Have Americans Finally Come To Their Senses? (Guest Post)

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Americans are in an ugly mood. They are mad as hell and they won’t take it anymore. That is why a clown like Donald Trump won New Hampshire and have been leading in the polls among Republican candidates for months.

But in the latest poll, Trump has fallen behind Ted Cruz, who gets 28% support as compared to Trump’s 26%. How did Trump come so far in the first place?

Firstly, there is the economy. While the unemployment rate has gone down, the labor participation rate is the lowest in 38  years. Those who have given up looking for work are not counted as unemployed.

The past seven years of President Barack Obama have created national anxiety. About 64% of Americans say that the country is headed in the wrong direction as compared to 29% who say it is headed in the right direction.

This explains why there is a rage against illegal immigrants that Trump tapped on. Blue collar workers feel the threat to their jobs more than rich liberals who are happy to employ cheap Mexican labor as domestic helpers.

Trump’s signature issue is to send the illegal immigrants home. Besides this, his refreshing politically correct statements and insults differentiated him from conventional politicians. Americans have lost faith in their politicians and are looking for someone different. They voted Republicans in the Congressional elections and nothing seems to have changed.

The Republicans won in part by promising to rein in spending and cut taxes.  But in the end, they had to cut a deal with President Obama. Many Republican politicians promised to defund the unpopular ObamaCare, but nothing happened.

That was why they latched on to Trump, who is not a professional politician but a successful businessman. But Trump is not a Republican at heart, let alone a Conservative. At times, he sounds like a Democrat. Trump is for single-payer medical care. He had donated money to Hillary Clinton’s previous campaigns.

But what broke the Trumpian camel’s back was saying in an interview that President George Bush lied to get the US into a war in Iraq. Bush is still respected among Republicans. Trump’s views are more in keeping with far left groups like Code Pink or MoveOn.org.  I think his popularity is on the way down. People are beginning to see him for what he really is: A Democrat in Republican clothing.

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Not the American people in question, but Republican “voters”.

Believe it when you see it.

FOX News2/15 – 2/17 404 LV Trump +17

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl2/14 – 2/16 400 LV Cruz +2

CBS News2/12 – 2/16 581 LV Trump +17

USA Today/Suffolk2/11 – 2/15 358 LV Trump +15

Quinnipiac2/10 – 2/15 602 LV Trump +20

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

So, you look at all those polls, see the OUTLIER and conclude ”have Americans finally come to their senses?”
I look at those polls, see the OUTLIER and ask, what was the methodology?
Oh, take a look at that methodology.
See if you can spot why that poll turned out the way it did.

And, more to the point, the Fox poll was released (to Fox) on the same day as the NBC /Wall StJournal poll yet held away from the public until after the NBC/WallStJournal poll got as much coverage as the media could give it, considering the Trump/Pope ”feud” stole headlines in the afternoon.
Ask yourself why Fox sat on their own poll (not an OUTLIER) for so many hours.

Mr Lee do you think that the GOP majority Cingress which has approval ratings in the teens bears any responsibility for any of the problems you see in the USA?
Obama has polls about 3times as high as Congress
And 3 times Bush’s lowest polls

the choices:
1. a man born in the USA to two Cuban citizens – not eligible. Additionally his priority is illegals and not American citizens. (rubio) If the only criteria was to be born in the US, anyone born in this country to to foreign citizen parents could run for president regardless where they live. case in point American born terrorist awlaki.
2. a man born in Canada to a Cuban citizen father, and supposedly a US citizen mother. Research now is found that she was registered to vote in Canada at the time of his birth, and was probably a Canadian citizen. His US citizenship is in question, regardless not natural born, and not eligible. He is deep in wall street and big banks – one of his donors is billionaire hedge fund manager mercer, not to mention the million dollar plus loan he received from Gold man-Sachs that he ‘forgot’ to mention when he filed to run for office. (cruz)
3. a man who has stated he is an avowed socialist. He wants to tax the American people until they can’t stand it any longer, and tells the youth they can get everything for free. Of course that bill is 15 TRILLION which those youth will be paying for until they die. He also has stated that he wants to fundamentally change the US (where have you heard that before), and believes the collective is more important than the individual. (communism) (sanders)
4. a woman who has committed treason by aiding and abetting the enemy when she allowed highly classified information to be stored on an unsecure server stored in the bathroom of a democrat donor. A woman who allowed four men to die in Benghazi for the sake of politics. (clinton)

I personally am concerned about the security of our nation. I am concerned about the illegal situation, and the possible influx of muslim refugees. In 2014 500 billion dollars of our tax money was used to fund illegals. I want a wall built. I want my country back, and I want most of all AMERICAN citizens to be the priority.

Do I like everything that Trump does? No. I would be naive to believe that I would agree with 100% of what he or any other candidate stands for. However this man can clean house. Why do you think the establishment, MSM and the liberal celebrities are in an uproar? They know he can’t be bought and he is stating what should have been talked about a long time ago and they know if Trump is elected their goose is cooked. We need a clean slate, we need to get our country back in order for the sake of our children and their children. I do not want to go to my grave knowing that my children might be living in a country where the crescent moon and star waves above the WH.

@Enchanted: It is beyond my comprehension why Conservative Evangelical Christians of South Carolina would chose Trump over Cruz—-I see the race tightening. Trump by 4-7% rather than double digit predicted

Nan “Coming to their senses” means voting for Trump.?? You call yourself a Conservative.

But what broke the Trumpian camel’s back was saying in an interview that President George Bush lied to get the US into a war in Iraq. Bush is still respected among Republicans.

How is that a ‘factor’? GWB himself is saying he lied about WMD’s, even though he did not and there was then, and still are, WMD’s in Iraq.

Enchanted: Good summary of the candidates. Basically it gets down to there is only one ‘legitimate’ candidate that has promised to do something about the security of the borders of the country and to help the employment situation in the country, and that can actually do what he says. For some reason, we have one party in this country that no longer wants a free country, only a socialist state where they live on handouts from the people that are willing to work to put food on the table. Trump is the only candidate in the campaign that comes close to promising to improve the status quo of Christians. Even the pope is now hiring ‘non Christians’ to be his body guards. According to him, they have guns so they have to be non Christian. And he lives behind 40 foot walls, something a ‘real’ Christian would not do.

@Richard Wheeler:

It is beyond my comprehension why Conservative Evangelical Christians of South Carolina

Richie, I’m not sure what constitutes an ‘evangelical’ Christian vs just a Christian, but as you might recall, I lived in South Carolina for many years just prior to coming to Louisiana and you can take it from me, the people in South Carolina feel generally much as I do.

@Richard Wheeler: Evangelicals see through a man who holds the Bible one moment then lies through his teeth the very next.
As to my credentials, I was raised in CA, where I was a Republican, not a Conservative.
I doubt I have EVER referred to myself as a Conservative.
Especially not a ”social conservative,” who believes in imposing their moral standards on everybody else.

For example:
I have pretty much always (since Row V Wade) believed that God will wreak vengeance upon murderers of children, even babies in the womb. I also believe no country has God’s favor. In the USA men rule, not God. The laws of men can assuage the consciences of killers, but it only lasts in this lifetime. Thus I could care less what laws this human government makes over human activity. As for me and my household, we will follow God’s admonishments.

However, when this country does have laws on its own books but its leaders decide to ignore them: the border, the criminal illegals, I feel free to try to put their feet to the fire.
Which candidate will do that for the border and criminal illegals?
Basically only Cruz and Trump.
Rubio, Bush, Kasich, Bernie and Hillary are all Open Border’s, even let the felons get jobs and even vote crowd.
We’ve had 7+ years of a social liberal who has imposed his own moral standards on our entire country.
It is disgusting.
I only hope for a next president who won’t try to do that.
Not a ”social conservative” at all.

I will be satisfied with any of the Republican candidates as the nominee (except Kasich or Bush). Nevertheless, I will vote for any of them over the choice of the People’s Democratic Socialist Party. Trump is not a conservative, but something even better. He’s an independent thinker, towing no party line or political orthodoxy. I like his middle finger and anti-pc approach. You know where he stands because he doesn’t care what either side thinks. Saying that, I still would feel better with Cruz leading the country. Even Rubio and Carson are good candidates. Instead of trying to destroy each other’s favorite candidate, we should focus on defeating socialist policy and leftist madness.

@Nanny G: One breath you say social Conservatives impose their values on everyone else–in the next you say it’s social Liberals that do so—which is it? Do you consider yourself an Evangelical Christian-Are you agreeing with Trump that Cruz is a “huge liar”?
RT-and Nan–to me Evangelical Christian–literal reading of the Bible example-believing in “the rapture”–anti gay marriage-born again baptism.
VS. Traditional Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans–majority of Catholics and other Christian followers.

@Richard Wheeler:

RT-and Nan–to me Evangelical Christian–

If I attempted a definition it would be along the lines: Christian, a believer in Jesus Christ as our Savior. Evangelical: Spread the good news . Put them together: Someone who believes in spreading the good news about Christ.
Don’t think it has anything to do with ‘anti-gay marriage’

Do you know anyone that believes in Christ that is not in favor of spreading the good news?

@Richard Wheeler:
Yes, strong social conservatives AND liberals (esp Obama) have attempted to impose their morals on everybody else.
Obama has gone so far as to try to tell religious orders what they believe!
He still tries to tell Americans what a Muslim believes.
His standards about allowing what-ever-you-think-you-are into which-ever-bathroom-you-feel-like is not working well where it is being put into practice.

As to your definition of evangelical, if that’s it I am NOT one.
If Redteam’s definition is it, I am one.

My view of Ted Cruz?
He covered up his close financial ties with big banks (Goldman-Sachs and Citi) by incorrectly reporting huge loans from them to him.
He lied about Ben Carson at 6:59 PM of caucus night, just long enough to steal a few votes then ”apologized” without firing anyone responsible.
He sent out deceptive mailers in one state after another.
He takes old quotes out of context then tries to twist them into a message that RIGHT NOW the candidate stands by those old views.
(Think if someone did that about gay marriage and Hillary.)
He waits until it is too late to correct him and sends out (OK, his superPAC) robocalls filled with lies.
Right now we are waiting for March 1 when Ill. will have a judicial hearing on whether Ted Cruz is allowed on the ballot, based on his birth out of the country to a Canadian-registered-voter mom and a Cuban immigrant to Canada dad.

As a proud liberal I am pleased with the voting in SC
25% voted for the Conservative in SC?
What states won’t Trump carry? Utah Texas and Idaho
Looks to me like a reputation of conservatism by the GOP primary voters

@John:
Out of 50 counties in South Carolina, Trump won all 50.
Thus he got EVERY delegate for South Carolina.
All that work, all those votes and yet Cruz and Rubio got ZERO delegates.

As to Utah, the Mormon codgers run this state.
They are pro-Romney which translates into anti-Trump.
Utah has a 1/2 primary (for us rabble) and 1/2 caucus for the power brokers.
No matter how the rabble votes the codgers who own all the caucus spots will vote Rubio….they would have voted Bush but he’s gone.
As member of the Utah GOP we have been invited to try out for caucus spots. But I think there is a secret handshake.

As the inimitable Mark Steyne quipped, no one likes Trump except the voters. Although now that Bush has dropped out it will be interesting to see what becomes of his twentyfive supporters. As for Trump being a clown: extremely wealthy, many successful businesses and careers, a beautiful wife and an adoring family. Where do I sign up for Clown School?

@John:

What states won’t Trump carry? Utah Texas and Idaho

I think that in Texas that Trump will carry the legal votes. Their huge population of illegals that are illegally voting will likely vote for open borders. Most land owners will prefer those that are for law and order.

@Robert What?:If you got a few grand you could sign up for his school Trump University where he’ll teach you to be a real estate tycoon just like him—wait– that went belly up amidst charges of fraud.
Beautiful wife–he’s had 3 of em.

RT “Legal votes”–white male landowners you say..Agree Trump will win those.–It’s those damn pesky minority voters that’ll give him trouble.

@Nanny G:

Right now we are waiting for March 1 when Ill. will have a judicial hearing on whether Ted Cruz is allowed on the ballot, based on his birth out of the country to a Canadian-registered-voter mom and a Cuban immigrant to Canada dad.

So why don’t you tell us who the Powered Wig Society is? And why you eliminated the fact that the claims made by them also claim that Rubio is ineligible for the position he is seeking?

I have to say this, Nan: I have been previously impressed with your intellect and level headedness on this board. No longer. I am constantly amazed how otherwise rational thinking people can spew the Trumpisms as if they are gospel all the while ignoring Trumps own past.

We decry how politicians seemingly can be bought, yet Trump bought many. We deploy the moral decay in our nation, yet you support a man who seems to have no problems lacing his speeches with profanity or admitting how he bedded married women while he, himself, was married. He owes billions of $$ to banks, including Goldman Sachs, which gets ignored. We laugh at John Kerry who was for an issue before he was against it, yet Trump’s entire campaign is built on him now being for/against something before he was against/for it. We mock the people who blindly supported Obama’s “hope and change” with no solid idea of what that was yet you have bought into Trump’s “Make America Great Again”, a slogan he plagiarized from Reagan, a slogan that has as much meaning as “I Like Ike” and insinuates America is not great (it is).

Trump may very well win. But he will do it because Americans are more interested in a Kardashian candidate then their own national good. And he will do it without my vote. I am not trading one charlatan for another.

Neither should you be willing to do that.

http://danaloeschradio.com/how-i-came-to-my-opinion-on-donald-trump

@Redteam:

I think that in Texas that Trump will carry the legal votes.

Early voting started last Tuesday. I don’t know but two in my county that voted for Trump in early voting.

Their huge population of illegals that are illegally voting will likely vote for open borders.

I.D. is required in Texas. A person is required to show photo I.D. to vote, that would include a driver’s license (which illegals cannot get in Texas), military I.D.or current passport along with a voter registration card. I presented both my driver’s license and voter registration card. If not correct, a provisional ballot is cast and those are generally thrown out due to discrepancies.

@Richard Wheeler:

It’s those damn pesky minority voters that’ll give him trouble.

Pesky, if the polls didn’t already show Trump leading among all minority groups in the US: liberals especially.

Trump’s going to you be your new President, junior. Get over it now. When you get some years under your belt, it will all make sense,.

@Nathan Blue: “Trump leading among all minority groups”–the only polls that show him leading any minority groups are the ones in his head.
Re age—I served as a Marine Corps Officer in Viet Nam 67-68–do the math—did you even serve twinkie?

@Richard Wheeler: 17–

It’s those damn pesky minority voters that’ll give him trouble.

especially the illegal ones and the dead ones.

Beautiful wife–he’s had 3 of em.

yes, if he keeps that up he’ll have a harem like Webb.

@retire05:

Trump may very well win. But he will do it because Americans are more interested in a Kardashian candidate then their own national good. And he will do it without my vote. I am not trading one charlatan for another.

It really is a dilemma. I don’t see any alternative. I’ve said from the beginning that Trump was not my favorite, but Walker dropped out, Perry dropped out. Rubio and Cruz are not eligible, Kasich has become a nut, Christie was always a big blow hard. Bush is an open borders guy. Bernie and Clinton are the worst of any of the choices. So who does that leave to vote for? Trump says he will close the border. Does that mean he will? I don’t know, but we know that no one else is even saying they want to. Even if Rubio were eligible, according to his own words and record he might be every bit as bad as Obama has been. If I thought Carson had any chance at all, I’d support him. but his chances are less than zero. I think the only ‘real’ thing Trump has going for him is that he’s not a ‘politician’. Is what he says true, who knows? I just don’t see an alternative.

#18 –

Good to see you back in the discussions.

I pretty much agree with what you said, especially trading one charlatan for another. My choice not to support Trump from the get-go was when he said “prisoners of war get too much credit” and when he said he “preferred those that did not get captured.” I didn’t like his comment then and I don’t like it now. He tried walking away from it, or saying it was taken out of context, but the video doesn’t lie. My dad was a prisoner of war in Korea. I took it as the ultimate insult, my dad just shook his head.

About Trump making America great again, his Making America Great Again” ball caps are made in China.

@retire05:

I.D. is required in Texas. A person is required to show photo I.D. to vote, that would include a driver’s license (which illegals cannot get in Texas), military I.D.or current passport along with a voter registration card.

I realize that is supposed to be the case, but Texas is famous for the surprise ballot boxes from remote counties showing up with 100% voting for Dimocrats. Louisiana has very tough requirements to cast a ballot also. I don’t believe they even allow ‘provisional’. But we certainly have to have photo ID’s. I hope Texas voting is all above board, as I wish every state were. Ohio consistently turns out over 100% of persons in counties and they all vote Dimocratic. I don’t think they have any laws covering voting in that state. Some others seem to be as bad (Illinois is reputed to be among the worst).

@David:

his Making America Great Again” ball caps are made in China.

Anyone ordering ball caps now that want to get them in time for this election have to get them from either Mexico or China. I don’t think any company makes caps in the US at this time. True for T shirts as well.

I didn’t care for Trumps remarks about McCain and prisoners of war but what I’m unhappy with McCain about has nothing to do with his military service, it all has to do with him being elected as a Republican but siding with the Dimocrats on everything that matters.
If there were a suitable alternative to Trump, I will vote for them, but as of today, there is none. We’ll see how that works out.

@David: Trump dodged V.N. service then badmouths POW’S–POS.
He is classless—a true charlatan.-We’ve got Trumpeteers here at F.A :that display the same characteristics.–LEMMINGS I don’t think the American voters will roll over for this Reality T.V. Kardashian–they are better than that.-
“America great again” hats made in China—says it all -what a phony
I’ve noticed guys like you and Word, Brother Bob and Dr,J,, A.V and Curt don’t buy his snake oil.
There is hope Semper Fi RW

@Richard Wheeler:

don’t buy his snake oil.

I’ve never bought any snake oil. What is it used for? I’ve never heard of changing oil in snakes, I just assumed they manufactured their own. Where do you buy your snake oil, since you say you don’t ‘buy his’? Did everyone that did not serve in VietNam “dodge service in VN?” Is dodging service in VN as bad as being a ‘draft dodger’ as Clinton (one of your idols)was? Did Hillary also dodge service in VN?

@Redteam: I have no political idols–well except for JFK.
Word called Trump a snake oil salesman
David called him a charlatan
I concur
Let’s say Trump dodged the draft to avoid serving in Viet Nam–how’s that

@Richard Wheeler:

Let’s say Trump dodged the draft to avoid serving in Viet Nam–how’s that

You obviously don’t understand the difference in draft dodging and medical deferments/rejections. Bill Clinton was legally a felony draft dodger. He left the country after he had received his notice for induction. Donald Trump reported for his induction physical and was rejected. Quite a difference.
You made the statement about persons selling snake oil. You should at least know what it is being used for. I’ve never heard of anyone using snake oil.

@Redteam: snake oil salesman “someone who knowingly sells fraudulent goods or who themselves is a fraud a quack* or a Charlatan.”
* if it quacks like The Donald—
Why won’t The Donald tell us why he was physically rejected from service?
BTW He has produced no draft records–his daddy did send him to military scool–maybe he thinks that’s good enough-
Did you see where David’s dad was a Korean War POW—“Shook his head” when he heard Trump’s POW statements.
Seems you’ve softened your comments about Mac’s time as a POW–Believe you implied he “aided and abetted”

What amazes me is how some want to trash Trump but when given a choice between Hilldabeast a known liar and treasonous crook I will take Trump!! He is NOT my first choice but he would be against with this scenario “period”!!

@Richard Wheeler: How does Trump dodging the draft make him ineligible to be President?? Also, HIlldabeast committed treason and she’s running for President. She lied over the blood of Americans returned home due to her incompetence. You want to talk about draft dodging?? Give me a break!!

@Common Sense: Never said he was ineligible–won’t vote for him or HRC.

@Richard Wheeler: :

snake oil salesman “someone who knowingly sells fraudulent goods or who themselves is a fraud a quack*

best describes Bill and Hill, Bernie and Rubio, I’d say.

Why won’t The Donald tell us why he was physically rejected from service?

He did, he said he had a bad foot. How many times did you demand that Bill tell us why he was a felony draft dodger?

Did you see where David’s dad was a Korean War POW—“Shook his head” when he heard Trump’s POW statements.

I certainly have sympathy for anyone that was a POW. I don’t think we can really fault McCain for being a collaborator, seems as if he were tortured quite a bit. I think most would under those conditions. As I’ve said, McCain’s service after vietnam is deplorable, that record alone is enough to hold him accountable for.

Seems you’ve softened your comments about Mac’s time as a POW–Believe you implied he “aided and abetted”

I don’t think I’ve softened them at all. I think it is well documented that he aided and abetted. I think he did it after being tortured, the same as ‘most’ people would. I don’t hold him to any higher standard than I would myself. I think he should have told them anything he knew, I don’t see where that would have helped the NV in any way. He was only an attack pilot off of the Forrestal. What could he have told them that they didn’t already know that would have helped them? Nothing. He did as he should and I find no fault with his military service or his time as a POW. He’s become a traitor to his party since he got elected.

@Richard Wheeler

: won’t vote for him or HRC.

yes you will. If that’s the two candidates, you will vote for one of them.

@Common Sense: It was Bill that was the felony draft dodger. Trump reported as ordered and was turned down for medical reasons. You can’t believe lies that RW puts out.

Common Sense Have you seen me lying?
Trumpeteer RT, like his idol The Donald ,enjoys making false accusations. Please let me know if you’ve seen me lying Doc.

@Richard Wheeler: I didn’t make the accusation. I don’t believe I have ever accused you of lying. Unless you accused Bush of lying about WMD in Iraq.

@Common Sense: I honesty don’t know the full WMD story.
Bush made a statement recently that he didn’t know if they existed—difficult subject–seems to be no definitive answer.

@Redteam:

Rubio and Cruz are not eligible

So says the guy who is NOT a Constitutional/legal scholar. Odd that many Constitutional/legal scholars, on both sides of the aisle disagree with you.

Trump says he will close the border. Does that mean he will? I don’t know, but we know that no one else is even saying they want to.

How do you come to that conclusion? Others, including Rick Perry, have been screaming about the need to shut down our porous border for years.

. I think the only ‘real’ thing Trump has going for him is that he’s not a ‘politician’. Is what he says true, who knows? I just don’t see an alternative.

Make no mistake; Trump is the definitive “politician”. Except he wouldn’t know what our Constitution means if it were written on his forearm. He is a poseur, a foul-mouthed carnival barker who you can’t depend on to govern according to our Constitution any more than Obama has.

But if you want to sell your nation out with a vote for the chameleon Donald Trump, that is your choice.

@Richard Wheeler: Ok then we are clear. What really bothers me is those who accuse Bush of lying on this topic. I believe he may have been wrong but that is far far from lying. He looked at the intel at the time as did the Democrats including HRC and congress including over 70 Democrats agreed. Was the intel accurate, that is a real question but still to accuse Bush of lying on the subject is in my view disgraceful. A lie indicates intention. Now if you ask me if Obama new that he was lying about those millions of Americans who LOST their health insurance or shovel ready jobs, I could draw a similar conclusion. Did HRC know that Benghazi was a terrorist act and not caused by a video?? Good question.

@Richard Wheeler:

Common Sense Have you seen me lying?

RW you are clearly lying when you say Trump was a draft dodger. Do you think there is a threshold, that you can tell some number of lies before you’re lying? I’d think once you’ve told one, that would put you into a category.
Oh, you need another example of you lying: try this:

Trumpeteer RT, like his idol The Donald ,enjoys making false accusations.

When have I ever said Trump is my first choice? That’s just one of your lies. You can say you’re not a liar, but it would be just one more.

No

@Common Sense: I do know Trump outright accused “W” of lying– also accuses Cruz of being “the biggest liar.”
Yet we have “Trumpeteers”–coined by Word–who defend and support this “foul-mouthed carnival barker”–from 05—Why? what does it say about them?

RT Lets see 5 left You say Cruz and Rubio ineligible–You can’t stand Kasich-said Carson can’t win–Leaves Trump as your choice-you’ve said so–if he’s not your first choice have the guts to say so and stand up for your choice.

@Richard Wheeler:

Bush made a statement recently that he didn’t know if they existed

that’s not what he said at all.

@Redteam: I was being kind. What did he say Trumpeteer?

@retire05:

So says the guy who is NOT a Constitutional/legal scholar. Odd that many Constitutional/legal scholars, on both sides of the aisle disagree with you.

The definition of ‘natural born citizen’ has never been questioned until BHO decided to run for president. No one has to be a ‘constitutional scholar’ (after all Cruz ‘claims’ to be one, and see how he lies about it) to know what a natural born citizen is and to know that neither Cruz, Rubio, Jindal or BHO are in that category.

Others, including Rick Perry, have been screaming about the need to shut down our porous border for years.

I didn’t realize Perry was still a candidate for Pres. That’s one of the reasons I had Rick Perry on my short list originally, along with Scott Walker.

But if you want to sell your nation out with a vote for the chameleon Donald Trump, that is your choice.

Who is the alternative? I’ve said all along Trump is not my first choice, but none of my first choices remain in the race. I certainly can’t vote for an ineligible person, BHO was a good example of why that was a mistake.

Make no mistake; Trump is the definitive “politician”.

I think you have to stretch the meaning of the word to include Trump. Cruz has never had a non political job. Rubio has never had a non political job, Hillary has never had a non political job. Trump has NEVER had a political job. Is Trump saying the things he thinks is necessary to get elected or is he saying these things because he believes, for example, that the border has to be controlled? Who knows. We know that Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, Bernie, etc are politicians and are saying what people want to hear just so they will vote for them. That hasn’t been proven to be the case with Trump. It certainly may be, but he hasn’t been proven to be a liar, yet.

Who is the alternative, that has a chance of being elected?

@Richard Wheeler:

if he’s not your first choice have the guts to say so and stand up for your choice.

I did already. Walker was my first choice. Where I come from, you only get one ‘first choice’. Perry was my 2nd choice, he dropped out, Kasich was my third choice, he’s suddenly lost his mind. So now we’re down to some other choice, probably 5th or 6th and I don’t see anyone but Trump left. I likely, for the first time in my voting years, will not vote for President. It won’t matter in La because Trump will win so big that he won’t need my vote..

@Richard Wheeler:

I was being kind. What did he say Trumpeteer?

So you were lying about him and don’t even know what he said? That’s kinda standard practice for libs.