A list of those who aren’t helping with victims in Texas

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Texas is suffering a major disaster due to Hurricane Harvey and countless people are volunteering and donating. The Cajun Navy in particular, has done wonderful work:

One volunteer rescuer with the Cajun Navy, identified only by his first name, Brandon, told local ABC Houston station KTRK-TV that he came from Hammond, Louisiana, in order to assist with the rescue efforts, adding that he hopes to “give back.”

“Because Louisiana has always had its fair share of hurricanes and everybody has always showed up for us, so it’s time to give back,” Brandon said.

“The Cajun Navy, they pretty much step up and make it happen,” he added, saying that they prioritize rescuing elderly people and children, “and then whoever else hollers they need a ride.”

Joe Martinez, another citizen rescuer and member of the Cajun Navy, told KTRK that he came from Lafayette, Louisiana, “with a group of 10 boats … and everybody went and tried to save some people.”

“We have meteorologists,” Martinez added. “And everybody is volunteer, they dispatch, calls come in, people find it on Facebook, whatever, they post a call, they just get the information out.”

Nothing else mattered – not race, not political leaning, nothing except for saving people

Houston has brought out the best of America. But there are notable absences among the rolls of those who are helping. They include:

The antifa (not any of them)

Black Lives Matter

The Clinton Foundation

George Soros

Refuse Fascism

George Clooney

Bruce Springsteen

Hollywood

Mattress girl

Solidarity Houston

Chelsea Handler

Meryl Streep

Kanye West (doesn’t care about black people either)

The cast of The View

Kathy Griffin

Al Sharpton

Jesse Jackson

Just thought you’d like to know.

 

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Some in Hollywood and the music industry have asked for high-dollar donations. This is notable, but not at all the norm.

You left Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell off the list. Of course, if they got in the water, the level would rise another couple of inches. How about Rev Al?

These whining, bitter liberals are never found guilty of caring or helping. They expect everyone else to and only want to stand back and complain about the effort, if a conservative happens to be at the helm.

Black Lives Matter has been showing up and showing how to clean up the shelves in high-dollar stores! They even helped protect the money in some cash registers from getting soaked by the flooding.

These idiots are too busy trying to have Trump impeached then help out with the victims and i,ll those idiots from PETA are not helping out the pets too busy trying to force their vegan lifestyle upon us all

No useful skills let them stay out of the way so work can be done.

https://gab.ai/Renitar/posts/11411489
Take a good look at that photo, america.
Those good people are in line.
What are they waiting in line for?
Food? No.
Water? No.
Shelter? No.

Click to see the entire photo and caption.

They are waiting to sign up as official volunteers!

Antifa?
Look at those males in Antifa.
The only thing they are striving to do is fit into a one-size smaller pair of skinny jeans.

You can add radical activist Linda Sarsour to the list. She’s tweeting a link to a political action group but labeling it as flood relief.

Did I mention she’s scum?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450982/hurricane-harvey-linda-sarsour-uses-disaster-fund-political-activist-group

As if anyone knows whether any random person seen participating in the rescue and relief efforts is a republican or democrat…

Maybe we should all give it a rest.

You know the Louisianians that RW is always ridiculing? Well, in Louisiana they have air boats that will move in just inches of water and those awful Louisianians have formed the Cajun Navy. When Harvey hit Texas, those boat owners, who paid for those boats themselves, fueled up their trucks, which they paid for themselves, out of their own pockets, hitched up their boat trailers and headed for Texas. Since Harvey hit Texas, those boat owners have been rescuing people that may have otherwise drowned.

But that ain’t good enough for Logan Anderson, a former Obama administration staffer. Seems she is upset by a photo of people, both black and white, being rescued by one of those horrible air boat owners because the boat has a Confederate flag on it. Even though the owner is saving lives, no matter the color of their skin, she is incensed and says yes, she would get in the boat (of course you would, dear), but then would rip off the Confederate flag and throw in the water when she got out of the boat (assumingly once she was on high ground and no longer in danger of drowning).

What kind of mentally ill, deranged Liberal thinks that way? When a damn flag is such an insult to her while having her life saved, there is no way that woman should be allowed to function in polite society. Quick, someone give her the phone number to Antifa.

http://pjmedia.com/

@Greg:

As if anyone knows whether any random person seen participating in the rescue and relief efforts is a republican or democrat…

Maybe we should all give it a rest.

Tell that to former Obama administration staffer, Logan Anderson, who seems incensed that black people are being saved by a white boat owner whose boat has a Confederate flag on it.

She is as big an idiot as you are.

What kind of mentally ill, deranged Liberal thinks that way?

Possibly your counterpart on the other side of the political divide?

@Greg:

Possibly your counterpart on the other side of the political divide?

No, Gullible Greggie. Only a brain dead liberal would criticize HOW a person is rescued. Someone like you who buys into every perceived insult possible and supports special interest politics. How sad, you can’t even condemn such idiocy.

You remain an idiot.

If it isn’t being done with someone else’s money, liberals don’t do it.

@Greg:

As if anyone knows whether any random person seen participating in the rescue and relief efforts is a republican or democrat…

The looters are Democrats. You can tell; they think everything that other people have worked for belongs to them.

@retire05: This is how the liberal French repay our support when the disasters of their own making befall them.

http://www.newsweek.com/charlie-hebdo-cover-god-exists-drowned-neo-nazis-texas-657218

Well, no more folk singers for them. In fact, I guess in true liberal fashion, we should be cheering on the terrorists for a higher body count. Luckily for the world and civility, we are not all liberals. This is, of course, what comes of liberal propaganda here making its way around the world.

Liberals don’t see the good in people and, if someone in a boat with the Stars and Bars on it is rescuing people at their own peril, they cannot open their minds and wonder if perhaps they have been a bit hasty condemning ALL those people because of stereotypes (you know… like overcoming bigotry). Liberals just have to hate.

Never known a progressive who wasn’t in for himself and himself alone. Ayn Rand called them looters. Never been a better term for them. .

Actually, I’ve known many conservatives in the past who weren’t bigots, or haters, or suffering from serious anger management issues. They understood that social progress was a good thing, didn’t worship wealth, and understood that American strength and prosperity was built by and on the working and middle classes rather than billionaires. They valued education, were environmentalists by nature, and usually knew a totally obvious con man when they saw one. They didn’t think Jesus was a capitalist, or a card-carrying NRA member, and wouldn’t have been fooled by a slogan on a hat. They knew the difference between a Democrat and a communist. They knew the difference between a communist and a Nazi, and had a low tolerance for either. I don’t know where they’ve all gone lately. They certainly aren’t hanging out around here.

Hi Dr. John,
Long time reader, keep up the effort to get the info out. I would just like to point out that the Karadashian family has donated to the relief effort. $250,000 to the American Red Cross and $250,000 to the Salvation Army.

A list of those who aren’t helping with victims in Texas

Virtue signalling, but at least they did do it.

@Spurwing Plover:
The LAST group I’d want rescuing pets is the peta monsters. They euthanize 90+% of the animals they pick up and then dump the cacasses in dumpsters in trash bags. Look it up. Nice bunch!

@Greg:

Actually, I’ve known many conservatives in the past who weren’t bigots, or haters, or suffering from serious anger management issues.

I doubt that. Some of their common sense would have rubbed off on you, but it is clear none has.

They understood that social progress was a good thing,

Define “social” progress. Do you really think chopping up babies while still in their mother’s womb is “social progress?” How about making people slaves to their government via welfare payments? Is that “social progress”, as well?

didn’t worship wealth,

What Socialist pabulum.

and understood that American strength and prosperity was built by and on the working and middle classes rather than billionaires.

Without the “rich” man’s investment, there is no job. Simply Economics 101, that you can’t seem to grasp.

They valued education,

Yeah, right. All kids should be taught how to put a condom on a banana or queer science when they are 5, right? You are such an idiot you don’t know the difference between an education and indoctrination which is basically what the Gramsci trained teachers are doing now.

were environmentalists by nature,

Hunters are the true environmentalists. Bet you don’t support them.

and usually knew a totally obvious con man when they saw one.

Exactly why they voted against Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. and Hillary Clinton.

They didn’t think Jesus was a capitalist, or a card-carrying NRA member, and wouldn’t have been fooled by a slogan on a hat.

Why is it that you Socialists want to bring up Jesus? Is that an Alinsky tactic?
Jesus is never pictured wearing a hat. And the NRA was not around in Biblical times and only was created after the War of Northern Aggression so freed blacks could protect themselves.

They knew the difference between a Democrat and a communist.

There is no longer any difference.

They knew the difference between a communist and a Nazi, and had a low tolerance for either. I don’t know where they’ve all gone lately. They certainly aren’t hanging out around here.

You forgot the one thing conservatives do know; the United States Constitution which is something Democrats use for a floor mat.

You remain ever the idiot.

In the interest of historical accuracy, the founding of the NRA had nothing whatsoever to do with blacks or for that matter the 2nd Amendment, which at the time was the unquestioned law of the land. The founders of the NRA had observed that the vast majority of recruits to the Union Army during the Civil War hadn’t clue #1 of how to manage a firearm. The objective was to promote training of the civilian population, which to a considerable extent the NRA still does,

By the way, the probability is high that the town of Crosby, Texas, is going to be totally blown off the map at some moment during the next few hours. The evacuation zone extending from the site of the probable explosion—a chemical plant—has a radius of 1.5 miles. The company owning the plant says this cannot be prevented.

It isn’t certain what’s in there that’s going to detonate with such catastrophic force, because the State of Texas eliminated the formerly mandatory requirement that chemical plants disclose to state officials and the public what dangerous materials are present at their facilities. The removal of this reporting requirement was the state’s only legislative and regulatory response following the fertilizer plant explosion in West, Texas, on April 17, 2014, which killed 15 people. There are no zoning requirements that prevent such facilities from being located near populated areas, either. One of the buildings flattened in the West, Texas explosion was a nursing home.

The progressive view would be that both disclosure and zoning restrictions are necessary for public safety.

Why is it that you Socialists want to bring up Jesus?

Because the GOP no longer embraces the teachings of Christ, but in their hypocrisy believe their values are somehow superior to those who recognize our collective responsibility to care for the poor and each other—even if it means that the richest must surrender more coins to Caesar. Do you think the tax cuts Trump is pushing will help address the multi-billion dollar dent Henry is going to put in our public welfare budget?

@Greg:
As I read that story about Crosby, it’s pretty clear that the state and local officials ARE informed of what’s there, which is why the cordon around the area. Did YOU read beyond the headline?

A somewhat more complete story is here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/arkema-warns-it-cant-prevent-potential-chemical-explosion-in-texas-1504124326

WaPo as usual edited theirs to sensationalize it.

Tax cuts, which stimulate economic activity, usually do end up bringing more $$ into the Government’s coffers. Worked for Kennedy, worked for Reagan. Will work for Trump, too. Especially if we get our tax rates on business down to the point where businesses don’t keep activity offshore. Apple alone is said to have something like a trillion $$ offshore which they won’t repatriate because they’ll get killed with taxes.

@Chad C. Mulligan, #26:

WaPo as usual edited theirs to sensationalize it.

Or the WSJ is downplaying the fact that a Texas facility stores industrial quantities of chemicals that will spontaneously ignite and explode if allowed to reach room temperature, and around 300 residents live within the danger zone. The size of the evacuated area suggests that the effects of a detonation might not be entirely confined to the plant, as their Chief Executive claims.

I guess we can take our pick as to who’s downplaying the seriousness of the situation.

@Greg:

Because the GOP no longer embraces the teachings of Christ,

You have a vivid imagination.

From a Fox News report concerning the Arkema situation that appeared a few minutes ago — ‘THE QUESTION IS WHEN’ Chemical plant outside Houston could explode, company says:

In its most recently available submission from 2014, Arkema said potentially 1.1 million residents could be affected over an area of 23 miles in a worst-case scenario, according to information compiled by a nonprofit group and posted on a website hosted by the Houston Chronicle.

But, Arkema added, it was using “multiple layers of preventative and mitigation measures” at the plant, including steps to reduce the amount of substances released, and that made the worst case “very unlikely.”

That’s not entirely reassuring. Come on, FOX! Say something to make us feel safer!

Daryl Roberts, the company’s vice president of manufacturing, technology and regulatory services in the Americas, did not dispute that worst-case scenario but said that assumed all the controls in place failed and strong winds blew directly toward Houston, the nation’s fourth-largest city.

“We have not modeled this exact scenario but we are very comfortable with this 1.5-mile radius,” Roberts told the AP. He added that it mostly resembled less serious scenarios that would affect a half-mile radius and a few dozen people.

Who needs to worry about terrorists, when we’ve potentially got stuff like this in our backyards?

The mindless yammering from Al Bore blaming Global Warming/Climate Change for the Hurricane blaming Trump and blaming americans for not crowding to the theaters to see his junk science fake film

@Greg

Yah, let’s all go back to plowing our fields with mules, and crossing the oceans in wooden sailing ships. Maybe mules are too modern for you? We could go all the way back to oxen, and dispense with that ecologically disastrous mouldboard plow. After all, the Romans got by without it.

This plant produces, among other things, a family of chemicals called “organic peroxides”, which are used in acrylic paints and many plastics, which means that they contribute to a long list of modern consumer goods. Plastics are evil. We should eliminate them entirely and return to NATURAL materials, like wood and leather. {/sarc}

That irrelevant paragraph Fox threw in about “1.1 million people at risk” regards a hypothetical catastrophic release of sulphur dioxide, combined with wind patterns that would blow the gas toward the city of Houston. Nothing to do with the organic peroxides that are the trouble now.

Engineers like myself want to scream and throw things when we see such ignorant and misleading reporting by the Lame Stream Media.

@Greg:

The removal of this reporting requirement was the state’s only legislative and regulatory response following the fertilizer plant explosion in West, Texas, on April 17, 2014, which killed 15 people.

Which, as it turned out, was arson. One of your useful idiots, Greg? Still trying to make political points off of the misery of others?

Where are the liberals pitching in? Where is Gore? Where is Hillary? Where is Obama? Where are the liberal millionaires and billionaires (who worship wealth)? Let’s just see how many loud-mouthed liberals take time out of their constant lying about Trump to actually do something constructive for a change.

I see a report on BBC that two small explosions have occurred, and as expected, the peroxide is “burning like gasoline”.

“Where was the kaboom? I was expecting an earth-shattering kaboom”
…..Marvin the Martian

Yah, let’s all go back to plowing our fields with mules, and crossing the oceans in wooden sailing ships.

You don’t have to go there to have stricter zoning and regulatory standards to protect the public’s safety.

“Where was the kaboom? I was expecting an earth-shattering kaboom”

I’m sure no one is disappointed. Worst-case scenarios aren’t the most likely possibility. They’re the worst outcomes that are actually possible. According to the FOX News article, Arkema acknowledged 3 years ago that the worst-case scenario at their Crosby facility could affect up to 1.1 million people some 23 miles away. Presumably that would involve an accident where controlled industrial-scale chemical reactions go random, escape containment, and send a cloud of poison gases and vapors rolling toward Houston. But it isn’t likely. Only possible.

Fortunately Arkema has a rapid-response damage control protocol:

Explosions reported at flooded Crosby chemical plant

Arkema and Royall have not been characterizing the combustions as explosions. Carr called them “an overpressurization that was followed by a fire.” Royall referred to them as ruptures.

However, Carr said it would be “misleading” but not be scientifically inaccurate to call the morning’s events explosions.

The local sheriff compared the smoke with a burning campfire. Nothing was said about the safety of toasting marshmallows.

This all suggests to me that zoning and regulation in Texas may be a bit too lax, and public officials may be a bit too quick to downplay the possible consequences. That’s a set up for eventual disaster. Eventually the highly unlikely catches up with somebody.

@Greg: And your point is?

@Greg:

You don’t have to go there to have stricter zoning and regulatory standards to protect the public’s safety.

Did you see the aerial view of where the plant is? Apparently not.

The plant spokesperson explained that their protections of the volatility of the organic peroxide was three levels deep, the primary power source for cooling, auxiliary power plants and then liquid nitrogen to cool it. All three failed due to the extraordinary flooding. So, zoning was not necessary to provide for the necessary safeguards; private enterprise took it upon themselves.

Odd how only when a Republican is in charge is every event a human failure. When a liberal is in charge, things just happen that can’t be helped. Hypocritical in the extreme.

Fortunately Arkema has a rapid-response damage control protocol:

Yet, as you describe, no government forced them to do this. They did it themselves, because it was SMART. You aren’t helping your case, Greg.

@Redteam:

And your point is?

His point is that he doesn’t know if something bad has happened, but he is blaming Republicans if it did.

You’re kind of ignoring that worst-case scenario possibility, aren’t you?

Maybe someone should have considered putting the backup generators on platforms a bit above the maximum flood stage level, given that the chemicals in question predictably ignite and explode if the power fails. The Gulf area gets warm, and hurricanes have been known to cause flooding. Would that have been rejected as a dumb Democrat idea?

Yet, as you describe, no government forced them to do this. They did it themselves, because it was SMART

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It IS smart, but it’s also a matter of OSHA and EPA. I’ve sat in on countless hours of failure mode analysis sessions, as required by regulations, where we would brainstorm failure scenarios, assess probability, assess probable damage and risk to human health, assess recovery/mitigation costs, und-und-und. It’s actually a definable engineering specialty, with there are many consulting companies that do nothing but. I used to hire them from time to time. Just about every consumer product is subjected to this, from washing machines to toothpaste. Vernacularly is was called idiot-proofing, and no matter how careful we are, nature is always evolving better idiots.

Interestingly many of the analysis tools used today were developed 40-50 years ago by NASA. FMEA is one acronym I can remember (been retired over 7 years now). Failure Mode and Effects Analysis. Another is Fault Tree Analysis, (FTA). Here is the Wiki article on that method.

Out of the millions (yes millions) of manhours spent doing this over the years, partly for self-protection, and partly at the behest of alphabet agencies, there will always be cases where an actual event will exceed even the most paranoid engineers’ imaginations. Arkema may have done their FMEA/FTA analyses based the assumption of a 500 year flood, and dang if this wasn’t a 1000 year flood.

99.99999% of people don’t know what engineers do, and this is one of the more arcane aspects of it.

The title of this thread was “List of People Who Aren’t Helping”. I think Greg’s name needs to be added to that list.

@Greg:

By the way, the probability is high that the town of Crosby, Texas, is going to be totally blown off the map at some moment during the next few hours.

Why do I get the feeling you are crossing your fingers waiting for the big explosion? Perhaps it is because you radical leftwingers are always looking for some tragedy so you can point fingers.

around 300 residents live within the danger zone

And exactly where, in any urban area, do you think 300 residents do NOT live in a danger zone? Jeeze, Gullible Greggie, you seem to be salivating at the prospect of Texans being blown to hell.

The progressive view would be that both disclosure and zoning restrictions are necessary for public safety.

Well, it is obvious that Harvey did not get the progressive memo.

This all suggests to me that zoning and regulation in Texas may be a bit too lax, and public officials may be a bit too quick to downplay the possible consequences. That’s a set up for eventual disaster. Eventually the highly unlikely catches up with somebody.

Yep, you’re salivating at the prospect of another disaster in Texas.

What a despicable little man you are, Gullible Greggie. You should not be allowed to be anywhere near normal human beings.

Why is it that you Socialists want to bring up Jesus?

Because the GOP no longer embraces the teachings of Christ, but in their hypocrisy believe their values are somehow superior to those who recognize our collective responsibility to care for the poor and each other—even if it means that the richest must surrender more coins to Caesar. Do you think the tax cuts Trump is pushing will help address the multi-billion dollar dent Henry is going to put in our public welfare budget?

Yeah, right, coming from a despicable person who supports a party that refused to put the word “God” in their platform at their national convention, who supports cutting babies up to rip them out of their mother’s wombs, who encourages people being obese by insisting no one is “fat shamed” and who will wind up on the taxpayer doll when they develop Diabetes Type 2.

Don’t preach how Republicans are when you seem to know little about the teachings of Jesus Christ. Or perhaps you can show me where in the New Testament Christ supported getting more of Caesar’s coins at the point of the Pretorian Guard’s swords.

You’ve reached a new low, Gullible Greggie, a depth I never though you could reach. I was proven wrong.

@Chad C. Mulligan: Apparently, according to Greg, preparing for storms that happen every 500 or 1000 years is good risk management. This from a guy that thinks we should just allow all refugees from terrorist infused regions without any vetting because terrorism probably won’t happen anymore.

@Bill… Deplorable Me, #43:

It seems like we’re seeing a lot of “500-year” events lately. This is the 3rd “500-year” inundation the Houston area has had in the past 3 years. The Washington Post explains the confusion:

A 500-year flood isn’t necessarily something that happens once every five hundred years. Rather, a 500-year flood is an event that has a 1 in 500 chance of occurring in any given year.

It’s either a run of bad luck, or a new emerging pattern. In any case, good risk management means you also take the unlikely into account, particularly when the consequences of a failure to do so could be catastrophic. When you don’t, you sometimes get Fukushima.

@Greg: Yet when we try to take the LIKELY into account, such as take steps to prevent terror attacks from KNOWN TERROR THREATS, that sort of logic seem stupid (or, at least, “racist”) to you.

Point is, safety measures taken have to be balanced against the cost and return. And the reality of the threat.

Mother Nature is an awesome force and man is not capable of controlling her… one way or another.

These storms in the past affected areas not so densely populated. Now, the areas are saturated with people and businesses. No, the fantasy of rapid-fire, devastating storms, as predicted by the failed computer models are not a reality. Enjoy your exploitation of human tragedy to try and promote your liberal agenda, but the facts simply don’t add up.

@Bill… Deplorable Me:

Enjoy your exploitation of human tragedy to try and promote your liberal agenda,

That’s Gullible Greggie in a nut shell. What kind of despicable person shows such joy in the possibility that a chemical plant will explode and perhaps kill people?

Gullible Greggie should be prevented from ever being allowed around normal people. He is nothing but a slug.

@Greg: Yet when we try to take the LIKELY into account, such as take steps to prevent terror attacks from KNOWN TERROR THREATS, that sort of logic seem stupid (or, at least, “racist”) to you.

Ooooh, that’s gonna leave a mark !

@retire05: I guess the question is, is this weather or is this climate? We never can tell with these liberals.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: I recall when Katrina hit we were told it was a sure sign of global warming. That we would see more Katrina’s, more often and more severe. Fact is we haven’t. But of course with every weather event we see people like Greg yelling wolf in a crowded theater.

HOW CLIMATE CHANGE FUELED HURRICANE HARVEY

A warming climate increases the likelihood of severe storms, and increases their strength when they occur. This is because warmer ocean temperatures increase the available energy that drives the storms. Higher sea levels makes low-lying coastal areas more vulnerable. That’s basic science and common sense.

The negative changes that follow don’t arrive as dramatically as they’re portrayed in Hollywood climate-disaster movies. The changes arrive slowly and steadily, setting in over decades and centuries. You don’t generally see the hour hand of a clock move, but it does.