We did not elect our Republican’s to act like the damn liberals. And yet, here we are. Once we pass the bill, we’ll have a chance to really explain it:
You know this thing is going down in flames now.
As it should.
And our President know’s it:
With the house vote looming Friday on the American Health Care Act, President Donald Trump has started to distance himself from the possibility if the House bill does not pass. First reported by the New York Times, President Trump, “reportedly questioned his decision to several allies, saying he should’ve prioritized tax reform after seeing the immediate Republican fallout from the GOP healthcare proposal.”
After inviting and courting congressional members to the White House this week, the President has been unable to satisfy Republicans House Freedom Caucus members who find the bill does not do enough to repeal and replace ObamaCare.
This thing has felt rushed from the git-go.
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Government controlled crap, I hope it crashes and burn I hope we elected enough reps that did not change from repeal to repeal and replace and from replace to repair.
Too many are chicken because of dem slanted polls, what will the media report.
The conservatives in office are being threatened to go along to get along phase phase 3 what a gaslight.
We elected them cause we hate Obama care, get rid of it, all of it. Its not our responsibility to repair the clunker. Dont create another clunker.
I expect them to keep promises made for 8 years. If they are so great at health care fix the damn VA system (not a liberal priority).
The Republicans are mostly career politicians with the same incentives as the Dems. I think they are, as a group, only a marketing arm of the DemoPub party. You can buy the message of the Dems or of the Pubs, but you are going to get the same policies and results. They belong to an organization, the government, which has promised $100 T. They will all have the same policies, in effect.
This explains Republican actions. Their replacement for ObamaCare is only a crafty variant, with each ObamaCare policy replaced by an equivalent but differently implemented policy. Coverage of pre-existing conditions, kids insured to age 26, and subsidies are all retained. Government meddling through Medicare/Medicaid ensure that the rigidities of socialist medicine will keep costs high.
The solution to medical care is to deregulate it and make all subsidies explicit, not hidden in insurance. This won’t happen, because each politician is elected by his base which accepts a particular marketing message, plus some independents who are mostly socialist in their view that “people should be helped by the government”.
People won’t accept the direct taxes needed to keep the government’s promises. It seems that they will accept socialized medicine for all, which saves money by delivering cheap and poor services to the hapless peasants which will have to use that system. Check out the Veteran’s Administration version of health care to see the future.
Un, what about Trump’s plan?
He signed onto the effort to cancel the pre exiting condition cause as well as the kids stay to 26.
Now that this abomination by Paul Ryan is out of the way, the public can witness the death spiral, implosion, collapse of ObamaCare.
This is the ObamaCare that has only Dem fingerprints on it.
They needed Obama to tweek it 43 times to keep it even LOOKING afloat.
And that was with a 3 year tax collecting head start!
President Trump is NO Obama.
He will not tweek it to save it.
It is falling.
Dems are in no position to save it.
After 7 years of talk, it turns out the republicans never had a replacement plan. What they quickly patched together was a package of tax cuts for the rich and perks for the insurance industry. It wasn’t even well disguised as a plan.
Trump doesn’t have one either. He never did.
So… How about tackling each problem that comes up with Affordable Care Act, beginning with the damage republicans have done to it? Because if you don’t do it, you’re going to get what Bernie Sanders is talking about—a single payer system, and all that comes with it.
Every aspect of the “Repeal and Replace, well, uh, just repeal or, uh, we have no clue what the hell we’re doing” push of the right is indeed everything the they themselves screamed bloody murder over in 2010.
Had it passed (and most likely if it ever passes) it would have been that very “pass it and see what’s in it”, something constantly brought up by the ACA naysayers. Had it passed or ever does, it would have brought the “ram down the throat” meme to a new level (it took Dems 2 years with considerable Republican input, amendments, committees, haggling, and even considerable watering down as a result whereas Trump wanted to “ram” this haphazard mess in a matter of days. Had it passed, it would have without a single opposition vote, something the pro-go-home-and-die folks have pounded sand about since its enactment.
So this debacle of an attempt to govern demonstrates 2 strong realities.
1)Today’s lot of half baked Republicans can’t seem to do it or are very very bad at it whereas as Dems can unite, work, and get the job done.
2) Today’s lot of half baked Republicans are blatant liars and abject hypocrites.
A few good conservatives had plans but the old boys did not let them in on the lets mash a bunch of stuff together and call it American instead of Affordable. They dont trust the free market, or freedom, they took talking points of the tea party and thats all.
Privatize medicaid by voucher system
A Separate gov plan for Pre-existing gov run so it will suck like medicare
Dont tell the insurance companies what they must cover in a plan
Open the markets so there is real competition.
Have the doctors Hospitals and Clinics post prices so HCSA holders can shop price for service.
Drugs shouldnt be cheaper in Canada or Mexico
There are other factors in the skyrocking health care costs that can be addressed malpractice insurances and excessive coding just to name 2 if they get with real doctors they could find out much more.
We know what we were promised and thats what we want its what we voted for.
What are the democrats ideas to fix up their program?
@kitt:
You say: They (the old boys that foiled the plans of the “good conservatives”) dont trust the free market, or freedom
You then say “Drugs shouldnt be cheaper in Canada or Mexico”
You then say “Dont tell the insurance companies what they must cover in a plan”.
You talk in circles and seem to be very confused and/or ignorant of this issue.
@Ajay42302: Read it again, The Old boys THEY do not trust the free market. Yes Free the insurance companies to offer a multitude of plans, do not order them what the plans must be, I know its hard but what about freeing the market is circular. Why can you order drugs from Canada hundreds $ cheaper than the same drugs here?
Because YOU cant read I am confused thats so liberal minded lol.
What are your ideas lib boy?
@kitt:
Aside from your gross deficiency of English and grammar knowledge, let’s try to wade through your atrocious attempt (or more realistically, your role of distraction) of a rebuttal.
Your question was:
Your response to your very own question was:
The sad thing about constructive or deductive arguments is that playing on a FA playing field or trying to rationalize with the Trump lickers of today, you actually scored.
@andy42302: Answer the question you idiot.
If you want to just be a grammar nazi move on.