What Islam brings to the world today

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It’s called the “Religion of Peace.” It’s described as “tolerant.”

It’s bullshit.

Let’s review what Islam brings to the world lately, beyond the Charlie Hebdo murders.

Radical Islam a growing threat to sub-Saharan Christians – report

Radical Islamists were the main persecutors of Christians around the world last year, not only in the Middle East but increasingly in sub-Saharan Africa, according to an annual survey monitoring religious freedom.

Open Doors, an international group supporting persecuted Christians worldwide, said on Wednesday Islamic militants posed the greatest threat to the faith in 18 of the 20 countries that its annual World Watch List says are toughest for Christians.

Rankings are based on the group’s analysis of violence against Christians and official or informal restrictions on rights to practise their faith, convert from other religions and enjoy the same civil liberties as other citizens.

Topping the list of Christians confirmed to have been killed for faith-related reasons were Nigeria at 2,484 and Central African Republic at 1,088, with Syria and Iraq – where Islamic State militants have driven hundreds of thousands of Christians from areas they control – at 271 and 60 respectively.

That’s just the tip of the iceberg. A list of Islamic terror attacks can be found here.

Boko Haram runs rampant in North Africa, persecuting and killing Christians. All in the name of Allah.

It’s just a few radical groups, say the dhimmis on the left. Just a few, such as

– Abu Sayyaf in the Phillippines
– Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj in Nepal
– Al Badr in Kashmir
– Al Nusra in Syria and Lebanon
– Al Qaeda
– Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
– Al Qaeda in the Magreb
– Takfir wal-Hijra in Egypt
– Ansar al-Sharia in Tunisia
– Ansar al-Sharia in Libya
– Armed Islamic Group of Algeria
– Egyptian Islamic Jihad
– Great Eastern Islamic Raiders’ Front in Turkey
– Haqqani network in Afghanistan
– Indian Mujahideen
– Jamaat Mujahideen (India)
– Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
– Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
– Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh
– Palestine Liberation Front
– People’s Mujahedin of Iran
– People’s Liberation Army of Manipur (India)
– Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan
– Taliban
– Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi (Pakistan)

The list is not all-inclusive.

Ever ask about the Quran? Ever ask about the quotes from the Quran?

Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing…
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.

Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”

Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”

Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.”

There are loads more.

I did ask a Muslim friend of mine what this could possibly mean other than what it says. He’s not really a firm believer. Realistically, he’s a liberal capitalist. Anyway, he said “You don’t understand.” OK, I said, help me out. “It takes years of study” he replied. The bottom line is that it means whatever a mullah wants it to mean at any given time.

So what does happen as Islam grows within a democratic country? All sorts of fun things. In what has become an annual celebration, marauding “youths” torch thousands of cars in France.

Sweden threw open its doors it Muslim immigration:

Sweden’s population grew from 9 million to 9.5 million in the years 2004-2012, mainly due to immigration from “countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia”. 16 percent of all newborns have mothers born in non-Western countries. Employment rate among immigrants: 54 percent.

And the payoff?

Sweden now has the second highest number of rapes in the world, after South Africa, which at 53.2 per 100,000 is six times higher than the United States. Statistics now suggest that 1 out of every 4 Swedish women will be raped.

Selwyn Duke adds:

Seventy-seven percent of these rapes are committed by “foreigners”; the vast majority of these are Muslim, while most of their victims are native Swedes. And these figures, say critics, are likely low-ball estimates by authorities that would prefer to whitewash the problem altogether.

I can’t remember how many times I’ve been to Norway. At one time rape was pretty much unknown there. Now?

Norway’s Minister of Justice from 2001 to 2005, Odd Einar Dørum, mentioned the problem in 2001 but has later gone quiet about the issue. The reported number of rapes in Oslo is now six – 6! – times as high per capita as in New York City, yet the media keeps warning against Islamophobia.

According to Aftenposten, the clinic (voldtektsmottak) at the emergency hospital known as Legevakt has never had so many rape victims to treat. Its ability to care for them all is being severely tested. The number of reported rapes has skyrocketed this year.

And it’s the potential victims who must alter their behavior:

Two out of three charged with rape in Norway’s capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study. The number of rape cases is also rising steadily. Unni Wikan, a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, in 2001 said that “Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes” because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: “Norwegian women must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”

Again- note that Islam demands that YOU change to accommodate it. It’s NEVER the other way around.

A Norwegian woman in Dubai learned this the hard way. After reporting to the police that she had been raped she found herself facing a 16 month prison sentence.

The 24-year-old was convicted and sentenced on charges of having unlawful sex, making a false statement and illegal consumption of alcohol.

Her story is dominating the headlines in Norway, and has raised serious questions over the way women who allege sexual assault are treated in the United Arab Emirates.

Dalelv, who had been working at an interior design firm in Qatar since September 2011, told CNN on Saturday how a work trip to Dubai in March with three colleagues turned into a nightmare.

She could take comfort in knowing she’s far from alone:

In December 2012, a British woman reported being raped by three men in Dubai. She was found guilty of drinking alcohol without a license and fined.

In January 2010, a British woman told authorities she was raped by an employee at a Dubai hotel. She was charged with public intoxication and having sex outside of marriage.

An Australian woman reported in 2008 that she was drugged and gang-raped. She was convicted of having sex outside marriage and drinking alcohol, and she was sentenced to 11 months in prison.

We’ve previously noted the impact of Islam on Western society:

— Weighted Relative International Rape Scale, the countries with the highest number of rapes are either Islamic countries OR those with a high Muslim population.
— Almost 70% of all rapes committed in Denmark are committed by Muslims.
— 100% of assault rapes between strangers were committed by immigrant, non-Western Muslim males. And nine out of 10 of their victims were native Norwegian women.
— There’s a Rape Wave in Sweden, due to the increased Muslim population.
— 1 in 4 Swedish women will be raped by a Muslim, as sexual assaults increase 500%.
— Pakistani Muslim men in England, who “groomed” young white British girls for rape gangs, called the victims “white trash”.
— According to the Brussels Journal, Muslims are 6 times more likely to commit rape.

France is seeing the growth of “mini-Islamic states” within its borders, and France allows them to go unimpeded:

A backdrop to the massacre in Paris on Wednesday by self-professed al Qaeda terrorists is that city officials have increasingly ceded control of heavily Muslim neighborhoods to Islamists, block by block.

There is a definite goal:

France has Europe’s largest population of Muslims, some of whom talk openly of ruling the country one day and casting aside Western legal systems for harsh, Islam-based Shariah law.

These areas a fertile areas for growing terrorists:

While not a complete safe-haven for al Qaeda-type operatives, Paris and other French cities have become more fertile places for Muslim extremists in the past decade. City leaders have allowed virtual Islamic mini-states to thrive as Muslims gain power to govern in their own way.

“There are no-go areas not just in Paris, but all over France, where they are effectively in control,” said Robert Spencer, who directs JihadWatch.org, a nonprofit that monitors Muslim extremists.

What’s happening there is also happening here, courtesy of all too willing liberals:

“What they are trying to do is shut down any sort of criticism of Islam, any sort of speech, cartoons, discussion, anything,” he said. “Essentially, the French government and the other European governments have lost control over the situation. It’s a snowball that is growing bigger and bigger, in particular over the past 10 years.”

Liberals, so eager to prove their openness, entertain nonsense that is just amazingly illogical:

MSNBC reporter Ayman Mohyeldin disaggregated terrorism from Islamic stereotypes on Morning Joe Thursday morning, arguing that radicalized violence was a societal problem that was not endemic to or correlated with Islam.

The problem of Islam is not a problem of religion, he claims. Now, remember what I said about the Quran?

“So two Muslim countries, predominantly Muslim populations, have interpreted their religion to mean two different things on capabilities of women and what women can do.”

Exactly. Islam is a religion, it is a government, it is a philosophy, it is a set of laws, it is government. They are inseparable. And they all mean whatever someone wants them to mean at any given moment. In other words, in being anything to anyone, Islam is nothing. There is no “Islam.” There are a million “Islams.” And they all demand that you change to accommodate them.

But dare you criticize Islam, instant outrage erupts. It is that constant outrage that is used as a shield to mask all that transpires under its aegis. That is why I refer to Islam as the Religion of Perpetual Umbrage.

The kuffar need to avoid criticism of the prophet- or else. Anjem Choudary, defending the Hebdo attacks, says we’ve been warned:

Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people’s desires.

Although Muslims may not agree about the idea of freedom of expression, even non-Muslims who espouse it say it comes with responsibilities. In an increasingly unstable and insecure world, the potential consequences of insulting the Messenger Muhammad are known to Muslims and non-Muslims alike.
Muslims consider the honor of the Prophet Muhammad to be dearer to them than that of their parents or even themselves. To defend it is considered to be an obligation upon them. The strict punishment if found guilty of this crime under sharia (Islamic law) is capital punishment implementable by an Islamic State. This is because the Messenger Muhammad said, “Whoever insults a Prophet kill him.”

However, because the honor of the Prophet is something which all Muslims want to defend, many will take the law into their own hands, as we often see.

Which really means Islam and democracy are incompatible.

This picture (courtesy of Weasel Zippers) tells you everything you need to know:

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The Islam portion of the Hebdo cartoon is pixlated out, but insulting Jews is de rigueur, and the same applies to Christians.

The media is in full Muslim protection mode. The NY Times has taken to outright lying. The editors changed the copy of a first account from this:

Sigolène Vinson, a freelancer who had decided to come in that morning to take part in the meeting, thought she would be killed when one of the men approached her.

Instead, she told French news media, the man said, “I’m not going to kill you because you’re a woman, we don’t kill women, but you must convert to Islam, read the Quran and cover yourself,” she recalled.

to this:

Ms. Vinson said in an interview that she dropped to the floor and crawled down the hall to hide behind a partition, but one of the gunmen spotted her and grabbed her by the arm, pointing his gun at her head. Instead of pulling the trigger, though, he told her she would not be killed because she was a woman.

“Don’t be afraid, calm down, I won’t kill you,” the gunman told her in a steady voice, with a calm look in his eyes, she recalled. “You are a woman. But think about what you’re doing. It’s not right.”

Jim Treacher:

So, imagine yourself as an NYT editor for a moment, if you can withstand the nausea. Why would you specifically take out the part about the Islamic terrorist proselytizing for Islam in the middle of the terrorist attack? Why delete this woman’s account of being threatened at gunpoint and being told to convert to Islam?

That’s easy. Because you’re one of America’s moral, ethical, and intellectual betters, and you don’t want it to be true. Your reporter hastily left that inconvenient truth in her story by accident, so you airbrushed it out, without any acknowledgment, to preserve the narrative. You turned it into, “Hey, maybe these guys aren’t so bad after all. They didn’t kill the women, right? Let’s not be too hasty.”

Because that’s your job.

The New York Times is garbage.

The left is in complete denial of the involvement of Islam in the murders and some blame the victims.

Yes it is garbage. I happened to come into possession of an image at a meeting the NY Times editors following a discussion of the Hebdo coverage.

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Obama promises us “re-education” about Islam and to redouble his efforts to explain why when Islam kills it’s really in the name of peace.

He can start by explaining some of the quotes from the Quran I posted above.

Josh Earnest:

“There are some individuals that are using a peaceful religion and grossly distorting it, and trying to use its tenets to inspire people around the globe to carry out acts of violence.”

Whose Islam, Josh? Whose version? Which day? What mullah? Where can we look it up?

Exit question- how does he know that the version of Islam they’re shoving down our throats is the real one? What makes them so God damn sure the Charlie Hebdo/9-11 version isn’t the real one? al-Silm (i.e. “Islam”) means “surrender.” The Arabic word for peace is “salaam.” Maybe Obama can explain why it’s not called “Salaam.”

As I said, Islam is whatever any mullah wants it to be at any time and anything in the Quran can be used to justify any action. You can’t have a football game in which every ref has his own set of rules. It doesn’t work.

It is incompatible with democracy and frankly, the civilized world.

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If you want to learn about Islam read Mark Durie’s book “The Third Choice”.

Excellent book.

In 2013 Raymond Ibrahim reminded readers about Islam’s ”Rule of Numbers.”

The more Muslims grow in numbers, the more Islamic phenomena intrinsic to the Muslim world—in this case, brazen violence against “infidels”—appear.

In the U.S., where Muslims are less than 1% of the population, London-style attacks are uncommon. Islamic assertiveness is limited to political activism dedicated to portraying Islam as a “religion of peace,” and sporadic, but clandestine, acts of terror.

In Europe, where Muslims make for much larger minorities, open violence is common. But because they are still a vulnerable minority, Islamic violence is always placed in the context of “grievances,” a word that pacifies Westerners.

With an approximate 10% Muslim population, London’s butcherers acted brazenly, yes, but they still invoked grievances. Standing with bloodied hands, the murderer declared: “We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone…. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying by British soldiers every day.”

Days later in Stockholm, which also has a large Muslim minority, masked rioters destroyed 100 cars and property. The grievance for this particular outbreak was that police earlier shot a(nother) machete-wielding “immigrant” in self-defense.

Grievances disappear when Muslims become at least 35-40% of a nation and feel capable of waging an all-out jihad, as in Nigeria.

Once Muslims become the majority, the violence ironically wanes, but that’s because there are fewer infidels to persecute. And what infidels remain lead paranoid, low-key existences—as dhimmis—always careful to “know their place.”

With an 85% Muslim majority, Egypt is increasingly representative of this paradigm. Christian Copts are under attack, but not in an all-out jihad. Rather, under the Muslim Brotherhood their oppression is becoming institutionalized, including through new “blasphemy” laws which have seen many Christians attacked and imprisoned. (Remember, this was 2013, when the MB was in power.)

Attacks on infidels finally end when Muslims become 100% of the population, as in Saudi Arabia—where all its citizens are Muslim, and churches and other non-Islamic expressions are totally banned.

Interestingly, this Rule of Numbers was based on a years’ earlier historically-based essay.
But the numbers proved to be off by a lot in that old paradigm.
What was going on historically ”speeded up” after Islamists realized they were being mostly met with willing dhimmis, apologists, politically correct sympathizers and an unarmed populace.

@Jeff: Doesn’t the cover art of that book remind us of those enslaved girls kidnapped by Boko Haram?
It shows the roots of all of these actions are deeply imbedded in Islam itself.

I read an article by Michael Deacon over at the Telegraph.

He brought up an excellent Question…”What if it isn’t about cartoons?”

What if we are all “playing into their hands”…thinking this latest attack was about cartoons?

That this is just a pretext for Muslims to commit murder…the West and Europe then “turn on Muslims” and create more (home grown) terrorists by these ‘actions’ and further “the War” Muslims have been ‘waiting for’?

Scary. Dangerous Times we live in.

Once upon a time there was a great Briton named Winston Churchill. He described Islam back in 1920.
You could look up what he said.
Or you could get your own Koran.
What it says is incredible. Islam is a total package, spread at the point of the sword (originally) but now at the muzzle of an AK-47. Islam means submission to the will of Allah, as expressed by the Mullahs.
In the Koran it states that martyrs (those who die killing infidels) are endowed with the manhood of 100 men. In order to care for this remarkable vigor, they are given 72 houris and 28 young boys. A houri is not exactly a virgin; she does not reproduce and remains a virgin after intercourse.
Mohammad was a caravan raider; he made his living holding up caravans and killing the participants. Islam has been spread ever since by warfare. Mohammed limited his followers to five wives; he had 11 himself, by special dispensation from Allah.
In Islam there are no limits. Anything is permitted; the captured males are killed and the captured females become slaves. It’s really pretty ugly. I am not making this up. There used to be a website called Islam Exposed, (www.hinduunity.org) published by the Hindus in India. The website has been taken down, but the story of the invasion of India by Islam was pretty ugly.

Peaceful Muslims exist. Are they really Muslim? OR are they “Weekend Muslims?”

How can one really be a Muslim, when one does not follow all beliefs of the faith?

How can one really be a Muslim, when one does not follow the Koran and Muhammed’s tenets to the letter?

Perhaps what drives Islamic extremists to attacks is that so many will not give them credit for their heinous deeds. Each subsequent attacks gets more and more obviously in the name of Islam (“the prophet Muhammad has been avenged”) but still liberal apologists will not admit their failure to address the issue and that apologizing for terrorism is not reducing the incidents of terrorism very much.

If I were France I would be deporting muslims at a rate that would make a former german chancellor proud…………

A couple of things come to my mind when thinking about how this has all increased in tempo world-wide in the last few years. Could it be that our country, previously the leader in doing the right thing even if it was the hard thing, bowed out when a Muslim took the presidency? (In the interest of full disclosure, I tried to give Obama the benefit of the doubt as to his religious beliefs for far too long, I now firmly believe he is an Islamist.) We walked away from Iraq, allowing ISIS to develop and grow. We released terrorists from GITMO, sent them back into the hornet’s nest (I know, Bush did it too). And we killed some Al Qaeda leaders with drones, instead of trying to grab them alive and wringing them out like a wet rag for the intelligence they surely possessed. Am I the only one that thinks we might have headed off quite a few attacks, like the recent one in France, had we captured instead of killed some of the strong influential terrorist that motivated people like Hassan, the cell in France, the failed shoe bomber, the failed Times Square bomber and others? Yeah drone strikes are cheap and easy, which seems to be the way this president likes things when it comes to defending our country and those of our allies, but wouldn’t it be better if we weren’t a complete failure at intelligence gathering? We had another president that castrated our HUMIT, the result of his lack of meaningful responses brought us to September 11th, 2001. We’re on the path to that kind of attack again, but I’m afraid on a larger scale, and yet the liberals still believe it can’t happen to us…

This will likely be appreciated. Choosing to be offended

@mathman:

Once upon a time there was a great Briton named Winston Churchill. He described Islam back in 1920.
You could look up what he said.

Speaking of Churchill: Sir Winston Churchill ‘s family feared he might convert to Islam

what may come as a surprise is that he was a strong admirer of Islam and the culture of the Orient — such was his regard for the Muslim faith that relatives feared he might convert.

The revelation comes with the discovery of a letter to Churchill from his future sister-in-law, Lady Gwendoline Bertie, written in August 1907, in which she urges him to rein in his enthusiasm.

In the letter, discovered by Warren Dockter, a history research fellow at Cambridge University, she pleads: “Please don’t become converted to Islam; I have noticed in your disposition a tendency to orientalise [fascination with the Orient and Islam], Pasha-like tendencies, I really have.”

Lady Gwendoline, who married Churchill’s brother Jack, adds: “If you come into contact with Islam your conversion might be effected with greater ease than you might have supposed, call of the blood, don’t you know what I mean, do fight against it.”

In a letter to Lady Lytton in the same year Churchill wrote: “You will think me a pasha [rank of distinction in the Ottoman Empire]. I wish I were.”

Churchill’s fascination led him and his close friend Wilfrid S. Blunt, the poet and radical supporter of Muslim causes, to dressing in Arab clothes in private while in each other’s company. Dr Dockter said of the letter from Lady Gwendoline: “Churchill had fought in Sudan and on the North West frontier of India so had much experience on being in ‘Islamic areas’.

“But during this period Churchill was in the Liberal phase of his career, having switched to the Liberals in 1904.

“He often came to loggerheads on imperial policies with hard-line imperialists such as Frederick Lugard, the High Commissioner of Northern Nigeria. Churchill was opposed to Lugard’s punitive expeditions against Islamic tribes in northern Nigeria.”

The letter was discovered by Dr Dockter while researching his forthcoming book, Winston Churchill and the Islamic World: Orientalism, Empire and Diplomacy in the Middle East.

He points out that Lady Gwendoline’s concerns may not have been so wide of the mark. Not only did Churchill appear to regard Islam and Christianity as equals – a surprisingly progressive notion for the time – but he also admired the military prowess and history of expansion of the Ottoman Empire.

In October 1940, as Britain faced its darkest hour against Nazi Germany, Churchill approved plans to build a mosque in central London and set aside £100,000 for the project. He continued to back the building of what became the London Central Mosque in Regent’s Park – which he hoped would win support for Britain in the Muslim world at a crucial moment – even in the face of public criticism.

In December 1941, he told the House of Commons: “Many of our friends in Muslim countries all over the East have already expressed great appreciation of this gift.”

Churchill’s attitude may appear hypocritical, given his forthright defence of the British Empire – which at its height ruled over millions of Muslims across India, Egypt and the Middle East.

In his book The River War (1899) – his account of the frontier wars of India and Sudan – he was scathing of the fundamentalist, ultra conservative Mahdiyya form of Islam adopted by the Dervish population of North Africa.

He states: “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries … Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce … The influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.”

But Dr Dockter says a closer examination of Churchill’s attitude to the wider Muslim world reveals it to be “in stark contrast to the purely imperialistic and orientalist perspective of many of his contemporaries”.

In his book, he states: “His views of Islamic people and culture were an often paradoxical and complex combination of imperialist perceptions composed of typical orientalist ideals fused with the respect, understanding and magnanimity he had gained from his experiences in his early military career, creating a perspective that was uniquely Churchillian.”

The revelation that Churchill had a close affinity for Muslim culture comes at a time when tensions between the three great monotheistic faiths, Christianity, Judaism and Islam are greater than they have been for centuries.

Ironically, many of the fault lines between Islam and the West have their roots in the world Churchill helped shape after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the redrawing of the Middle East at the end of the First World War.

The settlements between the region’s colonial powers, brokered by Churchill, with T E Lawrence – “Lawrence of Arabia” – as an adviser, gave birth, in Dr Dockter’s words, to “the Middle East we know, warts and all”.

Dr Dockter, who assisted Boris Johnson on his book The Churchill Factor, said: “Not many people are aware that Churchill and T E Lawrence were friends or that they worked together to solve the riddles of the Middle Eastern settlements. Understanding these settlements is paramount to understanding the legacy of Britain in the Middle East.”

Of course, Churchill did not convert to Islam, and Dr Dockter concludes that his fascination was “largely predicated on Victorian notions, which heavily romanticised the nomadic lifestyle and honour culture of the Bedouin tribes”.

Such was his limited understanding of Islam that as colonial secretary during the early 1920s he had to ask what the difference was between Shia and Sunni Muslims, the two major groupings whose long-standing animosity is currently playing out in Syria and Iraq.

As Dr Dockter points out, at least he had the good sense to ask the question in the first place, regarding an issue which bedevils the West’s involvement in the region to this day.

In his book, The River War, Churchill also wrote:

” “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men,”

“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralizes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.”…

What is apparently not understood (to generate the sale of books, perhaps) is the “tongue in cheek” British humor being expressed by Lady Gwendoline with her “Pasha-like tendencies” and “call of the blood” comments made in the run up to World War I (and knowing Churchill’s aggressive nature) or the comment by Churchill himself that “you will think me a pasha.” Contrary to the author, the term “pasha” at that time in Great Britain was not a compliment, but a derogatory term.

To claim that Winston Churchill might have even considered converting to Islam, due to his respect for individual Mohammedans, is as absurd as claiming George Patton was considering becoming a Nazi due to the respect he held for the military skills of Erwin Rommel.

Violence is the fruit of all evil and they who support, threaten or commit violence are evil incarnate.

The true story of Muhammad must be published and freely distributed throughout the world for Muhammad was nothing more than your typical human male: a liar, bully, coward, backstabber, thief, rapist, torturer and murderer.

When India collided with Asia 55 million years ago that land now called the Middle East was covered by a mountain of ice that towered above the clouds, was blindingly white, could be seen for thousands of miles in all directions, and dug those holes in the ground now called the Mediterranean Sea. Ice Mountain finally melted about 200,000 years ago after which the land could be settled. By than billions of humans had lived and died in that Asia/India complex thus exposing those Jewish religious books as nothing but a pack of lies. The Jews have the duty to admit the truth about themselves and their religious stories but they apparently refuse to.

I lived in muslim countries for about a total of 12 months 1969 and 1976-77 I found them to be tolerant and welcoming.
Of course this was BEFORE the USA gave billions to the most radical islamists to fight the Russians in Afghanistan (where I spent over 6 months in 76-77) What effect do you think giving those billions to the most radical islamists and also the invasion/occupation of 2 muslim countries has had on radical islam? http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/09/sleeping-with-the-devil-how-u-s-and-saudi-backing-of-al-qaeda-led-to-911.html
What mistakes are we making now in dealing with Islam ?

@Wordsmith: Churchill did not convert to Islam, and Dr Dockter concludes that his fascination was “largely predicated on Victorian notions, which heavily romanticised the nomadic lifestyle and honour culture of the Bedouin tribes”.

Yes, that coupled with his observations:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries … Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce … The influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.”

I think this romanticized view of Islam is what Obama shares.
He was close to Edward Said who romanticized Islam in his works on it.
Edward Said used his romantic view of Islam to remove all valid criticism of Islam as if it is ”Islamophobia,” as if that ends the debate.
Political correctness took this idea and ran with it.
Obama also admits (in Dreams From My Father) to a strong sense of ”anti-colonialism.”
As such Obama MUST side with any people of color who had been colonized over their white colonizers.
Such distinctions of fighting back Muslims who had fought their way into Europe all the way to Vienna is lost on Obama who is a pathetic excuse for an historian.
He simply does not see Islamic colonization as a problem.
He only sees Europeans past colonizations as problematic.
In that, he agreed with Osama bin Laden who, in looking for an excuse to kill Europeans, pointed to ancient history: the retaking of Spain by the Spanish 700 years before.
Since we can never change history, Muslims, who claim they cannot instigate war, bit only fight in defense, will always be able to point to something in the misty past to justify their violence today.
If Obama were as observant of reality as Churchill had been he would temper his romantic view of Islam with what he sees all around him.
I’m not holding my breath on that.

Ummm, what happened to my last post?

The United States is notorious for having its fingers in many pies. One of the ways Uncle Sam tries to coerce other states to get in line with his preferred policies is by doling out foreign aid — lots of it. The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) states that its function is to provide “economic, development and humanitarian assistance around the world in support of the foreign policy goals of the United States.” Thanks to the slut clinton, when she was the secretary of slut/state, the US gave over $63 million dollars in 2010, to Yemen. The fool increased assistance to $147 million in 2011 and exceed $337 million is 2012.
It is wondrous to know that in 2012, $337 million tax payer dollars went to support terrorist activity via your pres. The plane ride to Hawaii for his vacation cost the US tax papers almost $8 million is fuel and operations. Wonder who is on the welfare dole?

retire05
your last post got edited.

@MOS 8541:

retire05
your last post got edited.

For what reason?

And by whom?

Apparently posters are not being informed as to why their posts have not been published so I’ll just unsubscribe to this service.

@Nanny: #16

He simply does not see Islamic colonization as a problem

Strangely, what Muslims did to North Africa was much worse than colonization — besides wholesale slaughter, enslavement and rape, they forced their language, their religion, and their culture on conquered lands.

You’re right, Obama is historically deficient.

@john: They were killing “infidels” long before you lived in their countries. So called peaceful Muslims are considered to lack the courage to support the teachings of Mohammad.

@Scott in Oklahoma: If BHO is a Muslim the I

@Rich Wheeler: CONT. Imans must have been displeased with his time spent with Rev. Wright.

@Rich Wheeler: Why?
Did you know that Obama wouldn’t join Wright’s church unless he could do so without being baptized?
Baptismal records are public.
Obama talks about his Christian faith, but shows complete ignorance of even its basics.
When he first came into office he told the public that he and Michelle never celebrated Christmas nor gave Christmas presents to the girls.
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Another area where Islam could reform (if it wanted to) is the area of its treatment of the alien resident in Sharia-ruled lands.
We all know (and expect) that foreigners can come to the USA and become NATURALIZED CITIZENS.
But we are ignorant of the fact that this is not the case in any Sharia state.
There are over 50 Sharia states.
Get disrupted by war and leave your Sharia country to settle in a neighboring sharia-ruled country and neither you nor your children, nor even new babies born in your new land, (nor even their babies!) are ever granted citizenship!
But that same Muslim family comes to Canada, USA, European countries they may be able to be naturalized, and their children are considered to be natives of their newly adopted country!
Think of being a permanent alien in the land you and even your parents were born in.
You are cut off from education, medical care, political power and good job opportunities….forever.
Think that’s not an incubator for ”extremism” in Islam?
It is a breeding grounds for jihadists who have few other corridors open to them.

@Nanny: My own thought is BHO is an agnostic or atheist like his mother. It certainly is not politically expedient to profess this. No question , that in the U.S., ,percentage wise, atheism is growing faster than any religion though it represents only 2-4% of the population.
I’m off to Church—may all have a blessed day.

When the Invaders first appeared on the eastern seaboard they tried to convert the natives to Christianity whereupon the natives told them that it was a lie that there are such things as gods and that the white man would never be able to produce his god no matter how hard or how long he tried. Here we are hundreds of years later and the white man STILL! cannot produce his god yet he continues to perpetrate that lie, making the white man ipso facto a liar.

@kamanalo: oooo man problems ……….get some help maleaphobe

@kamanalo: ipso fatso thats funny for a caucasionaphobe