There has been a lot of boasting about the Kraken. Sidney Powell, for whom I have a lot of respect, promised us a Kraken some time ago but has been rebuffed repeatedly in her efforts to draw attention to what appears to be solid evidence of voter fraud. Recounts are pretty much worthless if you ignore the safeties provided, i.e. despite there being tens of millions more mail in ballots the rejection rate went way down. Signature matching is critical for mail in ballots and democrats have made every effort to suppress it.
Despite a MASSIVE increase in mail-in ballots in Georgia, the rejection rate in 2016 was 17 TIMES greater than 2020.
If there was a similar rejection rate in 2020 (by still having signature match!), @realDonaldTrump would net gain 25,587 votes.
FASCINATING from Texas v. PA ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/hFYE33lNHX
— Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) December 8, 2020
But it turns out the real Kraken has been released. It is by all accounts a remarkable document and its being kept secret is a thing of beauty. It has caught democrat completely off guard.
The bottom line:
ICYMI: Today I sued Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin for exploiting the #COVID19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election ➡️ https://t.co/xRB13FMIdU pic.twitter.com/5lVgKCQ3sQ
— Texas Attorney General (@TXAG) December 8, 2020
Robert Barnes makes it simple:
Imagine playing a game where the refs changed the rules in the middle of the game, and they didn't even have the right to write the rules in the first place? That is what Texas is suing over: a bunch of states rewriting the rules mid-game that they didn't even have right to write
— Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) December 9, 2020
Plus
Based on evidence obtained from DMV, Trump campaign says they identified almost 4K immigrant voters.
I’m guessing these are people who registered to vote while using a green card for identification.
That would be a massive scandal. pic.twitter.com/yb1hjmGr97
— Victor Joecks (@VictorJoecks) December 9, 2020
I haven’t made too much of previous lawsuits based on my feeds from Parler and Twitter. I am not a lawyer but there are a whole lot of really good lawyers on the feed and it is their enthusiasm that encourages me.
Finally got a chance to read the Texas lawsuit. This is the real legal
kraken, cogent and extremely well-written, with lots of tentacles. They even built in some insurance by making it both about this and future elections. Easily the best case. Amazing how they kept it quiet too.— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) December 9, 2020
Agree on all fronts. https://t.co/sVMid3av1g
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) December 9, 2020
This is a serious question. There's a serious argument that there's mandatory jurisdiction in such state v state cases https://t.co/iMgueR4d20
— Jonathan H. Adler (@jadler1969) December 9, 2020
"Why does he say that! He means when they review the record of fraud in the lower courts! You can't introduce evidence in the Supreme Court!"
And damn if every lower court so far has refused to let that evidence be heard.
Well, I'm not saying Thomas knew it, but… >
— Ron Coleman (@RonColeman) December 9, 2020
The Texas lawsuit is a bombshell:
– States unconstitutionally changed laws removing safeguards right before 11/3
– PA disregarded SCOTUS' call to separate ballots received after 11/3
– Data Scientists conclude the likelihood of Biden's win in WI and MI is 1 in one quadrillion pic.twitter.com/7tzrm8CUjq
— Yo dat elefant (@YoDatElefant) December 9, 2020
SCOTUS has agreed to take it on
BREAKING: The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 to take up the lawsuit from Texas, which now has a total of 10 states. TN has just joined the suit against GA, PA, WI, and MI.
— Carol (@Carol38553) December 9, 2020
Best of all, George Conway thinks it’s insane.

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That’s what the winners of U.S. presidential elections are called until they’re sworn in and take office. Biden won the election. He will have 306 electoral votes vs. Trump’s 232. The fact that the angriest lame duck in U.S. history is in total denial does not change that.
No credible evidence has been provided anywhere supporting his claims of election irregularities.
@Greg: Ya ya ya the childish there is no evidence mantra. Why is MI SOS hiding the forensic audit of the dominion machine? Where is all the chain of custody paperwork in PA ?
@Greg:
Perhaps you can tell us when the term “President Elect” went into fashion? Or even better, tell us where the “Office of President Elect” is located and when it was created.
You’re such an idiot. Biden is simply mimicking what Obama did. But then, I guess you also believe that Bargain Basement Joe garnered more votes than Obama. Yeah, I’m buying that one.
And while you claim there is no evidence of election fraud, you can only do it by dismissing the many, MANY testimonies of sworn witnesses to the various State Senate hearings.
I wish Bargain Basement Joe had won legally. But he didn’t and the nation will be forever hurt by his presidency. Well, at least you will get your wish, Communism for all in spite of a nation built on Federalism and free market capitalism.
@Greg:
That means Obiden doesn’t qualify, because he lost. Massive evidence of widespread fraud. It is undeniable.
@kitt:
And your question was:
You see, this is a typical example of what the bizarre and divorced from reality Trumpworld is. What possible “evidence” could I possibly provide and/or you’d possibly accept to such a rhetorical question? Perhaps a clean bill of health report from a shrink? A signed affidavit from an employer or maybe several coworkers? And on top of that, I provided a long winded list of example as to why it is you rather than I with the glazed over zombie problem, your inability to accept things that are true.
But as always, you follow the playbook of your cloned basket of gulibles by tossing out illogical questions and then fabricating them in your mind to be some “gotcha” win.
And here we go again with the Dominion voting systems argument (one of the glimmers of the basket I failed to add to the rather long list.. The recounts cleared that up, particularly in GA as pulling paper trail of the ballots match the electronic results. But here you are doing what Trump cultists do, disregarding facts that don’t play into what you want the outcome to be.
Again, if any of your mockingbird or CIA deep state theories with digital armies had legs, why are they not being considered by even hard core conservative judges? Or Trump’s loyal Trump appointed judges? Because these are crankpot conspiracy theories that the Trump propaganda machine can brainwash you with but it doesn’t fly in a court of law.
This actually gets back to my point about the difference in Trumpland and the real world. In Trumpland, you can say and believe whatever suits your agenda all day long. In the real world, if it doesn’t stand to scrutiny, it’s no cigar.
@retire05:
It really isn’t a matter of cases misreporting or even if a news source has a political slant but rather the absolute insistence from the basket that if it’s reported on CNN, NYT, and all the others, it’s 100% fake news and that’s it.
I could get all long winded again with a list of FOX News lies and distortions but again, that would miss the actual point.
Let’s revisit that 60 Minute interview”
The basket has been convinced by the leader of our government to discredit any news sources that reports anything negative about the leader of our government. It has nothing to do with “fake news”. Hell, CNN and NYT are both substantially more accurate on their reporting than the Trump administration.
This is another example of the basket being had in broad daylight, proven to have been had, yet stand firmly behind the con man who told you to believe him and discredit anyone who says anything negative about him.
You have to deny this and protect Trump because you are the basket.
@Ronald J. Ward: Let’s revisit that 60 Minutes interview” Yes lets do that!
Lesley Stahl: Denying they spied on Trump in spite of congressional testimony,
FISA warrants illegally obtained. Yup 60 minutes gaslighting your ass.
Whiny lying ignoramus got 20 minutes before Trump left and then released the unedited version of her pathetic performance.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Well, your posts certainly wouldn’t do it.
AGAIN? You’ve never posted ANY evidence to back up that claim. You also didn’t explain how all your favored media sources claimed the evidence Joe and Hunter were wet-kissing China was deemed “Russian disinformaton” before the election when now, after the successful fraud, they report it as new news. But, you always scurry away from the questions that PROVE you prefer lies to facts.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Again, my questions to you that you fail to address:
Would not those also be the same sources that guaranteed their viewers, and readers (you included obviously) that the “Trump Colluded With The Russians” was the truth and even allowed Adam Shiff, and Fang Fang’s bump partner to declare, without substantion, that there was clear evidence of such claim? Would not those also be the same sources that told their viewers, and readers, that the Hunter Biden scandal was “Russia” disinformation?
Would not also be the same sources that gave Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. a tongue bath for 8 long years, even as Obama wire tapped journalists, kicked journalists off the AF1 press staff, jailed whistleblowers and basically shut down any press that refused to worship at the alter of Obama?
When a “news” source consistently refuses to report the truth, or downplays the truth by the art of wordsmithing, it is “fake” news and no longer a news source but a method of creating opinion, their political opinion, within their viewing/reading audience. And like all left wingers, you lump everyone in to one “basket”. Identity politics is all you know.
Since I don’t watch Fox News, I will refrain from giving you an opinion on the “lies” you claim has been told but I will state that those like Chris Wallace are radical left wingers who have no issues gaslighting their viewers. Marie Harf? Give me a break. She is dumber than a brick and nothing more than a DNC mouthpiece, ala Donna Brazile, Jessica Tarnoff, Juan Williams.
Yes, shall we?
From the actual Leslie Stahl transcript:
President Donald Trump: I don’t mind it. I don’t mind it. But when I watch him walk out of a store, and he’s walking with an ice cream. And the question the media asks him, ‘What kind of ice cream? What flavor ice cream do you have?’ And he’s in the midst of a scandal.
Lesley Stahl: He’s not. (now the election has been held, and she has her preferred candidate seemingly elected, her employer has decided to at least give lip service to the Biden “scandal” although, if she was a reporter worth her salt, she knew that during the Trump interview.}
President Donald Trump: And he’s taking
Lesley Stahl: He’s not, no–
President Donald Trump: Of course he is, Lesley.
Lesley Stahl: Come on.
President Donald Trump: Of course he is.
There are very few honest journalists left. Perhaps you would like to name a few that you consider fact reporters and not graduates of the Walter School of Journalism?
But it seems you would rather try to pit one American against another, in typical left wing Democrat style. Be careful what you wish for, Ward/AJ, you just may get it.
@Deplorable Me, #54:
Nearly every judge one of Trump’s fifty-plus bullshit election fraud lawsuits has come before has denied it in no uncertain terms, citing the fact that THERE IS NO DAMN EVIDENCE.
@Greg: There is AMPLE evidence. REAL evidence, not Schiff evidence. Eyewitnesses, affidavits, video, recordings, videos proving how votes are changed on Dominion, the records of the vote count, showing the sudden and impossible surge in numerous swing states and the Pennsylvania violation of their Constitution to allow for anyone and everyone to vote by mail, regardless of qualification, residency or how many times they vote. Then, right off the line, Democrats were encouraging their minions to commit voter fraud in the Georgia runoff. Openly. On television. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
What there is no evidence of is that the 2020 election was legitimate.
The Wisconsin lawsuit was just dismissed—by a judge who was appointed by Donald Trump to the federal bench.
@retire05:
Your questions are a product of your opinions rather than facts. You want me to agree, denounce, and/or defend conspiracy theories and fabricated scandals. This is what happens in Trumpland, a land where the basket cannot distinguish what is true and what is not true and as long as it supports their agenda, they don’t care.
Now the questions I asked were based on what we actually witness in real time. We heard Trump tell his basket of gullibles that he intentionally slowed COVID testing. We saw on live TV his assault on peaceful protestors for a photo op. We heard him on live camera saying we’ve rounded the curve on COVID. We saw live him using the White House for a GOP convention. We watched on live camera when his own defense team admitted “mountains of evidence” existed on his impeachment charges and we heard Graham, McConnell, and others openly stating they would not convict him under any circumstances. We watched a live congressional hearing where Mueller openly stated the reasons he could not indict a sitting president. We can all view the monthly BLS reports and pull up an indisputable chart of the economy which those cards on the table do not lie about the economy. We can see with our own eyes what the deficit is, what it was when Trump entered, and what he promised. We now know how the tax scam worked out. The entire Trump shitshow of a presidency has been an hourly saga of lies, profiteering, cronyism, bullying, and coddling of foreign adversaries. There just doesn’t seem to be a quitting spot of listing them. Even this very argument of the TX lawsuit is a crock of shit that we’re all watching in real time while Trump has raked in hundreds of millions of dollars. You cannot and will not accept or confront inconvenient facts and realities even when they occur in broad daylight on on live camera for the entire world to see.
That’s the difference in Trumpland and the real world.
@Ronald J. Ward:
How does asking you questions support that claim?
Nice attempt at a dodge, but alas, no cigar for you.
My “opinion” can be backed up with facts that you clearly want to dodge, just like you dodge everything else when the facts do not support your opinion. Hence, the rest of your blathering post. You take actual events and bastardize them, twist them, or blatantly lie about them.
You are worthless, Ward/AJ. You’re not even a good provocateur.
@Ronald J. Ward: 1
Four key government health care officials said Tuesday that despite recent remarks from President Trump, they were never ordered to “slow down” diagnostic testing for Covid-19.
Their testimony at a congressional hearing came just three days after the president, at a campaign rally, told supporters that he had ordered a deceleration of Covid-19 testing. During a rally in Tulsa, Okla., Trump misleadingly escalated his long-standing claim that the high U.S. case count is simply a result of thorough testing.
“When you do testing to that extent, you’re gonna find more people, you’re gonna find more cases,” Trump said. “So I said to my people, ‘slow the testing down, please.’”
The peaceful protestors that burned the church the night before? Were ordered 3 times to move from the area?
The death rate from kung flu is way down.
The GOP convention was virtual I watched it on TV, the outside gathering and fireworks perfectly legal.
Mountains of hearsay the firsthand witness a figment of Schiffs imagination or a spy.
Any evidence Muellers teamfound could have been turned over to Nadler for impeachment as they did for Slick Willie.
I open my monthly statement I know how the economy is going it would be much better if the Democrats did not intentionally tank their states.
Trump has always raked in hundreds of millions but shows a net loss for his Presidency in net worth. Donating his entire salary for his entire term.
I can back up everything with links, but you first.
It may turn out that the giant octopus was the Trump cult and the ship about to be pulled under was the GOP. This video was recorded during a Stop the Steal speech today in Washington DC.
The MAGA movement was a Trojan horse.
@Greg: Yup seems to be one or two in every group they can have their assnine opinions we allow that. Why not General Flynn? when the M1 flew over the tens of thousands ?
Dont miss the meteor shower tonight we have clouds, maybe 1 to 3 inches of snow 🙁
Well well well
Dominion’s vote totals showed 663 people voted in a district where there were only 6 eligible voters and only 3 of those 6 actually voted. Somehow, Dominion added 660 additional votes to the final tally.
@kitt:
Add to that, live and in living color:
And then there was the time in Fulton County when they counted 100 military ballots (a group that usually goes 60/40 for R’s) and every single one of them went for Biden. At this stage, any honest adult with basic reasoning capabilities can easily see how this was NOT a free and fair election.
@retire05:
That again describes the difference in Trumoland and the real world. Trump indoctrinated cultists are unable to determine facts from fiction so accordingly, to them, their fiction is factual.
COVID is spiraling out of control with record deaths. That isn’t an opinion.
Yet in Trumpoland, the virus is “rounding the curve” because they have facts to back it up. You know, facts from GatewayPundit or AmericanThinker or Moonbattery,com. Or better yet, because Honest Don said so so take that!
And ditto with Trump’s claim of creating a booming economy and Trump University and steaks and Mexico paying for a wall and the economy he’s leaving in ashes (but in fairness, the economy left in ashes is more of a republican thing in general so when you have a Republican president, that’s just gonna happen) and the long list I mention and could easily quadruple it.
Trumpland vs real world is exactly what we’re seeing with Trump and his helpless abetting legislators trying to steal an election and the indoctrinated basket clinging to Newsmax and Limbaugh and Hannity for shiny glimmer that they can convince themselves are facts- and then follow up with the Federalist and voices in their heads to confirm and verify those fabricated facts.
This is why Trump’s fights are going nowhere in the court rooms. We’re dealing with a basket of crazy drunken uncles crawling out of their basements and screeching about having facts when the law isn’t on their side. This is why all 9 SCOTUS justices thumped their noses at the TX suit. And yes, it was all nine as 7 of them basically told TX not to even bring the crap they’re selling to them at all while the other 2 basically said it’s okay to knock on their door but they ain’t gonna buy it.
But again, we’re dealing with people who still think Obama was secretly planted in the U.S. as a baby to be raised by a poor single mother in order to become the 1st black president in order to transform us to Muslim beliefs. These people have the facts if needed, just as they have the facts that GWB left Obama a booming economy which Obama promptly wrecked and then Trump saved.
The problem is that your facts are Trumpland facts and my facts are what we’re seeing in real time. I realize that Trump, like Hitler, informed his basket not to believe what they see with their own eyes and hear with their own ears and to reject any evidence and/or facts that is anyway negative of him. And while that has worked out well for him in keeping support of an extremely blind and ugly faction of crazy uncles and those drowning in their tears of white grievances, it just doesn’t hold up in court.
@Ronald J. Ward: Yes, we back our opinions up with the facts upon which they are based. You lie, then scurry away from questions asking you to support your lie. That’s the difference.
But your entire fraudulent, corrupt, lying, anti-American party shares the same flaw.
@Ronald J. Ward: Oh FFS you dont even know Barrys history!
IMO his mom unless she gave up her citizenship before he was born that gives Barry citizenship by birth no matter where he came out of the womb.. Barrys mom had quickly remarried Soetoro after the Kenyan dumped her and his son. At 10 she dumped Barry on her parents.Not returning to her son even after her 2nd husband dumped her. She was not a struggling single parent, took little responsibility in raising her child.
Both Bushes were assholes.
Comparing Trump to Hitler is moronic on such a level it cannot be scaled. Where are the cattle trains, where are the camps the gas chambers the ovens, you belittle the holocaust.
But the Texas suit will be refiled with a bit of tweaking, along with others this fight aint over yet.
Trump supporters don’t seem to differentiate between facts and claims. Judges in a courtroom do.
@Greg: The courts have entertained the left’s fantasies on Russian collusion for 4 years. Are we supposed to stand in awe of “the courts” because they are “the courts”? The left has infected them with the same corrupt, lying fraud that they have infected the electoral system. Judge Sullivan is an exemplary example of such biased fraud.
Anyone that believed that Comey/Schiff/Mueller/Pelosi/MSM shit has no interest in facts or truth. ANYONE.
@Deplorable Me: They entertained the famous black book so all information out of Ukraine must be entertained, lets extradite the Bidens. Why do idiots think dismissing a case is equal to weighing the evidence? I suppose its because the “legal experts” on the boob tube tell them so.
@kitt: Of course. The cases are dismissed IGNORING and refusing to SEE the evidence, not for lack of evidence.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Laughable. You have yet to prove any of your rabidly opinionated claims.
Yet, the annual rate of deaths from the normal fall/winter flu seems to be plummeting. Why would that be, Mr. Knows Everything?
And why would those sources be any less credible than the sources you seem to rely so hard on? Or is it your opinion that anyone on the right side of the aisle is nothing more than a liar?
The economy was booming, with record employment, at least until the Chinese unleased their death on the entire world. You, like Comrade Greggie, want to lay all the blame for the Chi-Com flu at Trump’s feet while you never say one harsh word about China or the CCP that cared naught it its pandemic killed millions world wide. Why is that Ward/AJ, are you a provocateur for China?
Clearly you slept through the Carter days.
If you are going to respond to me, address me ONLY and don’t lump me in with your fictional boogie men. Obama’s mother wasn’t a “poor single mother.” She was married when Obama was born to an African who promptly deserted her, and his son. Yet, Obama devoted an entire (ghost written) book to his loser, Communist father and said very little about his mother who also dumped him. I will give you this; David Axelrod is brilliant. He sold a little known, low achiever to the entire nation as their “black” savior. Perhaps you would like to address what Obama ever did for the black communities? He cared so much about black children in D.C. that he ended the “voucher” system that poor black children used to go to charter schools where they actually got a good education, condemning them to failing D.C. public schools, while he sent his own children to a tony, expensive private school. If you think that was right of him, you are factually NUTS.
GWB inherited what Clinton did. I suggest you read Anatomy Of A Train Wreck. Educate yourself.
And exactly what are your “facts?” You’ve never clearly stated them. All we get from you is vague blatherings that are meaningless.
@kitt:
Your history lesson of Obama’s upgrading not only misses the point but falls short of denouncing the birther scam.
Of course both Bushes were assholes. You can say that now. In a few years, you will be allowed to rationally discuss some of Trump’s negative points as well. But for now, you aren’t allowed.
I’ll admit my comparison of Trump and Hitler making the same pitch of not believing what you see and hear was incorrect. It wasn’t Hitler but rather George Orwell.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
—George Orwell
“Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening,”
—-Donald Trump
Trump has mimicked Hitler so many times it’s hard to keep up. He’s praised Hitler’s book, “Mein Kampf” on many occasions, even saying it’s his favorite. The parallels are blaring.
Hitler’s primary rules were outlined:
Never allow the public to cool off
Never admit a fault or wrong
Never concede that there may be some good in your enemy
Never leave room for alternatives
Never accept blame
Concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong.
This is your man. Hitler gained a large part of his base by commandeering public radio. Trump gained a large part of his basket by convincing the idiots that any media discrediting him was fake news. And those blind sheep swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
While I know you reject polls (unless of course like elections, they go in your favor) but they’re showing that around 62% of Americans feel the election is over and Biden the winner. That leaves roughly 38%, the Trump basket of gulibles, those unable to distinguish what is true and what is false. America will likely be infected by these scumbags for years to come.
@retire05:
The only thing AJ proves is that he approves of political terror and violence, fraud, corruption, lying and trashing the Constitution. In every argument, he comes down on the side of destroying this nation.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Who has ever made that argument? Provide proof.
Your Democrats are the true Hitler sycophants. Fascism is their stock in trade. Just blaming others for what you yourself is doing doesn’t work.
Pallets of ballots
We need to get US marshals to seize the machines and shipped in ballots on pallets.
@Ronald J. Ward:
It is clear that you have never read Orwell. If you have, you lost his point somewhere in translation.
And where is your proof of that claim?
You mean how Chuck (the schmuck) Schumer went to the steps of the Congress and threatened USSC justices to a crowd? Or how the Democrats are constantly holding microphones to their lying mouths trying to rile up crowds and demanding those crowds believe the Democrats lies?
Name one damn Democrat that has ever admitted being wrong or at fault for anything fool headed thing they have done.
Assuming you are of the opinion that Republicans are the enemy, please list the times the Democrats have conceded there is some good in Republicans.
There is no alternative with Democrats. It’s their way, or the highway.
“I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski.” You want more?
If you were honest, you would admit that is exactly what the Democrats have done to Trump in the last four years. But you’re not honest, so you won’t.
@retire05:
I wasn’t talking about the flu. I was talking about Trumpland people falling for Trump’s lie that we’re rounding the curve on COVID. Of course, that isn’t true so you childishly change the subject by asking about the flu. The reason flu cases are plummeting is due to a larger practice of social distancing, mask wearing, schools etc. closed, and a better hygiene awareness and practice.
These are propaganda sites. Do you consider FloppingAces to be a news source, a place to get an objective opinion? Of course not. You and your ilk defending these sources as credible news would be like me doing the same for Dailykoes.
I’ve argued before how New York Times and Washington Post are worldwide known and respected for their investigating reporting, having won numerous awards spanning over centuries. So why would they give up that status over a man who couldn’t possibly be president after 2024?
Actually, not so much as cracks were appearing. Manufacturing jobs had retracted in the fall and winter of 2019, up only in Nov due to returning GM striking workers.
You fail to mention what GWB left us along with what Trump’s leaving us.
But that’s okay I suppose, Dems are here again to pick up the pieces of Republican failures.
@Ronald J. Ward: Damn you are funny!
They told us we could knock the Kung flu out at 80 % mask compliance NY has 97% and arresting people for opening their businesses because of rising cases.
Both viruses are airborne try again hillbilly they are adding the flu and every other illness under covid. The have a financial incentive to do so.
@Ronald J. Ward: Has the NYT reported on Swalwell getting duped by a Chinese communist spy while he sat on the House Intel Committee and the Chinese infiltrating the Democrat party? Why do you think the NYT wouldn’t be reporting such a “bombshell” story?
Yeah, you have a real eye for “propaganda sites”. Except when you are sucking all the lies out of them.
@kitt: While Cuomo and DeBlasio kill small businesses, SNL can run their weekly propaganda with a full studio audience. More of the rules for thee, not for me Democrat behavior. That’s the way the socialist elite act.
@Ronald J. Ward:
So the retraction in manufacturing jobs was not caused by the UAW strike against GM but the ending of the strike caused an uptick in manufacturing jobs?
That is real circular thinking.
You fail to acknowledge the causation.
Bush had but a few short months to deal with the crash. Obama had 8 years and no honest economist will say that Obama’s “new normal” for the GDP was correct.
Every failed idea the government has ever come up with has been a Democrat idea. And sadly, it is Democrats that always sell this nation out.
@retire05: You forget about all the chicken poop fracking jobs. https://www.facebook.com/SeanHannity/videos/biden-rambles-about-chicken-manure-at-town-hall/619181252303669/
Another shitty idea.
Trump, Saturday:
You’ve got that right. Nobody can even believe it.
@Greg: You best learn about chicken manure.
This is why we like Trump the guy never forgets his peeps
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1338299755793936385
@kitt:
Should know all about it. His entire party is chicken shit.
@Greg: Tell us, why did Biden lie about his son making money in his China deals? Why did he think that was so critical to blatantly lie about? Will you answer?
Remember, election fraud is so really REAL that Democrats openly promoted it on television for the Georgia runnoff.
@retire05:
That is a true Trumpland assessment-divorced from reality, inconsistent with BLS numbers, and a rejection and defiance of facts in order to arrive at a conclusion of Trumpland preferences. It doesn’t even deserve a repeated account of Bush’s failed leadership and economics leading up to the crash. He took office 1-20-2001, not Sep 2008 so your “only had a few months is delusional in itself. And the BLS numbers are there for all to see. There is no string of economic accomplishments or legislations under Trump to assign him credit of which he claimed often during his term. He was simply enjoying riding the coattails of success from his predecessor. Now you cans scoff at that and amuse yourself with the Trumpland lies you’ve consumed nonstop for 4 years but Trumpland say-sos are only factual in Trumpland.
Here’s a prediction based on factual history. If Rs retain the senate, expect full blown obstruction and economic sabotage from Mitch McConnell, possibly worse than they were during Obama’s years. They will again damage the economy and torch any and every effort to pick up the pieces in order to blame Biden. They will follow the Rush Limbaugh play book of insuring a presidential failure or as Mitch himself admitted, “to insure Obama is a 1 term president”. Expect absolute obstruction of seating qualified people in positions that would help the country. Mitch will not bend to anything that that would possibly be construed as a feather in Biden’s hat-even if masses of people die in the streets.
Watch and see. Oh, wait, these are things you’re incapable of seeing, even with an admission on live camera in front of an audience.
In reality, Mitch and team are already in the process of sabotaging an already sabotaged economy on COVID relief. This is just what today’s so-called conservatives do.
@Ronald J. Ward:
How about providing an example of what you are referring to? The 2008 crash was a direct result of the DEMOCRAT Community Reinvestment Act. That goes as far back as Carter with Clinton making it even worse by mandating lending organizations make 10% of their loans to people who can’t repay them. THAT created the toxic lending atmosphere that brought about the crash. But, that’s what Democrats do; create massive disasters, walk away from them and blame Republicans for not cleaning it up quickly enough.
Pelosi has blocked the aid the American people need; she even admitted she did it until the fraud brought Obiden into office. You don’t support anyone but scumbags.
The economy under Trump was so great that you lying weasels wanted to take credit for it for the idol you worship, Obama. The left is nothing but a parasitic organization.
@Deplorable Me:
In Trumpland, Trump lapdogs will find something shiny to suffice as factual evidence and disregard the many variables of the issue. Democrats never demanded banks to loan and refinance homes at 125% of the value. Democrats didn’t weaken banking regulations akin to that of pre-Great Depression era like the GWB/GOP did when they shoved their tax breaks and derogations through.
Much of this was the results of the banking industries own greed and their donor status control of the Republican Party.
You are equally incorrect on your blind assessment of COVID relief, unable to debate (or even accept) the realities of the debate of what’s entailed in the negotiations. You don’t care.
It’s been nearly 6 weeks. Where has he been? He obviously no longer gives a shit.
This is repeated Trumpland delusion. There is no evidence of that, no legislation to back it up, inconsistent with the very source that Trump uses to validate it, and does not square with real history that we saw in real time. Trump has repeated this lie over and over to his cultists so naturally they know nothing else.
The economy had been churning along at pretty much the same pace for 10 years, dipping slightly under the 1st 3 years of Trump from the last 3 years of Obama. Obama faired slightly better than Trump.
But then came the Trump virus which changed everything completely.
So the question is what’s going to happen now. Rs will continue to obstruct and sabotage any and all efforts to resolve the problem and then toss out sophomoric rhetoric and innuendoes to encourage their basket of gulibles to blame the other party. The basket, being unable to distinguish truth from fiction, will obediently oblige in selling their snake oil.
WASHINGTON – The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) tonight issued Emergency Directive 21-01, in response to a known compromise involving SolarWinds Orion products that are currently being exploited by malicious actors. This Emergency Directive calls on all federal civilian agencies to review their networks for indicators of compromise and disconnect or power down SolarWinds Orion products immediately.
“The compromise of SolarWinds’ Orion Network Management Products poses unacceptable risks to the security of federal networks,” said CISA Acting Director Brandon Wales. “Tonight’s directive is intended to mitigate potential compromises within federal civilian networks, and we urge all our partners—in the public and private sectors—to assess their exposure to this compromise and to secure their networks against any exploitation.”
This is the fifth Emergency Directive issued by CISA under the authorities granted by Congress in the Cybersecurity Act of 2015. All agencies operating SolarWinds products should provide a completion report to CISA by 12pm Eastern Standard Time on Monday December 14, 2020.
Dominion uses an Internet technology firm that was hacked and crashed Google, YouTube, et al. Dominion uses SolarWinds software
If any bear is hacking its a Panda bear.
@Ronald J. Ward:
They donate more heavily to the DNC, but that’s just truth and stuff. You wouldn’t be interested.
Oh. Really.
Obama did not build Trump’s booming economy
Manufacturing jobs added since 2012
AGAIN, no, Obama did not create Trump’s economy
https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/19/no-president-obama-you-dont-deserve-the-credit-for-trumps-awesome-economy/
Trump’s economy has outperformed 16 years of Bush and Obama
Manufacturing jobs growing 714% faster under Trump than under Obama
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/01/04/312000-jobs-added-in-december-manufacturing-growing-714-faster-under-trump-than-obama/?fbclid=IwAR1s3i5VhVh7YRawtv8sh9WI2omil_wbb65nRfL25DuSOxnv_8NT0M6sSGU#7626c1745b50
Obama vs. Trump; first two years
And Trump’s economy doesn’t need to be “rebuilt”. It just needs to be unleashed again.
Third quarter 2020 growth: 33.1%, a record. The media hates it and lies about it
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/391024.php
Paul Krugman can’t stand the good jobs report… has to lie about the facts
https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/06/05/paul-krugman-caught-in-hilarious-self-own-after-furiously-spinning-conspiracy-theories-about-good-jobs-report/
4.8 million jobs in June
https://www.theepochtimes.com/with-restrictions-eased-4-8-million-jobs-pour-back-in-june_3409851.html?utm_source=CCPVirusNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-07-03
HUGE jobs report for May; Democrats shocked and devastated
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/05/huge-shocker-of-a-jobs-report-released-media-projections-hardest-hit/
Despite COVID19, tax receipts in March reach record high
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/terence-p-jeffrey/federal-tax-collections-were-march-despite-covid-19-shutdown
Even though it is amazingly easy, I just LOVE kicking your ass all over this page.
@Deplorable Me:
In case you missed it or unable to comprehend, GatewayPundit, Redstate, theepochtimes, cnsnews, and good lord, the Federalist, are conspiracy Trumpland promoting sites. Even as much of a leftist you guys accuse me of being I don’t even link Dailykoes or Democratic Undergroung as credible sources. I don’t even link Huffpost.
You do a good enough job discrediting yourself with unhinged nonsense and as an adamant Trumpland cultist and reality denier that. You really don’t need the additional help.
@Ronald J. Ward: YOU missed numerous opportunities to prove they don’t tell the truth. Actually, they just give you the information you don’t want revealed. You never answered; why hasn’t the NYT reported on Swalwell’s compromise by a communist Chinese spy? Why isn’t someone on the House Intel Committed screwing a communist spy news to you? Why isn’t the absolute and total infiltration of the DNC, Democrats and their Presidential candidate news to you?
Suffice it to say, I hammered you with FACTS and you have no response. Again, I LOVE this! Yeah, it’s easy, but you NEED to be kicked all over this page, your lies exposed and your cowardice confirmed.
YOUR propaganda buried the FACTUAL story of the Biden crime family and how the Chinese have them on a leash. 17% of Biden voters said had they had that information they would not have voted for this corrupt liar (not you, though; you LIKE corrupt liars). Who is more credible; those who give the American people the facts or those who select the facts they want people to know and bury the rest? You obviously prefer the latter.
@Deplorable Me: Ward will never accept any media outside of CIA mockingbird, CCP approved sources.
He loves his illusion and ready with a standard response.
@Deplorable Me:
You were full blown batshit crazy even when Trump won in 2016. Now that he’s been soundly defeated and out of options to steal the election, you and the basket are far too down the gaslighting rabbit hole for hope.
I predicted long ago of the evolving madness of the rabid right. You somewhat exceeded my very predictions.
I should have known better than even try to rationalize with you. Won’t happen again.
@Ronald J. Ward: You don’t “rationalize” with anyone. You simply lie. If you wanted to be rational, you would answer the numerous questions directed at you instead of making excuses for your support of fraud, corruption, crime, terror and violence. Obviously, the communist Chinese infiltrating and exercising control over the highest levels of our government doesn’t worry you in the least. That’s not “rational” for an American. Only for those who hate this country.
@kitt: Yeah, he thinks believing the NYT and accepting them lying to him on a regular and predictable basis is “rational”.
@Deplorable Me: Do you wonder if he will accept Just the news as a source? Or Justice Watch? No doubt drudge is now one of his go tos as well as Fox.