The newest impeachment savior whistleblower

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The newest member of the “THIS WILL NAIL TRUMP” whistleblower series has been identified as Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman. He is said to be a Ukrainian refugee who did serve in the US military.  he currently serves as the director for European Affairs at the NSC.

He claims to have listened in to Donald Trump’s call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and became “concerned.”



On July 25, when the president called Zelensky to congratulate him on his party’s parliamentary victory, Vindman listened in on the call. He says: “I was concerned by the call. I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’ s support of Ukraine.” Notably, the transcript of the call suggests that Trump did not “demand” an investigation of the Bidens.

For the record, Trump demanded no such thing.

Vindman never brought his concerns to the President. he never even spoke to Trump.

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1188997858009243648

He did, however, have other activities

Laura Ingraham, on her show Monday night, read a portion of the New York Times report about the testimony of National Security Council Ukraine expert Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman. Vindman plans to testify that he objected twice to the president’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which Trump urged the foreign leader to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The host pointed to a specific line in the middle of the Times report that she thought was “buried” and “found it very interesting.”

“Because [Col. Vindman] emigrated from Ukraine along with his family when he was a child and is fluent in Ukrainian and Russian, Ukrainian officials sought advice from him about how to deal with Mr. Giuliani, though they typically communicated in English,” the line she highlighted reads.

She added, “Here we have a U.S. national security official, who is advising Ukraine while working inside the White House apparently against the president’s interest, and usually, they spoke in English. Isn’t that kind of an interesting angle on this story?”

Stephen McIntyre then asks the obvious question- who gave him permission to do this?

This is a pattern among White House diplomats

Makes you wonder who’s working for whom. Vindman’s ostensible concern:


 
This would result in Ukraine losing bipartisan support? More than, say, this?


 
Or more than this?


 
Seems to me that horse has long left the barn.

One thing Vindman has done is to corroborate the transcript

On July 25 , 2019, the call occurred. listened in on the call in the Situation Room with colleagues from the NSC and the office of the Vice President. As the transcript is in the public record, we are all aware of what was said.

The bottom line is that Vindman’s mischaracterization of what Trump said is troubling and certainly suggest a partisan motive.

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@retire05: Ciaramella was in the White House under Mc Master Im sure he has been investigated. Working with the CIA also needs an investigation.
Something tells me what is passable has changed since since Bush sr.

@retire05:

They also have a better command of English than the average Trump supporter, and Donald himself, which is certainly grounds for suspicion.

@Gus Aspromonte:

Go away, troll. We already have a full allotment of trolls here at FA and you’re not on the list.

@Gus Aspromonte: Not nearly as stupid as the smartest whining, crybaby, sore loser, spoiled brat, immature Democrat that thinks they can negate a legal election simply because their candidates all SUCK.

@Greg: This impeachment will go nowhere and you and your party are committing treason.

Hope you’re ready for the consequences.

It’s moving right along for something that’s going nowhere.

Do you think quid pro quo began even before the infamous Zelensky/Trump telephone conversation? Is there a connection between Giuliani’s trip to Ukraine, the javelin missile sale, and the Ukrainian investigation of Paul Manafort suddenly being dropped? Unlike Biden’s son, Manafort actually was under investigation in Ukraine. Manafort has been advising Giuliana on Ukraine from prison.

@Nathan Blue: This impeachment election meddling is an interesting wayfor the Democrats to commit suicide, everyone knows the senate will demand evidence not emotion, insanity and rumor before bothering with this nonsense.

@Greg:

Manafort has been advising Giuliana on Ukraine from prison.

Do you think he would go to the Podestas?
President Obama, his Vice President Biden and his son, Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, Mueller, the Podestas, the IMF and others all pillaged the Ukraine and then delayed loans to the country before forcing Ukrainians to pay grossly inflated natural gas prices. Now these vultures claim they are innocent.
I never had much sympathy for Mueller since he worked with the slime Podestas.
Knowing about the contacts since October with Giuliana I figure he is closing in hot on the scent of more filthy corruption from the previous administration, including the coup that ruined relations with the Russian republic.
No more Beto specials at gun stores….not sad.

@Greg: The quid pro quo began under Obama. Biden extorted Ukraine to stop an investigation into Burisma’s corruption, which would implicate his son and him, then Burisma gave Biden $900,000 as a little “thank you.”

The investigation of Manafort was based on the “black ledger” which has been proven to be a fabrication. But, what if Giuliani went to Ukraine and told them to kill an investigation or the US would cut off funds to them? That’s what Biden did and you are totally happy with it. Explain what is wrong with that hypothetical scenario when you find nothing wrong with the REAL incident.

Unlike Biden’s son, Manafort actually was under investigation in Ukraine. Manafort has been advising Giuliana on Ukraine from prison.

Unlike you, we discuss facts. No one says Hunter was under investigation; the company giving him $50K a MONTH because he was the son of a US VP was under investigation… and Joe FORCED them to KILL it. Provide your evidence Manafort is somehow advising Giuliani from prison… unless that is some kind of a Schiff “parody”.