On the third night of the Democratic convention, a speaker finally brought up defeating ISIS and other terrorists — only to be met with boos from the crowd.
“These murderers must be stopped,” declared former Secretary of Defense and CIA Director Leon Panetta. Cue the deafening chorus of boos, plus chants of “No more war!” from convention delegates.
Mind you, Panetta’s speech was offering yet another broadside against Donald Trump’s inexperience. “This is no time to gamble with our future. America faces flash points and threats from around the globe,” the ex-SecDef warned.
“Lies, lies, lies,” the delegates replied.
Yes, it was a minority of the hall, but definitely a loud one. And when convention managers resorted to dousing the lights over the delegations doing the most jeering, the delegates started flashing their cellphone lights and continued to drown out Panetta.
Which helps explain why no speaker brought up the terrorist threat — or groups like Boko Haram and ISIS — on the first two nights.
Darn rotten dirty demacrats the same bunch of wussietards who sat on their little backsides demanding more gun control laws? DIRTY DEMS GO AWAY
Note: The Obama administration has been at war with ISIS for nearly 2 years now—pursuing a real strategy rather than an imaginary one—and Clinton just vowed to stay the course until it’s finished.
If you see someone in uniform wearing this ribbon or this ribbon, be sure to ask them how they feel about Donald’s comments that our military is “a disaster,” and is accomplishing nothing against ISIS.
Trump on Twitter, an hour ago:
So, instead we should…uh… What the hell does that even mean?
@Greg: What it means, Greg, is that you’re a f*ckstain with nothing to contribute to any political conversation beyond being a propagandist for the Dem/Lib minority in the US.
Every “point” you make is so easily countered…so easily defeated that I’m not sure you’re truly a sane person at this point.
Or, you’re getting paid…
Either way, “YOU’RE FIRED!!”
(I am so, so clever)
And yet I don’t see much being countered with anything more than increasingly rude personal insults. I guess that’s The Trump Effect.
I think my country deserves far better than this guy. I think my country is far better than the picture Donald Trump paints. I reject the negativity. I reject the anger, the ignorance, the fear-mongering, and the vulgarity. I will not be led down that path by some charlatan who claims we’re doomed unless we follow him, but doesn’t even provide the most basic itinerary. I don’t know why republicans have fallen for such a pitch. I don’t know why they don’t snap out of it and take back their party.
What would Ronald Reagan think about him, and about his political methodology? That would be a measure of just how far off the path Donald Trump has led the GOP.
Clinton on NATO, ISIS, and Donald Trump.
And Donald, being the Donald, presumably talking about Michael Bloomberg.
Hey, Putin is also a little guy. Trump could take him. He could knock him right off his bear. And there’s always the launch button as a back-up.
He got boo’ed for calling for the defeat of ISIS at the DNC?
Consider his audience:
That 1st night there were NO American flags.
The audience brought flags they appreciated.
Flags representative of regimes that soaked themselves in the blood of their own citizens and their enemies. Soviet flags, Communist Chinese flags, Palestinian flags.
The audience boo’ed the prayer, too.
The audience cheered a bunch of women whose only claim to fame was that they had a son or brother or boyfriend killed by their own actions when involved with police or private citizens who wish to live peaceably.
So, the boo’ed this guy, too.
Kind of puts the lie to the idea they want ISIS defeated, huh.
@Greg: Trump hasn’t said the military is a disaster. He has said Obama’s strategy is a disaster. Which it is. Obama knows how to create disasters but he’s not too able to reel them in. This is proven.
Likewise Hillary, which is why it is amazing he has even been considered as a candidate. Only liberals…
Yeah, we deserve better than Trump, but Trump is far better than Hillary OR Obama. The sound, documented, historic reasons are listed above.
Hillary is a corrupt liar that has proven herself incompetent. Trump is far, far better, both as a person and as an American. Note, Greg, that I don’t have to lie or exaggerate to make my case against Hillary. Note that.
He most certainly did. Here’s what he said in response to a question from Maria Bartiromo of Fox Business Net during the sixth GOP primary debate on January 14, verbatim. The question had to do with his constant angry tone:
This was during the “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this any more” populace phase of his primary campaign, when his target audience consisted of the angriest disaffected republicans.
Fortunately he he has now revealed his true nature as a thoughtful, mature, imperturbable man, fully capable of the restraint and carefully measured words and decisions that any president must be up to, instantly and under pressure, during moments of extreme danger and national crisis.
Building up military is cheap when you consider alternative. (Nov 2015)
Strengthen military, but act defensively. (Oct 2015)
So, it is clear Donald Trump is referring to Obama’s military.
Obama has been tearing apart his military.
Top leaders (both Generals and Admirals) have been removed and replaced by PC wimps.
Politifact, a Left-leaning ”fact-checker,” has this:
In other words not every part comes from such places.
Not every war plane we contract for is sold to a foreign land.
ww.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/a-democrat-finally-calls-for-defeating-isis-and-gets-booed/#comment-505534″>Nanny G, #10:
Obama has no military. The United States has a military, which is neither weak nor ineffective.
It was seriously stressed after two prolonged, off-budget ground wars in the Middle East, which burned through enormous quantities of ordnance and military equipment, but has largely recovered under the Obama administration. Certain programs have been cut. Sequestration made that necessary. The VA system was also put under enormous stress as a result of the Middle East conflicts. It’s worth noting that there was considerable republican resistance to democratic efforts to expand veterans’ benefits and to expand veteran spending, though there’s certainly been no shortage of opportunistic finger-pointing every time a problem has come up. Republicans are big on flag-waving and patriotic, pro-military and veteran rhetoric, but not so quick to put their money where their mouth is.
Donald says he’s going to have a veteran hot-line direct to the White House, manned 24/7 to handle any veteran problem on the spot. Finally, a detailed plan for something!
Does anybody think about what this guy is saying?
@Greg: Then he is referring to this:
We are headed back to the Carter era where a mission to rescue hostages was scrubbed because of equipment failure, which led to a deadly disaster. THAT is the disaster; not the military, but the government support of the military… and he is, again, EXACTLY right. On every count he is right.
And what is Hillary campaigning on? Fixing everything she and Obama say does not exist!! Poor wages, slow economy, racial animosity, terror threats… all this after 8 years of Obama that Obama says he has resolved is going to somehow fixed by the very people that, A, created the problems and, B, refuse to admit they exist.
But Hillary is going to fix it. It doesn’t exist, but she’ll fix it.
FOX News has made half of America stupid.
Fact-checking GOP candidate claims on Obama’s military spending
Who’s responsible for overall cuts in the military budget, anyway? Are we supposed to believe that’s entirely Obama’s doing? Or that of the House democratic minority?
Greg, Obama threatened to veto defense bills for years now.
This year’s bill was too rich for Obama’s blood!
What was Obama holding out for?
@Nanny G, #14:
He’s holding out because the GPO-led Congress does not intend to honor the central tenet of the budget deal that was just mentioned. As the article goes on to point out, they intend to offset the additional $18 billion in defense expenditures—which the Pentagon didn’t request to begin with—with reductions in non-defense domestic spending, as the article points out. No doubt that would please certain unspecified defense contractors.
They’re never entirely straightforward with their legislation these days. There always seems to be a stated intention upfront, with some devious secondary motive and effect hiding somewhere just out of sight.
Obama proposed sequester, the Republicans gave in on taxes, but it is still the Republican’s fault
More Obama lies about sequestration
Obama responsible for sequester, moves the goal posts, Woodward column
House proposes options to sequestration, Senate ignores them
Speaking of not honoring agreements…
Obama promised to veto any law against sequester
Obama continues to play games with sequestration
Illegal immigrants released due to sequestration….TWO DAYS BEFORE IT TAKES EFFECT
Make effects of sequester match hype
Worried so much about budgets and sequester, TSA spends $50 million on uniforms; more than Marine Corps
5000 more illegal immigrants to be released due to sequester
During sequester, government hiring
Obama is a liar. He lies. Obama has lusted after defense funds to blow on his failed social programs. Hillary will be no different, though graft and corruption will most likely skyrocket (necessarily, as it were, since Hillary promotes a culture of corruption, being corrupt herself). It is always more expensive to rebuild our military than it is to maintain its strength and the cost of weakness is evident today, thanks to Obama.
@Greg: There is a difference in being at war and actually trying to win a war.@Bill: Bill, did Woodard work for Fox news? LOL
So, you’re saying that, if Obama wants an extra $1 billion + for fighting Zika, the Defense budget has to also get an extra $1 billion + ?
So, you’re saying calling you a liberal or a dimocrat is a rude personal insult?
Maybe, then, republicans should explain exactly what that difference is, in terms of their specific and detailed alternative strategy against ISIS.
They have never at any point done that, just as Trump has never at any point done that, because they have no such alternative. Their claims that they do know how to WIN, and “to Kick Ass in Business and Life” in general, has become an insult to the intelligence of the American people—at least to those with sufficient intelligence to be insulted.
I’m coming to think of them as anything but patriots. Allow me to count the ways:
They promote politically exploitable disunity rather than national unity.
They promote the idea that the economy is failing, eroding confidence.
They promote the idea that the tax system is corrupt, while they dodge taxes.
They promote the idea that the highest courts and investigative agencies are corrupt.
They promote a pervasive fear of terrorism, when the average citizen if far more likely to be killed by lightning or a bar of soap in the bathtub, knowing that fear is the very thing terrorists are attempting to exploit.
They have worked constantly to undermine confidence in the nation’s Commander in Chief, claimed that his efforts against ISIS are useless, and claimed that our military forces are weak and ineffective, totally ignoring the facts of a war that has been underway for 2 years—which, by the way, they have refused to authorize.
Oh yeah… They’re also running a reality television show host for president who has revealed detailed plans for nothing; who has discredited the importance of the European Union in the face of threats of growing threats from radical Islam and Russia; who has already diminished faith in Article 5 of the NATO Treaty; who suggests a MASSIVE recession is going to overtake us, while hinting at tariff plans, tax plans, and debt strategies that experts warn could bring that very thing about; and who has two top campaign aids with close connections to Moscow, who have actually worked in the past as the paid promoters of Russian interests.
Maybe I’ll stop here, though there’s plenty more that could be added. We could always talk about the fact that republicans have had control of both the House and the Senate for going on two years now, but have yet to accomplish anything useful. They haven’t even gotten around to the matter of JOBS, which they swore throughout the last election campaign was their NUMBER ONE TOP PRIORITY. The current excuse seems to be that gridlock is actually useful; that the federal government works best when no governance is practiced; that their best service in return for $174,000 per year salaries involves going through the motions while actually doing nothing.
sounds about right, full of gays, and boy/girls that don’t want to use their own restrooms. They are not allowed to win at anything they attempt. They don’t even get disbursed to Benghazi. When you have nothing but contempt for the objectives of the military, you don’t help them out very much. They need a leader in the White House.
@Greg:IMPORTANT NOTICE, Greg now admirer of Trump!
Greggie, I will store this for you so that you can just link to it when you need to say it again.
here’s link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xecVsuCD2258S988q8ZbiwkPQiQeul28qlJtLHISmE0/edit?usp=sharing
No doubt a temperamentally unsuitable reality television show host with a hamster for a hairpiece and the endorsement of Vladimir Putin would be the perfect choice.
@Greg: What? you’re trying to say you didn’t say what you said in comment 9 above? Where you were very complimentary of Trump and you said:
Well, you can’t un-say it. And if you need to repeat it, I provided a link above.
absolutely needed now. Will be filled appropriately in January.
That, sir, was what is called sarcasm.
I’m not sure about the safety of publicly posting Google documents. They might be an unnecessary security risk, like publicly revealing an email address.
Sounds exactly like you liberals. Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, Soros thugs attacking political opponents, “war on women”… sound familiar?
1.1% growth this quarter. .7% last quarter. The 1.1% is sure to be revised down, later when everyone is looking at different figures, as is done each time figures are released.
What… like these guys?
Liberals love higher taxes… for US
The liberals that support taxes the most cheat the biggest
Soros, another hypocritical liberal, could owe $13 billion in taxes
Sharpton’s “non-profit” National Action Network $1.6 million in debt, pays Sharpton $242,000
While Hollywood elites preach higher taxes, they rake in tax breaks
Buffett, Soros avoid inheritance taxes
Obama to use his “tax exempt” propaganda arm to exert pressure for gun control passage
Raise taxes on us, don’t pay theirs
(sorry, I was limited to these; I could not include all 26 that I had)
No, liberals judges and investigations that do not even interview prime witnesses promotes the idea that they are corrupt.
14 in San Bernardio, 49 in Orlando would probably disagree with you. They didn’t slip on no soap.
You know, Greg, when you see your own party doing these things, just saying someone else did it instead doesn’t make the stink go away.
So, if I click on all of those links, Donald Trump will somehow no longer be the worst possible match for the U.S. presidency to have come along in 227 years?
fortunately, you don’t have to worry about having a worse president than what you’ve had the last 8 years. There will never be another so less qualified. Even Hillary, at a zero qualification is above Obozo
You don’t have to be worried about telling the truth.
@Greg: No, thanks to Obama he CAN’T be the worst President in 227 years.
Meanwhile, the war that the Obama administration is not fighting against ISIS continues…
US launches airstrikes on ISIS targets in Libya
@Greg: Why are we launching air strikes against ISIS in Libya, Greg? We weren’t before Obama and Hillary. Why are we having to now, Greg?
Why do you think? Because that’s another place where ISIS is exploiting instability.
Are you under the impression that the Obama administration or Hillary Clinton somehow created Libyan instability? As I recall, a civil war was underway in Libya for many months before we became involved. I remember republicans raising hell because the Obama administration wasn’t intervening. And then raising hell the moment he did. Donald Trump reversed his position on that overnight, as I recall, to stay on the opposite side from the Obama administration.
Do you imagine the crumbling Gaddafi regime would have kept them out? If so, you must not understand the nature of the problem:
Islamic State calls on members to carry out jihad in Russia
@Greg: Uh, exploiting the instability Hillary and Obama created. Just as they created the instability in Iraq and Syria.
After Obama created the fertile petre dish in Iraq for the ISIS virus to grow and multiply, quite possibly he wouldn’t. But, then again, he was also having to deal with the Obama-supported Arab Spring.
… which they would have been in no position to carry out jihad in Russia… or the US… had Obama not allowed them to expand and grow powerful.
Kind of getting it? Anything? Hello?!?
Did you miss the part about the Libyan civil war haven’t gone on for months before we intervened? Most people would take civil war as a sign that instability is already present.
And about republicans attacking the Obama administration because we hadn’t intervened? How could we just stand by, and let a dictator indiscriminately slaughter innocent civilians?
I remember the reasons the administration gave for their delays at the time: Because we weren’t certain who the rebels were, or how any arms we provided might be used. That wasn’t good enough for the Obama critics, however. All of which has now been conveniently forgotten, of course.
Their civil war was their business, though, as I pointed out, it was part of the Arab Spring, which Obama had promoted and encouraged. At any rate, Obama and Hillary intervened and TOTALLY destabilized Libya and left the power vacuum they used to abhor. It’s almost as if as long as THEY are wrecking the world, it’s OK.
Job for the UN, but unfortunately the UN is worthless. The US had no business intervening in Libya, or Syria for that matter. We had not interests there.
Plus the fact that Obama pulling all US troops out of Iraq and unleashing ISIS changed the entire situation… for the very worst.
Finally, FOX News has acknowledged that the Obama administration has been waging a deadly serious war against ISIS since 2014. This came during the Tuesday, August 2 edition of Special Report with Bret Baier, featuring Mercedes Schlapp, Kirsten Powers, and Charles Krauthammer as panelists. The topic was the ongoing U.S. airstrikes in Libya. Baier brought up a visual showing the number of airstrikes in Iraq, Syria, and now Libya, since operations began in 2014. The total is now in excess of 10,000. It was noted that the recent Libyan airstrikes are taking advantage of a perfect opportunity to target and destroy concentrated ISIS forces there, which have no clear avenue of escape. Surprisingly, it was then acknowledged by Charles Krauthammer that events are building toward coalition forces retaking Mosul.
It has been reported that targeted ISIS forces in Libya are taking very heavy losses.
@Greg: Funny, I watched that report. There was no revelation that “the Obama administration has been waging a deadly serious war against ISIS since 2014.” In fact, one of the points made was that Obama was trying to clean up some of the abysmal messes he created before he (finally) leaves office.
If you are arguing that Obama has been waging a serious, all-out war against ISIS since 2014, why has it been such a tremendous failure that has allowed ISIS to grown 4000% since he gave them carte blanc in Iraq?
Remind me again why we are having to bomb ISIS in Libya?
What do you think a continuous two year air campaign and the fact that Charles Krauthammer has just noted ISIS will soon be driven out of Mosul mean, then?
Does that somehow square with the right’s bat-shit crazy assertions that nothing effective is being done against ISIS by the Obama administration?
@Greg: Once again… why are we having to try and drive ISIS out of Mosul… or anywhere else, for that matter?
Hey, would these be the 4 Americans Obama and Kerry negotiated so hard-nosed, effectively and adroitly to get freed?