HR 1 and Why Election Integrity Matters

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If you’ve ever read Lord of the Flies, The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich or 1984, you understand the threat to life and limb that unrestrained power can be.  Lord Acton distilled the danger down to a simple phrase:  “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

Our Founding Fathers knew that, which is why they crafted for us the greatest document ever written by men.  The Constitution they gave us had built into it a variety of checks and balances on government or any branch of government accumulating too much power.  They gave us the Connecticut Compromise, which balanced representation between large and small states, with two Senators elected from each state and Congressmen being elected based on population.  They gave us the Legislature which passes laws and the Executive which implements them.  And most of all, they gave us the Massachusetts Compromise, which created the ultimate check on government power, the Bill of Rights, an explicit articulation of individual rights that could not be infringed upon by government.  Finally, in what was likely the most groundbreaking element of any constitution ever written, the Founding Fathers explicitly limited the powers of the government with the 9th and 10th Amendments, the former stating that the enumeration of certain rights did not preclude the existence of others not addressed, while the latter stated that the federal government had only those powers given and any not given to it were reserved for states or the people.

Extraordinary students of history and men, Madison, Adams, Franklin, et al. understood the nature of man and built a Constitution specifically crafted to counter that nature. It wasn’t a perfect document – and had a tool for addressing imperfections built into it – but it largely worked well for 233 years and allowed the United States to develop into the strongest and most powerful nation in the history of mankind.

Specifically their Constitution worked because it was – by design – insulated from the passions of men.  The staggered six-year terms of the Senate was to balance out the biennial elections in the House – and Senators were appointed by states while Congressmen were elected by the people.  Presidents were elected every four years and Justices were appointed for life.  And the government was explicitly limited to what they could do.

Incredibly, while they knew nothing about cars or televisions or mobile phones or the Internet, the mechanisms they put in place largely survived as the march of time progressed. But for all of their familiarity with the dark sides of man’s nature, even the Founding Fathers, possibly the greatest assembly of men to ever come together in history, couldn’t foresee the darkness that lay ahead with the Democrat party of the 21st century.



Today America sits and watches as Democrats essentially send the Constitution through the shredder.  Emboldened by a pusillanimous Supreme Court, Democrats today – with HR 1 – seek to undermine the very foundation upon which that Constitution is based:  voting integrity by the governed.  They seek to codify arrangements that are by their very nature intended to eviscerate the notion of vote integrity.  Voter ID:  Eliminated.  Mail-in voting:  Mandated.  Maintenance of accurate voter rolls:  Outlawed.  Same day registration:  Required.  Ballot harvesting:  Allowed.  These and much more are to be codified by HR 1, with the goal of giving Democrats end to end control over voting in the United States.  Once in control of voting they will control every branch and every element of the federal government in perpetuity.  And given that they back a regulatory state that never met a freedom it didn’t want to regulate, they will control every aspect of the lives of formerly free Americans.

And that will be the end of America as we know it.  Entrepreneurial innovation?  Gone unless the mission furthers the green or “justice” themes of Democrats.  Educational freedom? Access to and success within will be predicated on a willingness to muzzle any thoughts or words that fall outside whatever is currently deemed as acceptable.  Virtually everything, from sports to medicine to science to literature to media to the Internet to your very job, will become nothing more than vehicles for establishing one’s acquiescence to the left’s diktats, whether as regulated by Democrats or enforced by their fellow travelers seemingly everywhere from academia, the media and increasingly, big business.

For more than two centuries Americans suffered through periods of government overreach, incompetence, malice and outright failure because they understood that they had the ultimate hand in dictating how government is run and that they would have the opportunity to make a change for the better via the voting booth.  Voting and elections were chaotic, exasperating and sometimes frustrating, but we largely accepted them because they were seen as a legitimate reflection of the public’s voice.

With HR 1 the Democrats are disemboweling election integrity, sullying the sanctity of the voting booth and most importantly, undermining Americans’ confidence that they control their own government and by extension, their own destinies.  The Constitution works only because people have confidence in its workings and their role in it.  Sadly, Democrats may find out too late that a citizenry who no longer have confidence that their government answers to them may decide to defy that government and seek to establish their own order.  It would be apropos – albeit sad for the world – if the very schemes Democrats put in place to try and guarantee their grip on power over a citizenry they disdain were the very schemes that caused that same citizenry to overthrow the system Democrats perverted to control them in the first place and replaced it with something one might see on an unnamed island in the South Pacific… My guess is the party worried about mean tweets, racist pancake syrup and offensive children’s books won’t thrive under the new system.

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Instead of using technology to make elections more secure, Democrats use it to make fraud more easily accomplished. Voter ID in Texas, though claimed it would disenfranchise and suppress the vote, allowed if not produced the highest turnouts ever. I’m sure there is a means to make vote by mail secure, but as long as there are those that want it for no other reason than to exploit it for fraud (over 92,000 ballots in Nevada went to addresses that could not be delivered; imagine THOSE in the wrong hands), it should not be universal or common.

I read HR1 in 2019, when Pelosi released it. It is transparent and blatant in its intent to codify fraud and corruption. Should the integrity of vote survive long enough for these corrupt Democrats to lose control of Congress, the Constitution will surely be proven to be a great document, though all we are protected by is the reluctance of some to throw the final shovel of dirt over it.

Being for or against HR1 boils down to simple issue. Either you support obstacles to disenfranchise voters to give one party a political advantage or you don’t.

@Ronald J. Ward:

The greatest disenfranchisement of a voter’s cast ballot is to have it voided out by someone who casts an illegal ballot. This is exactly what the (Socialist) Democratic Party intends to do. HR1 even has a provision that if an illegal alien casts a ballot they cannot be adjudicated for a crime in a court of law (i.e no legal penalties levied) (Section 1015).

Consequently, if you cast your ballot for Candidate A and an illegal casts their ballot for Candidate B, that illegal has disenfranchised your vote.

But it gets worse; those who have been convicted of voter/election fraud (a felony) will still be able to register to vote, and cast a ballot, along with the Boston bombers who are naturalized citizens.

That’s just the tip of the HR1 iceberg. It is a clear usurping of U.S. Constitution. But I’m sure you are in agreement with that action.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Either you support obstacles to disenfranchise voters to give one party a political advantage or you don’t.

Anyone who is against voter ID is the actual racist, and anyone who balks at the idea that votes and voters must be verified is simply pro-cheating.

Dismantling obstacles is good. Paying poor people for their vote is wrong.

Democrats cheat. They started with Acorn in 2008, and rigged their own primary in 2016 for Clinton.

Spending millions to un-employed white kids to trade beers for votes via Zuckerberg money is not democracy.

It’s tyranny.

Every LEGAL vote matters. If you can’t handle that, then get the f*ck out of my country.

@retire05:

It is a clear usurping of U.S. Constitution.

That is the Democrat’s intent, and always has been.

A one-party police state with a false “majority” that only exists on Saturday Night Live.

I support kicking the Democrats out of the Union and restoring our rather successful Constitutional Republic, free of Chinese-paid and backed politicians.

So our Leftist friends understand how completely Democrats have thickened the chains on black folk, while always pretending to do the opposite, I give you Malcolm X and the reason Leftists are afraid of him….and why they made sure he was never known for his best work: critiques of Leftwing racism and exploitation of blacks.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS USUALLY, IF YOU STUDY THE STRUCTURE OF THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, ECONOMICALLY, POLITICALLY, CIVICALLY, PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND OTHERWISE, IT’S CONTROL BY THE WHITE LIBERAL WHO USUALLY POSTS AS THE FRIENDS OF THE NEGRO WHO ACTUALLY DIFFERS FROM THE WHITE CONSERVATIVE IN THE SAME WAY THE FOX DIFFERS FROM THE WOLF. THE APPETITE IS THE SAME, THE MOTIVES ARE THE SAME, IT’S ONLY THEIR MANNERISMS AND METHODS DIFFER.

…WORKING FOR THE WHITE POLITICAL MACHINES WHO BENEFIT BY THE VOTING EFFORTS OF NEGROS…

IF THE WHITE PEOPLE REALLY PASSED MEANINGFUL LAWS, IT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY TO PASS ANY MORE LAWS. THERE ARE ALREADY ENOUGH LAWS ON THE LAW BOOKS TO PROTECT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. YOU ONLY NEED ADDITIONAL LAWS WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS NOT REGARDED AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. BUT WHITES ARE SO HIPPO CRITICAL, THEY DON’T WANT TO ADMIT THAT THIS BLACK MAN IS NOT A CITIZEN, SO THEY CLASSIFY HIM AS A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN TO GET AROUND MAKING HIM A REAL CITIZEN. IF HE WAS A REAL CITIZEN, YOU WILL NEED NO MORE LAWS OR CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION. WHEN YOU HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS, YOU HAVE CITIZENSHIP. IT’S AUTOMATIC. WHITE PEOPLE DON’T NEED LAWS TO PROTECT THEIR CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE THEY ARE CITIZENS, BUT THEY WANT — THEY DON’T WANT TO TELL US WE’RE NOT CITIZENS, AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY DON’T WANT TO PASS LAWS THAT ARE MEANINGFUL ENOUGH TO PROTECT US AS IF WE WERE CITIZENS,

@Ronald J. Ward: As usual, you are completely wrong. The only disenfranchising being done is lawful votes being disenfranchised with Democrat fraud. HR1 intends to normalize fraud, which you apparently approve of.

White to Vote

https://popular.info/p/the-white-to-vote

Georgia has allowed no-excuse absentee voting for all elections since 2005. It was part of a voting bill passed that year by the Republican-controlled legislature and signed into law by the Republican Governor, Sonny Perdue.

The 2005 bill was best known for requiring a photo ID to vote in Georgia. But Republicans decided that no ID should be required to vote absentee. At the time, Georgia Republicans argued that absentee voting was more secure than in-person voting:

“For those willing to commit fraud, there is a paper trail with absentee ballots which does not exist with electronic voting,” argued [Republican election official J. Randolph] Evans. “In addition to the request for the absentee ballot, as well as the other records maintained, the ballot itself serves as a paper record. If challenged, and found to be fraudulent, the ballot can itself be removed before being cast.”

Because of that, “the absentee ballot is safer and more secure than a paperless electronic voting system where there is no effective remedy once a vote has been cast.”

Here is how The Atlanta Journal-Constitution covered the signing of the law by Perdue on April 23, 2005:

Gov. Sonny Perdue signed into law a bill which wipes out several currently accepted forms of voter identification so that only photo IDs can be used…

Critics in the Legislature said Georgia’s law would be one of the most restrictive in the nation.

The new Georgia law also allows people to vote absentee without an excuse, and for a longer period. Those votes by mail would not require a picture ID.

Political observers say Republicans tend to benefit the most from absentee balloting.

For 15 years, those political observers were right. Republicans and white voters took advantage of no-excuse absentee voting more than Democrats and voters of color.

Then, in the 2020 presidential election, things changed. For the first time, Black voters took advantage of absentee voting more frequently than white voters. The shift coincided with an upset victory in the state by Joe Biden.

Although vote-by-mail usage exploded for all racial groups, it increased less for white voters than for others. Although white voters still made up a majority of mail voters, their share of the vote-by-mail electorate dropped from 67 percent in 2016 to 54 percent in 2020; the Black share, meanwhile, surged from 23 percent to 31 percent…nearly 30 percent of Black voters cast their ballot by mail in 2020, but just 24 percent of white voters did so.

On Monday, the Georgia Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 29-20 to end no-excuse absentee voting on a party-line vote.

Under the bill, most Georgians would be allowed to vote absentee only if they are in the military, away from their precinct, observing a religious holiday, caring for someone with a disability, or required to work “for the protection of the health, life, or safety of the public during the entire time the polls are open.” The bill also adds an ID requirement for absentee ballots.

Republicans now argue that absentee voting must be restricted because it is inherently less secure. “As we get further away from voting in person, we get further away from the highest level of security in elections,” said Jake Evans, chair of the Georgia chapter of the Republican National Lawyers Association.

The bill passed by the Georgia Senate, however, carves out an exception for voters that are 65 or older. They will be able to continue voting by absentee without an excuse. Why? As a new report from the Brennan Center reveals, in 2020, “fewer than half of vote-by-mail participants under 65 years old were white.” But a more than 60 percent of absentee voters over 65 were white. Therefore, “legislation restricting mail voting for younger voters disproportionately benefits white voters.”

Thirteen of the Georgia Senators who voted for the bill on Monday also signed onto a brief urging the United States Supreme Court to invalidate millions of votes in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. It was part of a last-ditch effort to install Trump for a second term based on his false claims of voter fraud.

“The purpose of 241 and all of the vote-limiting bills we have before us is to validate a lie. It is to prevent massive voter turnout from happening again, especially in minority communities,” State Senator Nikki Merritt (D) said on Monday.

Many of the other voting restrictions being proposed in the Georgia legislature target black voters. A bill that recently passed the Georgia House, for example, would limit early voting on Sundays. “Black voters (who make up 30 percent of the registered electorate) accounted for 36.5 percent of Sunday voters, but just 26.8 percent of early in-person voters on other days,” the Brennan Center notes.

Signs of life from the business community?

Last week, Popular Information reported on the corporate donors — including Coca-Cola, Delta, Home Depot, and UPS — behind the Georgia legislators pushing major voter suppression bills in the House and Senate. Although these corporations claim to support voting rights, none have publicly opposed the bills or pledged to divest from their sponsors. They have ignored a campaign from a coalition of civil rights groups urging them to take action.

There are new indications, however, that change might be on the way.

In a statement to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Coca-Cola said it supported efforts by the “Georgia Chamber of Commerce to help facilitate a balanced approach to the elections bills that have been introduced in the Georgia Legislature this session.” UPS made a similar statement.

The Georgia Chamber of Commerce is part of a group organized by Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) called the Bipartisan Task Force for Safe, Secure, and Accessible Elections. It is a diverse group, which also includes the ACLU and the Georgia NAACP.

On Monday, the task force released a statement criticizing the Georgia legislature’s “legislative process” on bills to restrict voting:

As we monitor the progress of elections-related legislation in the Georgia General Assembly, we are concerned that the legislative process is proceeding at a pace that does not allow full examination of all the factors that must be considered. There is a need for responsible elections policymaking to be deliberate and evidence-based, not rushed. When we see proposals that properly balance voter access with integrity, we will voice support.

The last line is key. The task force is saying that it will endorse legislation that it supports. Since it has not endorsed any bill, this implies that, at present, task force opposes all voting legislation in the legislature.

This is a long way from Coca-Cola or other major corporations speaking out against voter suppression legislation, but it is a sign of progress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/11/republicans-have-stopped-pretending-they-arent-trying-suppress-democratic-votes/

Every once in a while, a little-known local or state politician can become nationally famous for an outbreak of alarming honesty. I give you Arizona State Representative John Kavanagh, one of the chief architects of a wave of laws Republicans are pushing in the state to make it harder to vote:

“There’s a fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans,” Kavanagh said. “Democrats value as many people as possible voting, and they’re willing to risk fraud. Republicans are more concerned about fraud, so we don’t mind putting security measures in that won’t let everybody vote — but everybody shouldn’t be voting.”

In other words, Republicans value fewer people voting (though he didn’t put it quite that way). But it gets worse:

“Not everybody wants to vote, and if somebody is uninterested in voting, that probably means that they’re totally uninformed on the issues,” Kavanagh said. “Quantity is important, but we have to look at the quality of votes, as well.”

How do you know if the votes in your state are of sufficient “quality”? It’s simple: Did President Biden win your state in 2020? If the answer is yes, you clearly have a quality control problem.
That’s why Arizona and Georgia — the two states where Republicans control the legislature and the governor’s mansion, but where Biden won in November — are leading the way on new voter suppression measures.

Can they be stopped? The answer is a qualified yes. Though the conservatives on the Supreme Court have seldom met a voter suppression law they wouldn’t rubber-stamp, Democrats have a powerful weapon in their arsenal: Backlash.

It has happened before, and it can happen again. When Republicans attempt to keep people likely to vote Democratic from the polls — usually Black people, but also young people, Latino people, and Native people — those voters can become so angry that they turn out to vote in greater numbers. Once their franchise is threatened, they get more motivated to use it, even if it means overcoming the hurdles that are placed in front of them.
That’s the outcome Republicans are risking now. Their voter suppression ideas are so blatantly partisan and so indefensible that they garner more media attention, which could prove a potent organizing tool for Democrats.

Consider Kavanagh, whose quote about “the quality of votes” will no doubt be repeated by Arizona Democrats a zillion times. He’s not the first Republican to say the quiet part loud: During the 2012 presidential race, a Republican official in Pennsylvania bragged that voter ID “is going to allow” the GOP “to win the state of Pennsylvania.”

It’s not that they’re revealing something nobody knew, but symbolic moments like those crystallize the issue and, if enough attention is drawn to them, drive a salutary backlash.

It’s also important to remember that in many cases Republicans will try to suppress Democratic votes but wind up making it just as hard for their own supporters to cast ballots. That’s likely the case with new restrictions on mail voting that are central to new laws Republicans are proposing.

Indeed, in the 2020 presidential race, it turned out that even though many more Democrats than Republicans voted by mail, that didn’t help Biden win — evidence suggests that people who were going to vote anyway just switched the method they used. So when Republicans put a whole bunch of new restrictions on mail voting, it won’t actually help them.

Something similar is happening with drop boxes, which Florida Republicans are moving to ban and those in other states want to restrict. The idea that fraud won’t occur if you drop your ballot in a mailbox but will occur if you put it in a special ballot drop box located outside an election board office is positively idiotic. And banning them will make things less convenient for everyone, not just Democrats.

Which means that in the end, Republicans get zero value from banning drop boxes — but it does provide a visible symbol of their determination to suppress votes. It’s absurd, shameless, and noticeable, which means it’s likely to attract media coverage and become another high-profile example of Republican voter suppression.

There are other measures they’re pushing that are more directly targeted right at Black voters, and for which they can’t begin to come up with a rationale. In Georgia, for instance, they want to limit or eliminate early voting on Sundays, because that’s when Black churches mount “Souls to the Polls” drives. They also want to make it illegal to give food or water to people waiting on line to vote — knowing full well that voting lines tend to be longer in minority neighborhoods.

Measures like those are so flagrant that they might as well say that only voters of low “quality” are voting on Sunday or have to wait on line. It’s obvious to everyone what they’re doing, and Democrats should be able to use it to get voters motivated to turn out, no matter how difficult their state’s Republicans make it.
And then maybe those Democrats can win the power that will allow them to make it easier for everyone, no matter what party they support, to vote.

@Nathan Blue:

If there really was “systemic” racism in America, there would be no Oprah, no Denzel Washington, no Thomas Sowell and there damn sure would not be the State Chair of the largest Republican Party in the U.S., Allen West. You see, “systemic” racist doesn’t end with the remote control or the box office or the book store. And of course, we are never told what “system” is so racist. The late and great Walter Williams wrote a lot about racism. Of course, he was dismissed by the left as an “Uncle Tom.”

Ironically, Pew Research did a poll a some years ago asking blacks who were more racist, blacks or whites. Blacks responded that they were more racist than whites. Of course, it was one of those polls totally ignored by the left wing media.

From the days of FDR, black Americans have been sold a bill of goods how the Republican Party is trying to hold them down and Democrats now claim credit for the Civil Rights laws. But here is what is never spoken of; those teachers, who have obtained their Education degrees based on preferential treatment by universities due to their dark skin tone, wind up teaching in black neighborhoods. Black children are then cheated out of a quality education. That is the main reason informed black parents support charter schools or having tax dollars follow the child, not the school district. And remember, it was a black President that shut down charter schools in D.C.

And how are Republicans trying to keep minorities from the polls?

“Once their franchise is threatened, they get more motivated to use it, even if it means overcoming the hurdles that are placed in front of them.”

What “hurdles” would those be?

@Ronald J. Ward: Democrats, Jim Crow. Nuff said.

@retire05:

And how are Republicans trying to keep minorities from the polls?

Perhaps making it illegal for their churches to transport them to the polls after Sunday mass might be a start.

Aside from the many other blaring examples, your question is like someone asking why they can’t see the light of day with their head shoved up their ass.

You will never be able to see or hear an example when you refuse to see or hear.

@Ronald J. Ward: Which minority participates in Mass?

By Steve Benen

The New York Times’ David Leonhardt summarized the landscape nicely: “Republican legislators in dozens of states are trying to make voting more difficult, mostly because they believe that lower voter turnout helps their party win elections. (They say it’s to stop voter fraud, but widespread fraud doesn’t exist.) The Supreme Court, with six Republican appointees among the nine justices, has generally allowed those restrictions to stand.”

His piece quoted a recent assessment from University of Florida political scientist Michael McDonald, who wrote, “I don’t say this lightly. We are witnessing the greatest roll back of voting rights in this country since the Jim Crow era.”

Much of the recent attention has focused on Georgia, and for good reason: the Republican-led state government responded to some unexpected defeats in last year’s election cycle by rushing to pass indefensible new voting restrictions — scaling back voting-access laws that Georgia Republicans endorsed just a few years ago.

But as we were reminded yesterday, the problem is not limited to Georgia.

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds on Monday signed into law a Republican-backed bill that makes it harder to vote early, potentially eroding a key aspect of Democratic campaigns. Republicans in the House and Senate quickly approved the voting changes over the opposition of all Democratic legislators. Republicans said the new rules were needed to guard against voting fraud, though they noted Iowa has no history of election irregularities and that November’s election saw record turnout with no hint of problems in the state.

This is a classic example of Republicans rushing to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. The integrity of Iowa’s elections is not in doubt, and was never called into question. Indeed, GOP candidates fared quite well in the Hawkeye State in 2020: Donald Trump carried the state easily; Sen. Joni Ernst (R) won re-election by a larger-than-expected margin; and Republicans even flipped two of the state’s four U.S. House seats.

There wasn’t even a hint of fraud in Iowa. The state’s electoral system is sound; it worked just fine; and far-right candidates benefited.

But Iowa Republicans decided success wasn’t good enough. Their new law cuts the state’s early voting period for no reason, and lowers the amount of time polls will be open on Election Day. As the Des Moines Register explained:

The law cuts Iowa’s early voting period from 29 days to 20. Polls will now close at 8 p.m. for state and federal elections instead of 9 p.m. It significantly tightens the rules for when absentee ballots must be received by county auditors in order to be counted. Ballots must now arrive by the time polls close in order to be counted. Previously, ballots placed in the mail the day before Election Day could be counted as long as they arrived by noon the following Monday.

State Rep. Bobby Kaufmann (R-Iowa), who helped sponsor the bill, recently argued, “The ultimate voter suppression is a very large swath of the electorate not having faith in our election systems, and for whatever reason, political or not, there are thousands upon thousands of Iowans that do not have faith in our election systems.”

I wish this made more sense. What the GOP legislator is arguing in effect is that “thousands upon thousands of Iowans” believed lies, so it falls to state government, not to tell people the truth, but rather to make it harder for Iowans to participate in their own democracy.

Reality be damned, Americans should expect considerably more efforts along these lines. Fox News reported yesterday that Heritage Action for America, an activist group tied to the Heritage Foundation think tank, is moving forward with plans “to spend at least $10 million on efforts to tighten election security laws in eight key swing states. ”

The report added that Heritage Action is specifically targeting Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, Texas, and Wisconsin.

@Deplorable Me:

@Ronald J. Ward: Which minority participates in Mass?

What’s sad is that not a single lapdog Trump cultist on this hate site will see or hear anything derogative or disavow your statement.

Not a damn one.

@Ronald J. Ward: Even sadder is that you are too cowardly to admit you are a liar and too corrupt to stop lying.

Why is it always Democrats trying to cheat in elections?

@Ronald J. Ward:

What’s sad is that not a single lapdog Trump cultist on this hate site will see or hear anything derogative or disavow your statement.

You’re projecting. When pressed, you simply cannot plead your case with anything approaching rationality.

Even Canada is appalled at our lack of voter ID laws, as is the rest of the world.

It is proper to have a level of standards for voting:

1. You have to prove you’re allowed to vote in the US.
2. You have to prove you are who you say you are.
3. You have to make the effort to cast your vote.

Every American CAN vote (assuming they meet the legal requirements). Not every American SHOULD vote, and that’s where the corrupt Democrats spring their trap. Poor people will vote for beers, angry spinsters will vote for whoever Joy Behar tells them too, and unemployed white kids will vote for whoever Colbert supports.

That’s tyranny.

If it takes Democrat White Supremacists like Mark Zuckerberg to come to your house and walk you to the booth, then your vote shouldn’t count.

If you can’t vote, and you can’t follow the rules, I don’t care if you are poor or “disenfranchised”

You’re vote doesn’t count. Otherwise, it’s just rich white Democrats enslaving blacks and others for their vote.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Perhaps making it illegal for their churches to transport them to the polls after Sunday mass might be a start.

Good luck with making it illegal, for any entity, to transport voters to the polls. I, as a Republican, often give rides to the polls for people who have no transportation. Do I know their political bent? Nope. I have no doubt that some of them are Democrats.

Aside from the many other blaring examples, your question is like someone asking why they can’t see the light of day with their head shoved up their ass.

OK, what are the other “blaring examples” you are referencing to? State them. Your vague responses show that you really have no answers except for the ones you pull out of your rectal orifice.

And color me not surprised that you would reprint comments from another left leaning source. Are you that eager to have Socialism implemented in the U.S.?

Recently, from Sarah Silverman:

“It’s the absolutist-ness (sic) of the party I am in that is such a turnoff to me. It’s so f***ing elitist, you know? For something called ‘progressive,’ it allows for zero progress. It’s all or nothing, no steps toward, all or f***ing nothing. Again, righteousness porn… I don’t want to be associated with any party anymore. It just comes with too much baggage. Every party. It comes with so much f***ing baggage that no ideas can be taken at face value. And without ideas, what are we? Without a common truth, how can we talk about it?”

No sh*t. I came to this conclusion 20 years ago, which is why I continue to preach to the AJ/Ron’s of the world of how ignorant and racist their blind support for an authoritarian party is.

In fighting the Fundie Right, the Left became the Fundie Left, and much worse than anything the Right ever was.

@Nathan Blue:

1. You have to prove you’re allowed to vote in the US.
2. You have to prove you are who you say you are.
3. You have to make the effort to cast your vote.

1. You are not allowed to vote if brought by your church bus
2. You are not allowed water in the intentional long lines you stand in to vote.
3. You are not allowed to vote weekends or other methods previously allowed because they were found to be an attractive feature to bring more minority voters to the polls.

Proof of identity or eligibility is no longer an issue of laws being implemented by Republicans to disenfranchise voters. That was like last decade NathanAnon.

@Ronald J. Ward:

1. You are not allowed to vote if brought by your church bus

How would you prevent a church bus from taking people to the polls? Quote me the proposed law.

2. You are not allowed water in the intentional long lines you stand in to vote.

Water in poll lines? You mean like bottle of water, jugs of water or dragging a hose along with you? Quote me the proposed law.

3. You are not allowed to vote weekends or other methods previously allowed because they were found to be an attractive feature to bring more minority voters to the polls.

Really? So no Saturday or Sunday voting? Quote me the proposed law.

This is all left wing bullshit written by a left wing hack who provides no links or references for the claims made.

In 2016, the Democrats in my county petitioned to have the polls open on a Sunday. So the Elections Administration not only opened the poll on Sunday, but also hired extra election clerks to make voting faster due to the claim that the Souls to The Polls from county black churches would provide a hefty turnout. And it was, if you consider FOUR voters a hefty turnout. And it turned out those four voters were three whites and one Hispanic. Not one black voter showed up.

If minority neighborhoods are having trouble with unreasonably long lines all during both early voting but election day, perhaps the solution would be more polling locations. Since there are federal regulations as to the number of voters a poll should handle, why isn’t that done? But then, there is the problem in minority communities of minorities not wanting to work the polls for the money that is paid to them. It is the same problem with finding minorities who want to work for the fire departments of America.

But it’s much easier to scream “RACISM”, isn’t it? Because if the minorities communities ever realize that “RACISM” is the only thing Democrats have to offer them, the Democrat Party is sunk.

@Ronald J. Ward: Why are you so enthusiastic about election fraud?

@Ronald J. Ward: Well, Dictator Biden did say “poor folk are as smart as white folk”.

Guess they can get an ID, register, and legally vote like the rest of us.

Only tyrants us double standards to organized the rabble into a “voting bloc” when they can’t win on their merits alone.

1. You are not allowed to vote if brought by your church bus
2. You are not allowed water in the intentional long lines you stand in to vote.
3. You are not allowed to vote weekends or other methods previously allowed because they were found to be an attractive feature to bring more minority voters to the polls.

Everyone of those points are so rare or simply exggerated to the point of being non-existent, and irrelevant.

attractive feature to bring more minority voters to the polls

At least you can admit to using black people to vote against their own interests.

Trump won over 15% of the Black vote. The Democrat con is slipping, and they are running scared.

Meanwhile, another Leftwing Insurrection is underway in Minneapolis, hurting and killing black people.

Malcolm X was right.

The underlying truth: The greater the number of Americans that vote, the less likely it becomes that republicans will win elections.

@NathanAnon:

Everyone of those points are so rare or simply exggerated to the point of being non-existent, and irrelevant.

Care to explain why so many Republican controlled states are jumping to implement them despite the overwhelming backlash?

@Ronald J. Ward:

Care to explain why so many Republican controlled states are jumping to implement them despite the overwhelming backlash?

Care to prove that comment with links to the actual proposed legislation from those states?

@Ronald J. Ward: Can you tell me which states have made arriving by bus to the polls illegal? I think you are a liar, there were rumors that busses from Chicago would come and make several stops in SE Wisconsin, they stopped after a 10year battle for voter ID.

@retire05:

You’re actually trying to imply that the restrictions imposed by GA and in progress in other R states don’t exist unless I give you a link?

That is your argument? Even NathanAnon acknowledges them but fabricates the reasoning of the proposed restrictions as being irrelevant.

I again refer back to the fact that you refuse to see what is before your very eyes. You again ask me to show you something that you well know you will refuse to see.

@kitt:

I was referring to what’s known as “Souls to the Polls”’ a church initiative in mainly black communities that provides buses to take mainly the elderly and poor to the polls to vote after church services.

Republican lawmakers of those states seem to have issues with that, along with them drinking a bottle of water while standing in long lines.

If there’s a fear, as you imply, of someone from Chicago high jacking these buses and pulling off some wild scheme, maybe these lawmakers wouldn’t mind explaining. So far, their reasoning has been as incoherent as a gaggle of FloppingAces sock puppets.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Republican lawmakers of those states seem to have issues with that, along with them drinking a bottle of water while standing in long lines.

Since that is your claim, you need to back it up with proof, not some article from a far left wing source.

And are you going to give us the links to proposed legislation you claim is being done?

@Greg:

The underlying truth: The greater the number of Americans that vote, the less likely it becomes that republicans will win elections.

Really. Well, a record number (of living, eligible citizens) voted in 2020 and Trump won, in addition to taking House seats away from Democrats. Only through fraud did the Democrats take the election.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Care to explain why so many Republican controlled states are jumping to implement them despite the overwhelming backlash?

Care to show that they actually are? You are a liar; you have no credibility. You must PROVE your points.

@Greg:

The underlying truth: The greater the number of Americans that vote, the less likely it becomes that republicans will win elections.

The underlying myth, yes, that Democrats have tried valiantly to impose by falsifying ballots and outright buying them from poor blacks.

A one-party police state is not something you want, little guy.

Care to explain why so many Republican controlled states are jumping to implement them despite the overwhelming backlash?

Care to give any proof? You know Chris Cuomo is just selling advertising, right? It’s not news.

@NathanAnon

I’d say “NathAnon” sounds better.

If you are Leftist and you can’t win an argument, just bring up the Leftwing Conspiracy that is “Q”.

Good dog.

The hysterical, and now decades-old hoax of engineering a majority voting bloc as “voting rights” has sunk deep into the minds of women and weak men.

Even your own people are starting to reject the Left, because once these despots take that “majority” vote which they don’t have, you’ll never see them in the slums again.

Malcolm X was right: Leftists are slave-owners, Jim Crow advocates, and now one-party police state advocates with no issues destroying black communities to get what they want.

@retire05:

Since that is your claim, you need to back it up with proof, not some article from a far left wing source.

And are you going to give us the links to proposed legislation you claim is being done?

Even with all the election fraud, no Leftist can ever address the fact that Trump got a historical 15% of the black vote (probably higher).

They’re sham of engineering poverty and using poor people as voting cattle is slipping.

@retire05:

Since that is your claim, you need to back it up with proof, not some article from a far left wing source.

And are you going to give us the links to proposed legislation you claim is being done?

In the comical world of humor and make believe, Charlie Brown will forever fall for Lucy’s invitation to punt. As I’ve previously pointed out, you are a product of Trumpworld whereas I’m over here in the real world. Accordingly, there’s no reason to believe that you would believe any proof, links, or even recordings of actual statements if the don’t compliment your agenda. You and your protégés have allowed yourselves to be conditioned to reject unwanted truths and realities, regardless of the validity of it. We’ve seen this movie too many times.

Why do you continue to demand to see what we all know you will close your eyes to upon presentation?

@Ronald J. Ward:

If there’s a fear, as you imply, of someone from Chicago high jacking these buses and pulling off some wild scheme, maybe these lawmakers wouldn’t mind explaining. So far, their reasoning has been as incoherent as a gaggle of FloppingAces sock puppets.

Is that what I posted fool?
I know counties next to the border of Il turned red after voter ID was passed. Il is known for corruption and fraud. More than a few Mayors and Governors graduated to prison when their usefulness gone.
You have not posted the state that has made bussing to the polls illegal lying skunk.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Accordingly, there’s no reason to believe that you would believe any proof, links, or even recordings of actual statements if the don’t compliment your agenda.

You’ll never know until you try, scooter. So, I guess you’ll never know.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Why use so many words just to prove you ain’t got shit?

@retire05:

Why do you continue to demand to see what we all know you will close your eyes to upon presentation?

Require absentee voters to submit their driver’s license number, state ID number or a copy of their photo ID with their ballot.
Shorten the window in which voters can request absentee ballots; they would have to do so between 11 weeks before the election and two Fridays before the election. (Currently Georgians can request absentee ballots between 180 days before the election and one Friday before the election.)
Prevent election officials from mailing absentee ballots until four weeks before the election.
Bar election officials from mailing unsolicited absentee-ballot applications to voters.
Limit the early-voting period to business hours during the three weeks preceding the election, plus the second Saturday before the election; early voting would no longer be allowed any other day, including Sundays.
Clarify that no one can give food or water to people standing in line to vote. (Separately, Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has argued that this is already against the law, and he has announced his intention to start enforcing it more.)
Allow ballot drop boxes at early-voting sites only, and only when those sites are open.
Limit the use of mobile voting facilities, such as buses, to emergencies.
Throw out provisional ballots cast in the wrong precinct.
Prohibit counties from accepting outside funding for elections.

So again, other than intentionally discouraging voting, how do these obstacles deter voting fraud?

@Ronald J. Ward: No, what it does is assure only those eligible to vote are voting and reduce the amount of fraud (of the sort that was used in enormous quantities in 2020 by Democrats) that disenfranchise the legitimate voter.

The epidemic excuse is over. People can to to the polls, verify their identity and eligibility and vote in person. Absentee voting is for those who CANNOT vote in person, not for lazy-ass liberals or an open ticket to steal elections.

All you and other Democrats care about is securing power through fraud. Just as in 2020. Fraud, stealing, lying and corruption. That’s in your DNA.

@Ronald J. Ward: A description that never mentions busing.

Official Summary: A BILL to be entitled an Act to comprehensively revise elections and voting; to amend Chapter 2 of Title 21 of the O.C.G.A., relating to elections and primaries generally, so as to provide for the establishment of a voter intimidation and illegal election activities hotline; to limit the ability of the State Election Board and the Secretary of State to enter into certain consent agreements; to amend Article 1 of Chapter 13 of Title 50 of the O.C.G.A., relating to general provisions regarding administrative procedure, so as to provide for the submission and suspension of emergency rules by the State Election Board; to provide for severability; to provide for related matters; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes.

As for ID and absentee, we have it here in WI, With Evers tossing in person in question I had no difficulty sending for a ballot. Its your soft racist BS of minorities not being able to text their ID to a clerk. When does “president” Bidet going to teach them low IQ ignorants how to use technology? Or find a DMV for a free ID?

This is all a moot argument.

Dems don’t accept balance, equality, or Law. They have indoctrinated their followers to think the ails of the world were caused by White Christian Men, so a person that is not all three of these sees fit to destroy others based on their skin color, religion, and gender.

Godless beta-males hate Trump because he’s effective.
Women hate men because they live on the backs of male providence and don’t understand it.
Non-whites have been galvanized to think whites need to be exterminated.

All of these wrongful ideas are bolstered by ideologies that believe “any means necessary” has been reached. Democrats are these people.

Simply setting voting laws to be the same for everyone is correct. Making it easier or outright harvesting a racial minority groups votes is wrong.

The Marxist ideology that some Americans should be held to a lower standard, because racism or slavery or poverty or whatever is wrong.

And it doesn’t have a place in America.

@Nathan Blue:

Aside from your overwhelming blather of nonsense, this was rather telling:

Making it easier or outright harvesting a racial minority groups votes is wrong.

I’m not sure if the “or” is meant to differentiate the 2 (and I’d go as far to say I doubt that you do either) but making it easier for individuals to vote and harvesting votes from factions of voters are two entirely different things.

Intentional inconveniences to vote verses making it easier to vote is also another story.

Clearly, most everyone agrees that every single legally qualified U.S. citizen should have the right to vote.

It’s also clear that more people voting hurts Republicans chances of winning. Even Trump openly admitted this as well as numerous R lawmakers.

What R states are openly doing ain’t exactly rocket science.

Anyone supporting loose voting policies is simply supporting the end of free and fair elections.

It’s a fact that millions of fraudulent votes were cast for Joe Biden in this past election. That the Democrats were in a position to hide it, because tacitly believed a rigged election was justified against Trump, is of no consequence.

No history book will deny the gynocentric based Marxism that festered in the triad of American entertainment, media, and education that led to a radicalizing of lower class Americans.

It is the fate of America that we would die on the sword of coherence, so that people actually believe that affiliating with Robert de Niro or Whoopi Goldberg is the national imperative.

What Democrats and their cultists are promoting is simply the end of our Democratic processes.

Hundreds of affidavits signed, incontrovertible truth that non-existent people voted was provided by Steven Crowder, and there’s video evidence of voting operations going on after poll watchers have been lied to and sent home.

Zealot Dems will never allow themselves to see what kind of fascists they’ve become.
They believe cheating is justified, and are acting accordingly.

@Ronald J. Ward: there are no intentional obstacles being thrown up to prevent minorities from voting.

There are billions being spent however to harvest minority votes.

Making it easier to vote also makes it easier to cheat.

Yes, for minorities and young people are more susceptible to massive amounts of propaganda, making their votes essentially fraudulent.

If you’re voting because of Jim Carrey and Alec Baldwin on Saturday night live, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all.

The hedge against Democrat propaganda is simply making the voting process requires something a normal responsible adult can handle. This weeds out the young and those of the poor were waiting for somebody to give them something for nothing.

The Democrats don’t have a majority. They merely have more propaganda and promise people free shit.

That’s not democracy.

What people like you can’t seem to talk about is what happens when a one-party police state is achieved by the Democratic Party? What happens when they never lose an election?

You understand that that’s a tyrannical authoritarian regime, right?

Democrats did not win the presidential election. There’s going to be hell to pay if the low thinking minority like you keep pressing for rigged elections and keep professing to be the majority you are not.

That’s said, there should be hurdles to voting to weed out the riff raff from the responsible citizens.

@Nathan Blue:

@Ronald J. Ward: there are no intentional obstacles being thrown up to prevent minorities from voting.

The problem with your alternate fact world is that either you cannot distinguish what is in fact factual or that you simply don’t care.

There is a huge national and even international argument that disagrees with your statement. But of course, as always, you, an unhinged rabidly partisan hack who believes every lie Trump has ever said, demands these arguments either don’t exist or somehow you have superior knowledge that renders the world incorrect because, well, you say so.

Your say so on so many issues without any coherent explanation has grown increasingly less impressive with, say, reality.

Making it easier to vote also makes it easier to cheat.

Yes, for minorities and young people are more susceptible to massive amounts of propaganda, making their votes essentially fraudulent.

If you’re voting because of Jim Carrey and Alec Baldwin on Saturday night live, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all.

The hedge against Democrat propaganda is simply making the voting process requires something a normal responsible adult can handle. This weeds out the young and those of the poor were waiting for somebody to give them something for nothing.

The Democrats don’t have a majority. They merely have more propaganda and promise people free shit.

This dwells into the even more unhinged. You say that since minorities and young voters are naive and vote as instructed by SNL, they “shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all”. And you say “making it easier to vote makes it easier to cheat” yet you said no intentional obstacles are being thrown at minorities.

So you seem to say that you don’t think obstacles are there but you do say there should be?

You also advocate we “weed out the riff raft” which you say is the the young and poor.

So, what age? How rich? How white? What “weed out” test.

What people like you can’t seem to talk about is what happens when a one-party police state is achieved by the Democratic (sic) Party? What happens when they never lose an election?

Now we’re getting down to the nuts and bolts of democracy. What happens when a party the opposition deems a police state is elected by the people over and over and those people never vote them out? You do all you can to either decide who can vote (young and minorities should never vote again) or by how you count the vote (gerrymandering).

And this is exactly what the Party of Trump is doing.

You admitted it and justified it.

@Deplorable Me, #32:

Really. Well, a record number (of living, eligible citizens) voted in 2020 and Trump won, in addition to taking House seats away from Democrats. Only through fraud did the Democrats take the election.

That’s The Trump Election Fraud Lie in a nutshell. It’s complete unadulterated bullshit, without a shred of credible evidence to back it up.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Intentional inconveniences to vote verses making it easier to vote is also another story.

Something you, as a Democrat and supporter of Democrats, would know all too well, since your party is who created the Jim Crow laws. But, tell me… what is so terrible, in this age of illegal immigrants, which 25,000,000 have been allowed into the country by Democrats and encouraged to vote in our elections by Democrats, with having clear identification of who is voting to assure that person is allowed to vote? There is but ONE reason to be against it; it makes it more difficult to commit fraud, which you and your party have become dependent upon.

Positive voter ID is a reason why vote harvesting, expanded absentee voting and vote by mail is so critical to Democrats; it circumvents any voter ID. Anyone that can get their hands on the ballots can vote for whatever candidate the holder of those ballots wishes… which is exactly what happened in so many precincts in 2020.

Fraud is the only driving force behind the Democrat proposals. Not one single detail in their proposal addresses voter security and is not easily susceptible to fraud… just like in 2020.

For you, it’s all about stealing. Lying and stealing.

@Greg:

That’s The Trump Election Fraud Lie in a nutshell. It’s complete unadulterated bullshit, without a shred of credible evidence to back it up.

Yet you are all afraid to address the valid examples of clear fraud for fear of the proof. NO ONE believes that babbling, hiding idiot Biden won an election. He was stupid as VP and now he is stupid and demented.

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