“Help me, Dad”: A daughter dies needlessly in San Francisco because Obama’s illegals “trump” the safety of Americans

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The account of Kate Steinle’s death is gripping and sad.

He recalled: ‘We walked down to the Embarcadero and had lunch at a place called Perry’s. We walked over to the ferry building and Kate wanted to go into one of the stores there to check on some pottery items she’d ordered.

‘We walked out of the ferry building and down to the middle of the pier. It was a beautiful, cool evening with a little breeze. We turned around and Kate took a selfie of us. We kept on walking and heard this pop.’

Mr. Steinle said: ‘Kate said “Help me dad” and fell to the ground. I gave her mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and a woman came over and said “Can I help?” I said, “someone needs to call 911”. I had my hands around her, held her head. We rolled her over on her side that we thought had been injured and sure enough that’s where she’d been shot.

A father unable to help his daughter. Unable to save her. It’s a terrible feeling. I once was summoned to the ER to work on a 21 year old woman who had been in an MVA. As we began to examine her fractured jaw she coded. We worked on her for forty five minutes to no avail. We were unable to save her.

Later we learned that she had suffered an aortic dissection consequent to her AP chest compression in the MVA. It was of little comfort. We couldn’t save her.

As sad as we were, not being able to save your little girl is far worse.

Kate Steinle did not have to die. She died because one of Obama’s Latino nephews killed her. She died because her illegal alien murderer knew he’d safe in the sanctuary city of San Francisco. Liberals killed Kate Steinle as sure as did Francisco Sanchez.

Tragically, Steinle’s death is not unique. Since 2010 121 murders have been attributed to illegal aliens with 14 deaths in 2015 alone.

The United States is infected with 347,000 convicted criminals released into the general population by the Obama regime. Chew on that for a moment.

Hillary Clinton said she’s “disappointed” in Donald Trump’s words excoriating the damage illegal aliens have done to the people of this country. Typically, she conflated legal immigrants and illegal immigrants in her phony rant:

“I don’t care how many people running for president on the Republican side try to demean immigrants, insult immigrants, cast aspersions on immigrants,”

In all her sputtering indignation, something was missing- the victims of illegal alien crimes and their families.

It says a lot about Hillary that she apparently wasn’t disappointed in Kate Steinle’s death.

And then there’s Obama. When it came to gun control Obama had this to say:

“If there is even one thing we can do to reduce this violence, if there’s even one life that can be saved, we’ve got an obligation to try.”

Yet when it came to protecting the borders from illegal alien criminals Obama made clear to ICE that amnesty…what’s the word I’m looking for…“trumped” the safety of US citizens. When it comes to illegals, one American life is no longer holds significance.

Does anyone wonder if Obama will issue a statement on Steinle’s death as he did for Freddie Gray, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin? How many aides will he send to Steinle’s funeral?

Kate Steinle deserved the protection of her country and her President. Instead, Obama and liberals gave her a Dirty Sanchez.

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Liberals wanted to boycott AZ for presuming to write an immigration law that mirrored federal immigration law. “States should not be allowed to write their own immigration laws” we were told.

Let’s see just how consistent they are and see how many demand a boycott of so called “Sanctuary Cities”? #BanSanctuaryCities

This is what D.C has brought down on our heads:

First, the resume of the criminal profiler who conducted the study:

http://immigration.procon.org/view.source.php?sourceID=002920

Now, her study:

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=5610

And just recently:

an illegal alien beat his wife to death with a hammer in Larado, Texas. He had been previously deported FOUR times.

another illegal alien ran his vehicle into the car of a woman, seriously injuring her and her two very young children. He was high on drugs at time. He had previously been deported SIX times.

With an estimated 12 million undocumented aliens in the country, republicans are doing their best to block Obama’s immigration directives that would curtail the deportation of useful and well-meaning people so that limited manpower and resources can be more tightly focused on those who represent a serious threat—such as Francisco Sanchez. So, Trump is blaming Obama, and exploiting a young woman’s death to get some attention.

Trump can go to hell.

@Greg: More important than deporting anyone (of which Obama is doing a piss poor job) is to stop the flow of new illegals, which Obama thinks is funny, so he makes jokes about alligators in a moat.

Wonder if Kate Steinle’s family would enjoy a good alligator in the moat joke along about now?

I wonder how the family feels about Donald Trump politically exploiting their daughter’s death?

@Greg:

A couple of things. First, Trump was on this the before the shooting. Second, it’s in the linked article:

Asked about Trump’s stance, Mr. Steinle said: ‘That’s the Donald being the Donald and we’re not going to get caught up in that.

when we have a multiple mass murders the right wing nationalists always say “don’t politicize this tragedy”
Yet THEY seem to act gleeful when something like this happens
Dancing on her body to make a political point
Just like they did with BENGHAZZI!!

When my second grandson was born, he had a prolapsed cord. An emergency C-section had to be performed. Everything went well, though with all the doctors rushing around and yelling, it gave my wife and I quite a scare. QUITE a scare.

Afterwards, we were told we could go and visit my daughter. When we walked into the room, we heard her say, in her weak, drug-stupor voice, “I want my daddy.”

I still get choked up remembering hearing those words because, once the kids are grown and out of the house, with lives and families, you think you will never hear anything like that again.

Now, consider this father hearing his daughter’s weakening voice, asking him to save her. Save her from what? An incident that happened due to a person that should never have been here in the first place and for which there were FIVE separate opportunities to avoid. And the left simply does not care. All they care about is managing the political damage.

It says a lot about Hillary that she apparently wasn’t disappointed in Kate Steinle’s death.

Oh, this just in; Hillary now says the sanctuaries are a mistake; a direct reversal of what she HAS been saying:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/Lawmakers-Feds-Deported-Francisco-Sanchez-Steinle-Pier-14-312193501.html

http://www.hngn.com/articles/107136/20150707/hillary-clinton-supports-sanctuary-cities-protect-dangerous-illegal-immigrants-expand.htmHillary supported sanctuary cities

ALL the Democrat candidates support sanctuary cities.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/05/all-four-democratic-presidential-candidates-support-sanctuary-cities-video/

The corrupt media asked all the Republican candidates if they supported removal of the Confederate flag, but NONE ask ANY Democrat candidates about their support for sanctuary cities.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/05/all-four-democratic-presidential-candidates-support-sanctuary-cities-video/

Democrats, are the votes of illegal immigrants worth the lives of innocent girls, boys, men and women? What the hell am I saying…. to the liberal, OF COURSE they are. The ends always justifies the means.

@Greg:

I wonder how the family feels about Donald Trump politically exploiting their daughter’s death?

You don’t worry about that when the left is exploiting very selective gun crimes, do you? Besides, all Trump has said since this murder is, “See? I told you so.”, whereas Obama adopts the victim/criminal as his own family and repeats every lie about the incident he can get his hands on. Get the F*** out of here with your “exploiting” BS. You, like every other liberal, don’t care one whit about anyone’s life if it can be exploited for political gain; you don’t care about Kate Steinle’s life because she is a political black eye. If you possessed any morals or conscience, you would be profoundly ashamed.

I sincerely hope this DOES get “exploited”; exploited to the maximum effect possible, because it is indicative of the very nature of the American liberal; enact policies that harm the nation and endanger citizens, then point fingers and blame everyone but themselves when (not if) disaster ensues. Use this, Republicans to attack and destroy liberals, because liberals are attacking and destroying this nation.

Does anyone remember Angel Resendez? Of course not. Resendez was just one of millions of illegals that commit crimes in our nation, day after day. Resendez was infamously known as “The Railroad Killer” and it is known that he murdered at least 24 Americans as he road the rails all across the eastern half of the United States. Law agencies say that number is probably higher, much higher by dozens, than the known 24.

Resendez was an illegal alien from Mexico who crossed our southern border with abandon for over a decade. And while his identity was unknown, he was placed on the “Most Wanted” list by the FBI that couldn’t seem to locate him. And when Resendez wasn’t slaughtering Americans, he was busy voting, voting in at least two presidential primary elections. Resendez was executed by the State of Texas in 2006 after having been convicted in 1999.

Why do I bring him up? Because our border has been a joke for decades.

Gullible Greggie, the ever reliable lemming of the left, can blame Republicans all they want, but Resendez did the bulk of his killing under a Democrat president, Bill Clinton. And Gullible Greggie refuses to tell us why Obama didn’t get his “give amnesty to the illegals” program passed when the Democrats had total control of both houses of Congress during Obama’s first two years in office.

While what Donald Trump said might have been less than glowing rhetoric, he’s right about what is going on. It is not the Ph.D.’s, or the highly educated of Mexico, and points south, that are bleeding across our southern border. It is the peon class that are not taken care of by their own governments. The Mexican Consulates, located in many U.S. cities, are advising its citizens how to access welfare programs in the U.S. Obama’s administration even ran radio ads, in Spanish, in Mexico, on how to access U.S. welfare programs once the Mexicans reached El Norte. How is that discouraging illegal entry? It’s not.

It is a great deal for Mexico; we send them jobs by building manufacturing plants in Mexico, and they send us the dreg of their society. Just like Cuba when it cleaned out its prisons by sending those prisoners to the U.S. No difference. And in return, Mexico gets over $25 BILLION sent back to it each year in remittances sent by the dreg out of our economy.

I have long been tired of the excuses “they just come here to work” and “we can’t break up families”. They are coming here to leech off the system, to commit crimes and as far as breaking up families, the illegals did that when they entered our country illegally. Any one want to guess how many of those there were part of the influx of illegals last year have been deported? I’m sure Gullible Greggie has the number.

Can anyone tell me why a county clerk (a government employee) can be sued for not issuing a same sex marriage license but a city council cannot be sued for refusing to enforce federal immigration laws claiming a government exemption against suing government employees?

This young woman’s parents should sue the entire city of San Francisco for the death of their daughter. And all federal monies should be withheld from any sanctuary city.

@Bill, #7:

Get the F*** out of here with your “exploiting” BS.

It is exploitation, of a particularly despicable sort, and coupled with a lie. Trump should get the of the spotlight. He won’t, of course, because attention is all he’s in it for. I don’t know who I’d most prefer to see much less of at this point—Trump or Bill Cosby.

The fact of the matter is that Obama’s efforts to shift limited funding and manpower from the general undocumented population to focus more narrowly on the undocumented criminal element is far more beneficial to the nation than the republican approach of treating all illegals equally as criminals, to be arrested, processed and deported in whatever order they come to the Department of Justice’s attention—particularly with republican state officials attempting to set up local laws and procedures that would totally overload federal agencies with an unmanageable workload which Congressional republicans have no intention whatsoever of providing the additional funding and manpower to deal with.

The republican game would seem to be tough talk and dramatic posturing about illegal immigration to garner votes, while doing absolutely nothing useful to address the resultant problems. Typically they try to attach all blame to Obama—who has actually attempted to address the situation—while ignoring the fact that illegal immigration peaked on his predecessor’s watch, but has significantly declined on Obama’s. What increased on Obama’s watch was the rate of deportations.

The GOP has had majorities in both the House and Senate for over half-a-year at this point. What have they done about illegal immigration or the nation’s resultant problems? The same as with ISIS: Not a damn thing, unless you want to count repeated efforts to keep the President from doing anything.

@Greg:

The GOP has had majorities in both the House and Senate for over half-a-year at this point. What have they done about illegal immigration or the nation’s resultant problems? The same as with ISIS: Not a damn thing,

And exactly what did the Democrats due the first two years of Obama’s reign, Gullible Greggie? They were in total control, yet nothing got done. NOTHING.

Give us your acceptable number of slaughtered Americans so that Democrats can pander to future Democrat voters illegal aliens. How many, Gullible Greggie?

Wise up, Bubba. you’re no safer from being slaughtered than that young lady in San Francisco was. When it happens to one of your family members, you will bee singing a different tune.

You’re not only an idiot, you’re full of crap.

@Greg: 3

republicans are doing their best to block Obama’s immigration directives

Yep, It’s George Bush’s fault. Actually that legislation Greggie is talking about just opens the border a little more and increasing the odds that more criminals come in. There is no evidence at all that Obama wants to deport any illegal aliens, especially criminal ones.

@john: You’re out of your mind.

@Greg:

The fact of the matter is that Obama’s efforts to shift limited funding and manpower from the general undocumented population to focus more narrowly on the undocumented criminal element is far more beneficial to the nation than the republican approach of treating all illegals equally as criminal

You said that as a joke, right? Let’s see if I got that right. You’ve never committed a crime, but you decide to kill your wife. So you do. You should get a pass, right? There’s people out there that have committed two crimes and they should be arrested first. Right? Even tho their crimes were stealing food for their family? Nope, ALL criminals need to be arrested. Illegal aliens should serve whatever sentence the crime calls for then deported and if they ever are caught back in this country get a minimum ‘mandated’ sentence of 5 years.

Trump is really starting to get to the libs. He calls a spade a spade and they don’t like that he’s right. He just happened to point out why the illegal alien epidemic is so bad when some illegals get up and give us a ‘show and tell’. I suspect Trump is gonna offend many more before it’s over.

@Greg: 11

Typically they try to attach all blame to Obama—who has actually attempted to address the situation—while ignoring the fact that illegal immigration peaked on his predecessor’s watch,

Greg, could you try to make just one post that doesn’t include “it’s Bush’s fault”? There was a point in Obama’s reign when he controlled both houses. Why didn’t he pass the immigration laws then? Perhaps he wouldn’t have Bush to blame?

@Greg:

It is exploitation, of a particularly despicable sort, and coupled with a lie.

So, what is it when a deranged person shoots up a school and the left, before the bodies are cold, hops back on the gun control mantra, even though NONE of their proposals addresses a nut that killed someone and took their gun? What is it when a nut shoots up a church with a pistol and the left goes back to wanting to ban “assault rifles”? And, what is the “lie”.

Ha! You’re just pissed because this was a murder by an illegal immigrant released by Obama’s “catch and release” program which occurred in a sanctuary city with a stolen gun from a federal agent; YOU HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME FOR ANY ASPECT OF THIS TRAGEDY!!!!! It’s all liberal, all the way.

No, I repeat, get the F*** out with your lame BS. Manpower shortage? Obama sent troops to the border but kept hem 600 miles away doing paperwork. He has money to give to Solyndra, why not apply that to the border? And, how much money would it take NOT to advertise that we will take in, house, provide medical treatment and feed any and all that are sent over?

The Democrats did NOTHING with their 100% control of Congress and the White House. If the Republicans could have gotten reform passed, Obama would have vetoed it. Besides, we already have LAWS against illegal immigration and Obama has executive ordered ICE NOT to enforce them. Was the budget cut for ICE BEFORE he issued the executive order to ignore the immigration laws? If not, then the money for them to operate should have been there. Weak and silly.

Obviously, you amoral leftists think “never let a crisis go to waste” is great policy, but cannot stand to have an issue rubbed in your face when your corruption and recklessness gets someone killed. This is no exploitation; Trump made factual statements about our border and immigration problems, the left attacked him for it, then a young girl has to be killed to PROVE to you morons that he was EXACTLY CORRECT AND ON THE MONEY with his assessment.

Forget all your finger-pointing; forget blaming Reagan, Bush or the Republicans; what are liberals going to do, going forward, to correct the dangerous error THEY have made with the combination of releasing thousands of illegal immigrant criminals AND the invention of sanctuary, law-free cities? This is a LIBERAL problem; THEY have sanctuary cities.

What are LIBERALS going to do besides blame?

@Redteam, #15:

The fact of the matter is that Obama’s efforts to shift limited funding and manpower from the general undocumented population to focus more narrowly on the undocumented criminal element is far more beneficial to the nation than the republican approach of treating all illegals equally as criminals, to be arrested, processed and deported in whatever order they come to the Department of Justice’s attention…

You said that as a joke, right?

I’m completely serious. There are over 11 million undocumented aliens in the country. Several republican state legislatures decided it would be a good idea to begin taking them into custody and turning them over for federal processing and deportation whenever they came to the attention of local authorities. Local authorities were to inquire whenever a suspicion about legal status arose.

How long would it take for that to totally gridlock the DOJ with an avalanche of deportation proceedings against people who posed little or no threat to anyone? What resources would you then have left to focus on those who actually do?

@Greg:

How long would it take for that to totally gridlock the DOJ with an avalanche of deportation proceedings against people who posed little or no threat to anyone?

That’s your excuse? That it would take to long to deport these invaders? After your side of the aisle thinks that there is an unlimited amount of money to spend on shrimp treadmills and studies of hookers in other countries?

And how do you know the illegals pose “little or no” threat to anyone? HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT?

What resources would you then have left to focus on those who actually do?

Really? I can find lots of money in the federal coffers just by looking at the reports on waste, fraud and abuse of federal funds.

Here, Gullible Greggie, take a look at this website. Let’s see if you still think that the problem is being able to afford deporting invaders of our nation:

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/index.php

Now, buck up and tell the families of those victims of illegal invaders couldn’t be helped because you, a radical progressive, thinks we as a nation couldn’t afford to deport their murderers.

You are a disgusting, vile little man.

@retire05, #21:

That’s your excuse? That it would take to long to deport these invaders?

What don’t you understand about the effectiveness of focusing attention on the part of a group most likely to cause trouble rather than on the entire group? When the group in question consists of over 11 million people, doing anything else is idiotic.

11 million people are not going to be deported. It’s simply not going to happen. It doesn’t matter who’s in the White House or who has control of Congress. Republicans recently had their man in the White House and simultaneously had control of Congress for 6 years. They talked tough, but did nothing. There was too much money to be made by exploiting the cheap labor. Consider their actions rather than their words: Any efforts to hold employers accountable for hiring undocumented aliens were fought tooth and nail. Now they have new concerns. They’ll worry about alienating Hispanic voters. Donald Trump has witlessly turned the whole thing into an ethnic and racial issue, insulting an entire class of voters. Add to that concern the enormous costs that would be involved with any serious effort to remove over 11 million people. It’s not happening. Ever.

That being the case, it’s in the nation’s best interests to be selective about who we do deport. We should aggressively deport the criminal element. That should be our first priority. We should lay off the people who aspire to be useful to society because if we don’t, we become far less effective at doing that first thing. Obama has figured out the obvious.

You are a disgusting, vile little man.

I’m not your problem. You’re your own problem. You should forget about me and work on that. I’m just some person with different opinions.

@Greg:

What don’t you understand about the effectiveness of focusing attention on the part of a group most likely to cause trouble rather than on the entire group? When the group in question consists of over 11 million people, doing anything else is idiotic.

No, wrong, misguided, incorrect. First, they ALL broke the law, they ALL harm the economy and they ALL are a problem. Further, your plan is to wait until someone that has already broken the law by invading our country commits a more serious crime, then deciding if it is serious enough to keep them in jail. Tell me, do CITIZENS get let out of jail to go free when they have been convicted of serious crimes? ANY illegal immigrant rounded up needs to GO back home. Then, a second apprehension in this country should be a felony. Concerned this would load up our penal system? Secure the border.

We don’t have the money, you say? How about we stop giving illegal immigrants that pay NO income taxes refunds? Send THAT money to the border; there’s $4 billion a year. Have someone in Amtrak do their job and oversee employee wages; they stole $200 million falsifying time reporting. Over $300 billion has been identified as wasted on unused real estate and supporting obsolete and cancelled programs. Because no one in the federal government can be fired, apparently, no one feels obligated to do their jobs, so billions of dollars are wasted or stolen and all the government can do is ask for more money.

Not a viable excuse.

Don’t think they can be deported? Try this: stop the policy of subsidizing illegal immigration with food stamps, housing, free medical care and, as shown, income tax refunds. Demand proof of legal residency to receive any benefit or subsidy. Being an illegal immigrant would no longer be the cash cow it was and they would HAVE to return home. Free. No charge.

I’ll tell you what, Greg. Turn the government over to the adults and when we need an excuse, we’ll call a liberal. Obviously, that is all you liberals can produce.

Undocumented Immigrants’ State and Local Tax Contributions

The page points out that undocumented aliens paid over $11 billion in state and local taxes in 2012. Under Obama’s executive actions on immigration, it’s calculated that they would pay even more.

I’ll tell you what, Greg. Turn the government over to the adults and when we need an excuse, we’ll call a liberal.

Republicans have had majority control of both the House and the Senate for over 6 months. As noted, they previously had control of the House, Senate, and the White House for 6 years. My conclusion is that if they were really going to do something, they already would have.

@Greg:
Spoken like someone too dishonest to admit that it is the policies of liberals that have resulted in this woman’s death. And now you want to demonize anyone who criticizes the policy. Typical.

@Greg:

“republicans are doing their best to block Obama’s immigration directives that would curtail the deportation of useful and well-meaning people”

Nice straw man. Republicans want to close the border first, before we address the status of those already here. Brain dead liberals (but I repeat myself), misstate the conservatives’ position, because that’s all they’ve got. Well that and trying to confuse the difference between legal and illegal aliens.

@retire05: Good point.

@Greg: @Greg:

Republicans have had majority control of both the House and the Senate for over 6 months.

OH!! SIX whole MONTHS to undo the mess of immigration liberals have been making since the 80’s (when they lied to Reagan about promising to secure the border). Obama had Congress AND the White House for 2 years, the White House and Senate for 4. What did Obama do but invoke illegal amnesty, refuse to enforce laws and create the very circumstances that got this girl KILLED?

As noted, they previously had control of the House, Senate, and the White House for 6 years.

I guess you were in a news blackout then, but the Bush administration and Congress almost passed comprehensive reform. You know what killed it? Some liberals insisting that the work visa requirements expire in 5 years. You know who one of those liberals, knowing full well that this provision would kill the bill, was? Yep, Barack Obama. He and Chuckie Schumer made sure immigration reform failed.

Liberals like immigration reform as a political issue more than they want to ever solve it. Criminals like Obama will invoke executive privilege to give them paid benefits and amnesty to creep closer to granting them voting rights, but the left wants to never resolve it; they make too much political profit off the contention.

Now, go wash Kate Steinle’s blood off your hands. If you can.

@Bill:

We don’t have the money, you say? How about we stop giving illegal immigrants that pay NO income taxes refunds? Send THAT money to the border; there’s $4 billion a year.

How about this:

HHS money spent for the care and feeding of unaccompanied alien children for just two years:

2014 – $803,877,960.00

2015 – $335,339,195.00 to date

Why are we taking care of these children and not sending them back to their families in their homelands?

And how far would $1,139,217,155.00 go toward deportation expenses?

@retire05, #28:

According to my calculations, the $11 billion undocumented aliens paid in state and local taxes in 2012 is a much larger number than the $803 million you state unaccompanied alien children cost taxpayers in 2014. Presumably they didn’t all find tax loopholes that got them off the hook for the years following.

If they paid $11 billion it taxes in 2012, it’s safe to assume that the value of their work to the U.S. economy was a much greater number than that. Their labor is probably keeping the cost of your groceries down. They’re probably doing the cleaning and laundry in any hotel or motel you stay at.

Do you know what it costs taxpayers to deport one undocumented alien? $8,318, as of 2013. What would that work out to for 11 million deportations?

@Greg:

According to my calculations, the $11 billion undocumented aliens paid in state and local taxes in 2012 is a much larger number than the $803 million you state unaccompanied alien children cost taxpayers in 2014.

Do you know what it costs taxpayers to deport one undocumented alien? $8,318, as of 2013.

Oh, that $803 million doesn’t count the expense to school districts to educate these kids. So let’s take just one school district, the Houston Independent School district. HISD estimated in 2012 that it cost $9,064.00 to educate each student. Considering the fact that the Obama administration dumped 5,000+ of those unaccompanied alien children on the HISD last year, AND NOT FUND THOSE EDUCATIONAL COSTS, it cost the taxpayers of Houston $45,320,000.00 for just one year’s educational costs. HISD would save $700 per illegal kid if they deported them themselves.

That’s just one Texas school district, Gullible Greggie. JUST ONE.

You are truly nothing more than a Democrat sycophant and useful idiot. Shame on you. SHAME ON YOU.

Their labor is probably keeping the cost of your groceries down. They’re probably doing the cleaning and laundry in any hotel or motel you stay at.

When you say “probably” it is clear you are trying to pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining because you don’t know if that is true. But hey, you continue to believe that illegals do the work Americans won’t do, then explain to me why, when a packing house was raided a few years ago, and the employers were found to be most illegals and the company fired them, there were lines of Americans applying for those jobs.

You have drank so much of the liberal/progressive Kool-Aid that you are no longer rational.

You remain an idiot.

@Greg: But they take out over $185 billion in taxpayer funded subsidies. And, of course, the commit crimes. And, of course, they are here illegally. And, of course, there are AMERICANS that don’t have jobs.

But all you care about is nurturing their votes.

@Greg:

Does the term “illegal immigration” inherently define the commission of a crime? There is a legal mode of immigrating into the US. Not following that law is, clearly, a criminal act. Ergo, the act of a city declaring itself a “sanctuary” for people breaking the law by definition makes such a city a criminal accomplice for each and every violation of immigration law, compounded by any additional laws the illegal violates while being in the country illegally within the borders of the “sanctuary city”.

Unfortunately, the left has – as we have seen with the recent obamacare and homogamy rulings – destroyed the concept of the rule of law, replacing it with “whatever leftists FEEL laws should say”.

@Greg:

So breaking the laws of our country don’t matter, so long as the lawbreaker pays taxes?

The hypocrisy of the left wailing about individuals who can’t afford insurance while ignoring the death and misery of the victims of illegal aliens is mindboggling.

@Pete:

Does the term “illegal immigration” inherently define the commission of a crime?

Hiring undocumented workers is also a crime. They only came here because people were willing to hire them. It’s the only way they were able to establish themselves and remain. Trump is no one to talk. Undocumented laborers are evidently working on the site of the new Trump hotel project presently underway in Washington, DC. When asked, some of them acknowledged it. In Trump’s case this would hardly be anything new. He’s been taken to court for it before. There’s some hypocrisy, if hypocrisy is what you want.

If someone wants to put forward a rational plan for undoing decades of inattention to the problem of illegal immigration and illegal hiring, fine. I’d love to hear the details. Otherwise, I’m supporting Obama’s directives. They represent a practical, fair approach to certain aspects of the situation as it currently exists. Congress is welcomed to try to come up with something better, but I’m not holding my breath.

Greg: Remember the Arizona bill, SB 1070 which was enacted to allow local law enforcement to ask detainees about their immigration status. The President went into hyper drive to prevent the people of Arizona to help curtail the exploding crime wave caused by the influx of illegals. Remember the death of kind rancher who often gave water to the illegals and in return was shot to death that prompted the creation of this bill However, as Pete correctly states:”….the illegal within a sanctuary city ..”created by Brown and his cronies ,with no push back by the President, are indeed accomplices to a horrific crime.

@Greg:

Hiring undocumented workers is also a crime.

Really. You continue to show how clueless you are.

You once claimed that an illegal could not just go to a flea market and purchase very legitimate looking Social Security cards. Remember that? And remember when I provided you with an article from The Houston Chronicle that proved you wrong? Sure you do.

But the rules have changed since Obama took over. Now, employers have to deal with “disparate impact”, a made up equal rights bunch of bull. Employers are not required to verify the legality of documentation (like a Social Security card) if it looks to be legitimate:

http://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/acceptable-documents/examining-documents

It says:

If your employee

You should

Tips

Provides documentation that reasonably appears to be genuine, relates to the employee, and is on the List of Acceptable Documents Accept the documentation. HELP

Trump is no one to talk. Undocumented laborers are evidently working on the site of the new Trump hotel project presently underway in Washington, DC. When asked, some of them acknowledged it.

It is clear that you have never owned a business or ever been responsible for hiring. Trump owns a business that builds. He hires contractors to do that building. Those contractors hire subcontractors (workers) to work on that build. Those contractors are responsible for the people who are actually doing the building; the carpenters, plumbers, electricians, framers, sheet rockers, and trimmers. The contractor, not Trump, is responsible for the documentation of the workers.

It can take the Social Security division as long as six months to inform a business that the worker’s SS card does not match the information on record. By then, the worker is generally long gone, having moved on to another construction site where the process repeats itself. The E-Verify system has a 40% accuracy rate. 40% That means it misses illegals 60% of the time.

Stealing a SS number is also illegal. Why don’t you give us the number of SS fraud prosecutions against illegals that the Obama administration has completed in the last five years since you seem to be so on top of the administration? I will be waiting for your numbers.

Time, and time again, you exhibit how totally clueless you are. I would think by now you would be tired of embarrassing yourself. You are clearly without shame. You will support the deaths of Americans by pandering for the horrible record of the Obama administration in deporting criminal illegal aliens. You refuse to put a price on the life of an American and want to blame Republicans while it is Democrats who continually fight to prevent anyone from demanding these illegals be deported. Seems any reasonable person understands that the Democrats are doing that for their own selfish interests.

You are the most pathetically uninformed person on this website. And you’re an idiot.

If Obama’s immigration reform had been enacted, all that would have changed here is that it would have been a registered Democrat instead of an illegal immigrant that killed Kate Steinle.

@Greg: Greg, Obola’s policies as well as San Francisco’s failures have this girls blood on their hands “period”!! I’m sure Donald will be hurt by your comments!! Wake up and realize that ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL!! Of course you can’t recognize a liar so I doubt you have the brain cells to realize the problem!! Tell your crap to the parents of this murdered young girl!!

@Greg:

I have no problem with anyone who hires an illegal alien having all their property and savings taken from them AND being thrown in jail for 10 years without parole, but only so long as the illegal alien who came over is put into a database of lawbreakers, deported, and NEVER allowed to return to our country, under pain of execution.

Furthermore, any politician who ever propagandizes for illegal aliens to be allowed to vote, should be arrested, tried for treason, and if proven to have done so, summarily executed.

122 people have been murdered by illegal aliens released by the Obama administration (Washington Times, 15 June 2015) – and that was BEFORE this young woman was murdered by an illegal alien that had been deported 5 times previously.

Greg, your pathetic attempt at deflection from the lawbreaking of illegal aliens by pointing to the scum who knowingly hire illegals – as if those of us demanding the border be secured and all illegal deported don’t know there are scum who knowingly hire the illegals – might have validity if it wasn’t your leftists who keep fighting the use of the e-Verify system in order to stop illegals from getting jobs here.

Legal immigrants are welcome in this country. Illegal aliens are purposefully breaking the law once to get here, and seem to have a disproportionate involvement relative to population in further criminal acts. But as you have already indicated, you leftists don’t care about the victims of illegal alien criminals, so long as illegals pay taxes and vote for leftist candidates.

Certainly fits the old adage, “There is no honor among thieves…”

@Bill: Good one! And how very true.

@retire05, #36:

You’re always ready with excuses and rationalizations to shift blame for any problem under discussion from business and employers as a class to employees as a class. This is just another example. It’s a pattern I’ve observed in connection with a variety of Us vs. Them constructs that seem to characterize your entire world view. Right vs Left, black vs white, straights vs gays, useful vs. moochers, etc. Opinions are either right or wrong, they’re never simply different.

False documentation is a problem. It wouldn’t be a problem if businesses and employers all utilized E-Verify, which has been calculated to be 94 percent accurate and steadily improving. The reason many don’t is because efforts to make it mandatory have been vigorously resisted by the private sector business community. The fact that it’s not mandatory doesn’t mean that any employer who wants to use it can’t do so. The truth is that a lot of employers simply don’t want to.

Knowingly hiring aliens who aren’t legally qualified to work is, in fact, illegal. Some employers prefer not knowing who they’re hiring. Not knowing is the legal loophole that allows them to utilize a readily available supply of cheap—albeit unlawful—labor, increasing profits at the expense of their communities, taxpayers, and legally qualified workers who must now compete against a cheaper undocumented workforce.

Here’s your typical line of right-wing bullshit about E-Verify, from a recent, typically bullshit WND article: UPSET! ATTACKS ON TRUMP ARE BACKFIRING.

“While the Beltway candidates for president drone on about E-Verify and other failed programs, the critical minds know that the bleeding hearts will continue to promote the unfettered flood of illegal influx into the U.S. whether or not they are coming to work. Real Americans know there will be more deals, more “compromise,” and they aren’t settling for these plans for a moment.”

You can often recognize a line of total b.s. by such bombastic pronouncements, which in fact are saying absolutely nothing. The truth is that the simple solution E-Verify offers hasn’t gone a long way toward fixing the problem because special interests have lobbied fiercely to keep it from being universally applied. They don’t want solutions that would remove the opportunity to exploit a huge supply of cheap labor. They want to keep that source of enhanced profit margins, while shifting blame for all of the adverse social consequences onto somebody else. Donald Trump could be their poster boy. He’s hypocritically decrying illegal immigration, while simultaneously utilizing undocumented workers on a multi-million dollar project in the nation’s capital.

@Greg: Greggie Greggie Greggie, your moronic bias has once more risen from the sewer and bubbled up for all to smell!! Documentation, really?? This guy was well documented as an ILLEGAL!! Blood remains on the hands of those who let this guy go!! Tell your story to the parents!! Clearly you could not have children given your last statement!!

@Greg:

You’re always ready with excuses and rationalizations to shift blame for any problem under discussion from business and employers as a class to employees as a class. This is just another example.

Sorry, Gullible Greggie, but your shell game doesn’t work with me. I fully support all businesses that hire to be required to use E-Verify.

You only want to change the topic in order to tack away from your “it’s too expensive to deport illegals” meme while you refuse to put a price on the life of Americans.

Not once have you been able to debate the facts that I have given you, hence, your shell game of changing topics. I would be interested in knowing how much you think the life of one of your family members is worth when it comes to the deportation costs that could possibly save their life. Not that you will answer.

I suggest you read Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution that guarantees each state protection against invasion. Illegal aliens are nothing more than invaders.

@Greg:

The page points out that undocumented aliens

What is an ‘undocumented alien’? Is that different than documented alien? Are undocumented aliens illegal or legal? Is calling them undocumented a ‘feel good’ thing?

@Greg: 29

According to my calculations, the $11 billion undocumented aliens paid in state and local taxes in 2012

So, undocumented aliens file taxes? Doesn’t that make them documented? Do you really think most of them file tax returns?

@retire05:

Stealing a SS number is also illegal. Why don’t you give us the number of SS fraud prosecutions against illegals that the Obama administration

That’s correct, the Obama admin hasn’t even been able to catch our Commander in Chief for using a stolen SS number.

@Greg: 41

if businesses and employers all utilized E-Verify,

That’s correct, E-Verify has revealed that Obama’s number is fraudulent.

@Greg:

You can often recognize a line of total b.s.

That’s correct, all you have to know is that it’s a Dimocrat liberal socialist saying it.

@retire05:

Stealing a SS number is also illegal. Why don’t you give us the number of SS fraud prosecutions against illegals that the Obama administration has completed in the last five years since you seem to be so on top of the administration? I will be waiting for your numbers.

They would have to start with obie’s CT SS#

@Greg: Here you go, Greg; a little fuel for the fire of your accusations of “exploitation”. ONCE AGAIN, Obama, in his headlong rush to utilize a tragedy before it (and the bodies) grows cold, makes the facts what he wished they were, for ideological purposes. As soon as he can find a podium, microphone and teleprompter, he goes off on the Republicans and lack of more gun control as the cause for the South Caroline church murders (not yet finding a use for blaming the Confederate battle flag). Once again, he should have waited for facts and looked to his own organizations.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-director-screening-error-allowed-dylann-roof-to-purchase-gun/

Seems that, due to shoddy record keeping and incomplete files, Roof was allowed to buy a gun when the laws already in place should have prevented him from buying one. You leftists demand regulations, then the lazy, incompetent, inefficient, and un-caring federal workers fail to utilize the laws in place. Governmental failure caused the tragic deaths of the 9 congregation members, just as this administration’s immigration policies caused the tragic death of this lovely girl.

And Obama cannot even say her name.