Donald Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows took some heat for his assertion that we’re not going to control the pandemic.
White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said Sunday that the country is “not going to control the pandemic” — noting it is contagious like the flu and must be managed with therapeutics and vaccines.
“We’re not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation efforts,” Meadows said during a contentious interview with Jake Tapper on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
“Why aren’t we going to get to control the pandemic?” Tapper asked.
“Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu,” Meadows responded, as the two went back and forth about President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence continuing to campaign after five members of Pence’s staff testing positive.
“Let me just say this is what we need to do is make sure that we have the proper mitigation factors — whether it’s therapies or vaccines or treatments — to make sure that people don’t die from this,” he said.
democrats immediately pounced on that
Former Vice President Joe Biden, who has made the Trump administration’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic a main thrust of his campaign, said he was “stunned.”
“This wasn’t a slip by Meadows,” Biden said in a statement. “It was a candid acknowledgement of what President Trump’s strategy has clearly been from the beginning of this crisis: to wave the white flag of defeat and hope that by ignoring it, the virus would simply go away. It hasn’t, and it won’t.”
Gov. Andrew Cuomo, meanwhile, accused the administration of “surrender.”
“He said we can’t control the virus. That was a very telling statement, that he said that. … Flattening the curve is controlling the virus,” Cuomo said Sunday at a coronavirus briefing.
He’s absolutely right. The evidence is all over. We are not going to control the pandemic. Biden says what he’s told to say. Cuomo has failed to control the COVID pandemic.
So has everyone else.
There is no “second wave.” It’s merely the first wave once again trying to barge in.
Remember when new Zealand was the darling of the world?
Wellington, New Zealand (CNN) After weeks of lockdown, New Zealand has achieved its ambitious goal of eliminating the coronavirus. But the country isn’t celebrating yet.
Over the past few days, newly diagnosed infections have been in the single digits. And on Monday, New Zealand reported just one new case.
“That does give us confidence that we’ve achieved our goal of elimination, which never meant zero but it does mean we know where our cases are coming from,” Ashley Bloomfield, New Zealand’s Director General of Health, said on Monday, adding that there was only one case since April 1 where authorities were still investigating the source of infection.
But they had not eliminated it. They only bottled it up.
Gradually the country was allowed to open a bit and POW- a new outbreak and another lockdown.
(CNN)New Zealand has extended a lockdown in its most populous city as the country battles a fresh community coronavirus outbreak that comes after months without any locally transmitted cases.
Only five days ago, New Zealand was marking an enviable milestone — 100 days without any community transmission. But this week has demonstrated how fast that can change, even in a country like New Zealand which has been held up as a world leader for its handling of the virus.
On Friday, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced that Auckland — the city of around 1.5 million people at the center of the new outbreak — will remain under a level three lockdown for another 12 days, while the rest of the country stays under level two restrictions, meaning gatherings are limited to no more than 100 people. The rules extend restrictions that came into effect earlier this week.
Victory over COVID was again declared and restrictions lifted:
New Zealand’s Prime Minister lifted coronavirus restrictions on its largest city on Wednesday, after the country appears to have eradicated community spread of the virus a second time.
“We can let ourselves once again feel pride,” said Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, “that we managed to get to that position together.”
After a second outbreak in August, the island country hasn’t had a positive case in 10 days. On Monday, Ardern announced that New Zealand’s latest COVID-19 cluster is “under control.”
Then, whoops, not so fast.
A new coronavirus outbreak is emerging in New Zealand after 11 fishermen tested positive while in hotel quarantine.
It is understood the workers flew in from Moscow via Singapore on Friday and are among 440 fishermen from Russia and Ukraine quarantining in Christchurch.
The 11 cases were discovered during ‘routine’ coronavirus testing and the Sudima Hotel was placed into lockdown on Tuesday, New Zealand Herald reported.
This cycle repeats everywhere. Locking down the country throws a blanket on the pandemic, but it survives.
As Alex Berenson says, “viruses gotta virus.”
We do know a lot more now than ever before. We know that there are comorbidities like obesity and heart disease. We know that the elderly are more vulnerable than the young. We know kids can safely return to school.
And we know more about survival rates from the CDC:
That means that for people 69 years old or younger, the survival rate is between 99.5 percent and 99.997 percent, while for those 70 or older, it is an estimated 94.6 percent.
We have better treatments. Vaccines are on the way.
We can debate the effectiveness of masks, but one thing is certain- lockdowns cause more damage than they prevent. Cancers are advancing because patients have avoided or have been prevented from coming in for treatment. Opiate deaths are way up. Lockdowns are destroying businesses, people and the economy.
Remember- cases don’t really matter. Hospitalizations and deaths do.
Hospitalizations and deaths are flat while the cases rise, as do the recoveries.
It is past time to move on. Protect the vulnerable and open the schools and the rest of the country. democrats want none of this and neither does Joe Biden, who’s ready to lock the country down forever.
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Except for liberals being foolish.
Remember Polio?
What I mean is, polio, tho rare, is STILL around.
Pockets of polio will always still be around as long as dumb people claim the vaccine is really a way to sterilize or even kill young people.
Eastern Africans as well as Pakistani and Bangladeshi people continue to recycle these stories just as we get close to eradication (control).
So, no, we will never fully control covid either.
Too many dumb people.
Democrats believe in lockdowns. Democrats believe in protests. Democrats believe in social distancing. Democrats believe in riots.
What’s wrong with this picture?
We got measles beat, well not so much you can never ever fully control a virus, viruses will, forever and always do their virus thing.
Made in China . . . F a p p i n g A s s h o l e s
Herd immunity happens after a majority, a large majority of the population has been exposed to a disease and not died, but gotten over it and become immune.
With Covid 19 a slight majority of cases are NON-symptomatic, like Barron Trump. Many others get it but then get over it, like Melania and Donald Trump.
A tiny minority die from it.
While we are waiting for the vaccine (that confers immunity, and if enough get it confers herd immunity) this non-fatal exposure is the other way for our population to get herd immunity.
And guess what happens while that is going on?
People who get tested are testing positive for having been exposed to it.
Duh!
Medical Malpractice reminds me of Moriarty from the Sherlock show.
After killing people, he is confront by Sherlock who tells him people will die.
Like a maniac, Moriarty screams “that’s what people do!!”
Of course, if the black guy was president now, MM would be singing a different tune.
@kitt: it is what it is, unless the black guy is president.
@ThomasPaine: It is what it is unless Trump is President. I do what I can as an individual to not catch cold or the flu, Im not so brainwashed to think the government can stop me from catching a virus airborne or not.
The FDA, NIAID and CDC need to be fully reformed.
@ThomasPaine: Why is skin color an issue?
@kitt:
Made… in… CHINA. Why is it so hard for you idiots to comprehend this? Trump has said it numerous times…
Biological warfare has been used for centuries, what makes you think the Chinks aren’t doing it to us now? Every year something comes here from China that makes people sick.
You couldn’t get a Clue if you changed your names to Colonel Mustard or Professor Plum.
@Deplorable Me: Because the Chinks sent the virus here to kill us round eyed white boys . . .
@Deplorable Me: @ThomasPaine:
Why is skin color an issue?
[“On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was descended from rabbinical families.”—Univ. Jew. Encyc., Vol. VII, p. 289]
@Chigna Tu Madre: I have said Biden spilled the beans at the debate with his Dark Winter comment. Go look that one up and stop with your vile hatred you are spitting at everyone. Wikipedia wont tell you look deeper.
They haven’t been making any effort to promote the most obvious, common-sense measures to control the spread. They’ve ridiculed those who do. This has resulted in widespread irresponsible behavior which is having very serious consequences. Thousands of lives will be lost that need not be lost, and the economic damages will be much worse than they ever needed to be.
Reality, as of October 27, 2020: U.S. Coronavirus Cases Surpass Summer Peak And Are Climbing Higher Fast
@Greg:
Where is joe?
@Greg:
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@Greg:
President Trump now leads in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Florida and Georgia
@July 4th American, #17:
Over 226 thousand Americans are now dead of COVID-19. The actual number may be higher, as excess deaths now exceed 300,000 for the year. New infections are rising so fast in numerous parts of the country that we’re in danger of reaching exponential spread. Trump is leading us directly toward a national disaster.
@Greg:
While you report with glee how the Chi-Com flu cases are increasing, you never mention the hospitalization rates, and the reason for that is clearly obvious as you on the left have made a virus imposed on the world by China, into a political issue instead of a health issue.
If the current wave of Chi-Com flu is as bad as it was in the late spring, shouldn’t the hospitalization rate follow that same trend? But it doesn’t and you don’t want to talk about that. You want people in fear, so in fear they will ignore their Constitution rights that you on the left really want to abolish. Along with being nothing more than a propagandist for the left, you are a fear monger.
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html
Be sure to check out the weekly stats.
You’re an idiot. A Commie idiot, but an idiot just the same.
@Greg: Only the most insane blame Trump for what Biden admitted, a bio attack, so clever for the chicoms to drop super secret utubes of Chinese dying in the streets you even linked to them. Slick way to shut down entire western economies with fear. Then amazon sells tons made in China crap while our non essential factories and stores are closed.
The flat earth science of masks isnt working where they are mandated. Go shiver in fear, but leave the people who dont want to live under the boot you crave alone, go peddle it elsewhere.
An estimated 52 percent of car accidents occur within 5 miles of a person’s home, and 77 percent occur within 15 miles or less so you travel 16 miles to the store, such is your logic.
joe biden is a sock puppet for the Chinese Communist Party
joe biden supports communist China killing Americans
@kitt: @kitt:
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
All this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood is born from their desire to destroy the white race… Harvey Weinstein? Jeffrey Epstein? Roman Polanski? Barney Frank? Adam Schiff? Jarold Nadler? Ghislaine Maxwell? Marina Abramović?.
The Jewish Pioneers of Sexual Degeneracy in 1920s Berlin… https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/06/the-jewish-pioneers-of-sexual-degeneracy-in-1920s-berlin/
@Greg:
Why did joe biden shower with his daughter and molest her in the shower?
@Greg:
How much did the communist Chinese pay joe biden to blame President Trump for the Kung flu?
@Chigna Tu Madre:
What the hell is your deal asshole?
@July 4th American: @Greg:
Mehr gefälschte nachrichten…
@July 4th American:
Germans are the largest ethnic group in the USA.
I’m German first . . . American citizen second.
@Chigna Tu Madre:
You sound like a real kook. Maybe you are an aryan Nationalist.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
All this destructive Jewish propaganda in Hollywood is born from their desire to destroy the white race… Harvey Weinstein? Jeffrey Epstein? Roman Polanski? Barney Frank? Adam Schiff? Jarold Nadler? Ghislaine Maxwell? Marina Abramović?.
The Jewish Pioneers of Sexual Degeneracy in 1920s Berlin…
@Greg:
@retire05, #19:
What don’t you understand about the CDC graph that you just linked? Are you somehow under the impression that it shows an improvement in anything?
October 27, 2020 – COVID-19 deaths on the rise in the U.S., as hospitals fill up at alarming rate
Curt,
Pretty crass moniker he has there. F**k your mother? Really? Perhaps a crass person like him would be happier at some other website where his crass is appreciated.
@July 4th American:
I had SS tattooed on my neck the day after I resigned my commission . . . was a true believer in the cause the whole time I was in the army.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
So, if you want to molest my white children or give them drugs, I got something for ya.
Sounds like the only issue left for the biden campaign to talk about is the Kung flu.
@July 4th American: He is barking up the wrong tree he wont find any nazi sympathizers here, nor those blind to the pollution of marxism that runs rampant. He needs a scape goat a boogyman just like those that want to put a boot on our necks. He is scared no one has called him a liar, he isnt being helpful in the struggle by ranting about the jews. Monsanto and Bayer a match made in hell.
You know who isnt frightened by that boogeyman, D J Trump.
Nazi’s – leftist
KKK- leftist
Marxists- leftist
Antigua- leftist
BLM- leftist
The Democrats have spent 75 years trying to equate Nazi with Republican. Not happening. Notice, National Socialist Party= Nazi.
Greg you’re a Nazi. As far as that other idiot spewing white nationalist horseshit, there is no cure for idiocy.
IF the Chinese commies wanted to hurt America with a disease, they would design a disease that killed people in their prime or children.
Both of those types of diseases have a huge psychological cost among those unaffected.
Covid, on the other hand, hurts the elderly and already sick while younger adults and children skate.
If it were not for a rabid leftist media whipping up a frenzy of panic and lefty governors costing Americans jobs and freedoms, this would be seen as it is, a mild type of viral flu.
Covid is a Chinese-originated disease, but it was not designed to hurt America.
We did that to ourselves via Lefty media and pols who don’t care what it costs to make Trump look bad.
@Nan G: The left is always this nation’s worst enemy.
Did everyone catch what happened after the Dodgers won the World Series?
covid positive Justin Turner celebrated right with the rest of his team!
They are not cowering in fear over getting this virus.
Once you get it and recover, you are immune, probably for life.
President Trump offers a return to normalcy.
Joe Biden is so scared of getting covid he is willing to promise to shut down the entire country just to be protected from covid personally.
Some on his own campaign staff opine that he would NOT move into the White House because of fear it has the virus.
Let people who are at risk of dying because of a covid infection protect themselves, Biden included.
@Nan G: GDP up 33.1%. Buyden couldn’t do that.
@Deplorable Me: Amazing considering that California and NY were on lock down.
Germany and France going into lock downs are affecting the market here, what better reason to become more self sufficient economically.
How did Trump cause those virus surges?
Mask mandate
The Big guy wants national mandates cause climate science or something.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29/these-12-graphs-show-mask-mandates-do-nothing-to-stop-covid/
@kit: What’s Biden’s plan for controlling the virus in Europe? Funny, HIS plan, he says, is to eliminate the virus. How he is going to do that, though, is unclear as clearly masks and shutdowns don’t eliminate it and Biden has come out against any vaccine that began its development under Trump. I guess just by the power of incoherence Biden will defeat the virus.
Biden’s anti-Trump political ad with the “doctors” saying they took it seriously in the middle of January is utter bullshit; China and WHO didn’t finally fess up that it was transmissible between humans until the middle of February. Democrats called Trump a dictator and denounced all his measures until mid March when they polled what resonated with ignorant voters best. Buyden’s big plan is simply to lie.
Idiots believe in and vote for this crap.
@Deplorable Me:
Hell, what’s Biden’s plan for controlling the virus here? His website only mentions what Trump is already doing, plus hiring 100,000 to “contact trace”, i.e. violate your privacy.
You never really kill a virus. You neuter it by weakening it. The polio virus still exists, as does H1N1, Ebola, et al. The host becomes stronger than the virus. Bargain Basement Joe is a joke that is being pranked on the entire nation. Remember, he admitted it yesterday, he’s just Camel-La’s running mate.
Biden says Trump has been a disaster on foreign policy. What would Bargain Basement Joe do? Undo all the Middle East advances made by Trump? He says he will bring American jobs back from China, after he sold out to China. He had 47 years to do something for minorities. Now he’s going to do what?
Read his website. It is a case history in vagueness.
@retire05: Biden has shown what he would do. He would send plane-loads of cash to an Islamic Terrorist state to bribe them to calm down long enough for them to get out of office and create chaos and violence across the Middle East and North Africa instead of peace.
Joes plan is to get the technocrats that will back a socialist style take over, experts that tout shut downs mandates that make things worse then mandate a vaccine, with full protections for big Pharma from nasty side effects, such as death or worse.
The propaganda of the vaccines are the only path back to freedom is as false a siren call as masks stop the spread.
@kitt: His plan is the same as when he was a part of the Obama regime. Screw things up, make a killing in corruption and rely on the corrupt liberal media to cover his tracks. What do you bet that under Biden, the CDC would suddenly become much more careful and judicious, even cautious, about who is listed as having died of COVID19?
@Deplorable Me: The last epidemic they simply stopped counting the cases with the excuse we already know it is an epidemic whats the point. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations. When you stop monitoring its hard to say how many really died from it.
This virus is targeted at those that would be a burden on socialized medicine. Old, underlying conditions ect.
@kitt: Of course, at that time the Democrats didn’t have an opponent trashy enough to politicize an epidemic and exploit it politically. There was no one with such a total lack of integrity, honor and morals to blame every death on Obama because that would have been ridiculous and vile.
Of course, Democrats behave a bit differently now, out of desperation. There is NOTHING appealing about what Biden could do as President so, in true totalitarian character, they have to try and make Trump appear worse than Biden. Only the idiots fall for this… but there seem to be a lot of idiots.