17 States Are Taking Obama To Court Over His Executive Amnesty Action…

That old canard about the imposibility of removing 11 (or more) million illegals is getting stale. We don’t have to remove them, they got here themselves, they can remove themselves. Just make it impossible for them to access anything… no jobs, no schools, no free healthcare, and they will remove themselves.
Frankly, since the pResident is violating the law, I see no reason why the states should either… just let each state deport illegals themselves, and when Obama sues, ignore the courts… sauce for the goose.

@Greg: So why didn’t the Bush administration hop to it and just enforce the law? There were six years when republicans had control of both houses of Congress, in addition to having their man in the White House. Six years during which the number of undocumented aliens grew rapidly.

The hypocrisy on the right since Obama took office is astonishing. It totally ignores any relevant facts. For example, the number of undocumented aliens removed from the United States has been higher during every year of the Obama administration than during any year of the Bush administration. What do people not understand about these numbers?

During those six years we had literally full employment, Greg.
There really were more jobs than workers back then.
Also, if you recall, the Republican Party was quite divided about illegals, with the Chamber of Commerce side winning big time over the tight border side.
Then there is the new definition of ”removed” by Obama that gave him his big numbers.
Bush’s numbers do not reflect people turned away AT THE BORDER.
Obama’s numbers do.

@Greg:

Greg, as usual, you are entirely full of leftist lies and bloviation. To wit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/21/lies-damned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/

Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.

One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/us/us-deportations-drop-43-percent-in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=0

New deportation cases brought by the Obama administration in the nation’s immigration courts have been declining steadily since 2009, and judges have increasingly ruled against deportations, leading to a 43 percent drop in the number of deportations through the courts in the last five years, according to Justice Department statistics released on Wednesday.

Deportations were further reduced by a big increase since 2011 in cases that were suspended, often by agreement between Homeland Security prosecutors and judges. Under the prosecutorial discretion policy, administration officials said they would offer suspensions to clear the court docket of low-priority cases involving immigrants with no criminal records who had families in the United States.

The number of case suspensions rose to 32,454 last year from 6360 in 2011, an increase of more than 400 percent.

http://http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117412/deportations-under-obama-vs-bush-who-deported-more-immigrants

Under Bush, the majority of immigrants that the U.S. sent home were simply “returned.” Nobody took their fingerprints or put a permanent mark on their immigration records. Instead, U.S. authorities put them on buses and sent them back across the border. Between 2001 and 2008, there were over 8.3 million of these informal “returns,” according to the Department of Homeland Security. There were, by contrast, just 2 million “removals.” Those are the more formal deportations—the ones that go through some form of individual review, with an officer if not a judge, and become part of deportees’ permanent records.

But in the second half of the Bush administration, DHS decided to up the number of “removals” and limit the number of “returns.” The government hoped to deter immigrants from sneaking back into the country by making it clear that the U.S. knew who they were—and could punish them more harshly if they showed up again. Under Obama, DHS has stuck with this policy. Between 2009 and 2012, the number of deportations and informal returns was roughly the same—about 1.6 million each. Add up all the relevant numbers, you’ll see removals are on track to end up higher under Obama than Bush (Lind’s point in Vox) but that removals plus returns will end up higher under Bush than Obama (Davis’ point in The Federalist).

http://http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html#page=1

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

Note, Greg – NONE of these are from anti-amnesty sources. Note that no one who opposes this unconstitutional amnesty action from Obama is against people immigrating LEGALLY to the US. It is the ILLEGAL aspect, with the subsequent cost to the taxpayers for all the welfare, foodstamps, housing, social security, drunken driving without a valid license, etc., that has people with any fiscal awareness up in arms over this act of national suicide.

You can spew all your lies and disinformation propaganda all you wish, but Gruber has crystallized how the collectivists operate with deceit – as the ridiculous claims of Obama being “deporter-in-chief” cl;early are – to lull Americans into ignoring the very real attack on our national sovereignty. The fact that Boehner and the RINOs are trying to avoid defunding Obama’s executive amnesty by aligning with Pelosi et al is not being ignored by Conservatives.

I agree with Jim – deny any and ALL government handouts to illegals, including public schooling for their children – and they will either find a way to apply legally for citizenship, or they will self-deport. It is the same simple concept of the “kind” person who starts putting out cat food on her front porch because she feels sorry for a stray cat she sees on the street. The cat will keep hanging around if she keeps putting out free food, and pretty soon she will have even more stray cats coming around.

If our nation learned anything from the failed (and stupid) amnesty that Reagan signed (after appropriate congressional action, might I add) is that amnesty will NEVER solve the problem. Closing down the border, ending all taxpayer provided welfare and services of any kind to all illegal aliens, ending the deliberate misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment to stop the anchor baby phenomenon – those are the steps to ending the illegal alien problem.