democrat Presidents really know how to make deals, don’t they?

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Today North Korea threatened the US with nuclear destruction if the US “at any sign of U.S. aggression.”

PYONGYANG, April 11 (Reuters) – North Korean state media on Tuesday warned of a nuclear attack on the United States at any sign of U.S. aggression as a U.S. Navy strike group steamed towards the western Pacific.

U.S. President Donald Trump, who has urged China to do more to rein in its impoverished neighbour, said in a Tweet North Korea was “looking for trouble” and the United States would “solve the problem” with or without China’s help.

Tension has escalated sharply on the Korean peninsula with talk of military action by the United States gaining traction following its strikes last week against Syria and amid concerns the reclusive North may soon conduct a sixth nuclear test.

North Korea’s official Rodong Sinmun newspaper said the country was prepared to respond to any aggression by the United States.

“Our revolutionary strong army is keenly watching every move by enemy elements with our nuclear sight focused on the U.S. invasionary bases not only in South Korea and the Pacific operation theatre but also in the U.S. mainland,” it said.

South Korean acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn warned of “greater provocations” by North Korea and ordered the military to intensify monitoring and to ensure close communication with the United States.

“It is possible the North may wage greater provocations such as a nuclear test timed with various anniversaries including the Supreme People’s Assembly,” said Hwang, acting leader since former president Park Geun-hye was removed amid a graft scandal.

Trump said in a Tweet a trade deal between China and the United States would be “far better for them if they solved the North Korea problem”.

“If China decides to help, that would be great,” he said. “If not, we will solve the problem without them!”

Trump and his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping, met in Florida last week and Trump pressed Xi to do more to rein in North Korea.

The North convened a Supreme People’s Assembly session on Tuesday, one of its twice-yearly sessions in which major appointments are announced and national policy goals are formally approved. It did not immediately release details.

On top of that fat kid Kim Jong Un doesn’t like being called fat kid. So there.

North Korea has fired several missiles over the last few months with limited success, but they are becoming more and more successful. The problem is that they have something to put on top of those missiles.

Nuclear weapons.

How did this happen? Didn’t a democrat President whose name rhymes with pill binton sign an agreement or something?

Let’s crank up the Wayback Machine again. It’s 1994. Bill Clinton talks up his nuclear deal with North Korea:

“This agreement is good for the United States, good for our allies, and good for the safety of the entire world,” Clinton said at the time. “It reduces the danger of the threat of nuclear spreading in the region. It’s a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community.”

I guess it depends on the meaning of word “good.”

In fairness, Jimmy Carter deserves as much credit for the deal as does Bill Clinton:

For all this, thank Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. North Korea couldn’t have done it without their gullibility.

Back in 1994, President Clinton prepared to confront North Korea over CIA reports it had built nuclear warheads and its subsequent threats to engulf Japan and South Korea in “a sea of fire.”

Enter self-appointed peacemaker Carter: The ex-prez scurried off to Pyongyang and negotiated a sellout deal that gave North Korea two new reactors and $5 billion in aid in return for a promise to quit seeking nukes.

Clinton embraced this appeasement as achieving “an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean Peninsula” — with compliance verified by international inspectors. Carter wound up winning the Nobel Peace Prize for his dubious efforts.

Did someone say Nobel Peace Prize? For a failed effort? Where have I heard that before?

Anyway, the networks sucked it up:

At the time, CBS’s Dan Rather declared the deal “could end the long-running crisis with North Korea over nuclear weapons” as well as perhaps “open the way for normal relations between the U.S. and one of the world’s last old-line, hard-line Communist states.”  

During his promotion of the 1994 deal, CBS reporter David Martin outlined its details which made it clear just how much the U.S. had given into North Korea’s demands:

Agreeing to the inspections was the major concession made by North Korea. Agreeing to delay the inspections by several years was the major concession made by the U.S. But beyond the details, North Korea seems to have made a fundamental decision that the Cold War is really over.

BC’s Peter Jennings parroted Clinton’s prediction that the deal “will prevent North Korea from developing a nuclear weapon,” while Pentagon correspondent John McWethy downplayed the significance of a delay in inspecting their nuclear facilities:

Crucial inspections are being delayed five years while the rest of the deal is implemented. American officials say the delay is a small price to pay for getting North Korea to shut down its entire nuclear program.

It all failed. NK was cheating right from the start. But hold on. obama will do something. Right?

obama promised North Korea going nuclear would never be accepted:

“To be clear, the United States does not, and never will, accept North Korea as a nuclear state,” Obama said. “Far from achieving its stated national security and economic development goals, North Korea’s provocative and destabilizing actions have instead served to isolate and impoverish its people through its relentless pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missile capabilities.”

And what did he do?

Nothing. He left it for Donald Trump to sort out. Just as he did with Syria. All that was missing was another obama red line for Kim Jung Un.

Carter, Clinton, obama. You really have to hand it to democrat Presidents. They sure know how to make a deal.

Deals that lasts long enough for them to get out of office, that is, and maybe scoop up an increasingly worthless Nobel Prize. You can bet the Iran deal is going to go down this same road.

North Korea, Syria, Iran- democrat messes left behind for Donald Trump.

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nice review

Never forget that Clinton was a vietnam era draft dodger who fled to europe and who sold out our nations op secrets to the chi-coms for illegal cash for his corupt party Carter was a wimp and Obama abused his power of office Trump is just cleaning up the mess they left behind

dr dufus, I didn’t read past your illiterate headline because, well, you’re a profound dumbass but I was just capturing the images of the past so-called conservative presidents. We went from your big hit Nixon to one term Ford to what Reagan who was actually more moderate yet hailed as a conservative hero to the one term daddy Bush to the disastrous jr Bush to now the con man in chief that bombs countries at Ivanka’s nod and tells us Hitler didn’t gas Jews.

Do you have a remote clue as to how retarded you appear?

@Spurwing Plover:

Never forget that Clinton was a vietnam era draft dodger

Remind us once more of the years of military of Trump

@Spurwing Plover:

Never forget that Clinton was a vietnam era draft dodger who fled to europe

Actually he was a felony draft dodger that fled to Russia to avoid induction.

@andy42302:

Do you have a remote clue as to how retarded you appear?

So, you’ve now graduated kindergarten with a degree in judging levels of retardation. Start with your d!ck licker twin and grade his retardation level.

Remind us once more of the years of military of Trump

Trump was medically rejected. Quite different from felony draft dodging. I believe Clinton is the only pardoned felon to hold the white house.

@andy42302:

We went from your big hit Nixon

hey DL, the crimes of Nixon pale in comparison to Obozo.

Obama was a different dimension from anything hat we have seen before. He is profoundly anti American . If you approve of something why seek “fundamental ” change. He hid behind his racial victim status, while himself being a hardcore racist (in his memoirs)

What democrat was PoTUS from 2001-2009? Maybe DrJohns medical malpractice had put him in a coma for 8 years.

@andy42302: Do you?

@andy42302: Hey jackass, that video was of CLINTON treasonously dealing with NK.

Whine all you want about Republicans, Bill Clinton is the guy you STILL like to give blowjobs to.

@DrJohn:

Base on the regular insults and such from your regular band of supporting sockpuppets, I really didn’t know there was such a thing as FA decorum.

Much like the overwhelming hypocrisy on most every issue here, I guess right or wrong is contingent on if one leans right or leans left. Yes, you really are that bigoted.

If my comments aren’t welcomed here, I can either show myself to the door on request (no, Bill and Redass and the like don’t count) or you can ban me. The bigotry, hatred, and stupidity here has really lost my interest.

They made a movie about the Obama’s last year it was a big time bomb in the box office I mean what makes those idiot directors and producers think americans want to see a putrid movie about the nations !# worst presidents in its over 240 year history

What ought to be studied with amazement is how President Trump, while sharing dinner with the Chinese President Xi Jinping, made such an extra impact on that man and his country’s treatment of North Korea.
Now, after years of enabling North Korea, China is sending troops to that border and threatening to take away NK’s nukes!
Add to that china is suddenly making trade concessions with the USA/Trump.
China is strangling NK, turning back many shipments of coal, NK’s biggest export.
All this is new policy for China.
All since Jinping sat through a dinner with Trump while Trump bombed Assad.
That’s a pretty economical act, given its consequences.
Maybe stone carvers should size up a section of Mt Rushmore for Trump.

@andy42302: Tell is, AJ, how we were told that Hitler didn’t gas Jews. Try to be specific… and honest.

Oh, hell… just try to spell correctly.

@Nanny G: If DT went on Rushmore it would be for STONE THROWERS. LOL

BTW–Have you now changed your mind about who initiated the gassing of civilians–you said it was white hats not Assad??

Bill
Spicer said Hitler didn’t employ chemical weapons–he’s now recanted that assertion

@Rich Wheeler: Did you listen to the Lavrov (sp?) Tillerson news conference?
Our “deep state” obama holdovers claim they are certain it was Assad.
But Russia, who is there on the ground and in the meetings, say they don’t know IF Assad did it or a weapon’s cache with chlorine was hit by an Assad bomb.
One thing we do know:
It was NOT sarin.
You can’t help sarin victims with your bare hands ….. and live.
The white helmets did help with bare hands.
If Russia was there and admits they don’t know, how can anyone from the USA, which was NOT there say they definitely know?

Spicer was talking about on the battlefield.

SPICER: We didn’t use chemical agents in World War II. You know? You have someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons.

His apology was better than the “If I offended anyone…..”
To whit:

My comments today did not reflect the President’s, were a distraction from him and, frankly, were just insensitive and wrong.

Excellent.

I think, what happened to Jews, gays, blacks, gypsies, professionals, and other wrong-thinkers, in Hitler’s concentration camps was not warfare with weaponry.
It was a slaughter of unarmed victims.
Lest you want to be part of an unarmed populace.

Democratic presidents do know how to make deals, understanding that successful and effective governance of a free and diverse nation necessarily involves compromise. They also know proper English language grammar, the simple rules of which Republic presidents are apparently too frickin’ stupid to master. Even those who know better wear this symbol of educational deficiency on their lapels as if it were a “One of Us” button.

@Nanny G: “Obama deep state holdovers?” BS Trump and Tillerson have said Assad initiated the gas attack

Spicer screwed up then rightfully corrected himself

Greg
Repubs believe in “home schoolin”
Mama knows a darn whole more than them Lib teachers.

@Rich Wheeler: Ya dem hum skoolers just ignerant making dummer kids
A mother and father want to see children excel. Have you no shame judging those that fully raise their own children? Not turning them over to be programed you may answer but show your work lol, granted not all would make good teachers but there are plenty poor ones getting a taxpayers funded paycheck.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/30/home-schooling-outstanding-results-national-tests/
Giving two countries run by America hating leaders nukes is not a good deal.
Handing over the Panama Canal wasn’t popular at the time. I think Carter honest and he loves his country.

@Jim Thorpe: Yes, obama will go down as the president that was most Anti-American. He did all he could do to destroy the country in his 8 years.

@Rich Wheeler:

Spicer screwed up then rightfully corrected himself

Congrats Richie, you interpreted that correctly. When he first said it, I ‘thought’ he was right. I was thinking using chemical weapons on the battlefield against troops. It never crossed my mind, at that time, to consider gas in prison camps. Once he realized it, he made the correction. But all your babbling cohorts just think he was ‘trying to be wrong’. He made a mistake, he immediately corrected it. You recognize that, as I do. Congrats.

@kitt: I certainly can understand Evangelical Christians home schooling their kids. They want everybody home when The Rapture occurs.
For everyone else I suggest a well rounded education in the real world as it exists–including participation in athletics and after school programs.

@Rich Wheeler:

Repubs believe in “home schoolin”
Mama knows a darn whole more than them Lib teachers

Seems as if you are quoting Greg here: It doesn’t matter who ‘home schools’ the child will get a better education. Mom’s won’t teach their children BS like the libs promote. I had an extremely intelligent mother (and father) Mom finished the 6th grade, Dad finished the 10th. I don’t know too many more intelligent persons. They had to work when they were chilidren, unlike today’s generations (most of whom just ‘won’t’ work) Had I never gone to college, I would still have had more education that is usable than all those ‘educated’ (lol) in liberal schools. The formal education just taught me how to manage facilities and people, it didn’t teach me about life. Mom and Dad did that.

@Rich Wheeler:

For everyone else I suggest a well rounded education in the real world as it exists–including participation in athletics and after school programs.

That would be nice. What country do you know of that has such a system? As long as the libs are running the education system, most kids will be learning BS. Want to see a puzzled look on a teen agers face; ask them what countries were in WWII, or what year was the civil war, or who is FDR?

@Greg:

They also know proper English language grammar, the simple rules of which

proper English language grammar? As in; reading from a teleprompter: If, if, if, if, if, uh, uh, uh, but, but, but, if, if, if, uh, ;uh ,uh…………Yep I can still see ole Obozo spewing out the if, if if’s……. really educated. Should have staying in HS until he learned English, then should have attended a college, might have learned something. uh, uh, uh………
here’s a link

or for a really educated person, check this one:

@Ajay42302:

If my comments aren’t welcomed here, I can either show myself to the door

That’s up to you, stay or go, up to you. What’s one more d!ck licker, more or less. But if you go you might take your twin brother/sister with you.

@Rich Wheeler:

I certainly can understand Evangelical Christians home schooling their kids. They want everybody home when The Rapture occurs.

see what your education got you? you still think a Christian has to be at home with their mom and dad to experience the rapture? I think God has a better travel/transportation system than that.

@Rich Wheeler: Did you show your work? Thats failing grade Mr. Wheeler, fully read the article at the link provided, sports, well not all kids get on the team dear, what after school programs are in your top 3, as the homes school kids can hop in the car and go to museums and art galleries, city sport programs are available. There are businesses that offer many art projects from throwing pots, to oil painting lessons. The Home Depo has projects learning to tile ect something a kid might use in the future. You think its just hermit like Mother Earther survivalists that home school? Yes I think a D- for a grade and an F for critical thinking and logic.
Please write 100 times I will not bash those who believe in the bible.

@Rich Wheeler:

If DT went on Rushmore it would be for STONE THROWERS. LOL

Just curious Richie, what’s your standard for Mt Rushmore? What did TR or FDR do that got them a spot there? I’ve never heard of TR doing anything but riding a horse and FDR might have only been just a little more competent than Obozo. He had 8 years before the war started to end the depression and all he did was dig it deeper. He had to get into the war to end the depression. But, hey FDR was a Dimocrap and that seemed to be all that mattered. PS TR was home schooled, but he was also a leader of Progressives, which defined Republicans during his time.

@Redteam: That’s funny–good for you RT. The avenging angels can pick the kids up anywhere.

Mount Rushmore/Great Leaders who could inspire TR was a true Conservationist and a great leader—FDR also a great leader. Two of the best.

DT—We’ll see if the American people will follow him when the time comes

Progressive–I’ve ALWAYS considered that a positive word.

@kitt: Thanks for your input.
Pink Floyd–one of my wife’s favorite bands.

Do “bible believers” generally like rockers like Pink Floyd,. Rolling Stones, Petty and Seger??Just curious

@Rich Wheeler: I would think any good tune, not every song. Rock n roll is a great American tradition.

@Rich Wheeler:

Bill
Spicer said Hitler didn’t employ chemical weapons–he’s now recanted that assertion

Are you really that ignorant of the history of World War II? He apologized because he realizes, as I do, that there are far more ignorant people than those with knowledge of the facts of that war.

Do you know what Zyklon B is? A pesticide. Used for fumigation. That’s what Hitler used on the Jews. Zyklon B was not weaponized AND it was NOT used in combat on soldiers OR civilians… OBVIOUSLY what Spicer was referencing, since THAT was the situation in which the chemical agents were used. In fact, without Hitler’s horrific treatment of PRISONERS, what does the reference of

…even Hitler…

mean? Without Auschwitz, Dachau and Treblinka, what is the significance of the reference? Sheesh. Come ON!

Spicer was absolutely accurate and proper.

@Greg:

Democratic presidents do know how to make deals

Yeah. BAD deals.

@Bill… Deplorable Me: I’m sure the Jews were very appreciative of the difference you’ve pointed out
Thanks for your truly irrelevant input.

Spicer, who’ll never be considered a genius, got it wrong and rightfully apologized. Spicer’s not gonna apologize if he thinks he’s right.

His egomaniac boss won’t apologize even when he’s wrong–IMO one of the reasons he hovers around 40% approval

@Rich Wheeler:

Progressive–I’ve ALWAYS considered that a positive word.

then you might want to check your bona fides. Most liberals consider it synonymous with communism (or something similar) I take it as generally used to mean to adapt the constitution to the population vs adjusting the pop to the constitution.

@Rich Wheeler:

TR was a true Conservationist and a great leader

never read a lot about him, maybe
he was too long ago to still be talked about very much. Not in history books very much.

—FDR also a great leader. Two of the best.

Then why was he not able to make a dent in the depression in 8 years? 33-41. Country likely would not have recovered under him at all if not for WWII. In fact, most numbers I’ve seen indicate the country was getting progressively worse under him. But, again, I’ve not made a case study of him.

@Rich Wheeler:

Do “bible believers” generally like rockers like Pink Floyd,. Rolling Stones, Petty and Seger??Just curious

I’m qualified to answer that. ‘Hard rock’ generally no. but some groups, yes. Like Seger very much, Stones, some good, some not. Pink Floyd, no, Beatles, most of it. Jim Morrison, very good. Depends mosly if it’s a good song vs just a loud screeching noise, which most of the Hard Rock seems to be. I’m mostly a country music-50’s and 60’s rock and roll fan.

@Redteam, #27:

Such utterances in spoken language are known as “filled pauses.” They’re generally used when someone speaking extemporaneously is collecting his or her thoughts.

Maybe Trump should try this as an alternative to constantly repeating words and phrases, throwing out hyperbolic adjectives, or just saying whatever pops into his head at the moment without pause for thought.

@Redteam: Did you read Bill’s #35? I’m still shaking my head at that “reasoning.”
Even DT said Spizer misspoke.

@Nanny G: I saw that ice cold news conference.
Trump says Assad dropped gas on his civilians. I know you wouldn’t call Trump a liar—-so you must be saying he was duped by Obama’s INTEL people —is he that gullible?

Would ask all to watch HBO’S Documentary “Cries From Syria” showing the atrocities committed by Assad regime and the Russians

I guess they make deals with some people.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225#efmAGIAHu

@Rich Wheeler: This isn’t about Jews or prisoners or gypsies or mental deficients or any other person in German camps. This about using chemical weapons.

: Did you read Bill’s #35? I’m still shaking my head at that “reasoning.”
Even DT said Spizer misspoke.

It’s not “reasoning”. It’s called FACTS. Did the Wermacht use chemical weapons on any front, even against the Russians?

Why do you liberals go out of your way to support brutal dictators?

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Not surprised you’re calling Spicer a liar…
But calling Trump a liar when he said Spicer “made a mistake.” That breaks new ground.

Reminder–you’re the one who has said for months that Assad should be left alone. I berated BHO for not bombing him. If anyone is supporting a brutal dictator it would be you Bill.

@Greg:

Such utterances in spoken language are known as “filled pauses

used mostly by idiots and chimpanzees. But that’s redundant, right?

@Rich Wheeler:

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Not surprised you’re calling Spicer a liar…
But calling Trump a liar when he said Spicer “made a mistake.” That breaks new ground.

I’m not surprised you have based your entire argument on ignorance. Spicer DID make a mistake; he was not specific enough for those not knowledgeable of World War II. Most base their history on movies and this makes them largely ignorant.

So, perhaps you can make your point by providing the facts you base it on. Besides, did you not cite ME as the ultimate authority?

@Bill… Deplorable Me: Why did Spicer apologize rather than explain his mistake to the poor unwashed masses that lacked an understanding of his nuanced comment?
Why didn’t Trump explain more clearly his “Spicer made a mistake” comment?
Spicer is really fun to watch–he’s become almost incoherent trying to explain DT’S FLIP FLOPS.

Sorry Bill I don’t think you’re the “ultimate authority” on anything.

RT Chimpanzees are pretty smart-certainly smarter than some persistent FAERS.

@Rich Wheeler:

RT Chimpanzees are pretty smart-certainly smarter than some persistent FAERS.

Certainly some more recent ex presidents.

Sorry Bill I don’t think you’re the “ultimate authority” on anything.

?Well just a few comments back you acknowledged his authority.

Spicer, who’ll never be considered a genius, got it wrong and rightfully apologized.

Not sure why ‘genius’ has to enter the picture, there are really few of those around, though I do understand that Trump’s IQ put’s him into that category. I don’t have an opinion on that, but I think Spicer is pretty sharp. He handles the press better than most press Sec’s I’ve seen. Certainly at least 10 times as well as that fellow that served with Obozo.
I personally have never heard anyone claim that Germany used chemical weapons during WWII, and searching google doesn’t give any occasions. They are recognized to have used poison gas in the death camps, but no ‘weapons’ in the field.
If you have a link to any info on that, I’d like to see it.

@Redteam: Acknowledge his authority–how so. He’s a legend in his own mind with a personality much like your genius? idol DT.

btw Spizer said “even someone as despicable as Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons.” Brilliant.