Why Donald Trump Can Not Be the GOP Nominee in 2024

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When I read Vince’s post asking Is Donald Trump 2024 Worth The Fight? I thought that someone else had beaten me to the punch of an idea I had. It turns out that what Vince wrote was almost all of the background that I wanted to say, stopping just short of the point I wanted to make. So thanks Vince, for saving me a bunch of writing and sourcing! If you haven’t already read his post, go back and read it now. I’ll wait.

OK, now that you’re back, we’ll go back to Vince for a moment. The last portion of his post covers one of the worst aspects of Trump’s presidency, his questionable judgment regarding who he considers allies, as seen by his allying with Ronna McDaniel and Lindsey Graham. He’s still giving interviews to thinly veiled DNC PR flaks who hate him. He’s also dusting of his 2016 tactic of attacking his rivals with demeaning nicknames – Ron DeSanctimonious, and even down to going after Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, a candidate with zero chance of getting the nomination. Same with Nikki Haley. Stephen Kruiser also did a good job of breaking down Trump’s recent behavior and also stops just short of my point as to why Trump is guaranteed to lose on 2024:

He’s still fighting the last war. Or more accurately, he’s still fighting like it’s 2016, and we know how that turned out in 2020. Part of President Trump’s 2016 victory can be attributed to his two biggest establishment foes making the same mistake. Jeb! thought that he was the next Dubya/McCain/Romney, whose foes would get crushed by the GOP Establishment as he cruised to the nomination, where he woud (as I believe it was Kurt Schlichter who described it) get on the debate stage and giggle as Hillary zipped him into his Gimp suit before abusing him en route to a gentlemanly election day loss. Hillary thought the same, only this time her opponent was an outsized personality who her flunkies in the media would be unable to paint as The Devil himself. Nobody thinks for a minute that Jeb! would have brought out all of Bubba’s accusers to the debate.

In 2020 the Democrats did not make the mistake of relitigating 2016. Nobody reading this needs me to recap the many creative ways that the Democrats found a way to get 81 million votes counted for a crusty dementia patient who campaigned out of his basement. And they are not only not fighting 2020 again, but they are already “fortifying” their efforts for 2024, as demonstrated in the 2022 midterms. We already know that the GOPe has done little more than react to the Dems’ efforts to steal the next election – how much effort of this front have we seen from Trump?

At the end of the day, I’m not sure that any Republican can win in 2024, but that’s a post for another day, hopefully soon. My bigger concern beyond the presidency is the down ticket races. The Dems recognized this in their last two races, and screwed Bernie out of the nomination both times. If today’s Donald Trump is at the top of the ticket in 2024, people getting tired of his act might not be as enthusiastic to come out and vote for him. But as the biggest Emmanuel Goldstein The Radical Left has ever known, Trump will be the biggest gift to the Dems’ Get Out the Vote efforts.

And I’d love to be wrong on this, and am still looking for the convincing argument to change my mind.

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1630669657098035202

Brother Bob is no longer on Facebook (although you can see his archives there), and is back on Twitter again, but is ramping up on Minds and Gab, as well as Parler and GETTR, and has his biggest presence on MeWe.

Cross posted from Brother Bob’s Blog

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The GOPe globalists have united against Trump, that’s for sure.
A “loyalty oath?” for the candidate?
Thanks, Ronna.
But, guess how many households watched Trump in Palestine, Ohio?
101 million.
I’m guessing they each have over 1 voter per houshold, too.
Trump may be popular beyond the margin of cheating this time.

They are already winding up the old 2020 vote printing election tactics. We cant vote our way to any victory as long as there are electronic voting machines. They have the bird flu in the wings.
AZ has the cartel in charge, GA when the governor called for a signature audit they murdered his daughters squeeze, he called off the audit and then the investigator of the accident “committed suicide” Trump, Desantis it doesnt matter, who is running the selection will be made and we become either S. Africa or Venezuela. The patients have already taken over the asylum.

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Arizona showed we can’t blindly rely on paper ballots, either. Turns out, as Stalin said, what matters is who (or what) COUNTS the votes.

Have to agree with Kitt. Here in Michigan the fascist, using brain dead university students and others pushed through constitutional amendments on voting that almost guarantee that there will never be a Republican Governor or high office holder in the state again. Five years ago Republicans held the Governorship and both houses. No election security measures were passed at all and now they’ll be in the minority in perpetuity.

That was the Democrats plan for the entire nation, too.

A Mueller investigation, a RINO Paul Ryan in charge of the House for 2 years, a recused Jeff Sessions, Russia, Russia, Russia, two impeachments based on no impeachable charges (Schiff? Where is that “overwhelming evidence” you promised?), and Nancy Pelosi working overtime to assure nothing he wanted got funding. I don’t see a repeat of any of that with Trump getting into office.

Fox News Having Trouble Finding DeSantis Supporters in Florida for 2024 Presidential Run

Fox News has a big sad today.CONTEXT – After months of promoting Ron DeSantis to become the 2024 GOP nominee, which includes the efforts of Rupert Murdoch (and family) via a multimillion-dollar Harper Collins book deal for the Florida governor; lengthy friendly interviews with DeSantis on every program; a full feature infomercial running on Fox News to present him to the national audience; attendance by key program pundits at DeSantis donor events and campaign organization meetings; weeks of specific messaging coordinated with board member Paul Ryan – and the consulting efforts of Karl Rove with the DeSantis operation; they are just not able to move the needle.
With the DeSantis book launch officially taking place today, Fox News Corp sends Brian Kilmeade to Florida to assist the DeSantis operation. Producers used the entire Fox and Friends morning programming to support the intent and Ron DeSantis’s ‘big day’. [See Long Video Here] However, when Brian Kilmeade broadcasts live from the Metro Diner in Ponte Vedra beach to promote the DeSantis narrative, the diners at the venue did not go along with the anticipated narrative. {Direct Rumble Link}
What follows in the live broadcast becomes a hilarious exhibition in how media-driven astroturf propaganda runs directly into the reality of the situation. It really is quite funny to see the escalating desperation of Mr. Kilmeade as he asks whether the audience supports Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis for the 2024 GOP nomination and cannot find anyone who puts DeSantis first – even the lady wearing the DeSantis T-shirt supports Trump first.
WATCH:

But wait, it gets better….. Even more funny.
Corporate Fox News is not going to give up, they had this whole production scripted. Karl Rove who is a key consultant in the managing and branding effort, is left retreating to the narrative that DeSantis doesn’t need to do anything yet. {Direct Rumble Link} Watch below:

FOX big push for Desantis (rumble.com)

Ron DeSantis

Establishment backed Rino Backed by Ken Griffen, Paul Singer and other establishment mega donors.

Nikki Haley

Establishment candidate

Steve Bannon And Steve Cortes Slam Nikki Haley Over Wrong Answer On Defending Taiwan From The CCP – Steve Bannon’s War Room: Pandemic

Steve Cortes quote on Niki Haley, “She has all the ambition of Lucifer, but without the principles.”

Pence

Traitor to America, January 06, 2021.
Establishment candidate

Greg Abbott

Weak on illegal alien invasion
Establishment candidate

Mike Pompeo

Establishment candidate

Vivek Ramaswamy

With all due respect, currently none of the potential opposition to President Trump would win in the general.

Just calling to attention the fact that the bots monitoring this site always send their friends to downvote Bob…

Sad.

I was a DeSantis fan until…something happened…and I’m not sure what that is.

He’s been able to basically copy Trump, but be “less-mean Trump.” Which is what all the whiny Conservatives have called for.

If he was a real threat, they wouldn’t have invented something like Russia Collusion or Gaetz’s “sex-trafficking” hoax by now.

He’s being groomed to be the next Bush: an installed Republican.

My take, at least.

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DeSantis is a proven governor. His backing is the donor class aka, the establishment. More of what we have had. He may disguise himself as Trump lite but at the end of the day he is too far from “America First” for my taste.

Yeah, again….I like the guy, but I’m just not sure he’s free.

I want candidates who are not paid by companies, Soros, or even Koch.

If they are, then the government is now illegal. You can’t buy politicians and call it a democracy.

We are at an inflection point. Americans who know our founding principles know we are facing the most consequential period in our history. The progressives have since the days of Woodrow Wilson wanted to fundamentally change America. It has been a long slug and they have never been a close as they are now in my opinion. Too few Americans are aware of the consequences of voting against their own interests be it democrat or republican.

We may never again have a President so unfettered as Trump. It’s almost too bad he was elected; it spoiled us. If you’ve ever flown 1st class, you are ruined from cattle-car class forever and having a President that puts the nation and the people first and foremost makes one think we could have that every time. Trump was a rare beast indeed.

To keep from being saddled again with utter garbage like idiot Biden, we WILL have to settle for less.

Thanks to Citizens United, it’s no longer possible to separate politics from money.

Thanks to Citizens United, it’s no longer possible to separate politics from money.

Perhaps, but Citizens is just one small piece in a very large problem for this country…one that has turned our governments into extensions of a de facto mafia we didn’t elect.

From the Billions given to Biden by very large banks, tech, and pharma, to the stock tips given to Pelosi, to the FTX money-laundering scam getting funneled back to mostly Democrat candidates, to George Soros installing judges who don’t enforce the law (one was just fired in Florida) we all know the corruption in government concerning dark and corrupt money is the only reason the Democrat Party can even continue to exist.

Don’t leave out Zucky.

Unfounded

Thanks to Citizens United, it’s no longer possible to separate politics from money.

Thanks to unions donating millions to Democrats and Planned Parenthood returning much of the taxpayer money bequeathed them by Democrats back to the Democrats in campaign contributions, that ship sailed long ago. Democrats just hate that the playing field got leveled just a little bit.

Really CU was formed 18 yeas after Acorn..so GTFO.

But he would be 10,000% better than the idiot Biden.

‘They told me anyone wearing Trump has to go now’: Ron DeSantis book signing event in Florida turns ugly when security guard is ordered to boot pro-Donald supporters – as tension between Republican rivals escalates
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11806371/DeSantis-book-signing-event-Florida-turns-ugly-security-guard-ordered-boot-Trumpers.html

Of course, there is a very high probability that those wearing Trump gear were leftists sent there to disrupt the event. It wouldn’t be the first time (January 6th comes to mind).

We live in world now that is smothered in ambiguities. There is no truth, which is a common historical tactic to allow for a regime to pursue it’s goals while disorenting the population.

I honestly believe most paid-off Democrats and Republicans don’t know they are corrupt, and actually think they are doing the right thing by “playing the game.”

Trump doesn’t play the game well, which is why he won in 2016…even against a sculpted and gamed election that was intended to install Hillary.

Is he still fighting the battle from 2016?

God I hope so, because that battle isn’t over.

My sympathy with Conservatives runs out when they continue to do the Democrats jobs for them, criticizing Trump’s “delivery” and his firings. His consistency in this has been legendary. He’s pursued the same ideas and practices from the 80s as he did in the Oval Office and even now.

That’s why I voted for him. I know what I’m getting: leadership, competency, and proven executive know-how on managing people and money.

But “Republicans” and “Conservatives” essentially attack him for his successes as much as Democrats, so it’s unfortunately clear what’s going on.

We Americans, most of us rejecting both Parties and both false-“sides” are up against mostly cattle-minded people who still think elections work and our choices MUST be either Rep or Dem.

That system is dead. It’s compromised. There is no voting in a Republican President unless the Deep State allows it.

I’m disgusted at the cowardice of most Conservatives now. They really, really don’t understand what happened.

It is my opinion that the Deep State will install a Republican in 2024, to quell the “conservatives” and to permanently take out Trump.

Then they will “take him out” permanently, Arkanside-style.

Just my opinion.

Who knows. If someone were truly “Liberal,” they’d question these deaths and not at all support a government getting away with murder.

You are dealing with drug and Human trafficking cartels, humans being the big moneymakers. They dont play.
even against a sculpted and gamed election that was intended to install Hillary.

She was drunk on her ass most of the time avoiding the press. Had them all in a roped off area.
The Media played their part they took daily potshots at Trump, fools, it gave him more free advertising than he could ever pay for.
It was fine Trump calling politicians names, but Ignorant self important Hillary called the American People names. Everyone wanted a Deplorable T-shirt. That was how we Americans rolled. Trump didnt get my primary vote, I sure as hell was not going to vote for someone that just knowing her made you want to commit suicide, or crash your plane in the ocean. I also dont miss any elections.

Zelensky
“The US will have to send their sons and daughters… and they will have to fight, because it’s NATO we’re talking about.”

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Old-fashioned corporate Republicanism won’t do in a world where the left has hijacked big business.

Why I Stood Up to Disney By Ron DeSantis
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-i-stood-up-to-disney-florida-woke-corporatism-seaworld-universal-esg-parents-choice-education-defa2506?mod=opinion_lead_pos5

And who, pray tell will energize the Trump base after the treacherous treatment hr has received and continues to receive from the Corporatist, globalist GOPe?

How will that loss affect the downticket races?

That is what they will use already Fox has learned to not give Trump air time, they were not in attendance in East Palestine when he went there, no longer mention his rallys, those that did have been removed from cable OAN and Newsmax.
The pricks in Wisconsin never quit.

Leftist Group Caught Running Massive Election Bribery Scheme in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race – An Alleged Felony Punishable by Up to 3 Years in Prison

Last edited 1 year ago by kitt

Fox, now run by Ruppert’s eurocentric kid is not what it used to be. Luckily, they’re not the only game in town.

I dont watch Cable I dont really watch TV, operation Mockingbird never stopped. I have seen where weed rewires the brain to kinda block mind control, I cant afford that and coffee too, so one had to go, the Jamaican I enjoy is Blue Mountain blend, I fresh grind every morning.
Its a good thing Greg doesnt post in the morning.
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I read. Watch very little media news. If you drink bad coffee, it impedes your brain from multitasking. I’m a French Arabica guy. Use an Italian coffee maker.

Most coffee grown on the planet is Arabica. I like the caribbean island types they seem to be less acidic, Medium roast. I use a Kitchen-aid coffee maker, the coffee never polluted stronger than a snowflakes feelings(no cream or sugar or flavorings)

Best bang for the buck is “Café El Morro”. Otherwise, “Alto Grande”… It is important what plantation the beans come from.
I due a traditional “Moka” espresso boiler with purified (less oxidation) water.

Last edited 1 year ago by Charlie319

People like me will stop voting, and while establishment GOP and Democrats might think that favors them, it will only serve to highlight that we are no longer a democracy.

Citizens will, in time, act accordingly.

There’s always write-in… For Trump.

With the Deep State and Uniparty fail to understand is the tactics they use now to harvest votes and trick baby boomers and millennials into voting for them won’t work on the zoomers, I’m currently don’t work on generation x.

The latter two generations will be the ones generating and owning the wealth.

You just made me laugh…

Boomers can say what they like, but Boomers vote Democrat for the most part. They want their SS, so it’s not in their interest to NOT vote Democrat.

Zoomers will break down into two groups: super-wealth creators, and digital slaves.

This graph Should be self explanatory from the proportion and flow of voters…

PP_2020.06.02_party-id_2-01-1.png

Yes. Gen X votes Rep in a larger proportion than the Boomers, as was my point.

In a waning proportion… And, numerically, it is smaller than Boomers and Millenials… Because it is split between “Bushites” and “Clintonistas”, depending on when they became politically aware, they are overshadowed by the other groups.

Last edited 1 year ago by Charlie319

but then you like b17 that was used to attack our German brethren at the behest of……Jiu Jitsu bankers.

Way too many Globalists America needs to dump the UN and move the whole lot to Moscow without America to push a round the other nations need to make things better for their own people