Americans are lucky to have Trump as President

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Tim Newman (In Paris):

The ZMan makes the following remark in a recent post:

After the election, I made the point that Trump was a warning shot to the ruling class. They had to reform and Trump was that opening for them. If not, the next guy was not going to be as easy to deal with as Trump.

It’s been almost 10 months since Trump’s election and still the ruling classes and those who support them, on both sides of the Atlantic, haven’t yet worked out why.

Last week, the German magazines Der Spiegel and Stern ran these on their front covers:

If social media is anything to go by, a lot of people out there claim to believe Trump is a white supremacist Nazi. The logic goes something like this:

1. Some Nazis protested the removal of a statue in Charlottesville.

2. They were joined by the alt-right, some of whom are Nazis, some of whom are rather unpleasant right-wingers, some of whom are perfectly pleasant right-wingers and some of whom are just ordinary people who want to express their dislike of liberal politics.

3. People who hate Trump demanded he condemn the entire alt-right as Nazis, i.e. to tell a barefaced lie about one of his main political support bases. Trump declined, and condemned the idiots on both sides.

4. Trump is therefore a Nazi.

Apparently this New York property developer with a Jewish daughter, a TV celebrity who has been a household name since the eighties, is a Nazi. Who knew?

Of course, nobody believes Trump is a Nazi: if they did, they’d not be writing articles in papers using their own names calling him a Nazi, they’d be shitting themselves with fear. The Nazi label is simply the latest attempt to pin something on Trump which they hope will bring about enough pressure to get him to resign or be forced from office. We’ve had misogyny, taxes, and collusion with Russia and none of them worked, so they’ve gone with Trump’s a Nazi. Trump’s opponents are simply lurching from one baseless accusation to another in the hope the American public will at some point agree on one of them and turf him from office. They then assume everything will go back to how it was, with nice Republicans like Mitt Romney losing elections (while being called a Nazi) to an exotic Democrat who will focus on transgender bathrooms and global warming.

The way things are going, it wouldn’t surprise me if they succeed in preventing Trump seeing out his term. If this happens, many people will be absolutely ecstatic because they genuinely think this is all about Trump. It still staggers me the number of supposedly intelligent people who claim to follow politics and think that Trump is responsible for the social disintegration we’re seeing across America. Almost nobody from the chattering classes has bothered to identify and understand the political forces that plucked Trump from the primaries and propelled him to the White House, nor the rot that has set into the established political parties in the US which played an equally important role.

The chattering classes in Turkey had no problem ridiculing Recep Erdoğan during his slow rise to power either, confident they could contain him while dismissing his supporters as backward reactionaries that could be defeated by sophisticated discussions among themselves. At no point did the elites in Ankara and Istanbul listen to his supporters to figure out why they were voting for him, and look at ways to persuade these millions of people to come on board with their own policies. Perhaps they believed that beating him at the ballot box wasn’t necessary and they could just remove someone who didn’t do their bidding by other means? And look how that worked out.

Personally, I think Americans are incredibly lucky to have someone as benign as Trump being the one who stumbled on enough populist anger to get himself elected.

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Curt, what could it possibly take, at what low could Trump possibly go, in order for you to stop defending him and admit that he’s a profound racist?

I made a joke the othe day that he was considering pardoning the Charlottesville driver. Would that come close? I mean, if proclaiming we have good nazis and good Klansmen along with pardoning a convicted racist who prided himself for what he himself referred to as his own little concentration camps, is there anything that could persuade you to crawl out of Trump butt?

Yes, some very racist Americans do feel lucky to have Trump.

@Ajay42302: You ask a lot of questions, mostly hypothetical and stupid, and you whine and cry when no one bothers to answer such stupid questions (though IF they do, as I did, you still lie and say the answer was what you wanted it to be, not what was actually answered), yet when YOU are asked a question, you run and hide. Why are you such a sniveling, lying coward? Is that your job title in the Soros organization?

Trump was the defense against having Hillary, the most incompetent, most dishonest, most corrupt individual to have ever run for the office of President of the United States. I knew that if Hillary won, she would infect the Supreme Court with the most liberal, activist, revisionist “justices” imaginable. Trump won because Hillary was a despicably terrible person. She only got close because liberals don’t care about character, integrity or ability, they only care about liberalism and the pursuit of socialism and the corrupt liberal media gave her their full support. But the American people are getting wiser and more are seeing the left for what they are; basically, ANTIFA, a violent, fascist anti-American gang of thugs.

Trump could very well prove to be an extremely successful President; he has shown the capability. However, already he has fulfilled my wishes; blocked Soros from installing his puppets at the top of American government.

@Bill… Deplorable Me:

I only read to this point: “You ask a lot of questions” and it is only to that point that I’ll respond.

Yes, I did ask a lot of questions, none of which, were to you.

@Ajay42302: But I asked YOU a question that WAS directed at YOU and you scurried away like the roach you are. Tell me, does Hillary dropping the N-bomb prove she is a racist?

@Ajay42302: So, my silly little boy, we live in an age where bad people like to use good, normal people by sharing information that is either false or half-true, all in the effort to manipulate the good people to do their work for them.

You listen to a vast network of propaganda that has poisoned your mind.

I’d tell you that Trump is not a racist, but I know you’ve been so thoroughly indoctrinated, that any piece of rational thought will be distorted into something false, but falsehoods you would follow…commit violence over.

So you’re forgiven. I know you can change and become part of the good, free-thinking part of the nation once again.

But yes, in your current state you are dumb assh*ole looking to hurt people for some nebulous transgression received in your childhood perhaps, and you’ll do anything to defend that cognitive void against real, considerate thought.

Uh, anything else, little guy?

Ol” Meanie Trump boovering woo, again? Is he being Waaaaacist?

@Nathan Blue:

I’d tell you that Trump is not a racist, but I know you’ve been so thoroughly indoctrinated, that any piece of rational thought will be distorted into something false, but falsehoods you would follow…commit violence over.

You could, as I have done, asked little AJ to provide the first piece of evidence that Trump is a racist. You, too, could discover, first hand, what a cowardly little liar he is.

Excuse me but was’nt it that leftists rag Der Spiegel who made that fake news about the Hitler Diaries Its and Stern is as bad as Liberal rags like TIME and ROLLING STONE

The media in Germany is tightly controlled by their government, so I guess we know what Merkel and the socialists think.

German Editor Reveals US/CIA Control of German Media — Then Dies

If the previous President had the same response as DT on hurricane response, the media would be gushing.
President Obama, who, for reasons that perplexed many victims, opted to ride out the flooding in Louisiana disaster on Martha’s Vineyard instead of visiting the flood zone or even tossing on a jacket and making some televised statement of support.
Doesnt make him a hero, those are the guys that ran into the storm from Louisiana with boats to rescue Texans they had never met. The police, fire and rescue, national guard pulling people off roofs out of flooded cars ect.
We live in a great country with wonderful people who elected a pretty good President.

@kitt “pretty good Prez.” best you can do? and you voted for him. As many suggest the ONLY reason he won is because his opponent was HRC.–SAD.
Because of HRC and Comey’s 11th hour flip flop we got Trump.–hard to watch.

Semper Fi

@Rich Wheeler: The alternative was Hillary, so, yeah, we are DAMNED lucky to have Trump as President. Hillary proved herself incompetent when she was Secretary of State. She cared more about her own secrecy than the security of the United States, she raked in millions of dollars peddling influence and she proved she could not manage or prevent a crisis.

So, absolutely, VERY lucky.

Then, there was Bernie, who wanted to Make America Venezuela Again.

Very, VERY lucky.

Beyond that, he is showing determination and strength in foreign affairs, has already improved the economy, is reducing illegal immigration, is improving the security of immigration and has helped our veterans… all while fighting racist, anti-American fascists and slanderous rumors, which have no basis in fact.

@Rich Wheeler:
Comey and the now known Russian collusion may have played a row in popular vote loser Trump securing the electoral college vote but there are many variables-including a rather huge resentment towards Hillary. And as I’ve argued many times, she pretty much snubbed the working class while trump was conning them.

Prior to the Nov election, it was pretty much understood that we had 2 profoundly flawed candidates which any level of intellect would conclude we’d be left with a profoundly flawed President.

Most understood that Trump was everything from a sexual assaulting adulteress to a serial liar to a disgusting racist and on and on but ultimately, they just didn’t care because they were just tired of the norm, the establishment, that they didn’t feel represented. And I believe, there was a belief or perhaps a hope that Trump would eventually evolve if elected.

But as we’ve learned, his ego has only exploded, his dis-concern for workers has escalated, his mental competence has become even more questionable, his ability to actually govern is a worldwide disgrace (and his interests in changing that is non-existent), his lies and dishonesty sets records on a daily basis, and his allegiance to white supremacy and neo-nazis has skyrocketed.

I understand (not that I agree by any stretch but I do understand) those that were looking for that hope in Trump. But now that they have obviously been had, other than the KKK, Neo-Nazis, Brownshirts, ect, I don’t understand their sucking up to them.

Hell, If I were a republican or a conservative or a tea bagger or whatever in the hell they are today, I’d think I’d want him the hell out so Pence could actually get some of those things done that that ilk hold dear. And I think I would want it done before 2018 in case of a House flip and then both Trump and Pence ousted as the Dem Hpouse Speaker would then be in line.

Would you believe there have been thousands of retweets of a 2015 photo of Obama dishing out food to people one Thanksgiving as if it had just taken place in Texas!
Larry Elder had to debunk them.
Obama was not in Texas serving food.
All Obama has done is tweet this:

Barack Obama ✔
Thank you to all the first responders and people helping each other out. That’s what we do as Americans

@Ajay42302: the only reason* you (a liberal) can’t see all that President Trump has accomplished is that liberals control so much of the media you’d watch that you never learn about them.
But here are a few:

1.Seated Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch
2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.
3. He took us out of TPP.
4. Illegal immigration is now down 70% (the lowest in 17 years).
5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6.
6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.
7. Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.
8. Bids for border wall are well underway.
9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.
10. Keystone pipeline approved.

11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%.
12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.
13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.
14. More than 600,000 jobs created.
15. Median household income at a 7 year high.
16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever In its history.
17. China agreed to American import of beef.
18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.
19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining.
20. MOAB for ISIS.

21. Travel ban reinstated.
22. Executive order for religious freedom.
23. Jump started NASA.
24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget.
25. Targeting of MS13 gangs.
26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.
27. Signed 41 bills to date.
28. Created a commission on child trafficking.
29. Created a commission on voter fraud.
30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.

31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.
32. Unemployment lowest since may 2007.
33. Historic Black College University initiative.
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act.
35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims.
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank, the law that crushed small banks, restricted access to credit, and planted the seeds of financial instability.
37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning.
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.
39. End of DAPA program.
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.

41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.
42. Renewed the ‘Buy American, Hire Americans’ spirit.
43. Cutting regulations 2 for every one created.
44. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first.
45. Apprentice program.
46. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.
47. $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota…
48. Denied FBI a new building.
49. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.
50. Saves $22 million by reducing White House payroll.

51. Dept. of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history).
52. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.
53. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.
54. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth
55. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America.
56. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.
57. Has given head executives of each branch a 6 month time frame to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of they’re branch.
58. Trump refused his presidential paycheck and donated it to veterans issues.
59. Stood strong against North Korea’s threats until they backed away from bombing Guam.
60. Stood up to the haters and the FAKE RUSSIAN NEWS!!

61. Battles the never-ending NEGATIVITY from the media and Democrats trying to derail progress for a better America!
62. Black unemployment was stagnant before Trump was elected, since then it has plummeted!
63. Ended State Dept’s Special Envoy program.

*OK, there may be another reason: the way you obsess about teabagging, maybe you just can’t see past the genitals.

@Nanny G: I started from the bottom and stopped at #62–is that correct?

@Ajay42302:

Comey and the now known Russian collusion may have played a row in popular vote loser Trump securing the electoral college vote but there are many variables-including a rather huge resentment towards Hillary.

KNOWN collusion? Oh, please provide your evidence. The one thing we do know about the collusion is that there was NONE and it all was contrived by sore loser, crybaby liberals that don’t like real life.

Most racist, lying liberal fascists pretended to believe that Trump was everything from a sexual assaulting adulteress to a serial liar to a disgusting racist and on and on but ultimately, they just didn’t care because they were just tired of the norm, the establishment, that they didn’t feel represented. And I believe, there was a belief or perhaps a hope that Trump would eventually evolve if elected.

There, I fixed your comment. You left the most important part out.

But as we’ve learned, his ego has only exploded, his dis-concern for workers has escalated,

Yeah, that’s why jobs are coming back, jobs in the energy sector (including coal) are booming, unemployment is down, JOB PARTICIPATION is up and black unemployment is DOWN. Consumer confidence is up. Yeah, Trump is doing all this to feed his ego.

Can you tell me yet if Hillary dropping N-bombs makes her a racist? Hmmm?

@Rich Wheeler:

I started from the bottom and stopped at #62

That is what is known as willful ignorance. You are uninformed because you WANT to be uninformed, afraid of the information.

@Rich Wheeler: #9 YesI voted for him the alternative was listening to a Harpys hideous laugh for 4 years and the further destruction of our country…ewww. Better a man who feeds his ego by making the county better, than an empty pants suit that feeds her banking accounts. Voting 3rd party would not have helped my nation, and yup hes pretty good., with a wall, tax reform and Obamacare repeal he will be great. That is what the democrats fear the most, he not only proved the 97% chance of losing wrong, but the county better off with less government strangling.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: It’s what’s known as why waste time on B.S.–if #62 is wrong why read the rest?
Trump is a blatant fabricator and his over sized ego and belly make him hard to watch. You go right ahead spouting your memes—you got about 3 out of 10 that agree with you.

African American unemployment was at a nigh of 16.8% in March of 2010 and has been on a relatively steady decline since then Was 7.7% when Trump took office and is currently 7.1%—so DT taking credit is like a rooster thinking the sun came up because he crowed.

@Rich Wheeler:

It’s what’s known as why waste time on B.S.–if #62 is wrong why read the rest?

Except that #62 is not wrong, except for the “stagnant” part; black unemployment went steadily up under Obama and only improved as the labor participation eroded and part time jobs became counted the same as full time jobs. More importantly, labor participation, always dismal under Obama (and the source of his “good” unemployment figures) is also up.

More willful ignorance?

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/346647-opinion-the-real-record-on-black-america-under-trump-vs

Trump is a blatant fabricator and his over sized ego and belly make him hard to watch.

What makes him hard for hateful people to watch is that he is absolutely everything you leftists swear he is not… and NOTHING you liberals say he is. In other words, “waa, waa, waa.”

Face it, Rich… Trump is doing a really good job. Would be possibly great if your left wing spite would get out of the way. But, his success is what you hateful liberals fear most.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Did you not see my #18? Much greater drop in Black unemployment under BHO than under DT. Do you disagree?
With DT’s current poll #” s it’s a lot more than just Libs that dislike him. Do you disagree?
Re hate—it makes it’s home in the alt right-at least Trump is dumping some like Bannon and Gorka–good thing.

@Rich Wheeler: You mean in Obama’s 8 years, he had a few decimal points greater drop in black unemployment (accompanied by a decrease in labor participation) than Trump accomplished in 6 months (accompanied by an INCREASE in labor participation)?

Poll numbers? Still clinging to that, even after the 2016 polling disaster? Why? Because it’s all you have to cling to?

Trump dumped Gorka? Obviously, you haven’t seen him on the news this morning. Oh…. that’s right. You subscribe to willful ignorance.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Gorka wasn’t forced out?
Trump isn’t under 37% approval?
He doesn’t spray himself orange?
He originated M.A.G.A.?

Wake up Bill—you’re worshiping a false god.

@Rich Wheeler:

African American unemployment was at a nigh of 16.8% in March of 2010 and has been on a relatively steady decline since then Was 7.7% when Trump took office and is currently 7.1%

Under Obama black unemployment went from 12.7 up to 14.8 in his first six months of office and you’re gritching because it only went down .6% under Trump? (yeah, yeah, we know “but, but Bush”)

How long did it take Obama to reduce black unemployment .6%? Ummmm?

—so DT taking credit is like a rooster thinking the sun came up because he crowed.

Kinda like you thinking you’re Mr. Stud Muffin in your muscle shirt?

Trump is a blatant fabricator and his over sized ego and belly make him hard to watch.

I know, because in your home state you have such beauties as Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.

Much greater drop in Black unemployment under BHO than under DT. Do you disagree?

Absolutely not. And it only took Obama 5 1/2 years to get that .06% drop.

A CBS reporter just said polls came out and Trump maintains 80 % approval rating of republican voters, he hasnt lost the base that got him in office and Republican Congress should take careful note of that.
Those that like polls there are some that show better for Trump http://tennesseestar.com/2017/06/06/new-poll-trump-approval-rating-sky-high-among-likely-gop-primary-voters-in-tennessee/
48% of voters – and 63% of Republicans – don’t think it is possible for the president to ever do anything the media will approve of.
Rich, he doesnt spray himself orange he pays other people to do that.

Ret 05 So BHO drops it about 6% in 8 years and Trump drops it .6% in 6 months—I’d call it a push.
BTW You could make a similar argument about the stock market rise under both.

Bottom line–Trump’s made a lot of promises—written a lot of checks–his Presidency will be determined by how many he can cash.

RET 05 Are you still trolling my F.B page? You and RT LOL

@kitt: The base didn’t elect him–80% of 40% is 32%–he got 46% he’s lost indies and disaffected Dems who elected him.– That’s why he’s at about 35%

Pays others to spray paint him orange—agreed.

CBS reporter you say–but aren’t they fake news?

@Rich Wheeler:

Ret 05 So BHO drops it about 6% in 8 years and Trump drops it .6% in 6 months—I’d call it a push.

I’d call your argument b/s. Apples and oranges. Bottom line? It took Obama 5 1/2 years to drop black unemployment .06%. And much of what Obama did hindered the recovery, not helped it. So much for all those “shovel ready” jobs he blathered about.

BTW You could make a similar argument about the stock market rise under both.

So? Not the point of discussion, but you must obfuscate, mustn’t you?

Bottom line–Trump’s made a lot of promises—written a lot of checks–his Presidency will be determined by how many he can cash.

How many did Obama cash? Gitmo? Still open, last I heard. Even with Obama draining the terrorists out of there and releasing them to come after us again. End the war in Afghanistan? How did that work out? Improve our reputation with foreign nations? Yeah, as they walked all over us. Honduras? Turkey? Egypt? Iraq? Afghanistan? Syria? Do you really count those as a measure of Obama’s foreign policy successes?

Obama was a disaster and (God help me) even Hillary would have been better. Obama was given a golden opportunity. He could have done a lot to heal race relations in this nation. Instead, he made them worse. Hello? California? History will not be kind to Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

RET 05 Are you still trolling my F.B page?

Nope. Having had to flush out my eyes after one visit was enough.

@Rich Wheeler:

CBS reporter you say–but aren’t they fake news?

They are all pretty much fake, both sides, look for other sources of info research what they report cause they dont.
Are you still going off to join Antifa to fight the weirdos with patio accessories?

@Nanny G: @Bill… Deplorable Me: @kitt: @retire05:

Exactly and thanks for actually validating the premise of my argument in my question to Curt.

It just doesn’t matter what Trump does, doesn’t do, or lies about, how more racist he becomes, how more incompetent he becomes, regardless of how much more evidence of corrupt dealings with a foreign adversary, or even if did follow through and shot someone in the streets to prove he wouldn’t lose a supporter (which of course, you would somehow blame that murder on liberals or Obama or Hillary), you will be here with nonsensical gibberish and outright lies to defend your outright liar. It just doesn’t matter, you will just make up anything. Even getting back to my question to Curt which he tucked tail and left his for his trolls, even if Trump pardoned the the Charlottesville driver, can a single one of you admit that you’d talk unfavorably of Trump and his decision?

Nanny assigns credit to Trump for gas prices and the orking fins clap. Most of his list consist of Executive Orders which you dishonestly bashed as unconstitutional under Obama but you now cheer under trump. You once wailed in agony at the concept of Harry Reid and the nucleus option but now cheer Trumps SCOTUS as success and proper senatorial procedure. Nanny credits “Bids for border wall are well underway” but neglects the lie that we will pay that winning bidder, not Mexico which was Trumps repeated promise. He brags of Trumps 600000 jobs in almost a year yet that doesn’t compare to Obama’s job numbers and economic recovery which you complained about. He lies in his #62 yet there you are in his defense.

Trump just pardoned a racist law breaker and here you are spinning in his defense. He’s told lie after lie after lie and you’re all fighting for room up his ass. Interestingly, Dr. John constantly wrote on FA of Obama’s “lies” which you all joined in yet Trump now gets a pass on every one, which well exceeds anything Obama could possibly dream of. As said, you will defend him regardless of what he does or doesn’t do. It doesn’t matter as you’re just that damn partisan bigoted and that damn dishonest.

@retire05:

Under Obama black unemployment went from 12.7 up to 14.8 in his first six months of office and you’re gritching because it only went down .6% under Trump? (yeah, yeah, we know “but, but Bush”)

And there it is again in black and white-a complete denial of reality, obfuscation of history, and sheer political hackery with of course, the other sockpuppets here orking in accordance. It’s telling that you can assign credit for Trump for what he didn’t do, blame Obama for the failures of his predecessor, yet chastise your argumentative opponent for even mentioning that predecessor’s failures. Your argument is flawed as it assumes the economy was pretty much on the same level or playing field when Obama took office as it was when Trump did (and of course if it wasn’t, well, you just can’t talk about that because that would be crying “but but Bush”). Well, it wasn’t as history well dictates. Regardless of who to blame, Obama stepped into an economy in freefall. And you actually bellyache to RW about “apples to oranges” arguments. The argumentative fraudulence, intellectual dishonesty, ideological bigotry, and abject hypocrisy coming from the FA regulars seems to know no bounds.

@Bill… Deplorable Me:
While I should know better but just for sport,, about this question you keep asking me about Hillary. I’ll play along but at this point, you’re just throwing a hypothetical as if it were fact. When, where, or whatever did this n-word come from her? If you’re just making it up, I’m not going to engage. Show me a credible source (no, moonbattery.com or lockuphillary.com doesn’t count) or maybe an exact quote and place and time this occurred and I don’t mind answering your question if I think she’s racist.

Oh, 1 more thing (and I know this is asking a lot), but considering our conflicting views and arguments on racism (I mean, I don’t think we’ve ever agreed-or of course, you might actually agreed but too dishonest and liberal hate infested to admit it), for me to answer your question, I need to know how specifically you define racism. You can use Websters if you like or just say if you agree or disagree or just point me to a link you agree with on the definition.

If you do those 2 things 1)give credence to your claim of Hillary using the n-word and 2) define racism as you perceive it, I’ll follow through with an answer.

@Rich Wheeler:

Bottom line–Trump’s made a lot of promises—written a lot of checks–his Presidency will be determined by how many he can cash.

EXACTLY!! EX-f**king-ACTLY! So, why don’t you interfering, whining, sore-loser crybabies step back, shut up and let’s SEE how much he can get done? He’s already cut the amount of illegal immigration, cut the debt, strengthened the economy, strengthened our credibility and influence abroad, improved national security and helped out vets. Imagine what he would do without a new, imaginary accusation arising every day.

Are Melania’s shoes REALLY an important issue to report on?

@retire05: I believe history will be kind to BHO–DT will be one and out and rank below Nixon.
Somewhat surprised you’ve fallen for his blatant self serving–ego not financially driven Presidency—gave you too much credit.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Melania should know better–she won’t make that Antoinette mistake again–see Mnuchin’s wife–ouch.
Dt says he understands water damage cause he’s a builder-OUCH
Let’s wait and see how many accusations are imaginary.

Kitt I honestly never heard of Antifa till you FA’ERS started screaming about them.
Problem is DT SEEMED to equate them to the KKK–Do you agree with him?

@kitt:

Are you still going off to join Antifa to fight the weirdos with patio accessories?

Good one. He is on a roll on this thread. He must have gotten all pumped up from their weekend of thuggery in Berkley. Did you see the video of one of these self proclaimed warriors against racism sucker punching a black Trump supporter? I guess they need to keep the blacks who don’t bow to their political views in line.

@Richard Wheeler: #32 Actually I think the Antifa are worse than the KKK and neo nazis rolled together. Paid rioters with no goal except destruction of the constitution.
The KKK is such a tiny group now they pose no threat, the Neos another fringe group with a dead ideology.
But never hearing of a group and willing to join them, if you want adventure try the french foreign legion. The Antifa are anti American, I never took you as an anarchist or some masked rioter. Really must ponder why the destruction of history is important to them, its what Hitlers cronies did book bunings ect.. The tearing down of statues cant erase the facts. Rome fell because the gates were opened from inside. The first thing savages do when taking over is destroy the knowledge, else we would know how they built the pyramids.

@kitt: Worse than the KKK and Neo Naziis—damn Kitt–even Trump didn’t go that far.

BTW Did you catch The Donald saying he understands water damage because he’s a builder? Real piece of work this guy.

Kudos to DT for forcing out Bannon and Gorka-2 very bad actors.

@Richard Wheeler:

Melania should know better–she won’t make that Antoinette mistake again–see Mnuchin’s wife–ouch.
Dt says he understands water damage cause he’s a builder-OUCH
Let’s wait and see how many accusations are imaginary.

None of your points are anything but sore loser belly-aching. So, Melania can’t wear nice shoes anymore (she changed to running shoes on AF1 for Houston)? Are you aware that, after a flood, there is often found water damage? We’ve already seen how many accusations are imaginary. To date, ALL OF THEM. But, you keep trying as long as your widdle hurt feewings drive you to. Poor baby.

There’s this:

Melania Trump in Texas After Harvey vs Michelle Obama in NJ After Sandy

But, what’s facts to a liberal?

Problem is DT SEEMED to equate them to the KKK–Do you agree with him?

He equated the cause of the violence from both sides, and I agree with him, except for this: up until Charlottesville, we haven’t heard much from the white supremacists and they have certainly not been the source of any violence while ANTIFA has been violent since they arrived on the scene. ANTFA is bigoted, if not racist and they are a working tool of the left. Do you support or denounce them?

Also, since no other leftist has the balls to answer, do YOU think Hillary dropping the N-bomb makes her a racist? This is not the first time, you know.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Water damage? Like Trump you don’t get it Bill.

Believe AJ asked you “when where whatever” re HRC use of n-word –Have you done that?
He also asked for YOUR definition of racism–have you done that?

@Richard Wheeler:

BTW Did you catch The Donald saying he understands water damage because he’s a builder? Real piece of work this guy.

And how are you so psychic that you are so sure he doesnt understand? Cause some media dope told you so?
Your comment on the Flotus is really quite petty, or is that another repeat of some media moron.
Warming up the guillotine?

Worse than the KKK and Neo Naziis—damn Kitt–even Trump didn’t go that far.

I know Trump didn’t go that far he has to walk a finer line than I do. Learn a bit more about Antifa and you may agree with me. Better yet prove me wrong, prove they dont show up just to cause violence.

@kitt: Of course he understands water damage–you don’t get it either–do you?

Does Antifa lynch Blacks? Do they gas Jews?
What do they do COMPARABLE to that?

My comment about FLOTUS and Mrs. Mnuchin They sure as hell won’t make the same mistake again. Ya think?

@Richard Wheeler:

My comment about FLOTUS and Mrs. Mnuchin They sure as hell won’t make the same mistake again. Ya think?

Exactly what mistake dis the FLOTUS make?
Are you a big reader of Vogue cause the swipe originated there, you are becoming a frigging robot no mind of your own.
Yes Antifa would murder, with bike locks sticks with nails driven through them, cement filled soda cans.
Your references to important history are just that, history.
Siemens has been out of the human oven business for a long time.
http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Companies_That_Surprisingly_Collaborated_With_the_Nazis

@kitt: Me a robot?
Do you even understand why the large majority of Americans —not you and the other 30% Trumpeteers—are upset with Trump’s ridiculous tweets—understand water damage because he’s a builder–he might add one of the greatest? People are dying and losing everything in 4-6 ft of torrential rain and he’s talking water damage to buildings.WTF

He’s saying there were many “good people” walking with the KKK and white supremicists–good people would stay the hell away from them.

During the flood he’s tweeting praise of Arpaio and touting that hate filled Milwaukee Sheriffs book??

This guy may be great for his 30% base like you but how bout the rest of America

BTW When is he gonna give RR credit for M.A.G.A.?

When’s he gonna tell me which bad foot kept him from serving with me and Mac in Viet Nam? Semper Fi

@Richard Wheeler:

People are dying and losing everything in 4-6 ft of torrential rain and he’s talking water damage to buildings.

He may be already planning the logistics of recovery ,way ahead to making things right. He sees a job to be done. Vision, planning then action.
Yes many lost everything, every thing, things but are alive to rebuild, get new things, everything new. When the clouds are gone there will be no excuse to be able bodied and unemployed.
The survivors need to hear there is a tomorrow someone to lead them to recovery.
He is doing everything in his power to see to the needs of the victims. I am sorry to hear you only see negative can only record and repeat it.
This disaster needs more than $, look at all the money donated for Haiti, enough to rebuild the most needed items 13.2 billion. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/haiti-earthquake-anniversary_us_5875108de4b02b5f858b3f9c
Damn lucky HRC isnt in charge.

@Ajay42302:

While I should know better but just for sport,, about this question you keep asking me about Hillary. I’ll play along but at this point, you’re just throwing a hypothetical as if it were fact. When, where, or whatever did this n-word come from her? If you’re just making it up, I’m not going to engage. Show me a credible source (no, moonbattery.com or lockuphillary.com doesn’t count) or maybe an exact quote and place and time this occurred and I don’t mind answering your question if I think she’s racist.

I swear, you are such an irredeemable cowardly liar. Or, perhaps, in your Dome of Propaganda you have locked yourself in, you simply are immune to facts. Though I’ve posted it before and you scurried away from it, here it is again.

You believe Couric, don’t you? She’s one of your mouthpieces.

http://freshdaily.news/hillary-clinton-caught-on-hot-mic-trash-talking-that-nr-obama/

And this isn’t the first time Hillary has been reported using racial slurs, as her staff and protection detail have reported it. So, racist or acceptable?

@Richard Wheeler:

Water damage? Like Trump you don’t get it Bill.

Yeah, I don’t get it. So, explain what I am missing. What, exactly, are you whining about?

GDP being revised UP instead of down for a change.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/30/us-revised-second-quarter-gdp.html

@Bill… Deplorable Me:

Yes, I’ve heard of the Couric accusation but it hasn’t been substantiated. Actually, factcheckers in groves have disputed it. So I was hoping you would give me something of substance rather than, well, fake news.

And you ran like a scalded dog from my question on what YOU consider to be racist or racism. Could that be because any credible definition of it would certainly disclaim your beliefs of Saint Donald? And hell, even the very general beliefs of this hate festered blog?

The reason I don’t answer your questions (aside from your insignificance along with being no more than a dishonest troll attempting to derail my arguments to Curt, Dr John, Bigot Bob et al) is that you play that “A Boy And A Wise Man” where it doesn’t matter what the wise man says, the boy still wants to win. But even in your “heads you win/tails I lose” silliness, you even lie about what you even wrote when it’s right there in front of us in black and white.

So, to paraphrase your very frequent responses to me, I’m waiting on those answers.

I cannot play along with your sophomoric distraction without them as they are necessary variables needed to provide you with an educated and logical answer. And, sure, you can just lie, spin, and deny as usual afterwards.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: RE WATER DAMAGE see my #41 to Kitt.
Fox News Poll–the one Donald says is the truth– has 56% saying DT is dividing America. Go figure

@Ajay42302:

Yes, I’ve heard of the Couric accusation but it hasn’t been substantiated. Actually, factcheckers in groves have disputed it. So I was hoping you would give me something of substance rather than, well, fake news.

As I figured, as I expected… cowardice. Abject cowardice and lies. OK, let me fill in the blanks. Yes, she is a racist. This is not the first time she has been reported going off on a tirade and dropping not just N-bombs, but epithets against Jews and Hispanics as well. Now, to extrapolate, as you like to do, since SHE is a racist, that means anyone that supports her is a KKK-loving racist as well. See where this is going? YOU have designated YOURSELF a racist, since you support, wholeheartedly and fully, Hillary, the racist hater. Yep, you’re a racist because you support racists and racism.

And you ran like a scalded dog from my question on what YOU consider to be racist or racism.

You’ve never posed such a question, but I would be more than happy to answer it. Racism is making judgments and prejudices based solely on race. Pretty simple, huh? So, that makes Obama a racist, YOU a racist, Black Lives Matter racist and ANTIFA racists because because you ALL make determinations that are solely race-based. Furthermore, using race as a political weapon is racist, as it diminishes the impact of REAL racism.

So, since Trump has NEVER said anything that even tangentially, marginally, figuratively or literally that even SLIGHTLY fits into that category, only a racist would believe that they could make Trump appear to be a racist, for that would be only to serve a political end, i.e., to try (TRY) to make Trump appear more despicable than every leading Democrat you idiots have to offer up as candidates.

The reason I don’t answer your questions is because I am a liberal, whining, lying, coward. No other reason, really, because when I am posed a question that irrefutably deconstructs the liberal agenda, I scurry away and hide back behind the baseboard again.

There, I corrected that for you. Read it and LEARN from it, racist coward.

@Richard Wheeler:

RE WATER DAMAGE see my #41 to Kitt.

So, it is your understanding of all of Trump’s statements about Harvey and the Gulf Coast that all he said was he understands water damage? Again, I think we have exposed your problem; you subsist on liberal sound bites that tell you what they want you to be told, not what the actual story is. What you are saying is that Trump flew down to Houston, got off the plane, went to a microphone and stated, “I understand water damage”, then left. That, Rich, is pretty damn pitiful. REALLY sadly pitiful. Unless you enjoy wallowing in that self-induced hate, I strongly recommend you find his entire statements and listen to them. Closely. Later on, when you write on the subject, you won’t appear (falsely, I am sure) to be such an ignorant dumbass.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: If there is an ignorant dumbass among us you’ll find him by looking in your mirror Bill. Did I say Trump only spoke of water damage?
Like Trump you love to hurl insults at people. Shows a total lack of class and self worth—easy to see why you worship him.

@Richard Wheeler: OK, while I get my apology ready, tell me… what ELSE did Trump talk about and why did the reference to his experience with water damage strike you as so onerous?

@Bill… Deplorable Me: IT wasn’t onerous–it was irrelevant in the big picture–people were dying and families were stranded by 4-6 feet of torrential rains and as a builder he’s speaking of water damage? Do you understand how ridiculous and insensitive that sounds to MOST people.
He praised Sherriff Joe and hawked Sheriff Clark’s book He praised the FEMA head, General Kelly and other members of his admin—praised the first responders. Waved a Texas flag and praised Texans–bet you liked that.
Said HE was gonna do the best job ever etc

As you know I’ve praised Trump for his choice of Mattis and Kelly and the removal of Flynn The Mooch, Manafort, Bannon and Gorka—I think he’s learning and improving.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Nevermind Rich voted 3rd party thinking the harpy had it in the bag, then he could sit back watch the US go down the toilet and say his hands were clean.
No matter what Trump does or says or doesnt do or doesnt say they will find something as earth shattering as the shoes or cap on Trumps wife to swipe at. False accusations, whine, brainlessly repeat any sliver of BS.
I was checking out if Trump had donated 1 million to disaster relief and it is confirmed, the left wing site said “waaa waaa a tax deduction!”
Pretty thin when the Clintons only donated to their own charity for a tax dodge.
Its too horrible to praise somebody responsible for coordinating the efforts.
He praised members of law enforcement oooh bad. But it got under some pretty thin skins so mission accomplished.