the House, so with 96% of the Senate, we will likely have a ‘veto proof’ law passed to support Trump’s position.
@wordsmith: I think about 95% of the citizens in the US think we have to do something about allowing Islamists into the country without vetting. That’s Trumps position. Obama is okay with anyone from anywhere coming in regardless of their intentions toward murdering Americans. Which position do you support?
When you realize that a confirmed radicalized Jihadist applied for and received a fiance’ visa without a second glance, you have to wonder how many more have already done the same thing. Trump thinks we should stop this. Obama supports doing more of the same. Which position do you support?
It’s strange to me that everyone that ‘is opposed’ to what Trump’s position is attempting to use the Constitution as a basis. I may be a little slow, but I believe that the US Constitution is for American citizens and for the security of Americans. I do not believe anyone can find the ‘right for a jihadist to lie on a visa application’ in the US Constitution.
Rich Wheeler:
I think that may qualify as a lie.
@Rich Wheeler:
Rich would you interpret that into English?
@Redteam: Ya think lol I used to think you one of the few on here with a sense of humor.
BTW Do you think Trump is a Dem. plant?
@Redteam: No I just saw Michelle Malkin and Pam Geller back to back on Lou Dobbs–I need a drink.
@Rich Wheeler: I see you declined to answer whether you support Obama’s position or Trumps that I presented in 13. Are you afraid of the truth? I don’t believe that you have the cajones to answer the questions truthfully.
@Rich Wheeler:
The truth drives you to drinking. Then ‘Have a drink’.
@Redteam: Didn’t you used to have a sense of humor or am I confusing you with someone else?
Do you really take Trump seriously–Don’t you think he could be a big put-on–Do you remember when he was a Dem–he hasn’t changed much–we didn’t take him seriously then–why now?
@Redteam: From 13
Seems as if you are reluctant to answer a serious question. Why is that? you can’t stand to tell the truth?
@Rich Wheeler:
Isn’t “confusion’ your normal state?
@Redteam: The truth is Donald is a huge phony playing on people’s fear and insecurities-He brings out the worst in those he influences..I’ve got less use for him than you have for Obama–hope that answers your questions honestly.
As you know I’ve always thought Word one of the 3 most astute Conservatives here at FA–look forward to his response.
@Rich Wheeler:
Tell me which presidential candidate, for either party, that you don’t think is a ‘huge phony’. I’m sure you are signed up to vote for that one person, if you can think of one.
Name one subject that you think Word and I disagree on. And why do you seemingly admire Word for his ‘conservative’ positions when you so clearly abhor conservative positions? For the record, I can’t think of a conservative, for either party, that is currently seeking the presidential job. Can you?
@Rich Wheeler: It was kind of phony for Obama to say insurance would be cheaper, we could KEEP our insurance and terrorism was whipped, wasn’t it? It would appear you don’t mind phonies that much… why all of a sudden?
@Redteam: You and Word night-and day-For starters spend a few minutes in the archives reviewing your back and forth on his The Myth That Pres BHO a Closet Muslim. or.
#7 above re Trump He really is a terrible candidate, a liberal wolf in sheepdog’s clothing and snake oil salesman. You agree with that?
I think Dr. Carson a Conservative.
Bill Trump takes phony to a new level
Perhaps this is taking things a bit too far. Then again…
@Rich Wheeler:
No I don’t. But then that is the rino position, it is not the conservative position. I hold the conservative position which is: We have got to get the liberals out of running America into the ground. The people that oppose Trump basically want to retain status quo as far as the political bent of Washington politicians. They would be happy with a John McCain or Bob Dole. Same old same old.
Who is Bill Trump?
Maybe, but no management experience at all. (well, maybe slightly more than Obama had)
I guess you are really excited about the latest polls showing Trump is still increasing his lead. Maybe people like his ban Muslims position.
@Greg: reminds me of the GIF of Shrillary running from the plane dodging snipers with her head down. Wouldn’t you say?
@Redteam: I am excited –This is real fun Repubs don’t know what the hell to do with him—Dem’s and libs are loving it
I’ve switched from primarily watching CNN to primarily watching Fox–much more entertaining–The establishment Repubs like Tom Ridge come on and swear they won’t support Trump–all the other candidates bad mouth him–the crazies love him–it’s great theater.
Greg love it Which one’s the madman?
@Rich Wheeler:
And as usual, you’re wrong. The Dims and Libs are panicing, not loving it. They don’t know what the hell to do about him even more so than the Repubs. They know he will blow the Dims out of the water in the General election, IF he’s the candidate.
@Redteam: The Dems and Libs enjoy the Repub. dilemma—-a brokered Convention where no one candidate has over 50% of delegates. They’ll dump Donald who’ll cry foul and threaten 3rd Party run.
@Greg:#26 No, not necessarily. Humor is humor until the left begins to accept it as fact, as they often do.
I dgaf anyone but another destructive democrat in the white house, Rinos have done more for the agenda than the dem majority congress ever did. Better than his muslim stand is his YOUR FIRED stand. It is terribly amusing watching the rinos squirm isn’t it.
@Rich Wheeler:
Funny how you think Trump having 3 wives is a negative but Webb having a harem was great. Kind of a ‘double standards’ guy.
@Rich Wheeler:
You may as well stop your erotic fantasy’s. That ain’t gonna happen. The repubs will do just as the Dims do, and have primaries and then let the person receiving the most delegates be the nominee. Anything else would be a certain disaster. It would be similar to what would happen if the Dims try to stop Shrillary from getting the nom.
You actually think someone like Graham, polling at near 0 in his home state vs 35% for Trump would be a winner for the Repubs?
As things stand, I would predict, unless there is a game changer, that Trump would get about 65% in a national election. The Dim would finish worse than Hubert did back when he ran. I think the country is about ready to have an American in the White house again.
@Redteam: As usual you are clueless-I used to think you were being humorous. Read Nam’s explanation of Repub. primary process –then report back–hint “most delegates” not a closer.
Trump can’t even get 35% of Repib. vote–Nationally he’d be lucky to get 40%.
Hubert? You mean Humphrey who got 49% vs Nixon in 1968? Maybe you meant George McGovern in 72.
Webb also 3 wives and not running–Your double standard. Waiting for you to stand up and proclaim yourself a proud Trumpist–embarrassed to admit it.?
@Rich Wheeler:
And what post number would that be? Or is it, perhaps, in another thread that you failed to link to?
Webb not running NOW. But when he was running, and you were constantly pimping for him here at FA, the fact that Webb has also had 3 wives didn’t seem to bother you. Again, you show your double standards and then accuse Redteam of having double standards. You’re a fraud.
As to that brokered GOP convention that all you leftists are just salivating over; why? Because your party has nothing better to offer than an ancient old Socialist and a woman who would sell her soul to the devil for a dollar and who is a habitual liar? Who is the party of old white people now, Rich? Sure ain’t the GOP.
The convention is months out, an eternity in political time. A lot could happen. Bernie could die of old age; Hillary (if there is any justice left in this world) could be indicted. O’Malley doesn’t have a chance against Kermit the Frog. IOW, you got zip in the next presidential election and you know it.
You on the left have been predicting the demise of Trump for months. Still haven’t happened, has it? Now you are predicting that Trump can’t take the nomination.
. Considering your track record, Donald Trump should sleep easy tonight.
Now, you’ll come back and accuse me of being a Trumpist. Another falsity that you seem to love to throw out. I haven’t chosen a candidate yet to support and when I do, you’ll be the last one I tell. But it seems to me that as fixated at you are on Donald Trump, he’s the one you fear to replace President SFB.
@retire05:NAN explained in—- “Trump Nom Would Fundamentally Change the GOP” #1–well done.
The Repub race is pretty much as I predicted 2-3 months ago Trump jumps out in divided vote-but has trouble breaking above 30% and holding. Cruz and Rubio move up. Carson holds in double digits.
Iowa today– Cruz 31–Trump 21.–Don’t see any path to Trump nom. As Nan points out-Repub-establishment won’t allow it. Trump unpopular with over 60% of the electorate–death knoll #’s in G.E.
btw I never said having 3 wives was a negative–though RT suggested it was when referencing “Webb’s harem”–I only said DT with 3 must be good negotiator.
The RNC and DNC hate for Trump is what drives up his numbers. Donalds team trolls social media then He tosses it the red meat it wants the Media goes wild, it appears he is the only one that seems to address an important issue. His poll numbers go up. The reasoning is he will put the right person in charge to get it done if they dont he will fire them. When another candidate starts to rise he finds more red meat and the cycle starts again, how amusing to watch. The RNC Elite would rather lose the White House than to back an outsider or constitutional conservative.
@Rich Wheeler:
Actually, I have to wonder if Nan has ever been a delegate to the GOP national convention. The way she described it is completely off base. The road to the national conventions all starts at the local precinct level, goes to the state convention where delegates are elected, not appointed due to their state GOP status.
Is a brokered convention possible? Yes. But it is not as easy as you might think. I suggest you research when the last brokered conventions were and by what party.
What ever candidate is chosen at the national convention, Republicans will back that candidate. You need to worry about the sorry state your tribe is in with two candidates that are going to prove unpalatable to the general public.
@Rich Wheeler:
Tell you what. When you post a comment proclaiming yourself a Liarist, (a Shrillary supporter), I’ll copy and paste it and add my endorsement of Trump at that time. I know you want to go ahead and endorse the Liar in chief, but are just a little embarrassed by it.
@Rich Wheeler:
3? Arithmetic is not your strong suit. It was 3 after you started counting.
@Rich Wheeler:
That explanation you are praying to be correct is not correct. If it is, then there would and could be only one person nominated because only one can get over 50% of the vote. I will admit it might could happen in the Dim Convention that way because they have no standards and each candidate is counted as an individual and it doesn’t matter who gets the most votes, they change them to who they want as they did in 04 when Shrillary won in Texas but Obozo got the votes. So get your head out of the clouds and come back down to earth where Hillary is still know as Liar. Almost forgot, today was Saturday. You get in a lot of parade time with your rainbow flag group?
@Redteam: #”s 41 42 and 43 gibberish– Is that the best you can do RT?
As you know I do not support HRC and never have. Your love affair with all things Trump is well documented Iowa Cruz 31—Trump 21
National today T-27 C-21 R-15 Trump has no path to 50%–made too many enemies within Repub Party.
@Rich Wheeler:
So if the two names on the ballot are Liar and Trump, you will vote Trump?
@Redteam: Be assured I will never vote for Trump. Being Cruz and Rubio are not eligible–by your standards–leaves you with Trump to support.
@Rich Wheeler:
Ah, so you admit you will vote for the liar in chief. Took you a long time to admit you are a Shrillary supporter.
I didn’t set the standards for the office of president. The US Constitution did. according to it, they are not eligible.
Seems as if I won’t be voting for Trump either because according to the Dims, if Trump is the candidate, there is no way the Repubs can win and according to the Repubs if Trump is the candidate there is no way they can win, so I’ll just be staying home and take no part in voting to destroy the country.
I am now going on the record that IF Trump is the candidate, whether independent or Republican, he will get 55% of the vote nationwide and win the presidency with a 100 vote majority in electoral votes. However I am not predicting that he WILL be a candidate. Nor am I predicting that he WILL NOT be a candidate.
Though I don’t much care for Judge Judy, here is what she said about why people like Donald Trump:
Judge Sheindlin boiled down the billionaire’s appeal to the public’s dislike of political correctness:
“Wouldn’t you like to hear what the candidates who are running for president have to say legitimately about how they feel about issues?
Rather than being politically correct and hearing the same old hogwash that we’ve heard for the last 30 years?”
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/12/492486-judge-judy-gets-asked-about-trump-and-boy-oh-boy-does-she-have-an-opinion/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=morning-newsletter
@Redteam: As usual you’re making stuff up–I may vote Libertarian-
Trump, like Palin before him, is getting his 15 minutes+
Actually it’s the Repubs that are blasting The Donald–will be interested in watching Cruz take him on. As I’ve said, this will come down to the two Cuban Americans for the nom—You can stay home
RE J.J. Trump IS saying what he believes–That’s why he has the highest negatives–very similar to Palin—He’s got a steady 25-30% of Repubs. less than that with indies and Dems.–can’t get elected with that.
@Rich Wheeler:
Exactly which part am I ‘making up’? Libertarian? Who is that candidate? Surely not Webb and his harem? Why do you say Cruz is a Cuban? he’s only 1/3 Cuban. Cuban citizen due to his father’s nationality, American because of his mother and Canadian because he was born there (according to your rules). That’s same percentage as Rubio, Cuban because of his mother, Cuban because of his father, American because he was born here. Both are 1/3 American, neither are ‘natural born’. Both are more American than Obama. His citizenship is still unknown.