redridinghood tipped this a little while ago.
Former President Donald Trump is suing 2016 Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in a sprawling case that accuses her of conspiring with dozens of other actors — frequent targets of Trump’s conspiracy theories and rage — to topple his presidency.
Oh, it’s Donald Trump peddling conspiracy theories, not Hillary Clinton and the RussiaGate conspiracy theorists.
I see, Politico.
The new lawsuit, filed Thursday in federal court in Fort Pierce, Fla., accuses Clinton, her campaign, various campaign aides, former FBI Director James Comey, the Democratic National Committee and others of racketeering conspiracy for allegedly joining in “an unthinkable plot” to falsely accuse him of colluding with Russia in the 2016 presidential election.”In the run-up to the 2016 Presidential Election, Hillary Clinton and her cohorts orchestrated an unthinkable plot — one that shocks the conscience and is an affront to this nation’s democracy,” the complaint says. “Acting in concert, the Defendants maliciously conspired to weave a false narrative that their Republican opponent, Donald J. Trump, was colluding with a hostile foreign sovereignty.”
The suit accused the defendants of obstruction of justice and theft of trade secrets, as well as unlawful hacking into Trump’s private communications.
Joffe did, in fact, spy on Trump’s communications.
See Durham’s indictment:
“The actions taken in furtherance of their scheme–falsifying evidence, deceiving law enforcement, and exploiting access to highly-sensitive data sources–are so outrageous, subversive and incendiary that even the events of Watergate pale in comparison,” the complaint adds.The sprawling, 108-page complaint reads like a greatest-hits of Trump’s long-held grievances against the public figures most closely associated with the investigation of his campaign’s ties to Russia in 2016. It stitches together disparate details unearthed in the ongoing investigation by special counsel John Durham, as well as long-known details about the FBI’s Russia probe and special counsel Robert Mueller’s subsequent investigation.
The suit appears to seek more than $72 million in damages, which the complaint says is the tally of legal fees and other costs of defending against the alleged untruths. In another court filing in the case, Trump’s attorneys asked for only $21 million.
Public figures can’t generally win in defamation because of the Supreme Court invented rule — which Clarence Thomas (prayers up) says should be examined — that no public figure can be defamed unless it is done with malice or reckless indifference for the truth.
Does Trump have any evidence that this defamatory conspiracy theory was in fact pushed with full knowledge it was false?
In fact, there is. Durham’s indictment of Michael Sussman says the progenitors of the conspiracy theory disbelieved it, and also suggested that they could create evidence that it was true.
The charge was narrow: John H. Durham, the special counsel appointed by the Trump administration to scour the Russia investigation, indicted a cybersecurity lawyer this month on a single count of lying to the F.B.I.But Mr. Durham used a 27-page indictment to lay out a far more expansive tale, one in which four computer scientists who were not charged in the case “exploited” their access to internet data to develop an explosive theory about cyberconnections in 2016 between Donald J. Trump’s company and a Kremlin-linked bank –– a theory, he insinuated, they did not really believe.
Mr. Durham’s version of events set off reverberations beyond the courtroom. Trump supporters seized on the indictment, saying it shows that suspicions about possible covert communications between Russia’s Alfa Bank and Mr. Trump’s company were a deliberate hoax by supporters of Hillary Clinton and portraying it as evidence that the entire Russia investigation was unwarranted.
…Mr. Durham’s indictment provided evidence that two participants in the matter — Mr. Joffe and Michael Sussmann, the cybersecurity lawyer accused of falsely saying he had no client when he brought the findings of the researchers to the F.B.I. — interacted with the Clinton campaign as they worked to bring their suspicions to journalists and federal agents.
…Mr. Durham also found that Mr. Joffe had met with one of Mr. Sussmann’s law firm partners, Marc Elias, who was then the Clinton campaign’s general counsel, and researchers from Fusion GPS, an investigative firm Mr. Elias had commissioned to scrutinize Mr. Trump’s purported ties to Russia. Fusion GPS drafted a paper on Alfa Bank’s ties to the Kremlin that Mr. Sussmann also provided to the F.B.I.
That establishes that FusionGPS, Marc Elias, and Hillary Clinton and her staff (including Jake Sullivan, Biden’s current National Security Adviser) were all in on the hoax.
It doesn’t prove they knew this was fake, but that should be enough to defeat attempts to dismiss the lawsuit.
In the heat of the presidential race, Democrats quickly sought to capitalize on the research. On Sept. 15, four days before Mr. Sussmann met with the F.B.I. about the findings, Mr. Elias sent an email to the Clinton campaign manager, Robbie Mook, its communications director, Jennifer Palmieri, and its national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, whose subject line referred to an Alfa Bank article, the indictment said.Six weeks later, after Slate ran a lengthy article about the Alfa Bank suspicions, the Clinton campaign pounced. Mrs. Clinton’s Twitter feed linked to the article and ran an image stating the suspicions as fact, declaring, “It’s time for Trump to answer serious questions about his ties to Russia.”
Whatever caused the odd data, at issue in the wake of the indictment is whether Mr. Joffe and the other three computer scientists considered their own theory dubious and yet cynically went forward anyway, as Mr. Durham suggests, or whether they truly believed the data was alarming and put forward their hypothesis in good faith.
…The indictment says Mr. Joffe sent an email on Aug. 21 urging more research about Mr. Trump, which he stated could “give the base of a very useful narrative,” while also expressing a belief that the Trump server at issue was “a red herring” and they should ignore it because it had been used by the mass-marketing company.
…He wrote: “If we can show possible email communication between” any Trump server and an Alfa Bank server “that has occurred in the last few weeks, we have the beginning of a narrative,” adding that such communications with any “Russian or Ukrainian financial institutions would give the base of a very useful narrative.”
A false narrative, a “red herring,” but still: “a very useful narrative.”
Defamatory but useful.
That should get the defamation part of the lawsuit past a dismissal for lack of evidence of malice.
03/24/22 – Mo Brooks says Trump keeps asking him to rescind the 2020 election: ‘Take Joe Biden out and put me in now’
Trump withdrew his endorsement of Brooks for the Senate this week, saying Brooks went ‘woke’ by disagreeing with his election fraud claims.
That is not an exact quote. You inserted your opinion
President Donald J. Trump:
“Mo Brooks of Alabama made a horrible mistake recently when he went “woke” and stated, referring to the 2020 Presidential Election Scam, “Put that behind you, put that behind you,” despite the fact that the Election was rife with fraud
Trump’s reelection would destroy the nation. He has pretty much destroyed the GOP already.
Cite ONE THING that would be worse now under Trump than it is under the idiot Biden.
You are batting zero. Trump Russia collusion was fake. Hunter Biden laptop contents are real.
Everything the media you trust and follow told you was true was a lie.
Trump destroyed GOP? Is that why 31 Dems aren’t running for re-election in the house? What is Joey Dementia doing for the Dems?
Go shopping today, buy a clue.
I have no problem with MY posts being pulled from as far back as anyone wants to go. I said then and now that there was not even enough suspicion to justify the suspicion that motivated the endless “investigations”, which were actually just fishing expeditions that sought to backfill the accusations.
There were ample accusations that this was all contrived and, slowly but surely, it is revealed that not only was it all fabricated, but those PUSHING the narrative KNEW it was fabricated all along.
One thing Greg and others have been consistent about is they continue, despite all the evidence to the contrary, to cling to the “Russian collusion” false narrative. They cannot let it go, they cannot admit they have been lied to an made fools of.
I hope Trump wrings them dry.
Nor do I brother deplorable. I applaud Curt for resurfacing comments, in particular from greg, that illustratively demonstrate his wavering view depending on the cause celeb of the day…
Mo Brooks is a good man and has good intentions. He has been a strong voice in the House and would continue as a Senator should his election be successful. But his speech where he pleaded with supporters to get beyond 03/11/2020 was and is a bridge too far.
If we do not resolve the issues around the 2020 election, we cannot move forward. The fraud and manipulation are unacceptable in a Constitutional Republic. If the people of our Republic cannot be confident in our sacred right to free and fair election, we do not have a Republic.
As Benjamin Franklin famously said,
As a quick note, it was Brooks post-election 202 who was one of the first to come out in support of the process of challenging the electoral votes. It was his initiation that had other republican members in both Houses of Congress prepared to challenge the electors during the joint session.
One thing the 2020 election fraud brings into focus is how the Democrats escalate their assault on the Constitution and our system of government as they fail over and over to convince the electorate they can provide better opportunities to them. They have attempted a coup on government, spied on candidates AND a President, wasted millions in public funds for endless and unjustified investigations, trampled due process to pursue two unjustified impeachments, unleashed violent mobs on American cities to intimidate voters and then used widespread fraud to “win” an election. If they are not stopped, what will they stoop to next?
The believe their road to ultimate power and control is noble. They are the ones who promote the Big Lie.
The democrats must be defeated at the ballot box and reduced to a non existent party of influence
[108 page Lawsuit HERE]
In other words, evidence indicates that Trump more likely than not committed a crime. Consequently, Eastman can’t withhold evidence that would allow it to be determined whether or not a crime was actually committed.
“Conspired to obstruct.” As in conspiracy, and obstruction. As if we didn’t know already. But this moves us one step closer to establishing in a courtroom that crimes were actually committed.
From the judgement regarding JOHN C. EASTMAN, Plaintiff, vs. BENNIE G. THOMPSON, SELECT COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE JANUARY 6 ATTACK ON THE US CAPITOL, AND CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY, Defendants; 03/28/2022, UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA SOUTHERN DIVISION.
WHAT evidence? Did Trump Jr. leave a laptop full of explicit evidence of influence peddling and corruption laying around? The “Select Committee” is the “Partisan One-Sided Presumed Result Committee.”
That must be their “big evidence”
03/28/22 – Jared Kushner to appear before House January 6 committee on Thursday, sources say
The insistence that Jan. 6th was something other than an FBI-orchestrated false flag to install an illegal occupant of the WH is the only insurrection going on here.
Democrats and Leftists don’t stand a chance in an actual civil war, should they choose to opening start one.
I’m approved and slated to watch one of the local poll stations here. Can’t wait to do my part to ensure democracy lives, and any shitbag Democrat trying to rig the election is caught and prosecuted.
03/28/22 – House January 6 committee refers contempt charges for Navarro and Scavino
They all think they’re above the law. That’s what Donald effin’ Trump brought to Washington, and would like to bring again.
If only you could find any laws broken, instead of inventing the usual “show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”
Biden and the Democrats commit crimes and get away with it.
“They” being the Biden crime family.
It’s all coming down now. Trying to hide it is futile.
Funny. It was Obama and Holder that ran guns to Mexican cartels. Obama spied on Trump. Hillary illegally kept classified information on her home email server. Hillary destroyed evidence. Hillary lied to Congress. Idiot Biden extorted Ukraine. Idiot Biden and Hunter peddle US government influence. Clapper and Brennan lied to Congress.
Have they been punished or are they above the law?