Omicron is causing major disruptions in the economy and among the personal lives of Americans but it’s mostly for nothing. You’re 80% less likely to be hospitalized with omicron compared to the delta strain. Masks are generally ineffective against COVID and even less effective against omicron.
Yet what is the death toll from omicron? So far only one person is alleged to have died from omicron. Not true.
Public officials and media reported that a man in Texas became the first American to die from the Omicron variant. I checked with the Harris County Public Health Department. Turns out that’s not true.
Here’s audio of my phone call. pic.twitter.com/fIDZNPzYuj
— Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) December 22, 2021
The media continues to do its best to frighten people baselessly. Newsweek puts out this title:
Michigan Loses Hundreds to COVID in 1 Week as Officials Expect Omicron to Sweep State
They conflate delta and omicron into one boogey virus, intimating that omicron is part of the death toll. Worse, they make some unscientific assertions:
Much remains unknown about the Omicron variant, including whether it causes more or less severe illness than previous strains.
The analysis, published Thursday by the U.K. Health Security Agency, follows studies in Scotland and South Africa that also pointed to a substantially lower risk of hospitalization with Omicron than with earlier established variants, including Delta. The studies published Wednesday suggested Omicron was on average causing milder disease than earlier variants—though that advantage could be outweighed by its more rapid spread.
You’ll need an extra booster shot for that mild virus.
Early studies suggest that the vaccinated will need a booster shot for the best chance at preventing Omicron infection, but that even without the extra dose, vaccination still should offer strong protection against severe illness and death, health officials said.
But omicron isn’t causing widespread severe illness and death. If it were, it’d be front page everywhere, and it’s not. You might choose to get a booster and that’s fine but know this: vaccine effectiveness drops precipitously after 10 weeks:
Booster protection against symptomatic illness caused by the Omicron variant drops by up to 25% within 10 weeks, new real-world data has found – though it is not yet clear if everyone will need further doses in 2022.
There are suggestions that omicron might infect the vaccinated preferentially over the unvaccinated.
Fauci continues with his blather
Whether or not Omicron causes a milder illness than Delta, the variant might cause more harm due to its fast-spread. Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden’s chief medical advisor said in a briefing Wednesday, that even with a possible diminution in severity, “if you have a much larger number of individual cases, the fact that you have so many more cases might actually obviate the effect of it being less severe.”
Say what? Omicron might well crowd out the other strains. I swear sometimes it seems to me that Fauci does not want the pandemic to end. Remember- vaccination is a personal benefit, not a public benefit.
And speaking of the unvaccinated, they are quickly headed toward becoming the Japanese-Americans who were interned during WWII.
CNN medical analyst Dr. Leana Wen said Wednesday on CNN’s “Newsroom” that President Joe Biden should “go further” in placing restrictions on Americans who have not gotten COVID vaccines. Wen said, “I think what we will see with Omicron is a very large number of infections due to Covid-19.”
MSNBC’s “I’m not a virologist but I play one on MSNBC” Sanjay Gupta:
He added, “This is where it’s controversial, but we need to talk about this, the bioethics of it broadly because this is not the last respiratory pandemic we’re going to face, Joy. What do we do with somebody who is unvaccinated who is taking advanced ICU therapies from somebody who is vaccinated in the hospital? How do we rank order that priority? We do it for organs, kidneys, livers, lungs. We say, ‘Did you smoke, did you drink recently?’ If you did, you’re lower on the list, even if you need it. We need to start thinking of that model. Have bioethics around it.”
Think about that- he wants to throw the unvaccinated to the trash heap of death despite both being infected by the same virus and both needing hospital care.
That brings me to the question I have in my mind:
Who is the bigger threat- the unvaccinated person testing negative or the fully vaccinated/boosted person testing positive?
Recall that the booster is a variant, non specific, of the original mRNA. The long term effects or even the short term effects of the original vaccine has not been fully appreciated at an immune level or other biological levels. Now, the universal, hypocritic, elitists’ medical community, allegedly men of science, wants to introduce another mRNA strain. The immune system is complex. Since the genocide government is pushing for a forth, maybe even seventh or eight booster, Christmas is beginning to look a lot like the clotshot. A better question is to quandary the theory that the numerous boosters will eventually destroy the entire immune system, completely. Medical Genocide?
The question is not who is non-vac or vac, but the inherited immune system and status of the host. Dr.Wen is not an infectious doc. but a literary doc. and a bootlicker to dementated joey. Dr. Leana Wen is the president of Planned Parenthood.
Look up wed site: CitizenFreePress.com and look for a very stimulating “its beginning to look a lot like clotshot”. It has a intriguing message.
Dr John, where’s the MAGAnut meltdown over your Mango God’s recent pro-vax push?
Knowing you have nothing, let me respond for the sockpuppets in advance.
“He didn’t say that”.
“What about Benghazi and that dossier?”
“Okay. he said it but didn’t mean it”
“Please tell us about Sleepy Joe’s high gas prices”
“Okay, he meant it but, but, but that’s different”
“Okay, maybe it isn’t different but, but, but we can be pro-covid and still salute Trump in Heil Hitler fashion so go away troll and shove your facts and reality up your ass. We like it here in our rabbit hole”.
Nathan- Trump not only was a better president than God but he still is because Biden was never elected.
“We kicked RJ’s/AJ’s ass again. When will he ever be able to give a coherent rebuttal”.
You’re saying the guy who was responsible for Operation Warp Speed is anti-vaxx? That’s some comedy gold right there.
“You’re saying the guy who was responsible for Operation Warp Speed is anti-vaxx?”
I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. I said Trump just endorsed, on live TV, the vaccines, something you have discouraged at every turn.
But from reading your misleading screeds and howl-at-the-moon batshit crazy conspiracy theories, I get how you can twist anything that doesn’t support your death agenda.
You’re sounding dumber than your flock of ankle biting rodeo clowns.
You’re sounding dumber than your flock of ankle biting rodeo clowns
Wow thats deep.
Trump made a personal decision based on what information he was given.
He also said the madates were something he wouldn’t do. United and Delta Airlines put hundreds of Pilots and thousands Flight crew on unpaid leave cutting off their benefits, for non compliance. 54 billion taken by them in Taxpayer money to retain the employees through the plandemic.
Pilots also signed a non compete cant just go work for other airlines. Now cancelling Christmas flights after they got peoples money for tickets.
I say these companies are in for a class action lawsuit, Biden should be also named in the suit.
Trump cant come to terms he was fooled by one of the most evil lil bastids to walk the planet, IMO Trump is wrong.
The dangerous and deadly experimental gene therapy never met the definition of a vaccine so the definition was problematic and changed. Break through infections are proof it is a terrible expensive failure.
The engineered bio weapon crosses species, cannot be eradicated, it was found in wild deer and zoo cats, as long as there is a warm body it will persist, it is endemic.
Read concerns about possible ‘reformulation’ of jab post DJT, the ‘temperature’ requirement went away?
RJW, did you ever stop to think that people on the right actual think or do you always think that the right must always agree with their leader? Few if any of us voted for Trump because we were in love with everything he said. Most of us supported someone else in the early primaries and settled for President Trump when he showed the most promise of beating Clinton. Many voted for him because he was the lesser of evil. Most of us were very pleasantly surprised at what President Trump accomplished during his presidency while under severe attacks by the left. He made Obama look like an elementary school child.
We didn’t like his blustery way of addressing issues, but we listened to the crux of his comments unlike you and your lefties. We didn’t like his texting, but some was effective. He was very blunt with foreign countries to good effect and most of what has been destroyed by Biden.
You need to look in a mirror to see the person who cannot disagree with their icon and to see the evident signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome common with most of the left lacking the ability to use critical thinking to resolve issues.
Very well said –
Pro-freedom is hard for you to understand.
Did you ever get a job after Amazon fired you, or are you one of the millions of wanna be Americans just in the way of the rest of us?
Go take an Adderall and remember: you won.
Funny how you still sound like the loser.
“I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. I said Trump just endorsed, on live TV, the vaccines, something you have discouraged at every turn.”
Again with the comedy gold. I am fully vaccinated and boosted. I have never discouraged vaccination and I dare you to prove otherwise. I am in favor of vaccination in general but also recognize that there are groups for whom vaccination is not really necessary, such as healthy children. It is the mandate that I oppose. I’ve always said the vulnerable should be encouraged to vaccinate. That’s what the science says.
Well, DJ, you did say here-
that “boosters for all adults is absolutely the worst thing to do” and that “continued commitment to global vaccination efforts steps to ensure we are prepared for all scenarios is absolutely the worst thing to do” and free at-home testing for Americans is absolutely the worst thing to do”.
And why did you say these objectives were “absolutely the worst thing to do”? Because they were Biden objectives.
I have no doubt you’re fully vaxxed and boostered just as every living present president (for those here confused who is the present president) as well has previous presidents, a high 90% of lawmakers, and likely the entire staff at Fox News and other propaganda outlets have.
But some of them, like you, are selling a profoundly different and deadly narrative.
Come to think of it, I don’t recall a single time I’ve read anything from the pro-covid floppingaces crowd that encouraged common sense social distancing in unventilated areas or even washing your hands. I would have once said its seems as if you’d rather see the populace drown in their covid infected lungs rather than miss out on a chance to “Own The Libs”. Today we don’t need the word “seems”.
No surprise you consider conservative Americans “pro covid” simply because they (conservatives) don’t think their fellow Americans are so stupid that they have to be told to follow simply standard hygienics.
Arrogance, and a desire to control others, is a trait of the left.
All of that was vis-à-vis omicron. Period. And you know it.
“Omicron is more transmissible and less virulent. That makes it rather an ideal alternative to vaccination. ”
And it is all passing just as written.
I encourage vaccination against the alpha and delta strains but not against omicron.
Let me educate you further. COVID is not surface transmitted- something I figured out long ago. Masks are not particularly effective. Social distancing is mediocre at best. COVID, thanks to your CCP pals, is now endemic. Biden intentionally stopped the home testing supply chain.
This thing is here to stay. Neither Biden nor Fauci has the least interest in early intervention and have done all that they could to suppress it, offering vaccination as the only arrow in the quiver. Similarly, Twitter and Facebook have also smothered all possible alternatives and it won’t be long before people will have the opportunity to seek legal recourse against them for it.
Be prepared for the snarky garden variety response from greg, “go tell that to all of those who have died from the CCP virus” including those who did not but death certificates were inaccurately recorded.
Also- vaccination does not stop transmission nor it is preventing re-infection.
So DJ, you’re for vaccinations AND against them? How Trumpy of you.
At this point, there’s no need of arguing the science or pros and cons of masks, distancing, etc. You guys are too far down that rabbit hole.
Repeating that vaxs doesn’t stop the transmission meme is a prime example because it ignores the proven fact that the vaccinated are less likely to contract the virus than the unvaccinated which means they’re also less likely to spread the virus to others.
But you have proven multiple times not to be one of honest debate. That just wouldn’t fly here.
And your scolding of Biden for stopping testing pegs the hypocrisy meter.
Your lack of science comprehension is disturbing. The vaccinated can carry the same viral load as the unvaccinated.
The vaccinated are the risk to the unvaccinated, not vice versa.
BGTW, virulence and transmissibility are two different issues, but I hardly expect you to understand that. You’re too busy glossing over your errors.
Biden did refuse to order home testing kits
“The vaccinated are the risk to the unvaccinated, not vice versa.”
That’s a nonsensical statement. It’s a proven fact the vaccinated are less likely to contract the virus which means it’s less likely to spread.
You’re misrepresenting the availability of home testing kits. Biden’s situation and timeline doesn’t compare to Trump’s live on-air admission of ordering the slowing of testing for political gain. And it certainly doesn’t compare to the Trump’s administration’s objective of withholding needed supplies from blue states and cities in order to blame the deaths on Democratic mayors and governors.
You really are an indoctrinated hypocritical piece of work.
“That’s a nonsensical statement. It’s a proven fact the vaccinated are less likely to contract the virus which means it’s less likely to spread.”
Thanks for proving my point. You know nothing Ronald Snow.
CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID
Remember, Doc… AJ is not a doctor, but he plays one in Liberal Alternate Reality. You can’t fault him; his Ministry of Propaganda doesn’t impart actual knowledge.
DJ, your inductive reasoning might fly at an elementary level but isn’t realistic in the adult world.
Your argument- “Who is the bigger threat- the unvaccinated person testing negative or the fully vaccinated/boosted person testing positive?”
Your conclusion- “The vaccinated are the risk to the unvaccinated, not vice versa.”.
Your argument- “vaccination does not stop transmission nor it is preventing re-infection”
Your conclusion- vaccinations do not slow the spread (even though they slow the infections which ultimately slows the spread).
You also failed to address the deference and motives of Trump slowing testing verses Biden’s, as if that argument and your abject hypocrisy didn’t exist, just as you did with your claim of being pro-vax while your writings tell a different story.
That’s the problem with Trumpers and Trumpism, you’re never the same person from one day to the next or even from one comment to the next and your arguments flip back and forth to suit whatever agenda you prefer, as if you can just create whatever you want it to be at a whim and sign it off as factual.
This has nothing to do with motives. It’s about logic and science, for which liberals have little use. For your benefit let ‘s go over this again. IMO vaccination is generally wise but not universally necessary. The elderly, those with comorbidities and the obese should be vaccinated (interleukin 2- cytokine storm- is manufactured in adipose tissue). People at risk should be vaccinated against the alpha and delta strains of COVID, but it is a waste to attempt to stop omicron nor is it helpful. That strain (as I have said repeatedly) is extremely mild. Capitol cops have killed more people than omicron. It’s the strain that could end this if left alone.
Isn’t it interesting how, with all the vaccines at the ready, more have died of COVID under Biden than under Trump?
Yes, and with the admission yesterday that the solution is not at the Federal level ostensibly reveals they are losing the grip they once had to create fear pornography.
Omicron is the characteristic of a once strong virus becoming weaker and less fatal as I understand it to be.
And yes, sadly more people have died at the hands of the Capital Police than of omicron…
What’s more interesting, or perhaps telling, is that most who’ve died under Biden from COVID have been those who refused the vaccines that were, as you admit, at their ready.
Grasp much or do you truely believe the snake oil you sell?
Guess who undermined public confidence in vaccines?
10,857 Fully Vaccinated Americans Have Died Of COVID-19; 30,000 Hospitalized
CDC says 10,483
You’re again cherry picking as you fail to mention how many or what % of deaths or hospitalized were the unvaccinated.
Andrew C. McCarthy ? Seriously?
Which part of “fully vaccinated” did you not understand? And I have some catch up reading for you
John, you insist that the 10k plus fully vaxxed who’ve died from COVID validates your argument but you refuse to entertain the reality that over 160k unvaccinated have died since June AND the fact that those hospitalized and in ICUs were predominantly unvaccinated.
You use a weak hypothetical question to conclude the vaccinated are creating a risk. You ignore the fact that vaccinations reduce the spread by reducing the infections. You make a false claim of being pro-vaccine while your history and present states otherwise. You even concoct out of thin air an asinine claim that more people died from COVID under Biden than Trump when somewhere around 600k were dead when Biden took office. You chastise Biden for his testing response while giving Trump a pass after he openly stated that multiple death in Democratic areas would play well to his re-election campaign.
When you ignore facts and reality, spin and distort to this degree and demonstrate such a partisan bias, it’s hard to give credence to anything you say.
Across the country, people infected and dying are at higher rates in deep red or pro-Trump counties. Why? Because they’ve bought into the cherry picked horse shit disinformation that propagandists such as you have sold them.
“You make a false claim of being pro-vaccine while your history and present states otherwise. ”
I even gave you reference too, Ronald.
“Because they’ve bought into the cherry picked horse shit disinformation that propagandists such as you have sold them.”
Sorry, Ronald. Vaccination hasn’t stopped the spread. Mandates haven’t stopped the spread. That is the science.
And still you’re here.
More Americans Have Died from COVID Under Biden Than Under Trump
Vaccination is a personal benefit, not a societal benefit.
On what do you base assumptions about how rapid, wide, or deadly the spread would have been WITHOUT vaccinations?
From Missouri University: “COVID-19 Vaccine Key to Reaching ‘Herd Immunity”
Experts estimate that herd immunity would require around 80-90% of the population to have COVID-19 immunity, either through prior infection or vaccination. That’s why experts are encouraging the public to get the COVID-19 vaccine.
“We have not achieved any herd immunity through a natural disease process to most major infectious diseases that affect the population to this scale,” said Christelle Ilboudo, MD, infectious disease expert at MU Health Care. “All of the major infections I know of have required vaccination.”
The U.S. COVID mortality rate presently stands at around 1.77 percent. The U.S. population is around 329 million. To attain herd immunity from natural COVID infection in the U.S. could require around 5.8 million deaths. That’s what the simple arithmetic suggests.
Herd immunity doesn’t require deaths, fool. It requires infections. Now, we have a variant that rarely produces severe symptoms, much less death.
However, if there is one thing idiot Biden and his adroit leadership could achieve, it’s about 6 million deaths from a virus that is all but gone.
Have you missed the fact that 818 thousand in the US have died of this infection already?
COVID vaccinations have saved MILLIONS of American lives.
It warrants repeating:
The U.S. COVID mortality rate presently stands at around 1.77 percent. The U.S. population is around 329 million. To attain herd immunity from natural COVID infection in the U.S. could require around 5.8 million deaths.
That’s what a couple of facts, simple arithmetic, and simple logic suggest.
From FOX News, today, December 28 – COVID-19 cases: NYC sees 4-fold increase in children hospitalized
It is impossible to do the math of mortality rate so many cases were never reported, jeeze I caught a cold, they recover never get tested. The false positives false negatives of the useless covid tests. Biden just blew a few more billion on dangerous and unreliable home tests.
The FDA media sheet lists the “solution in the tube contains a hazardous ingredient” which is sodium azide.
“If the solution contacts the skin or eye, flush with plenty of water. If irritation persists, seek medical advice,” the sheet states. It provides “potential risks” warnings of “possible discomfort during sample collection” and “possible incorrect test results.”
One warning NOT given is the potential risk of death. Sodium azide has been known to cause death as detailed in a 1990 government study titled “Death following accidental sodium azide ingestion.”
I hope little ones dont hold of any tests and ingest Faucis poison present to the people.
You seem to have missed the fact that, by your own rules, idiot Biden is responsible for about 500,000 deaths and, though Democrats denounced them, Trump had the vaccines developed.
Dead people don’t contribute to herd immunity. They’re dead.
Idiot Biden is a disastrous failure.
At least Biden didn’t sign a surrender agreement with the Taliban, overturn a nuclear agreement with nothing in mind to put in its place, or tell the country repeatedly that COVID was nothing, or run up debt faster than any previous president while the economy was booming, or turn regulatory agencies over to the special interests being regulated, or try to kill the United States Postal Service, or launch a campaign of lies about a “stolen election” that culminated in a mob violently occupying the nation’s Capitol. Biden’s rhetoric hasn’t led to repeated violent demonstrations in the nation’s major cities, either. Nor has Biden utterly corrupted a political party that he opportunistically attached himself to.
Biden is in office. Trump was removed, and is at the center of multiple state and federal criminal investigations. So, who’s the failure?
Comrade Greggie, shall we discuss Bejing Biden’s approval ratings? I know that you must love to discuss presidential approval ratings because that is all you talked about before January 20, 2021.
Or maybe we could talk about what a disaster the USPS is even though the length of time to deliver First Class is now up to five days longer and the cost of postage for packages is almost crimina?
Since you are fixated on how many people are dying in the U.S., how about discussing the number of unborn children that were murdered last year? Any sorrow on your part for those children?
Or maybe you would like to talk about how illegals, who were allowed to infiltrate all across the nation, especially in Texas and Florida, were allowed to do so even though they tested positive for the Chinese created pandemic, the Kung flu?
Enjoy being on the majority party team for now. It’s about to come to a screeching halt in 2022.
And you have to be one of the most idiotic people who ever walked the face of the earth.
No, he just surrendered. He just ran. He just destroyed a valid agreement that would have gotten us out of Afghanistan and kept the Taliban out of control. He just begged Iran to make whatever deal they want. He just claimed if he was in charge NO ONE would die from COVID, but instead killed 500,000. He just said he would “shut down the virus” but can’t even put in an order for tests. He just destroyed energy independence and then begged Russia and OPEC to help him not look as stupid as he is. He just opened wide out southern border during a pandemic and spread infected illegal immigrants all over the country without testing, vaccinating or tracking them. Idiot Biden and Democrats have added trillions to the debt with nothing but inflation and empty shelves to show for it. He destroyed a growing, booming economy. He and Democrats have cultivated lawlessness, exploded crime and encourage left wing political violent terrorism.
No, idiot Biden didn’t corrupt the Democrat party; it was already thoroughly corrupt.
Oh, and that corrupt liar Harry Reid is dead. Good f**king riddance.
Biden is in office. Trump was removed, and is at the center of multiple state and federal criminal investigations. So, who’s the failure?
Do you mean the really rich guy with a super model wife and no kids on drugs.
People are getting their first winter heating bills, Brandons popularity drop has just begun, we think its a race to the bottom between him and the VP.
Oh, and please check out the new post. You’ll love it
I doubt that you’re latest and greatest kowtowing to the far right propaganda machine would impress me, or, that I’d somehow fall in love with it.
Just curious, since you’re in a responding mode, did Biden legitimately win the election? And about Jan 6. An insurrection? A coup? Antifa? A false flag?
“Just curious, since you’re in a responding mode, did Biden legitimately win the election? And about Jan 6. An insurrection? A coup? Antifa? A false flag?” Why don’t you get into a responding mode and answer the questions posed to you. And stay on the topic at hand; there are other posts where those are discussed.
Deplorable, you a new moderator?
If not, well, even if you are, fuck you!
Ooo… gets asked to answer questions about his numerous lies and goes into crybaby mode.
Gosh, I meet the toughest badasses on the internet, some even as they are being cowards.
Provide the citations to back up your lies, idiot Biden-blower.
“You also failed to address the deference and motives of Trump slowing testing verses Biden’s” Provide proof or, once gain, you are a liar.
“You even concoct out of thin air an asinine claim that more people died from COVID under Biden than Trump when somewhere around 600k were dead when Biden took office. ” You actually think that if you write it, then it appears in print and you can believe it, don’t you? You actually think anyone would believe your crippled credibility? Ha. You are every bit as much an idiot as your worshipful god, idiot Biden.
“You chastise Biden for his testing response while giving Trump a pass after he openly stated that multiple death in Democratic areas would play well to his re-election campaign.” Provide proof or, once gain, you are a liar.
Your cult leader, idiot Biden, said he would “shut down the virus.” He said if he had been in charge, NO ONE would have died of COVID. Well, he hasn’t shut down the virus in any possible measure of the word and he IS in charge (at least the guy with the strings attached) and more have died under his moron regime than under Trump. Thoughts?
“Biden’s situation and timeline doesn’t compare to Trump’s live on-air admission of ordering the slowing of testing for political gain. And it certainly doesn’t compare to the Trump’s administration’s objective of withholding needed supplies from blue states and cities in order to blame the deaths on Democratic mayors and governors.” Why don’t you just go ahead and provide your proof of those accusations.
And THEN you wrote:
“You really are an indoctrinated hypocritical piece of work.” I get it… an attempt at humor!
Just heard from a carddiologist whose main hospital has 48 covid cases at present.
The hospital lists 24 as “vaccinated,” breakthrough cases as well as 24 “non-vaccinated” patients.
All the so-called vaccinated patients had had both original shots plus booster(s).
But this doctor was doing rounds and learned from the unvaccinated patients that they had had the 2 shots but no boosters.
So, literally not one UNvaccinated person is in his hospital with covid at this time!
The fear mongering is leaking into how cases are labeled!
“Come to think of it, I don’t recall a single time I’ve read anything from the pro-covid floppingaces crowd that encouraged common sense social distancing in unventilated areas or even washing your hands.” That’s because you only see and hear what you want to. I myself noted very early on that maintaining extra care in keeping hands clean, not touching everything (before it was known the virus doesn’t live long on surfaces) and common sense hygiene seems to offer a good deal of protection. But, since only revisionist history serves your warped dialogue, you prefer your false blanket condemnations.
Note that Cory “Spartacus” Booker, Big Chief Wahoo Warren and an unnamed White House staffer all came down with COVID. Were they vaccinated? Did they lie about being vaccinated or are the vaccines of a year ago ineffective against the current variants?
“So DJ, you’re for vaccinations AND against them? How Trumpy of you.” No, not correct at all. If you were capable of reading and comprehending, you would fully understand. He, I and every intelligent person (you should try to join us some day) are for effective vaccines, against ineffective vaccines that might do more harm than good. If you don’t understand that, find a 4-year-old somewhere and get them to explain it to you in terms you can understand.
“At this point, there’s no need of arguing the science or pros and cons of masks, distancing, etc. You guys are too far down that rabbit hole.” You realize Fauci was against all that… before he was for it. Right?
By the way, where is your usual “racism” trope? You always find racism in everything… why haven’t you played your race card here, with vaccine mandates? Could it be that it is because the mandates themselves are racist, since one of the demographics that actively refuse vaccines are blacks? Seems the mandates (and the corresponding bans from entering establishments and being fired from jobs) was targeting, by Democrats, of minorities to ruin their lives, segregate them and then make them more dependent upon government and, thus, bring them back to the Democrat voting bloc plantation, the fences of which Trump had effectively torn down with his economic policies. No doubt, this displeases you.
LOL…your comment reveals so much of the leftard mindset. You assume, as do the vast majority of leftards, that those of us who are not enslaved to your Big Brother tyrant mentality suffer from the same moral cowardice, intellectual bankruptcy and absence of critical thinking skills that is the essence of every leftist.
I, and many Trump supporters, admire many things that President Trump accomplished, however that does not mean we are members of a cult dependent on every utterance from the cult leader to give us permission to think and act only as politically allowed. That would make us leftards. I absolutely disagree with his statements about the experimental shots that are being mischaracterized as ‘vaccines’.
If you wish to inject an experimental substance into your body despite the volumes of data showing significant negative side effects for a viral illness with a 99.5% survival rate, that is your choice. You do NOT have the right to force anyone else to accept these experimental shots. The Nuremberg Code, an international agreement made to prevent the medical abuses of the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese who conducted medical experiments on war and political prisoners, is clear on that topic. All you leftards demanding “vaccine” mandates against the unwilling are acting like the good little fascists you are.
If these shots were so efficacious, then why are the majority of hospitalizations and deaths in those who are “fully vaccinated” as reported by Israel, Iceland, and the UK? As we are now being told that the first 2 experimental shots are ineffective against the Omicron variant due to 35-50 different genetic mutations in this variant, what is the scientific explanation that shows how taking boosters of the exact same experimental shot that didn’t work the first 2 times is somehow supposed to work after a 3rd, 4th, ad infinitum number of boosters?
If these experimental shots were so safe, then why are Pfizer, Moderna/AstraZeneca and J&J still under blanket immunity from any and all lawsuits over negative side effects of their shots? Why are NONE of these experimental shots fully authorized by the FDA, but still allowed only under EUA?
I am disgusted by those of my medical colleagues spouting the current tripe that “the unvaccinated should be denied medical care to coerce them to get vaccinated.” Imagine the outcry from the left if any physician publicly called for HIV patients who refused to use condoms and stop abusing IV drugs to be denied medical care. Tyranny precludes ethics, even in the practice of medicine.
Before anyone answers your question, you should answer the long-unanswered question: Why did idiot Biden, whore Kamala and drunk Pelosi denounce the vaccines? Trump has always supported the vaccines. I guess, being a blind racist that only consumes leftist propaganda, you missed it.
But, to the point, few denounce the vaccines now. However, the vaccines are clearly less effective against the variants, so why fire people who won’t take it when the risks of taking it begin to outweigh the risk of not having it? Mandates are utterly stupid, which explains why idiot Biden supports them so enthusiastically (that, and the kick-backs he gets).
Love owning space in your head, boy.
Biden is an Unelected dictator.
Trump was simply a democratic choice.
You’ve ended our Republic to sooth you’re own fragile ego.
Democrats have literally killed hundreds of thousands with vaccine cronyism and treatment suppression.
Your Dementia God has failed.
Even the Left will tire of endless jabs eventually. What then, resurrect that ‘Jim Jones Kool-Aid’ as the “Ultimate Jab” ?
I told you all a long time ago that the kool-aid was coming.
“Whether or not Omicron causes a milder illness than Delta, the variant might cause more harm due to its fast-spread. ” Not if this regime of incompetents react to it properly. Clearly, the vaccines are not as effective against the variants, but the variants grow weaker. As you said in an earlier post, infection with Omicron could be a blessing; a mild case of the virus with immunity as the end result. Of course, there are those who should take special precautions, at least until more is known. But spreading fear of a cold so that everyone that gets it rushes to the emergency room, clogging the medical facilities already weakened by idiot Biden’s mandates is the threat, not the virus. Democrats are the threat, not the virus.
“Think about that- he wants to throw the unvaccinated to the trash heap of death despite both being infected by the same virus and both needing hospital care.” Remember the left, cheering on Obamacare, scoffed at the idea of health care rationing and death panels? Yeah… good times.
Merry Christmas to you and yours. Merry Christmas to Flopping Aces.
12/23/2021 – Trump hails the COVID-19 vaccine as ‘one of the greatest achievements of mankind’ and rejects vaccine skepticism in new interview
Former President Donald Trump hailed the COVID-19 vaccine and pushed back on vaccine skepticism in a new interview with conservative commentator Candace Owens.
Trump called the vaccine “one of the greatest achievements of mankind” and praised his administration’s success in getting the vaccine developed on his watch.
Typically, vaccine development takes years, but the Trump administration pumped billions of dollars into Operation Warp Speed to help produce a vaccine ready at record speed. The Food and Drug Administration authorized the Moderna and BioNTech-Pfizer vaccines for emergency use in December 2020. The Johnson and Johnson vaccine was authorized for emergency use in February under President Joe Biden’s administration.
“All are very, very good. Came up with three of them in less than nine months. It was supposed to take five to 12 years,” Trump told Owens.
Owens has previously elevated vaccine skepticism and has repeatedly said that she has not gotten the vaccine. “It will NEVER enter my arm,” she tweeted in August.
In her interview with Trump, Owens raised doubts about the vaccine, saying the COVID-19 death toll has still increased even as the vaccines have been made available over the past year.
Trump firmly rejected the proposition. “No, the vaccine worked. But some people aren’t taking it. The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don’t take their vaccine.”
Though Trump said he disagrees with vaccine mandates, he encouraged getting the shot.
“If you take the vaccine, you’re protected. Look, the results of the vaccine are very good. And if you do get [COVID-19], it’s a very minor form. People aren’t dying when they take their vaccine,” the former president said.
Covid is simply the cold and flu season with a great marketing campaign.
Herd mentality vs the covid
Colds and flu generally don’t kill 814 thousand people in the USA in 22 months.
They can with the protocols Faux xi has reccomended. Ignore early treatment until you ventilate and make up dance routines.
And neither did the China virus. The 814K is a complete fabrication that includes deaths of people WITH the virus, not necessarily FROM the virus.
The number of excess deaths during the pandemic indicates people are dead BECAUSE of COVID, not simply WITH COVID. It’s illogical to think otherwise.
If ya call every death covid, it do. Samples submitted for testing have had fruit testing positive for the virus.
Neither did covid
Norther does COVID-19.
Greggie, you should really hit the search part before you hit the keyboard. But let’s say you are partially right, the average is 600,000 but in 2020 there were ZERO flu deaths so…..I think, no doubt mistakenly, you are smart enough to do the math.
Influenza typically kills from 12,000 to 52,000 in the US each year. COVID has now killed 815 thousand. COVID deaths clearly are not mislabeled flu fatalities.
Even if you were to subtract the high-end estimate for two full years of the typical flu fatality count, you’d be left with over 700,000 COVID deaths.
Flu deaths HAVE dropped dramatically during the COVID pandemic. This is probably because measures taken to reduce COVID spread are also effective at reducing the spread of influenze, which most often appears to be less easily transmitted.
Disease Burden of Flu: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
So, idiot Biden has failed, miserably. Right?
The suggestion that fewer flu cases somehow discredits the count of COVID deaths failed miserably.
So, idiot Biden has failed, miserably. Right?
Covid is simply the cold and flu season with a great marketing campaign.
Herd mentality vs the covid
And yet nowhere does he say you should/can be forced to take it.
You’re drawing a false equivalency, low-education that you must have.
Vaccine mandates are Unconstitutional. Trump’s promotion of the vaccine is both lawful and exemplary.
That said, you can vote for Trump and stool not get the vaccine. Your choice.
“IF” any of this reporting is correct… we shall see what we shall see:
They can’t charge anyone. Only the ICC’s Office of the Prosecutor can do so. They can only submit a complaint for consideration. ANYONE can submit a complaint.
Here’s a link to the complaint document in question:
A cursory examination suggests the complaint is the work of anti-vaccination crackpots, who don’t actually understand how the ICC works.
Take a look at their list of “perpetrators”, beginning at the bottom of page 1 of the complaint.
Then we have this, from page 37 of the complaint:
151 The request for investigation meets the criteria of the Statute, and will constitute progress in the fight against impunity and ultimately secure the survival of the human race as we know it.
152 And justice will be done.
153 WE WANT TO REPEAT: It is of the utmost urgency that ICC take immediate action, taking all of this into account, to stop the rollout of covid vaccinations, introduction of unlawful vaccination passports and all other types of illegal warfare mentioned herein currently being waged against the people of the United Kingdom by way of an IMMEDIATE court injunction.
Was this complaint actually filed with the ICC, or was it only created and posted online for propaganda purposes? I don’t know, but I can find no trace of any such filing on the ICC’s public records database. DocDroid pretty much lets anyone post anything.
Maybe they should add Donald Trump to their list of Perpetrators, since he has now publicly endorsed and encouraged COVID vaccination.
Damn you just cant wrap your head around agreeing with Trump. I knew this would happen when I informed you of Trump Vaxx stance.
Bwahahahaha, Trump never mandated the clot shot.
Boy this is delicious popcorn.
The point is that the report of genocide charges against Fauci and others is totally BOGUS. It’s a propaganda stunt. It’s a stage prop for false news. It’s being used to discourage people from being vaccinated, when COVID vaccinations are safe and greatly reduce the odds of hospitalization or death.
Actually greggie the village idiot, the countries who are suing finally diverted from the CDC/WHO advice and in Fauci recommended mandates and started treatment and prophylactic treatment shunned by those so called experts. the MRNA is killing people. They have a good potential to win based upon their process.
No countries filed. The applicants are the 7 conspiracy theorists listed on page 3 of the complaint, one being a British funeral director named John O’Looney. (They misspelled his name on the ICC filing.)
O’Looney claims that COVID-19 is a hoax; that early COVID-19 fatalities in nursing homes had actually been methodically euthanized by hospital workers by administering overdoses of Midazolam, an injectable sedative, and then reported as COVID deaths. If you like conspiracy theory, here’s an interview with him:
Funeral Director John O’Looney Reveals Covid-19 SECRET: The Full, Uncensored Interview
Are you joking?
A virus leaked from a CCP lab. They are responsible for millions dead.
Biden and Fauci are behind a clear suppression of treatments that could have saved hundreds of thousands.
Trump got us the vaccine and promotes the vaccine. He’s innocent, and clearly saving people.
That’s why this post triggered you.
“Maybe they should add Donald Trump to their list of Perpetrators, since he has now publicly endorsed and encouraged COVID vaccination.” Developing the vaccines doesn’t have anything to do with funding the creation of the deadly virus, which Fauci was involved in. Then Fauci helped trying to hide the fact that the virus came from a Chinese lab AND he lied to Congress (under oath) about it. So, that dried up, lying little squirt is in it up to his turkey-neck.
President Trump advocating the jab is not new news. We know this about him. You can’t please everyone all the time. He is very proud of Operation Warp speed.
Ah ah ah:
“They can’t charge anyone. They can only submit a complaint for consideration. ANYONE can submit a complaint.”
Anonymous sources with made up charges go nowhere in our country.
If the level of panic drops, people may well realize that this virus is no worse than most of the yearly influenza epidemics. What did happen to those over the last couple of years, anyway?
Could it be that everything was labeled covid, even the gunshot deaths, knifings, auto accidents, cancers, diabetes, and whatever else that routinely claims lives?
The nation of Italy did a recount of their “covid” deaths. The numbers dropped by something like 90%, and even those were found to have multiple co-morbidities.
What’s wrong with this picture?
The problem with “normal causes of death were simply relabeled as COVID” is the number of EXCESS deaths that have been reported over the pandemic period. Hundreds of thousands more have died in the US since the pandemic began than would normally be expected.
Average life expectancy in the US has dropped by 1.8 years since the pandemic began, owing to excess mortality.
Open border Joe killed them.
Drug Overdose Deaths in the U.S. Top 100,000 Annually
Defund the police took quite a few as well
Add in Suicides due to the pandemic no hope fear porn and business collapse.
See where you crow like a rooster is just pathetic?
Stop trying to speak smart.
Call up your Ron/AJ sock puppet and show us how silly you really are.
“Excess mortality” isn’t difficult to understand. It means more people have been dying than usual.
No it doesn’t.
What is “usual?”
Freudian slip, on your part.
“Usual” refers to the statistical norm. A certain percentage of the entire population dies each year. That number fluctuates, but usually falls within a statistically predictable range. If it suddenly jumps up outside of that range, something is going on that ISN’T normal.
Has been a climbing trend since 2009
65 and Older Population Grows Rapidly as Baby Boomers Age
It has more to do with smaller families than with the kung flu.
Dont try to gas light us with shorter life span averages we know genetics and lifestyle have everything to do with that.
Example the life span average in Cook county would be lower because of shootings, more than 1000 young people killed each other in gang violence.
815 thousand COVID deaths is an actual count.
An increasing population of older people normally corresponds with an INCREASING average life expectancy of the entire population. People dying YOUNGER is what brings the average life expectancy down.
815 thousand COVID deaths is an actual count.
Yes we know how horribly Biden has failed with 3 shots at his finger tips the death count is over double than Trumps death count with zero jabs. His hollow vain promise to shut down the virus and not the supply chain and roaring economy with energy independence, the vicious deadly drugs flowing freely across the border. Its all to real that he is a complete failure. His policies have screwed everyone except the multi billionaires who helped him gain office.
Its sad Greg, and all to real.
815,000 people have NOT died of Covid.
About 200,000 HAVE died when they could have been treated.
Biden, Fauci, and the cronies they get paid by are genocidal maniacs putting their profits ahead of American lives.
I wonder how suddenly stopping treating illnesses like cancer and heart disease affects that excess mortality?
“Usual” is not a term I’ve used when teaching stats over the past two decades.
Stop trying speak about analysis.
Anyone who utters the words “excess mortality” as something “more than usual” isn’t cognitively worthy of an analytical discussion.
Someone told you Leftists you were educated, when you are now the modern equivalent of the hill illy mob with no teeth and no brains.
I’m honoring a political Christmas truce. A Merry Christmas to you all. Hopefully we’ll have a much better year in 2022.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
See greggie the village Idiot, the difference between you and most of the rest of us is that you are totally political with no critical thinking while the rest of us use careful thought and critical thought to prepare our posts. You greggie finally admitted that you are totally political and we do appreciate a day without your biased posts.
We’re not at war with you, greg.
We’re at war with who you work for, wittingly or not.
And he doesn’t like Christmas…at all.
That’s an out and out LIE. There has been practically NO increase in general mortality in the USA for the past year. The Pandemic was largely a result of anything and everything under the sun being called “Covid”.
During 2020, the US had around 470 thousand more deaths that would have normally been expected for the year. The confirmed COVID death count for 2020 was around 352 thousand. This suggests US COVID deaths might actually have been UNDER-reported. Nobody has been padding the numbers.
That’s definitely the story the want to seed, but it falls flat with educated analysis.
COVID has always been a lot of smoke and mirrors, with fools like you being paid to spread the smoke.
Notice the CYA words —–SHOULD therefore an opinion which is what has been going on since the beginning. Facts very little opinions far too many!!!!
I think dr. Vin Gupta said the last quote, not Sanjay.
command greggy poop: I see you plagiarized another review and put your name on it. no different that the pedophile.
I suggest you do a Google search for the review that I supposedly plagiarized, assuming you know how to do such a search, and then get back to me when you find it. That should give me a long and happy respite from such accusations.
You’re under the spell of forced vaccine, treatment-witholding psychosis.
Who the hell cares what you think?
People are dead because of the insanity you are spreading.
Love watching the useless Leftist trolls try to double down on their religion after science debunks their idiot claims.
Here’s another question. There are tens of millions of Americans who have never been tested, never masked and uninjected with cyto-toxic spike proteins. Why are they still alive and healthy? You sleep with dogs you get fleas.
Because there is a potential COVID was released to create a false crisis so they could inject us all with CRISPR gene engines for either mass genocide or transhuman purposes
“You’re 80% less likely to be hospitalized with omicron compared to the delta strain.”
That stat is based on So Africa’s numbers.
And, for the demographics in So Africa, where the median age is only 18, it is true.
In the West the median age is much older.
In the US it is 38.
When the hospitialization rates are corrected for the age skew, omicron is worse here, but still not as bad as the original or the delta.
A big part of that is that the original numbers where bumped up by payments to hospitals for calling everything covid.
Later, the delta variant’s numbers came out and whatever was done to bump those numbers up was censored by big pharma, big media and big healthcare.
Censorship of facts is one of the worst aspects of this political takover of how a disease is dealt with.
The absolute worst thing about the treatment of covid once anyone is hospitalized, is that ivermectin/HCQ and other known successful products are withheld unless a court orders them and medical personnel act in time.
Too many people are dying who needn’t die just because they were taken to a hospital.
But the 22 months’ death numbers from covid are comperable to two bad seasons of flu.
(And we had virtually no flu these last two years!)
So, the “excess deaths,” are coming from the vaccinated people dying early.
A majority of people who have had the 2 jabs prefer to never take another one.
The so-called anecdotal stories about early deaths among the vaxxed are behind our new, higher excess deaths, not the covid fluitself.
Friendly reminder: the average covid test does not tell you what strain you have.
Strain-mongering is anti-science.
US Navy warship stranded at Guantanamo Bay because of a COVID outbreak. The crew is fully vaccinated.
Good thing we’re kicking good people out of the military because they don’t want the vaccine, huh? What a filthy, rotten regime.
Yet another independent study confirms over 150K Americans killed by the COVID vaccines
The claim is total bullsh*t. There was no such “independent study”. It’s a crackpot misinterpretation of VAERS data.
Fact Check-VAERS data does not suggest COVID-19 vaccines killed 150,000 people, as analysis claims
How many is too many? 150,000? 18,000?
People die, greg. They die of car accidents and they die of the flu. Just today some people did.
Stop using death as an excuse to install a one-party police state and convert our venerable democracy into a dictatorship.
Trump equals free and fair election.
Biden equals chains.
Nathan, when did you ever read any post by Comrade Greggie, our resident Communist mouthpiece, complaining about how many Americans die of heart disease, or in auto fatalities, or abortions which are deliberate human generated deaths?
You see, for Comrade Greggie, the Kung flu, unleased on the world by Communist China, is simply a way to create the fear porn needed to control the great unwashed masses, much like every Communist movement did.
Don’t think for one minute Comrade Greggie gives a hairy rat’s a$$ that Americans are dying of the Kung flu because he cares about their lives.
“Nathan, when did you ever read any post by Comrade Greggie, our resident Communist mouthpiece, complaining about how many Americans die of heart disease, or in auto fatalities, or abortions which are deliberate human generated deaths?” Or were killed by illegal immigrants? Or killed by ANTIFA? Or killed by BLM? Or killed by criminals in Chicago? Or run over by a career criminal released on $1000 bail by liberal judges and DA’s? Well… never. Because it is the avowed policy of the left to only mention the deaths they can politically exploit.
Indeed. I believe our own government, the compromised part in bed with the globalist deep state, released the virus because Trump was upending their plans.
China is a pawn as much as we are.
It is official the Crazies have taken over and running the asylum.
Put your hand firmly on your lower jaw we dont want to overwhelm hospitals with broken jaws.
BRUTAL: 67% of US Voters Believe the Nation Is Headed in the Wrong Path Under Joe Biden
Americans know when they have been sold a bill of goods from a con man and a snake oil salesman…
Even 54% of the copy machines that voted for idiot Biden think he is doing a bad job.
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That Ronald J. Ward guy is off the chain funny. Maybe he’ll explode. You’d think he’d be happy about conservatives dying but he sounds very frightened.
Meanwhile, another conspiracy becomes reality, as so many have:
It’s my contention that left to his own devices, he’s going to kill someone.
Perhaps we should report him to the FBI…assuming he doesn’t actively work for them?