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It’s not called “blind hatred” for nothing. A while back I wrote that democrats were opening Pandora’s box.  It is now open and they’re really, really not going to like what’s coming.

Last week, we learned that Susan Rice lied through her teeth:

On the same day, former National Security Adviser Susan Rice was interviewed by PBS’s Judy Woodruff and asked to respond to Nunes’ accusation that she had unmasked those Trump officials in the waning days of the Obama administration. Here is the exchange:

Woodruff: We’ve been following a disclosure by the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, that in essence, during the final days of the Obama administration, during the transition, after President Trump had been elected, that he and the people around him may have been caught up in surveillance of foreign individuals in that their identities may have been disclosed. Do you know anything about this?

Rice: I know nothing about this. I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that count today.

As we now know, Rice wasn’t surprised. At all.

Remember when James Comey denied that Trump was being wiretapped?

The FBI is investigating whether the Trump campaign colluded with a covert Russian operation to interfere with the election, FBI Director James Comey told Congress Monday — and he refuted the president’s baseless claim that his predecessor wiretapped his communications.

Comey’s confirmation in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that the Trump campaign was the subject of a U.S. counterintelligence investigationwas a revelation that could shadow the Trump presidency.

The FBI director also dealt the president’s credibility a blow when he said he “has no information that supports” Trump’s allegation from two weeks ago that President Obama ordered surveillance of his communications in Trump Tower during the campaign.

Only courts grant permission for electronic surveillance, Comey told lawmakers, and “no individual in the United States can direct electronic surveillance of anyone.”

Comey’s reputation is in tatters now.

Remember when James Clapper denied that Trump was being wiretapped?

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper denied on Monday that there were any wiretaps on Trump Tower during the 2016 campaign, and also revealed that the president-elect had asked him to publicly disavow a private investigator’s un-corroborated dossier on Trump circulating among journalists.

Clapper was responding today to a weekend tweet tirade by the President, who made unsubstantiated claims that former President Barack Obama had ordered a wiretap of Trump Tower during the election campaign.

“There was no wiretap against Trump Tower during the campaign conducted by any part of the National Intelligence Community,” Clapper, America’s top spy until January 20, told ABC News’ Brian Ross in an interview in Washington, D.C., “none at all…including the FBI”.

It’s important to pay close attention to what Clapper said:

CHUCK TODD:

Let me start with the President’s tweets yesterday, this idea that maybe President Obama ordered an illegal wiretap of his offices. If something like that happened, would this be something you would be aware of?

JAMES CLAPPER:

I would certainly hope so. I can’t say– obviously, I’m not, I can’t speak officially anymore. But I will say that, for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against– the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign. I can’t speak for other Title Three authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.

CHUCK TODD:

Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?

JAMES CLAPPER:

Yes.

CHUCK TODD:

You would be told this?

JAMES CLAPPER:

I would know that.

CHUCK TODD:

If there was a FISA court order–

JAMES CLAPPER:

Yes.

CHUCK TODD:

–on something like this.

JAMES CLAPPER:

Something like this, absolutely.

CHUCK TODD:

And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?

JAMES CLAPPER:

I can deny it.

CHUCK TODD:

There is no FISA court order?

JAMES CLAPPER:

Not– not to know my knowledge.

Curious. He could deny something like this exists, but there was no FISA order “to my knowledge.”

It must be kept in mind that Clapper is a documented liar.

His knowledge and his words, and Comey’s words are worth nothing. Donald Trump was wiretapped, under the guise of investigating Paul Manafort:

Washington (CNN)US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.
It’s useful to note something here:

Last year, Justice Department prosecutors concluded that there wasn’t enough evidence to bring charges against Manafort or anyone of the other US subjects in the probe, according to sources briefed on the investigation.

So now Robert Mueller is in desperate search of a crime in order to try to flip Manafort to say something incriminating about Trump or his family.

The defense of this wiretapping disclosure will be that Trump was not the target. He just happened to be caught up in it so they took advantage of it. For months. T

The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year.

That means Comey blatantly lied to Congress. Clapper lied to eveyone. Trump was surveiled and obama had to know.

And somewhere, Devin Nunes is smiling.

 

 

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the crapper clapper is a bogus POS. he was never fit to be cia director and ass kissing demorat to the radicalized terrorist obama. security reports are developed for specific parties. over the last 8 years the cia, fbi, and all intelligence servers sanitized report or politicalized reports of meet the specific request of the individual-fake intelligence is the key. brenner is an absolute pig and should be tried for treason.

Yes laughed at as a conspiracy theory as they screamed every leak over the air, Obama way too busy planning his next vacations to be informed pffft. But all for naught there is no Russian connection to Trump and Election tampering, thats what the DNC was busy doing, just giving Hillary a crown and Bernie a lake house. All the fake stories were suppose to put her in the White House she didnt need any other campaign strategy.
Thanks Mark Levin for bringing the real conspiracy to light, putting it together, then letting us laugh as CNN and MSNBC saw what damage they had done they were reporting spying, illegal unmasking, and the real tampering with democracy laid at the Obama administrations feet.

Where does Trump go to get his credibility back, after being falsely trashed by every news outlet and lying criminal Obama cohort?

@Angel Artiste:

Where does Trump go to get his credibility back, after being falsely trashed by every news outlet and lying criminal Obama cohort?

Trump has only lost his credibility among the ignorant, crybaby sore losers and they don’t value credibility anyway. Among loyal Americans, Trump’s credibility is doing just fine.

I wonder if the corrupt liberal media will ever learn to do some actual research before they attack one of Trump’s statements. I guess if they valued their own credibility, they might worry about it but since they are aware that their liberal audience KNOWS they are lying to them and simply don’t care, it really doesn’t matter.

CNN(Communists News Network) LIES.LIES,LIES,LIES,LIES,LIES,LIES,LIES, and owned by Red Ted Turner once married to Hanoi Jane who brainwashed kids with crap like Captian Planet and the Planeteers as well as Network Earth and who even had a hill bulldozed to the ground so he could view a distant mountian range and hosted those Good Will Games> I have not watched CNN in many years and yet CNN called trump stupid(So did the New York Slimes)over the Paris Accord then were calling themselves THE MUST TRUSTED yeah False and Misleading news just like we get from the main-stream news

Strange how the truth came out when it was in the interest of the Dimocrats. Seems as if they don’t realize it exposed their lies.

Here’s what Trump tweeted:

Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

First off, the FISA warrant on Manafort was first issued in 2014, and related to his dealings in the Ukraine. There was no Trump campaign at this time, Trump could not have been the target of this investigation as a political candidate — he wasn’t one then.

Second, for presidents before Trump at least, the FBI does not take “wiretap” orders from the President, and is committed to a thoroughgoing independence from any such influence (this is the reason why’s Trump’s attempt to obstruct Comey and FBI is so problematic — it’s a powerful form of corruption).

Third, nothing you’ve cited, or that’s been in the MSM supports Trump’s claim (and apparently yours by extension in this post) that Obama ordered anything related to this. Comey says (and you quoted this above, curiously) he has no information that Obama directed any kind of surveillance of Trump. If you have any evidence of this, you should present it, and become instantly famous.

Trump has “struck out” against what we know since he posted that Tweet.
1. There’s nothing to suggest Obama did anything in regard to this.
2. Trump Tower has not been substantiated as the context for any surveillance action against Trump.
3. “wires tapped”, even read generously to include any kind of message surveillance, has not been substantiated against Trump, where Trump is the target of the investigation. All of the capable agencies have denied it, including the FBI.

If you and fellow traveller’s here would like to console yourself with the claim that Trump getting captured indirectly in the net around Manafort is somehow tantamount to targeting Trump directly (never mind the nonsense about attributing this to Obama personally), suit yourself. But nothing’s changed with respect to Comey, the FBI or Trump’s fabulism as evinced by Tweets such as the above.

Trump did get caught on tape, so to speak, talking with Manafort under the auspices of Manafort’s FISA warrant (and I hope he did), there’s no validation in that for Trump’s tweet, or your post here. If we were to get a leaked audio file of calls Trump had with Putin directly or Lavrov about colluding on the 2016 election, that would be no more “targeting Trump” that it would be with Manafort. Trump is gangster. If he gets caught up in surveillance of people like Manafort, Sater, and Gorkov, that’s Trump’s problem, and one of his one making.

@LesPaul59_burst:

First off, the FISA warrant on Manafort was first issued in 2014, and related to his dealings in the Ukraine. There was no Trump campaign at this time, Trump could not have been the target of this investigation as a political candidate — he wasn’t one then.

Which was dropped, when no wrongdoing was found… then reactivated when Manifort became Trump’s campaign manager.

Second, for presidents before Trump at least, the FBI does not take “wiretap” orders from the President, and is committed to a thoroughgoing independence from any such influence

Yes, that is how it is supposed to work, but since we have seen that Susan Rice routinely unmasked Trump associates without any reason other than political and Rice was Obama’s go-to liar, it is clear that rules and laws were not necessarily something the Obama administration worried too much about.

(this is the reason why’s Trump’s attempt to obstruct Comey and FBI is so problematic — it’s a powerful form of corruption).

Comey was fired for incompetence, which has been clearly proven a fact.

Third, nothing you’ve cited, or that’s been in the MSM supports Trump’s claim (and apparently yours by extension in this post) that Obama ordered anything related to this.

No, we won’t find a certified letter over Obama’s signature saying, “go out and wiretap candidate Trump and help the floundering, corrupt, incompetent, lying criminal Hillary.” Experienced criminals are far too clever for that, just as we found no clear directives from Obama to utilize the IRS against political opponents, though that clearly happened. Obama’s fingerprints on THAT are clear by the non-investigation the FBI carried out and the total absence of accountability or punishment for anyone involved. Yet, as everyone who testifies says, these surveillance requests could not move forward without high-level awareness.

Trump has absolutely been vindicated and proven correct. Again.

@Bill… Deplorable Me:

Which was dropped, when no wrongdoing was found… then reactivated when Manifort became Trump’s campaign manager.

I can’t find reports that support this. The accounts I’ve read say that a) not enough evidence was found to bring charges, so charges weren’t brought. This is not to say no wrongdoing was not found. Ask your local prosecutor how this works if you don’t know the difference. For a FISA warrant, just like other warrants for surveillance, they are not indefinite in terms of time. If the state can’t show continuing reasons for expecting new evidence of wrongdoing, it can’t extend or renew the warrant. That does not nullify the evidence that was already captured, though, as we will see soon enough form Mr. Mueller.

Yes, that is how it is supposed to work, but since we have seen that Susan Rice routinely unmasked Trump associates without any reason other than political and Rice was Obama’s go-to liar, it is clear that rules and laws were not necessarily something the Obama administration worried too much about.

Niether of those has been shown, or supported at all. Rice recently testified about her unmasking requests before the House Intelligence Comittee, and according to, for example, this report:

But her explanation appears to have satisfied some influential Republicans on the committee, undercutting both Nunes and Trump and raising new questions about whether any Trump associates tried to arrange back-channel discussions with the Russians.
“I didn’t hear anything to believe that she did anything illegal,” Florida Rep. Tom Rooney, a Republican helping to lead the panel’s Russia invesigation, told CNN of Rice’s testimony. He declined to discuss any of the contents of her classified remarks.

I know, I know. Republicans are in on this conspiracy, giving Rice cover, etc. …

Rice provided her rationale for the unmasking request, and it seems solid to me:

The Obama administration felt misled by the United Arab Emirates, which had failed to mention that Zayed was coming to the United States even though it’s customary for foreign dignitaries to notify the US government about their travels, according to several sources familiar with the matter. Rice, who served as then-President Obama’s national security adviser in his second term, told the House Intelligence Committee last week that she requested the names of the Americans mentioned in the classified report be revealed internally, a practice officials in both parties say is common.

(emphasis mine). Again, Republicans are apparent in on the conspiracy to make Trump look bad, and to exonerate Rice from his allegations…

Comey was fired for incompetence, which has been clearly proven a fact

Trump told everyone explicitly in his interview with Lester Holt why he decided to fire Trump — he was frustrated by Russia investigation (link to that video is everywhere, easy to find). We have his own comments contradicting what you say here, and rather, admitting to obstruction of justice in a major media interview.

As for the rest, “clearly”… I don’t think that words mean what you think it means. Obama was never implicated in the IRS allegations, and has been connected with any directives to surveil Trump, at all. How that connects to “absolutely been vindicated”, I cannot fathom. It’s not even been speculatively substantiated.

They could make a movie about Obama but the name Dispicinle Me has been used

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267923/why-obama-really-spied-trump-daniel-greenfield
Headed out the door, [AFTER the ELECTION!] Rice was still unmasking the names of Trump’s people while Obama was making it easier to pass around raw eavesdropped data to other agencies.

Obama had switched from spying on a political opponent to win an election, to spying on his successor to undo the results of the election. Abuse of power by a sitting government had become subversion of the government by an outgoing administration. Domestic spying on opponents had become a coup.

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Obama Inc. compartmentalized its espionage operation in individual acts of surveillance and unmasking, and general policies implemented to aid both, that may have been individually legal, in the purely technical sense, in order to commit the major crime of eavesdropping on the political opposition.

When the individual acts of surveillance are described as legal, that’s irrelevant. It’s the collective pattern of surveillance of the political opposition that exposes the criminal motive for them.

…..

Manafort was spied on under the Russia pretext. Bannon may have been spied on over the UAE. That’s two different countries, two different people and two different pretexts.

But one single target. President Trump.

It’s the pattern that exposes the motive.

….

[Y]ou can’t justify committing a crime by discovering a crime.

If everyone were being spied on all the time, many crimes could be exposed every second. But that’s not how our system works. That’s why we have a Fourth Amendment.

Nor was Obama Inc. trying to expose crimes for their own sake, but to bring down the opposition.

That’s why it doesn’t matter what results the Obama surveillance turned up. The surveillance was a crime. Anything turned up by it is the fruit of a poisonous tree. It’s inherently illegitimate.

….

Once Obama and his allies launched their domestic surveillance operation, they crossed the Rubicon. And there was no way back. They had to destroy President Trump or risk going to jail.

The more crimes they committed by spying on the opposition, the more urgently they needed to bring down Trump. The consequences of each crime that they had committed spurred them on to commit worse crimes to save themselves from going to jail. It’s the same old story when it comes to criminals.

Each act of illegal surveillance became more blatant. And when illegal surveillance couldn’t stop Trump’s victory, they had to double down on the illegal surveillance for a coup.

The more Obama spied on Trump, the more he had to keep doing it.

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There’s actually much more, though this is damning enough.

@LesPaul59_burst: I always find it amazing how you leftists can leap upon every imaginary Republican conspiracy without even the thinnest of shreds of evidence yet can ignore the obvious and overwhelming evidence of corruption when presented by your liberal leaders.

The IRS scandal (one of many) is a perfect example. Targeting conservative groups and harassing them to the benefit of the Democrat campaigns was revealed but no managers or directors are ever investigated or held responsible. The FBI “investigates” without ever questioning any of the targeted parties. It was a coordinated attack on conservatives and cover-up and no one has ever been held accountable, further demonstrating administration involvement.

The left wants us all to believe Trump colluded with Russians because YOU want so strongly and desperately to believe it, yet you deny the numerous corruption scandals of the Obama administration. After Rice’s campaign of lies to try and fool the American people into believing Benghazi happened due to a video, her words can no longer be taken at face value. For instance, initially she denied any unmasking categorically, the slowly qualified and changed her position as more facts were uncovered. This has been the MO of the Obama regime throughout the term; throw one excuse after another against the wall and when one fails, follow it with another excuse, stonewalling and obstructing all along the way. Yet, we are to believe liberal accusations that Republicans operate in the same manner.

The left loves to fall back on the excuse that “this wasn’t allowed” or “that was against the law” or “a judge said this” but Obama has politicized all of this and it can no longer be taken for granted that the government checks and balances are in place. The sanctity of law and order has to be restored after so much abuse by the Obama administration.

@Nanny G: Which makes it important for the investigation to go on and on because, as long as the investigation is ongoing, any investigation into leaks or abuses will be played by the Democrats and their MSM propaganda arm as obstructing the investigation of the phony Russian collusion accusations. When THAT investigation ends, the dominoes will begin to fall, so it will simply never end.

We all speculate on what is happening. But solid evidence seems to always be missing for some reason. With all of the “wiped” servers and “lost” or destroyed hard drives that were under subpoena, why isn’t anyone indicted for destruction of evidence? Very odd. Almost like some kind of conspiracy is going on here. But of course that is ridiculous. We certainly can trust the Dems, who hired and continue to protect the criminal Awan family who had total control of the computers and servers of 29 powerful Dem members of congress. The party who gave Hillary the debate questions in advance. Who blamed the Benghazi massacre on a Youtube video. Who weaponized the IRS against conservative groups. How could we possibly believe that they would do anything dishonest to sabotage our President? That’s just crazy.

@Angel Artiste: All that you say there is true, yet liberals just LOVE to contend that none of that could have happened because there are laws against it!! Most of what you say is established, solid fact showing that those involved simply ignored any law that got in their way; Hillary was notified of any investigations so she would have plenty of time to destroy evidence, the FBI dutifully ignoring the most lucrative avenues for discovering evidence in investigations and bold-face lies told to Congress, under oath, are not regarded as perjury. Yet, we are supposed to believe none of this happened because there were rules against it.

Well, due to Obama’s politicizing of the intelligence community and DOJ (would the left be ignoring a secret meeting between Sessions and Melania?) we simply cannot take at face value anything the left says or blindly rely on our justice system to ignore politics and conduct an investigation. Not yet.

@LesPaul59_burst:

1. There’s nothing to suggest Obama did anything in regard to this.

His lack of morals suggests that he did this.