John McCain lived a full life and had a storied career. It’s a shame he will be remembered for being part of a conspiracy to try to destroy a Republican candidate and ultimately President of the United States with Russian disinformation.
It was no secret that the two men disliked each other intensely. The animus is said to have begun in 1999 when Trump questioned McCain being a hero solely for being captured. I think that was harsh and unfair but that’s Trump. McCain did repay the kindness and then some.
McCain blocked repeal of Obamacare.
McCain became far more critical of Trump than he ever was of Obama
“Flattery secures his friendship, criticism his enmity,” McCain reportedly wrote, according to excerpts reviewed by the media. “It is hard to know what to expect from President Trump, what’s a pose, what’s legitimate.”
McCain also darkly hinted
“I’m being very nice. I’m being very, very nice. But at some point I fight back, and it won’t be pretty,”
The New Yorker published an article that asked:
How Far Will John McCain Go Against President Trump?
We know now just how far. McCain would actively participate in the Russian collusion conspiracy. After the FBI dropped Christopher Steele, John McCain was the courier delivering Steele’s Russian disinformation to James Comey
Late Senator John McCain provided disgraced former FBI chief James Comey with five separate reports from Christopher Steele that the FBI didn’t previously possess related to unsubstantiated allegations of collusion between Russia and President Trump’s 2016 campaign, the Justice Department’s recent Inspector General report revealed.
There have long been questions about why it was necessary for McCain to pass Steele’s anti-Trump dossier to Comey on December 9, 2016, several weeks after the November 2016 presidential election. By then, Steele had already met numerous times with FBI agents to provide them with his controversial reports. Steele, however, was terminated as an FBI source in the fall of 2016 because he spoke to the news media.
The IG report discloses that McCain gave five new Steele reports to Comey that the FBI did not previously possess, showing that McCain served as a conduit for Steele’s information to reach the FBI even after the British ex-spy was formally cut off as an FBI source.
It is not clear whether McCain knew at the time that Steele had previously been terminated as an FBI source.
The IG report also verifies that a McCain aid obtained the Steele reports directly from Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson, meaning that when McCain transferred the anti-Trump charges to Comey he had to have known that the material originated with a firm that specializes in controversial opposition tactics.
From the IG Report:
Several weeks later, on December 9, 2016, Senator John McCain provided Comney with a collection of 16 Steele election reports, 5 of which Steele had not given the FBI. McCain had obtained these reports from a staff member at the McCain Institute. The McCain Institute staff member had met with Steele and later acquired the reports from Simpson.
That McCain staff member was David Kramer, who would be the person to leak the dossier to Buzzfeed.
The dossier is in tatters. Virtually all of it has been debunked, which makes McCain’s later words worse:
In his book published last year, McCain maintained he had an “obligation” to pass the dossier charges against Trump to Comey and he would even do it again. “Anyone who doesn’t like it can go to hell,” McCain exclaimed.
If only McCain could have shown that same fire and motivation in his campaign against Barack Obama in 2008 instead of simply knuckling under and surrendering. He might have saved this country from Obama. He didn’t, but he did his best to stop Trump using Russian disinformation. Sadly, this is how McCain will be remembered
Trump was 100% correct about McCain. And McCain ultimately died as a treason committing politician.
It was the DNC plan to feed the disinformation from as many sources as possible so it would gain credibility.
John was either a fool or was fooled maybe both.
There is nothing wrong with having concerns. When McCain became aware of this information, he had the duty to turn it over to the FBI, and the FBI had the duty to research it. However, the crime is when the information is found to be flawed and without merit, continuing to traffic it and use it to infringe on the rights and privacy of innocent people. The crime is using known garbage to try and undo a legal election.
I disagree with Trump’s characterization of McCain’s service and maybe it was Trump’s fault McCain soiled himself in the nadir of his life, but he did and that cannot be denied. Anyone the liberals decide to celebrate has obviously disgraced themselves somehow.
Nevertheless, Trump is President, McCain was wrong and all those who support impeachment of Trump on the accusations now used are anti-American, anti-Constitution seditionists.
I feel sorry for daughter Meghan McCain.
Obviously John shielded her from his filth.
And now he’s gone she is getting exposed to it all full force.
She wants to keep his name as untarnished in public as it was in her personal knowledge.
She mourns excessively as a result of seeing him without the blinders he put on her.
And, it keeps getting worse.
McCain was never a hero to me…..many forget or never knew
McCain killed 134 American Sailors and severely injured anouther 161.
McCain, when a Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy was a Navy pilot (they call themselves aviators). July 29, 1967 while on the deck and in his plane on the carrier U.S.S. Forrestal he managed to screw up procedures (officially denied and covered up by him and the Navy. He did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a “wet start” up of his jet.
An besides the Forrestal, there was the crutches picture. Fraud all the way; McCain hurt his leg playing basketball after his release form North Vietnam.
One thing told me all I needed to know about mcstain-NONE of his former fellow pilots or shipmates campaigned for him. They knew exactly what he was.
@Beentheredonethat2: the fire was a terrible thing. i’ve seen evidence both ways as to what caused it. I personally believe McCain was involved. I served on the Forrestal prior to the fire, but was already discharged before the fire. I don’t know how I would have done in McCain’s case, having been shot down and severely injured when he ejected. He may have been out of his mind at the time he was in prison. I hope I would not have done what he did under those conditions, but thankfully I never had to find out. I certainly consider himself a traitor to his country in almost every way. I never saw him commit any political act that was not bad for the country. A total piece of garbage.
@Redteam: There has never been much information released on McCain. He prided himself ad a Maverick when he voted with the left. He likely voted that way because of what they had on him. He was their hero until he wasn’t.
John McCain was never an honorable man. He came home to a wife who had worked to get him, and fellow POWs, released of his captivity. He found a newer, and more valuable, model, dumping the woman who never gave up on him for years. He had no problem with his first wife standing by him but dumped her when she had a sever accident. The divorce caused McCain’s children to disassociate from him for years.
Then came the POW hearings in 1991 which I watched in their entirety. McCain who sat by his newly found friend, John Kerry, belittled and harassed the wives, sisters and mothers of those POWs who had not come home, then he rose from his seat and stormed out of the hearing room. All those women had was the hope that someday, someone like a fellow POW, would give them answers to their missing loved ones. All McCain gave them was grief.
Congressman Sam Johnson would never speak about John McCain. Ever. And did not back McCain in any way, shape or form. Sam Johnson paid for his time in captivity the rest of his life. Why would someone who had been a POW for almost seven years turn his back on another POW? Everyone who knows Sam knows why, the look on his face when asked about said all there was needed to be said.
How can you piss on the grave of a man like John McCain, while idolizing a total douche bag like Donald Trump? How did you manage to get this screwed up?
@Greg: Who idolizes Trump?
@Greg: I do not know what you did in the Army greggie, but it sure had ho honor. if you do not know the answer to your own question. McCain had no honor! Neither do you!
@Greg: What great thing did Mc Stain ever ever do? Trump has done more for vets and the military than McStain did in his entire life. No one here idolizes Trump he is a flawed man, loves his country and tries hard to keep the promises he made to his voters. We love that he makes lifetime politicians look so pathetic.
Funny thing how no significant history change of McCain’s honor and now all of a sudden you guys have to obey the rules of the Trump butt licking purity tests.
As far as his vote on ACA, you guys ever notice how Rs sweated bullets every time the SCOTUS was about to gut it? Or maybe how the GOP House voted like 58 times to repeal but didn’t have a R senate to send it to. That repeal without replace was returning pre-existing conditions and the other features voters have come to love? That the GOP backed off because of it’s popularity but had already promised prominent donors to kill it?
So could it be that the Rs were like the dog chasing a car and finally caught it with no clue what to do with it? Perhaps McCain, being in his condition was the dead man walking, actually helping the GOP save their sorry asses from themselves?
Ever think about that? Or is critical thinking in any form forbidden?
Funny how liberals stopped vilifying McCain when he turned on Trump. Before, he was a senile war monger. But, no one very accused a liberal of having any actual principles.
Comrade Greggie has said a number of times that he was in Vietnam. I asked him for which side.
@Ronald J. Ward: You sure are not very aware about what is going on in this world. You just seem to make stuff up! Maybe you should read a little about McCain’s history. Most people who voted for him for President was due to the lesser of the two evils. There is a code that military officers are supposed to live up to in order to maintain the respect of their peers. McCain violated that a long time ago. Maybe you could be more relevant in these conversation if you first read the topic of the discussion and maybe do a little research before you fill your mouth with both feet!
@Ronald J. Ward: Moron Party or Rs had nothing to do with it ,he promised his voters he would get rid of it he was a liar. His entire life as a hero was a fable. A New World Order anti American sovereignty asshole that met with terrorists in the ME. He was always a Globalist traitor.
@retire05: Greggie said he was in Viet Nam, you forgot to ask him WHEN? 2005 on vacation?
Yep and don’t forget racist, their favorite accusation.
File under The Ramblings of a Deranged Mind—also known as Trump’s Twitter Posts:
The thirteen witnesses who had DIRECT, FIRST HAND INFORMATION of your bullshit all defied lawful congressional subpoenas to testify under oath about what they know—because you ordered them to refuse. Your legal counsel was invited to participate in the House hearing, and you refused. Witnesses having DIRECT, FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of the situation have been requested to be subpoenaed to testify in the Senate and your willing tool McConnell is refusing, once again at your instruction.
@retire05: You’re exactly correct about McCain’s involvement in the POW situation in the 80’s and 90’s. a time when something might could have been done to recover more POW’s that had not been returned. But he totally turned his back on the issue, something no honorable person would ever have done. That made him the worst type of person in my eyes and most American’s eyes. He was just a total piece of garbage.
@Greg: Piss on his grave? that would be an honorable thing for Mc:Cain, he was about as low of an example of a human that a man could be. He pissed on his fellow POW’s, something none of them would have done to him. And he did it while sitting in the comfortable seat of the Senate. He did it to ensure that none of the prisoners that knew of his treason could come back to tell the story. He could not afford for the world to know of the things he had done. He wasn’t named the Hanoi Songbird for no reason
@retire05: I’m pretty sure Greggie was there alongside Blumenthal.
You’re full of sh!t. None of them defied testifying. They were under orders of the president to not testify. The house then had the right to go to court to force them, they Dimocraps chose to not do that. So they are directly responsible for them not testifying and did so because they knew it would expose them for their lies. Does it bother you to always be wrong about every single issue that comes up?
@Greg: File it under questions and thoughts many of us had as we saw the Schiff show unfold.
Classified information being revealed to a CIA guy who ran to Schiff like it was planned. The POTUS was bound to find out the corruption and theft of US aid led back to traitors and skimmers in our government.
You know who else had first hand information about the call? I did. So did you. So did Schiff. And Pelosi. And Nadler. We ALL did. We all saw the transcript. For some people, this showed what really happened. For others (you, for instance) it is merely ignored and contrived false accusations referenced instead.
You are either stupid or a liar; White House council was not invited to participate in the “hearings” until it was to the point where Democrat “legal experts” were expounding on what constituted impeachment, not the inherent weakness of relying solely on hearsay evidence.
McConnell has never said he won’t subpoena witnesses. He has said the Senate would view the evidence (some of it Schiff hasn’t even released yet!) and have a vote on whether or not witnesses and testimony is required… EXACTLY as were the proceedings during the Clinton impeachment, agreed to by EVERY Democrat in the Senate at that time. You can’t paint it differently; Pelosi is so embarrassed by her weak case that she cannot risk turning it over to anyone but a partisan Democrat controlled process. So, they are simply going to hold on to it and whine about “fairness”… something they have no concept of.
@Deplorable Me: I have been telling you he is stupid. Never thought he was a liar, but I guess that label must fit now.
@Randy: He has been presented the facts, so it is definitely one or the other. Plus, he admits he believes Hillary deleted 33,000 emails simply because they were about yoga, weddings and funerals, so this moves the needle towards the latter possibility.
his entire life was a lie. he is the excrement of human feces.
he was a small and vindictive man….he never could admit being wrong and he was wrong often….people would tell me his conservative voting rating was 90% or something ridiculous….the 10% he voted against conservative positions was DEVASTATING to our great nation. shame on him
@Randy: @Deplorable Me:
Why anyone here gives Greg the Red the time of day is beyond me. He’s a loud mouthed oxygen thief. Pay no attention and he’ll go away to seek attention somewhere else. Perhaps he can don his Che Guevara t-shirt and beret and pass out leaflets and pamphlets with a picture of Lenin’s bust on there telling the world how Communism is the only solution to the world’s problems.
@another vet: I always refer to him as greggie in small letters. I have not yet gone to the ASPCA to find a pet dog yet, so I play with greggie. I expect my dog will be much more intelligent and loyal to our country than greggie.
@Deplorable Me, #22:
Yes, but Trump’s followers for some reason seem to be totally oblivious to what’s wrong about it. It’s the same blind spot that prevents them from seeing that Trump is an inveterate liar, a cheat, a taker, a thief, and a confidence man.
I wonder about this a lot. He has certainly rallied the ignorant and the stupid, but I don’t believe for a moment that ignorance and stupidity are the common denominator, since most of his followers really aren’t. As near as I can figure, Trump is a one-size-fits-all answer to some deep-seated psychological need in people who believe the cards in the deck have been stacked against them, or who feel threatened by a cascade of changes in the world that they don’t understand and don’t feel prepared to cope with. He offers protection from and a means of retaliation against a laundry list of people, groups, ideas, and institutions that they’ve come to blame. His own nature and skills equip him perfectly to exploit all of that.
The irony is that Trump and those he serves are actually the powers who have stacked the deck. This sort of manipulation of the populace is how they have always managed to maintain wealth, power, and control. It always involves creating and widening divisions, and then turning those who might threaten their control against one another. Trump is a master of this. It’s what his every rally pitch and Twitter post is about. He’s their perfect tool.
I think we’ve become more susceptible as a nation because of the sudden appearance of the internet and social media, and because the generations that witnessed first-hand the rise of authoritarian fascist and communist dictatorships have largely vanished from the scene.
@Greg: Perhaps you didn’t notice, but you didn’t point out WHAT was “wrong” with it. The reason is simple; because NOTHING was wrong with it. Sadly, the same can’t be said of Biden’s extortion and then STUPIDLY bragging about it on video.
It was the laying out of the proposition: If you want my country’s military support and favor, you need to do me a personal favor. Talk to Rudy.
If those directly involved in the scheme had not been prevented from testifying, there would be absolutely no question about the nature of that proposition remaining.
Care to demonstrate otherwise? Call them to testify in the Senate. No doubt they can clear this whole silly business up and reveal Trump’s innocent intentions. There’s no reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to testify—unless, of course, Trump was doing exactly what he has been accused of.
@Greg: Take your factless, baseless conspiracy theory and use it as a suppository. You dont come with evidence of anything, how bout the OANN lawsuit, do you like Madcows defense?
Keep misquoting the conversation, really makes you look so authentic.
@Greg: Like all the “evidence” and “witnesses” the entire impeachment is based on, that is what YOU read into it. Nowhere, in any form or fashion, is that what was in the call OR what Zelensky got from it. Yet, Biden BRAGGED about his extortion, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, we know the outcome of that extortion, we know the concerns about Hunter’s seat on the Burisma gravy train expressed to the White House, we know about Burisma’s lobbying to get the investigation killed and we now know about the corruption subsequently found when the investigation was resumed… yet you deny all this.
Yes, I could have testified… in the House, had Democrats allowed opposition testimony. I had just as much first-hand, credible and verified evidence as the total of all the “witnesses” the Democrats called. Testimony in the Senate under Republican control would need to be a bit more substantive.
@Deplorable Me: Yep, stupid! Can not even read the transcript. He must have one of those programs that writes voice.
If Trump did nothing wrong, why has he ordered everyone who has first-hand knowledge of the situation and could clarify that to refuse to testify?
Seriously, folks, how can you not recognize so blatantly obvious a cover-up? How do you hide that from yourselves? It’s not being hidden from anybody else.
Democrats called 13 republican witnesses having direct, first-hand knowledge of what was going on, and Trump ordered every damn one of them to defy lawful congressional subpoenas. Don’t expect anybody to believe the bullshit that Democrats wouldn’t allow “opposition” testimony. The problem is that Trump doesn’t want those who know the truth to speak it. That’s not opinion. That’s what indisputably happened, with everybody watching. That’s what’s happening with the four requested Senate witnesses.
@Greg: Because what is happening confidentially in the White House is not the business of any lying, leaking, seditious Democrats. Are you saying that everything the Obama administration kept confidential was criminal?
The Democrats are trying desperately to keep THEIR corruption from being exposed. THAT’S why they blocked Republican witnesses and questions and won’t turn their weak, phony, biased, prejudiced impeachment over to the Senate without being granted full control of the process. Now, I ask you, if the Democrats think they really have a case for actual impeachment, WHY won’t they turn it over to the Senate? WHY hasn’t Schiff released ALL the testimony?
You base your beliefs on bullshit. That’s not a good plan.
Instead of conducting their hearings fueled by lies, they should have just read the transcript.
Why did Obama claim Executive Privilege and refuse to allow those from his administration to testify when it came to:
the New Black Panther voter intimidation investigation
refusing to allow the White House social secretary to testify at the investigation of White House party crashers
documents regarding Solyndra
documents and interviews from the Justice Department regarding how involved Elana Kagan was in advising Obama on Obamacare
refusing to allow David Simas to testify
blocking testimony of Ben Rhodes re: the Iran deal
refusing testimony and documents in the Fast and Furious hearings
If the Obama administration did nothing wrong, why the refusal to give Congress the documents and witnesses it requested?
You hid all Obama’s cover-ups from yourself. All you’re doing is projecting, again, Comrade Greggie.
@retire05: Well, that was the most ethical, transparent administration in history, so there was no reason to suspect any criminal activity.
Perhaps in the New Year the curse on America that is the person of Donald J Trump will be lifted, but I’m afraid there’s not much hope that his followers will ever recover.
@Greg: Obama and the Democrats have been the curse. Trump has been the cure.
I don’t expect any cures from a man showing early signs of dementia. Nor from Trump supporters who don’t recognize clear signs of danger when they see it.
@Greg: I am afraid next year will lead to much disappointment for you. Already no collusion, no pissing prostitutes, election tampering by the DNC, criminal evidence tampering by Comeys crew. Durhams investigation turned into a criminal investigation.
This is no joke you have been kept in the dark and fed bullshit by you sources.
Biden says he will need to be compelled to testify, the republicans will go the long route through the courts to check out his get rich quick scheme. from a million in debt to 14 million in assets in 5 years hmmmmm. It isnt just testimony Rudy got, he found a money trail.
Perhaps you would like to address the fact that you were hood winked by the left, especially the LawFare blog that you have quoted so many times (of course, never giving credit for using their comments)?
Remember back in March 2018 when LawFare blog stated:
“The central irony of the memo prepared by House intelligence chairman Devin Nunes, we now know, is that it tried to deceive the American people in precisely the same way that it falsely accused the FBI of deceiving the FISA Court. The key question going forward is whether the memo’s authors and sponsors will face any consequences for their dishonesty. If not, we can expect to see more of the same, with potentially dire results.”
On March 2, 2018 the LawFare group posted:
“The Nunes memo was dishonest. And if it is allowed to stand, we risk significant collateral damage to essential elements of our democracy,”
Now LawFare is having to eat a whole lot of crow with all that whine.
Almost all of your blatherings are simply projection on your part accusing the Right of doing what the Left is guilty of. It would be nice to see you admit you were wrong, and your left wing sources were wrong, just once.