The Trump virus (no, the real one) may be about to strike

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By now you’ve heard that Nancy Pelosi is describing the Chinese Wuhan CCP virus as the “Trump virus.”  Well, there may really be a Trump virus and it might just be about to strike. This one could induce fever, chills and anxiety. It also might induce jail time. On Twitter it was alleged that Mark Meadows is predicting “imminent” arrests. No vaccine is going to help.

It’s about time.

We here have long been asserting that Obama and his minions in the FBI and others spied on Trump and now concrete evidence is finally seeing the light of day. You will remember that James Comey took copious notes of every meeting he had with Trump which was way out of the normal process. He wasn’t briefing Trump as he testified- he was interrogating Trump. Many in the Trump campaign were being interrogated. The plot to remove Trump was underway in early 2016 but was in earnest by Aug. 15:



On Aug. 15, 2016, Peter Strzok texted his lover @NatSecLisa about his “insurance policy” against Trump.

On Aug. 16, Strzok opened an FBI investigation against Flynn.

On Aug. 17, Strzok sent an FBI agent to stage a fake briefing to spy on Flynn and Trump.

Trump and Hillary, candidates for President, were supposed to receive defensive briefings from the FBI only the FBI used the opportunity to spy on Trump and set up Michael Flynn.

In one of the documents declassified and released on Wednesday, FBI supervisory Special Agent Joe Pientka wrote that he deliberately used the briefing to “actively listen for topics or questions” from Trump “regarding the Russian Federation.” Rather than provide the Trump campaign a specific warning that certain campaign principals were being targeted by Russian intelligence, the FBI instead gave a general, non-specific warning that foreign intelligence services might eventually target the campaign.
Pientka’s written summary of the briefing noted that Trump, Michael Flynn, and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie were the only three Trump campaign members in attendance. Christie’s attendance had not previously been disclosed. The August 17, 2016 meeting came the day after the FBI opened a formal counterintelligence investigation against Flynn and just two days after FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok texted his former lover, FBI attorney Lisa Page, about an “insurance policy” he had designed to keep Trump from becoming president.

This followed the infamous Strzok text:

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy [McCabe]’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Strzok texted Page on August 15, 2016. “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40….”
The very next day Strzok opened an investigation of Flynn then used the pretext of a defensive intelligence briefing to collect intelligence on both Flynn and Trump on August 17.

Why Flynn?

Flynn would have learned very quickly what was happening to the Trump team, i.e. the illegally premised FISA warrants on Carter Page and more. He had to be taken out.

The meeting was conducted by Joe Pientka as noted. Pientka testified to OIG Horowitz that his effort was to “gain assessment and possibly have some level of familiarity with [Flynn].” As in, something he could use to impeach Flynn

Pientka told the OIG that he was selected to attend on behalf of the FBI so he could “record” or “overhear” from Trump, Flynn, or Christie “any kind of admission” that they were colluding with the Russian government to steal the election from Hillary Clinton. Pientka also added that he wanted to get a baseline impression of Flynn’s “overall mannerisms” in case he needed to later use that information against him.

Pientka would later interview Flynn in the White House. Comey sent him over to the White House, bypassing the proper channels. It was a perjury trap, interviewing Flynn about his call to Russian Ambassador Kislyak.

“We just decided, you know, screw it,”

Comey decided to screw Flynn. At first Flynn was cleared, but months later was charged with perjury. It seems likely that the Flynn 302’s were altered to accommodate the charges.

After the ambush meeting Pientka’s notes were approved by FBI Attorney Kevin Clinesmith, who altered an FBI official document to make Carter Page appear not to be a confidential informant for the FBI when in fact Page had a long history of working with the FBI.

Newly released notes from Peter Strzok showed that the Pulitzer prize winning story written by a crack NY Times team was utterly and completely false.

“We have not seen evidence of any individuals affiliated with the Trump team in contact with [Russian Intelligence Officials]. . . .

We are unaware of ANY Trump advisors engaging in conversations with Russian intelligence officials,” former FBI counterespionage official Peter Strzok wrote of the Feb. 14, 2017 New York Times story “Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence.”

That story, which was based on the unsubstantiated claims of four anonymous intelligence officials, was echoed by a similarly sourced CNN story published a day later and headlined “Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign.”

And that’s not all

As for the merits of the explosive New York Times story alleging repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials before the election, Strzok said it was “misleading and inaccurate… no evidence.” Of the unsubstantiated claim that former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was on the phone calls with Russian intelligence officials, Strzok said, “We are unaware of any calls with any Russian govt official in which Manafort was a party.” And of the New York Times claim that Roger Stone was part of the FBI’s inquiry into Russian ties, Strzok said, “We have not investigated Roger Stone.”

This was the basis for four years of democrat lies, smears and innuendo. it begs a couple of questions-

  1. Will they give the Pulitzer back or will this remain one more stain on the prize?
  2.  Who leaked this false information to the Times?
  3.  Will democrats apologize for putting the country through hell?

This proves conclusively that Donald Trump was spied upon and that Michael Flynn was framed. It is the greatest political conspiracy in the history of this country. Hopefully punishment of the guilty will fit the crime appropriately. As much as anything, I want to see Comey behind bars.

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Your effort to smear your enemies with the sh-t of such a story has no bearing on who Donald Trump is and why he must be removed from office.

Don’t forget to wash your hands.

@Greg: Check out Turley’s assessment on the Federal law. He is a Democrat and has evaluated the Federal authority in protecting federal property. If you could read greggie the rock instead of just cut and past what others write maybe you would not make an ass of yourself when you post here unless that is your purpose,

@Greg: Remember greggie the rock, you and your buddies tried that once and now all of the “insurance” documents are coming out that shows all of the illegal efforts you democrats did.

Trump’s people who have been indicted number at least 11
Do you think a DC jury will convict an anti Trump defendants?
Lol
Look how long you have been having fever dreams about Clinto indictments

@Randy:

you would not make an ass of yourself

When Comrade Greggie speaks, the Hanes get soiled.

@Greg:

Don’t forget to wash your hands.

Don’t forget to vote, in 2024.

@Greg:

Trump has set himself above the law and misused the powers of his office to evade the consequences.

Source?

Proof?

More partisan rhetoric. Easily dismissed.

Some people have dismissed a great deal. Others have not.

July 26, 2020 – Biden holds daunting lead over Trump as US election enters final stretch

One hundred days before the presidential election, Joe Biden has built a commanding and enduring lead over Donald Trump, whose path to victory has narrowed considerably in the months since the coronavirus pandemic began.

The president’s fortunes appear increasingly tied to the trajectory of a public health crisis he has failed to contain, with the death toll past 145,000 and the economy in turmoil.

A Washington Post-ABC News poll this month showed Biden far ahead of Trump, 55% to 40% among registered voters. That contrasted with March, when Biden and Trump were locked in a near tie as the virus was just beginning to spread.

The same poll found Trump’s approval ratings had crumbled to 39%, roughly the same share of the electorate that approved of his response to the outbreak while 60% disapproved. Especially troubling for the president are a new spate of polls that suggest he is losing his edge on the economy, formerly Biden’s greatest vulnerability.

“It is very hard to envision a scenario where you can make an argument for the president’s re-election if unemployment is well over 10% and there’s no sign that the pandemic is under control,” said Michael Steel, a Republican strategist who was an adviser for Jeb Bush’s 2016 presidential campaign.

“The political environment and the economic situation could look very different 100 days from now, but if the election were held today, it is very likely that the former vice-president would win – and pretty substantially.”

Surveys show Biden ahead in a clutch of battleground states that secured Trump’s victory in 2016, including Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. A Quinnipiac University poll of Florida, seen as crucial for Trump, found Biden up by 13 points.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/26/donald-trump-joe-biden-us-election-polls

Biden holds daunting lead over Trump as US election enters final stretch

The Guardian, hardly an unbiased bastion of the media. Quoting the guardian is like quoting the daily kook or democrat underground. the guardian is taken about as seriously as the NY slimes.

@Greg:

July 26, 2020 – Biden holds daunting lead over Trump as US election enters final stretch

Uh huh.

Independents and Women Bail on Trump, Giving Clinton a Double-Digit Lead

The latest PRRI/The Atlantic poll shows Hillary Clinton building a double-digit advantage—after being locked in a dead heat two weeks ago.

Biden has no lead…at all…and you know it.

The polls are nothing more than Democrat-owned disinformation devices. They didn’t work in 2016, and don’t work now. The polls due not accurately sample. It’s fact.

Some people have dismissed a great deal

Yes. People like you are blind to the very public, very obvious fact that Trump has ‘ugh support and will win easily in November. It’s going to be such a one-two punch by all those people who are staying quiet due to loudmouth Leftists (like you) and jack-booted nazis like anitifa that you idiots still won’t see it coming.

@July 4th American: Its totally true all thats left to do is setup the system where the door auto locks if Joe gets too close to it. We wouldnt want to put out a silver alert for the President.
The lead is so vast most democrats and commies dont even have to vote just carry on tipping over statues, by then all that will be left will be the concrete garden gnomes and pink flamingos in peoples yards.
The Guardian polled their own readers majority of registered conservative Republicans as we know and 40 % of them are voting Trump.
Seems Trump is doomed. 😉

@Ronald J. Ward: First, Obama will go down in history as not only the weakest and most failed President, but also the most corrupt and anti-American. For anyone that can step outside the liberal propaganda bubble of lies, all the shrouding of Obama’s police stated spying and lying has been removed.

@Nathan Blue: Isn’t it amazing how AJ keeps dreaming up bizarre hypotheticals and then discussing them as if they were fact, then wonder when people will turn on Trump for it? It is a documented fact that Trump hasn’t shot anyone on 5th Avenue nor has he attacked any peaceful protesters. But, that’s how fools operate; they can’t find any actual behavior of Trump to hate him for, so they have to make something up and hate him for THAT. Like they “impeached” Trump for what Biden actually did.

Biden does not have a lead, and will not win the Presidency…even with a racist move to pick a POC woman (that’s actually going to cost him).

The Left-owned media has to keep up the myth that Biden is in the lead, with all the “polls”.

Hahaha.

Biden is racist, and supports armed rebellion against the United States of America. He’s unfit to hold any office at this point, and is the dying breed of white racist politicians that exploit blacks and others for their own monetary gain.

Too many Americans see now where the true racists exist: The Democrat Party.

@Nathan Blue:

For starters, I realize you reject any non-Fox, non-AON, or non-ultra unhinged part of the Trump propaganda machine and that you’ve been instructed by the head of the government to denounce any media outlet that reports anything the head of our government deems unfavorable. So while you automatically chant “fake news” at NYT, WAPO, and on and on (just as you’ve been instructed to do so), keep in mind that Breitbart and Rush Limbaugh aren’t going to tell you these things.

This ain’t 2016. People don’t hate Biden the way they did Hillary. Hancock County in KY is solid union worker with aluminum, paper, and automotive supply industries up and down the Ohio River. Every single precinct voted Trump. I can tell you that the conversation has changed as Trump has stabbed labor in the back. People, particularly suburbanites, were willing to give an outsider a chance. No more. Even evangelists are souring.

You don’t use polls as a barometer (unless they favor you agenda) but other indicators have the GOP in a panic. Dems are shattering Rs in fundraising, Major donors are pulling away from Trump while others are contributing heavily to Biden. AZ and TX are indeed turning blue. Even The Reagan Foundation has demanded the RNC to quit fundraising under their name. FL is now engulfed in COVID and other R controlled states are following.

The big kicker is the economy, stupid. It’s going down in flames, again. This is something voters really look at it’s a major player. And what’s obvious is that Trump is not only clueless, but he seems to have even given up. People are on to the scam and realize they’ve elected an incompetent mafia figure thug that has, and never had any interest in their well being.

This ain’t 2016. This is more like a 2018 on steroids.

@Ronald J. Ward: All of you statements just sum up to “Orange Man Bad” and you constantly project, unaware you are the hateful, ignorant bigot you think you are fighting against.

I don’t watch or consume any of the news sources you inanely invoked, so I don’t know what straw-man you’re talking to. I do see Fox on occasion…right next to CNN on the TVs at the gym.

You obviously don’t think as critically or deeply as I do, favoring easy off the shelf answers from your echo-chamber leftwing nutjob news sources.

The Left/Dems have no platform. They have no cause, and they have no reason for me to vote for them. I would, and have. Sorry to break your narrative.

Right now, the Left/Dems are offering a senile racist candidate who is hiding, and the propaganda is to pretend he’s leading and has more money and blah blah blah.

The false pretense that there is movement or excitement with this guy.

There isn’t.

Republican States have done better with COVID than Democrats states. That’s a fact.

The economy is down because of an intentional shutdown, one that Trump did at the protests of your Democrat gods including Biden himself. That’s going to play well in campaign videos, stupid.

Trump’s plain and very factual successes while in office can’t be erased by your garbage left-wing media outlets. It’s just not working.

You have absolutely no idea how complete his victory will be in November. EC, and the Popular Vote. The signs are so clear.

Let’s see….Dems say Trump is so bad, but:

1. Their candidate wanted to keep America open and said Trump was wrong for closing – incompetence proven on that one.
2. Their candidate was caught on tape breaking the law, but they thought they could impeach Trump for…uh…something like that…because he started to uncover how paid off the Democrat Party is, and how corrupt.
3. They fomented riots and let black children get killed…because they wanted to protect black people.
4. They want to re-institute segregation.
5. They want to abolish police.
6. They have no platform beyond simple Marxism.
7. They accuse you of doing what they just did, to the nines.
8. They have to lie every day about Trump, literally standing next to his successes while proclaiming he failed.

Yeah…I could go on…but no need.

Trump wins the EC and Popular vote, no problem. There’s no one else to vote for. Biden isn’t a real candidate and everyone knows that.

@Ronald J. Ward: Oh, and thank you for parroting this week’s headlines according to Left-Wing propaganda talking points. I can see how critical thinking and actual analysis escapes you.

Just stick to designing circuits, little guy. I know the world is too complex for your freshman logic 101-course mind.

@Deplorable Me: If AJ was capable of real discourse, then great; we could converse. Instead he’s of the mind that parroting his spoon-fed propaganda is somehow “sticking it to Trump/Conservatives” here at FA.

He doesn’t understand that the root of why his ideologies and political affiliation is part of a shrinking minority. They have to keep screaming louder to obscure the fact that fewer and fewer people are supporting Biden and Democrats.

People are waking up from the Left-wing indoctrination, but sadly Ron/AJ isn’t one of them. He won’t understand the morning after when Chris Coumo cries on TV delivering the inevitable news of Trump’s massive re-election victory.

@Nathan Blue:

I don’t watch or consume any of the news sources you inanely invoked, so I don’t know what straw-man you’re talking to. I do see Fox on occasion…right next to CNN on the TVs at the gym.

I often try (and have tried here) to pull information on precisely where and how people attempting to engage in political arguments acquire their news. I generally don’t get a coherent answer because they themselves probably know how bias their sources are.

What today’s radical and unhinged followers of Trump have done is to create an alibi to disregard facts and reality, even clinging to the “alternative facts” notion when all else fails. If you make a football bet with one of your gym buddies and you lose, do you deny the game results because the were reported on CNN or the NYT? Do you claim to have won because you haven’t seen the results but rather just caught a brief segment of ESPN in passing?

Likewise, do you denounce my BusinessInsider link which reports major donors bailing on Trump? Is that not a true statement. I know you’ve been instructed to cover your eyes to the NYT but do you deny their links to Opensecrets or other public records political fundings? Are they lying to us about the COVID spike in FL. Is the economy on “solid ground”. Have the political winds shifted since 2018 and now favor Trump rather than what most Republican candidates and political observers are sounding alarms about?

If you know otherwise, how did you know? By what or how did you form your conclusions? Gut feeling? I think someone here once responded it came for “observing their surroundings”.

What your denial of news reporting is doing is allowing you do dodge reality, just as it would for you to weasel out of paying off a sports bet because either you didn’t believe the reporting results or you cover your ears and say you never saw it.

@Nathan Blue:

FiveThirtyEight founder Nate Silver said on ABC’s “This Week” that while President Trump’s reelection bid is “clearly in trouble” due to his dismal coronavirus approval ratings and polling in swing states, he does not believe the president’s “fate is sealed.”

Why it matters: There are 100 days until the election and the warning signs are flashing bright red for Trump. Eight in 10 Americans said in an AP-NORC poll released Sunday that the country is heading in the wrong direction — more than at any other point during Trump’s presidency.

The big picture: That same poll found that just 32% support Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, including only 68% of Republicans. But as Silver points out, a major breakthrough in the vaccine race or a sudden economic recovery could change the situation.

What he’s saying: “We found historically that when there are lots of major news events and economic disruptions, an election becomes harder to predict,” Silver said.

“So while he’s clearly in trouble, I do not buy that Trump’s fate is sealed. A lot could change in the next 100 days — things could get worse, still, for the president.
“But a turnaround in the COVID situation by the fall could make the election more competitive.”

@Ronald J. Ward:

Likewise, do you denounce my BusinessInsider link which reports major donors bailing on Trump?

Business Insider, a source used frequently by Comrade Greggie, is a left wing site. As a matter of fact, all your links are “left” leaning. You link to the NYSlimes that has published false information since the 1930s and the Washington (Com)Post just settled with Nick Sandmann being awarded tens of millions of $$$ due to their false reporting and slandering a 16 year old boy.

Your practice of making up hypotheticals and then accusing conservatives of supporting those hypotheticals is laughable. Frankly, you need a better writer as your posts are just comic relief.

@Ronald J. Ward: ***

Also from Nate Silver, in 2016.

Guess that makes anything Nate Silver says about the state of the 2020 election…meaningless.

Biden isn’t an actual candidate. He can’t win.

So…Leftwingers have to distract from that with polls and other ancillaries just to keep themselves from realizing the election is already over. It classic distraction pathology.

All they have is disinformation and gaslighting. They’ve already lost and they know it.

@Ronald J. Ward: ABC… propaganda.

@Nathan Blue:

Nate Silver has been the most accurate and most credible of any pollster. Ever.

You still come up short on what you base your argument on, other than of course, your deep seeded hatred and clinging to unhinged conspiracy theories.

So basically, all you present is your word, the opinion of a rabidly dishonest and unhinged racist sock puppet who plays a regular character on a dishonest and racist Trump cheer-leading propaganda site. Those are indeed some interesting credentials.

@retire05: Trump is the best thing that has happened to business in 30 years. Businesses are just like many others. Because the left keys cars with MAGA stickers, beats up old people with MAGA hats, and destroys property of Trump supporters and most recently in WI, killed a black Trump supporter business and people who support trump do not make public support statements. That was apparent during the last election. Businesses say and do what they need to do to get buy unless they have very deep pockets.

@July 4th American, #59:

The Guardian, hardly an unbiased bastion of the media. Quoting the guardian is like quoting the daily kook or democrat underground. the guardian is taken about as seriously as the NY slimes.

I’ve noticed many Trump supporters say that about any source that doesn’t tell them what they want to believe.

@Randy, #77:

Trump is the best thing that has happened to business in 30 years.

His failure to recognize and respond appropriately to the COVID-19 threat has resulted in a second wave of infection that will likely be disastrous for thousands of small businesses.

@Randy:

Trump is the best thing that has happened to business in 30 years.

That’s more disinformation and propaganda promotion, Trump enablers simply selling the lies and nonsense instructed to them by their handlers. It is not supported by the BLS, the numbers people who Trump lies about the data from. Trump wasn’t even up to par in his 1st 3 years as Obama was in his last 3 years.

In fact manufacturing was retracting even prior to COVID. It declined Aug of 2019, Sept 2019, Oct 2019, up slightly in Nov 2019 but only due to 42,000 GM workers returning after ending their strike, and down again in Dec 2019. In the meantime, the deficit had climbed to unseen heights. That’s just the facts my friend, what really really happened. Trump told us it was great but Trump did as he always had, lied. And fools like you swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

Perhaps you’re referring as “businesses” as Wall Street tycoons, top Trump donors, and the 1% of the wealthiest? Yes, they did well, at our and the economy’s expense.

@Greg: Yes greggie the rock and those sources demonstrated their integrity by failing to predict the 2016 election results. Weren’t they also invited to the Clinton party that never happened?

@Ronald J. Ward: Well, rw, shows how much you know about business in the us. Maybe you should look much closer on small business, and the small CAP stocks on the big board. Every retirement fund grew the last 3 years by 8-10% due to the trade deals and reducing regulations. You must get your info from the nyt

@Greg:

I’ve noticed many Trump supporters say that about any source that doesn’t tell them what they want to believe.

Have you also noticed that most “journalists”, especially the ones from the links you provide, are not presenting facts but following the Walter Lippmann philosophy of creating opinion in minds of the readers?

His failure to recognize and respond appropriately to the COVID-19 threat has resulted in a second wave of infection that will likely be disastrous for thousands of small businesses.

Yet the guy you support would have continued to let travel from China continue infecting even more Americans. We have China unleash a biological warfare on us and all you idiots on the left can do is blame Trump. This alone shows way no leftist should ever be in charge of anything.

@retire05, #83:

Have you also noticed that most “journalists”, especially the ones from the links you provide, are not presenting facts but following the Walter Lippmann philosophy of creating opinion in minds of the readers?

No. Nor have I noticed the Communist Menace that you continuously obsess about.

Yet the guy you support would have continued to let travel from China continue infecting even more Americans.

Do you recall 328 passengers from the Diamond Princess—14 of which are known to have been infected with COVID-19—being flown back to the U.S.in February, and then turned loose at LAX to find their own ways home? All by command of Trump’s State Department, over the vehement protests of the CDC?

Neither Biden nor any other Democrat had anything to do with that. They weren’t publicly proclaiming that everything was under control. At no point have they done so.

@Greg:

Do you recall 328 passengers from the Diamond Princess—14 of which are known to have been infected with COVID-19—being flown back to the U.S.in February, and then turned loose at LAX to find their own ways home? All by command of Trump’s State Department, over the vehement protests of the CDC?

Actually greggie the rock, you are a damn liar. It just so happens that a dear friend of mine was on that cruise. She and her husband were treated quite well and did get to visit Travis AFB for several months. They had transportation not at their cost back to Honolulu. This just shows again how ignorant and biased you are. You really do have the brains of a rock!

@Randy:

Comrade Greggie is like a brick when it comes to left wing “news.” You know what happens to a brick when you pour water on it? It absorbs the water weakening it.

@Greg:

His failure to recognize and respond appropriately to the COVID-19 threat has resulted in a second wave of infection that will likely be disastrous for thousands of small businesses.

Um…. no. Massive and widespread left wing protests, riots and looting, still going on today, caused spike. It’s debatable if that was the intention or not, since there was NO reason for the riots and protests; they were all instigated by the left over a false premise.

@Ronald J. Ward:

In fact manufacturing was retracting even prior to COVID. It declined Aug of 2019, Sept 2019, Oct 2019, up slightly in Nov 2019 but only due to 42,000 GM workers returning after ending their strike, and down again in Dec 2019.

I see no supporting data provided by you. However, I have data.

Manufacturing jobs growing 714% faster under Trump than under Obama
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/01/04/312000-jobs-added-in-december-manufacturing-growing-714-faster-under-trump-than-obama/?fbclid=IwAR1s3i5VhVh7YRawtv8sh9WI2omil_wbb65nRfL25DuSOxnv_8NT0M6sSGU#7626c1745b50

Manufacturing jobs added since 2012
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One month of Trump, most manufacturing jobs in 6 years
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-08/trump-effect-adp-employment-surges-near-most-6-years-record-goods-producing-job-gain

Manufacturers coming to US
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tesla-panasonic-agree-pv-cells-buffalo-york-101926856–finance.html

@Deplorable Me: It appears there are many more rocks than just greggie.

Um…. no. Massive and widespread left wing protests, riots and looting, still going on today, caused spike.

July 1, 2020 – Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases

One hypothesis offered as a possible explanation is that the demonstrations led to increased social distancing; that the majority of people in cities most affected by protests stayed home more than they normally would, out of concerns about the civil unrest.

Maybe Trump will pitch the idea that flooding large areas with clouds of CS gas and pepper spray mist kill the COVID-19 virus. It certainly does encourage more people to wear masks.

@Greg: greggie the rock, you are much more than a liar and stupid. You are anti American. You have proven beyond a doubt that you know nothing, can not think and likely suffering from dementia. You even write like Biden speaks!

@Deplorable Me:

This might be you problem. You’re trusting republican politicians for your news. Chuck DeVore who wrote the Forbes article you linked is a Republican member of the California State Assembly. You may as well of said: “because Trump said so”.

The 2nd link has no sources to check other than tracing back to “michaelscomments” from GatewayPundit which has about the same credibility of coming from Floppingaces.net.

Your 3rd link of Panasonic bringing jobs is great news and I’m delighted of it. Thing is, that was announced in Dec 2016. Last I heard, Obama would be taking credit for that considering he left office Jan of 2017.

Dumbass

@Greg: Your “study” is a farce. NEVER do you see “social distancing” in the left wing mobs. They are crowded, tightly packed in streets and parks, screaming and yelling, and not all wearing masks. If you believe some people going to bars, restaurants and beaches caused the “spike”, then you cannot think any rational and logical person can believe these out of control violent, rioting mobs are not spreading the virus. All the economic pain paid by responsible citizens was erased by the irresponsible and intentionally destructive left wing terrorists.

@Ronald J. Ward: Perhaps your problem in understanding is that your failure to realize that the articles I provided did not happen in a vacuum (not the one that exists in your skull). In addition to the articles describing the economic growth the brilliant Obama predicted could NEVER return (never, as long as HIS economic policies were maintained, as Biden has pledged to do), we have the reality of the lowest unemployment in HISTORY, combined with rising (not falling, as under Obama) labor participation rates, showing people were actually going to work, not giving up ever finding a job again. Greater consumer confidence indicates Trump’s accomplishments are real as well. No small wonder Democrats and the left do nothing but all they can to destroy the economy and inflict MORE pain on US citizens.

And, you don’t have to put your signature at the bottom of your post. We KNOW who and what you are.

@Deplorable Me:

You always have a way of proving me correct.

Trump is a propagandist and con man, unashamed of continuing the most asinine and debunked lies. Trump enablers have become so use to it, no amount of reality will sway that.

You can deny BLS numbers and charts to promote Trump’s lies about his economic accomplishments. He simply inherited his predecessor’s success and has, like his business history, ruined it. And again, it wasn’t just the virus as the numbers prove. You can deny his guilt of his impeachment charges even though he admitted to it as did his defense team admit the “mountains of evidence”. You can deny his racism and corruption even though he now makes George Wallace and Nixon look like chior boys. You can pretend, as Nathan does, that his ratings are souring even though every political aspect points otherwise.

@Ronald J. Ward: You provide no data, nothing to back up your lying bullshit. I deny there was ever a crime to impeach, and the total lack of ANY proof provided proves that fact. I deny his racism and you nor anyone else ever providing an example of racism proves THAT point.

Speaking of “mountain of evidence”, where is all that evidence Schiff swore he had to prove Trump’s collusion with Russians? You and the rest of the liars conveniently forget about that. But I haven’t.

You make MY points for me.

@Deplorable Me:

You again admit to what I’ve said all along. You are in complete denial, even in denial of overwhelming evidence and proof. Facts and logic have no place in interfering with Trump worshippers protecting their Mango God.

@Ronald J. Ward: If there was any evidence or proof you could provide it. You don’t, so I know you don’t have it. You know I know and I know you know I know.

We also both know you depend solely on lies. It’s all out in the open.

@Deplorable Me:

Your “study” is a farce. NEVER do you see “social distancing” in the left wing mobs. They are crowded, tightly packed in streets and parks, screaming and yelling, and not all wearing masks.

Did you not understand what was said about the possible explanation? The reasoning isn’t particularly difficult.

If you believe some people going to bars, restaurants and beaches caused the “spike”, then you cannot think any rational and logical person can believe these out of control violent, rioting mobs are not spreading the virus.

The spikes only correspond with the protests in time. The locations of the spikes don’t strongly correspond with the places that have had the greatest protest activity. Nor is there a strong correlation between those active in the protests and and those who are testing positive.

Protest crowds are obviously NOT where anyone hoping to reduce COVID-19 transmission should be, masked or not. From a COVID-19 perspective, any crowded place is a place that should be avoided. But bars, restaurants, beaches, etc are almost certainly more responsible for the surges, because people going there are far more numerous and then interact with a wider range of people in their everyday activities.

Trump’s National Security Advisor just tested positive for COVID-19. How many does that now make, counting Trump organization event organizers, Secret Service personnel, and White House staff? I doubt if many have recently attended protests.

@Greg:

The spikes only correspond with the protests in time. The locations of the spikes don’t strongly correspond with the places that have had the greatest protest activity.

Most of the protesters are BUSED IN. They don’t live in the area. The time matches. The age group matches. The LOGIC matches. The motive to blame everything else for the spike so violent, chaotic, irresponsible riots can continue matches.

One, there is no desire by the left to reduce the impact of the virus on our economy. Two, using political terror to intimidate voters is a left wing mainstay. The two work hand in hand. The left doesn’t care about anything but political power and implementing oppressive socialism in this nation. ANYTHING good for the citizens the left wants to crush and blame the pain and suffering on Trump.

Most of the protesters are BUSED IN.

Those I’ve read comments by elsewhere have been in their own cities. Portland protesters are mostly from Portland and surrounding communities. The same with Austin. Why would people go someplace else to protest, when what offends them has been happening in their own cities?

It’s pretty clear who has been brought in from elsewhere, and it has escalated the situation enormously.

@Greg: Because they need NUMBERS. Last week they had another BLM demonstration here and most of the participants came from Dallas, not locally. It was peaceful and they stayed in their cars with the a/c on. But, this is Texas and that Portland shit ain’t gonna fly (as Foster showed).