Obamacare: Live by the lie, die by the lie

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Remember how Barbie and Obama agreed that math is hard?

Now we know why President Barack Obama couldn’t recall the national debt during a chat with David Letterman a few weeks back.

He’s got something in common with a certain iconic doll – Math is hard.

Obama appeared on “The Tonight Show” last night, and he got into a soft and fuzzy exchange with host Jay Leno about his daughter’s homework.

“The math stuff I was fine with up until about seventh grade … Malia’s now a freshman in high school, and I’m pretty lost,” Obama confessed to Leno.

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Well, he was right. Math is hard for him. And it is hard for those who wrote Obamacare.

In order for Obamacare to succeed, the financial contributions of young healthy are a necessity:

Now Simas, a sad-eyed Massachusetts native with a facility for PowerPoints, needs to reach those same groups again — with a much harder ask. This time, he doesn’t just need them to vote. He needs them to buy health insurance, and, in some cases, spend hundreds of dollars a month for it. If they don’t, the new insurance marketplaces — the absolute core of Obamacare — will be filled with older, sicker people, and premiums will skyrocket. And if that happens, the law will fail.

They desperately need the young and the well to ante up. So what is happening?

Young people are signing up, alright. For Medicaid.

CBS News has confirmed that in Washington, of the more than 35,000 people newly enrolled, 87 percent signed up for Medicaid. In Kentucky, out of 26,000 new enrollments, 82 percent are in Medicaid. And in New York, of 37,000 enrollments, Medicaid accounts for 64 percent. And there are similar stories across the country in nearly half of the states that run their own exchanges. …

And let us not forget that Obamacare provided for those 26 and under to remain on their parent’s plan.

And let us also not forget that Obamacare provides perverse incentives, i.e. it’s cheaper to pay the penalty than to buy the insurance. Supporters, of course, throw in this caveat:

“People buy health insurance for stability, making sure they aren’t bankrupted by a car accident or heart attack,” said Timothy Jost, a law professor who studies health policy at Washington and Lee School of Law who supports the law. “For a lot of those people they’re going to decide they’d rather pay a bit more for insurance and have something than pay the penalty and be uninsured.”

A couple of things. First, that’s always been true, and second, it points to the need for catastrophic plans, most of which no longer qualify under Obamacare.

So will those young adult who already have insurance see their premiums soar? Yep.

Health care rates could increase by as much as 102 percent in Wisconsin under Obamacare according to an analysis released by the MacIver Institute on Friday.

MacIver released data earlier in the week that showed the average health care premiums for three different groups: a 27 year-old, a 50 year-old, and a family of four. The free-market think tank then compared the rates to what these same groups can find on the current private sector market.

Current insurance rates are available through eHealth, a website that allows individuals to search for health insurance from a variety of insurers all in one place. MacIver calculated the average rates available in each group and compared them to data available on the HealthCare.gov website.

The analysis shows that rates will spike, especially for young individuals in Wisconsin.

A 27 year old in Brown County will see rates more than double beginning in 2014. That same age group will see rates increase 93.6 percent in Madison, 91.2 percent in Milwaukee, and 72.6 percent in Eau Claire.

It’s cheaper not to buy the insurance and it’s cheaper to stay on Mom and Dad’s plans. Facts.

And who are you going to get to treat you?

For the government, to help make this math work, the Medicare billing rates are an obvious target. Much of the private market is priced off these schedules. But physician pay is likely to be in the crosshairs for a long time.

Last year, the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission proposed to cut what Medicare pays specialists and then freezing these lower rates for years. Under that plan, everyone except primary-care docs would see payments for their services cut by 5.9 percent a year for three years (totaling a 16.7 percent cut in income), followed by a seven-year freeze at the reduced levels. Primary-care providers would have their reimbursement rates frozen at today’s pay levels for the whole decade.

While these are just proposals, they have to be taken seriously. The Medicare Commission’s recommendations are typically a harbinger of future policy decisions.

Doctors are retiring early, rather than endure this abuse. I know several of them personally.

Funny how politicians’ salaries are never in the crosshairs.

But just give it time, it will work, they say. Perhaps we need to wait until those seniors who are losing their doctors die off:

ObamaCare is making seniors sick.

Elderly New Yorkers are in a panic after getting notices that insurance companies are booting their doctors from the Medicare Advantage program as a result of the shifting medical landscape under ObamaCare.

That leaves patients with unenviable choices: keep the same insurance plan and find another doctor, pay out of pocket or look for another plan where their physician is a member.

New York State Medical Society President Sam Unterricht is demanding a congressional probe after learning that one health carrier alone, UnitedHealthcare, is terminating contracts with up to 2,100 doctors serving 8,000 Medicare Advantage patients in the New York metro region.

In the interim, Obama is doing the best thing he can do:

obama lipstick on a pig

Obamacare is doomed, and as Curt noted, we should do absolutely nothing to change it, especially as the loss of plans and loss of doctors and the reality of skyrocketing premiums settle in. You’re not going to be able to keep anything except for the memories of Obama’s lies.

Born of the lie, die by the lie.

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With profuse apologies to Revlon et alii and to pigs everywhere.

It gets worse…..

CBS News has confirmed that in Washington, of the more than 35,000 people newly enrolled, 87 percent signed up for Medicaid.

Yup, lots of folks in Washington were signing up.
BUT…..
The Washington web site asked for MONTHLY income, then calculated it (for the subsidy) as if it were ANNUAL income!
Thousands of those who thought they were qualified for a 100% subsidy will be soon finding out they qualify for NO subsidy!
How many of them will then walk away?
I’d guess in the 90% range.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101128768#_gus

Keep up the great work! Glad I found your blog!!
Steve
Common Cents
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com

ps. Link Exchange??

The Communication Workers of America pushed, hard, for Obamacare. They were just one union that did so. So AT&T union members donned their red shirts with CWA blazoned across them, and held rally after rally to push for the Affordable Health Care Act. Oooops.

This month those AT&T retirees got their new enrollment packages. No biggie. Happens every year. For those who retired at least three years ago, company covered health insurance was part of their retirement package. It was a reward for putting in at least 30 years. Well, until last year. Starting last year, it would cost them, for themselves and their spouses, $79/month, unless they were on Medicaid, then it was $10/month. The die hard union progressives scoffed. What is $10-90/month? They could handle that. It was still sweet.

All that has changed. If they want to keep the same plan they had through the end of this year, the rates have gone up just a bit. For the non-Medicare eligible retiree/spouse, it is now $128 a month, a 62% increase. and for the retiree/spouse that has Medicare as their primary, their monthly premium has gone from $10/month to $110/month, well over 1,000% increase. Oh, and all those years those retirees worked thinking they would have company sponsored health insurance that served as their primary carrier until 65, at which point it would become their secondary carrier, well, that didn’t work out either. Starting in 2015, AT&T will provide those retirees reaching, or having reached the age of 65, with a list of carriers that the retirees can purchase, out of pocket, secondary insurance plans to supplement Medicare. And that vision insurance coverage they had, well it only went up 20%, but it also drops the retiree once they are Medicare eligible.

But those retirees should cheer up. All those guys who have developed pot bellies in their retirement years, now have maternity benefits, as do their 60 year old wives. And the women, well they have the comfort of knowing that not only do they have maternity coverage, they also have prostrate cancer coverage.

Now, there is that little matter of the “Cadillac” plan coverage. In 2009, AT&T determined that the value of the health insurance coverage for employee only (not including spouse/children) was $10,040/yr. Depending on the value placed on the current plans, it is possible that all those red-shirted CWA members who believed their union, and Obama, will be required to pay the “Cadillac plan” tax on their company sponsored health insurance which could add substantially to the monthly cost of their insurance. But not to worry; the tax is only 40% of the value of anything over the limits set by the government (I believe it is $10,600 single, somewhere around $26,000 family).

Well, Obama said if you like your insurance, you could keep it. The CWA parroted that. They just didn’t say that it was going to cost those members/retirees 62-1,000% more or that sooner, than later, they were going to be dumped into the private sector looking for supplemental health insurance to cover what Medicare doesn’t cover that they will pay for out of their own pocket. All those years of taking less hourly salaries, because the union/company negotiated for retirement benefits, just went down the drain.

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (For Govenor 2013) – A TRUE CONSERVATIVE who needs ALL of OUR (Americas) SUPPORT…

This election for Governor (2013) in Virginia is crucial to ALL of us! (Think Scott Walker’s crucial victory in Wisconsin)

Please visit his website and if possible, send a donation …Again this is a crucial election!

His opponent is as far LEFT as they come…his opponent (Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe) does not think Obamacare “goes far enough”…Terry McAuliffee has some formidable backers such as Nanny Bloomberg, and the Clintons have been ‘wandering’ around Virgina as of late…

“Leading in the polls since the partial federal government shutdown, Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe hit opponent Ken Cuccinelli over social issues like abortion and gay rights while Cuccinelli fought back, linking McAuliffe to Obamacare and its rocky roll-out, asking “Why would we expand failure?”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/24/in-final-round-of-virginia-gubernatorial-debates-candidates-keep-up-verbal-slugging-neither-scores-kno

From his Website – KenCuccinelli.com –
He received the Defender of the Constitution Award from the Conservative Political Action Conference for leading the fight against the unconstitutional overreach of the federal government, which threatens the liberty of every citizen. He was the first attorney general to sue over Obamacare (although the case was lost, the Supreme Court of the United States agreed with his legal arguments).

Mr. Cuccinelli advised the commonwealth not to create Obamacare’s state-based health insurance exchange where people can purchase subsidized insurance. By not creating the exchange, Virginia employers may be saved from the $2000-$3000 per employee Obamacare tax if they can’t afford to provide government-approved health insurance for their employees. Not creating the exchange could save Virginia businesses billions annually and put the commonwealth at huge competitive advantage for attracting businesses over neighboring states with state-created health insurance exchanges.

Again this is a crucial election this year…Please show your support for Ken!

THANK YOU!!!

JOE WILSON WAS RIGHT!! (You LIE!!)

THE TEA PARTY WAS RIGHT!! (Government!! Hands off our Health Care!!)

FAITH7
yes THE PEOPLE have a better chance to be served with the truth from KEN CUCCINELLI
THE OTHER IS BOUND TO THE DEMOCRATS LIKE A TWIN ATTACH TOGETHER WITH HIS ALIKE,

I always amazes me when the wealthy GOP get morons to believe lies and turn against programs which could save a life of a family member. BFD, someone who went to Michelle’s college is on the team.

@This one:

This from a leftist moron who refuses to ever answer any questions regarding all the lies Obama and his ilk have made like:

1. If you like your doctor or your insurance, you can keep them.

2. Premiums will go down under obamacare an average of $2500 a year.

3. If you make less than $250,000/yr your taxes won’t go up a single dime.

4. Obamacare will not pay for abortions.

5. Obamacare will bend the healthcare cost curve down.

6. There are no death panels. (IPAB is a death panel)

7. Illegal aliens will not be covered under obamacare.

8. Obamacare is not a step towards single payor.

By the way, This One Troll, how has obamacare affected your health insurance rates?

@FAITH7:

I’m a Virginian and I’ll be pulling the lever for Cooch. Terry M is a flat out crook. What scares me is if Terry wins he could one day run for president, where he’ll promise the world and deliver the pain.

One of the critical assumptions that the Obama crowd is making is that all young adults are internet gurus who make six-figure incomes and can easily afford the premiums.
An easy assumption for them to make, as those are the only young adults that these politicians know.
Obamacare will certainly fail, the only question is, what will replace it?

Suggestion to all: Ignore This One. Do not respond. Maybe he’ll get bored and start trolling somewhere else. I hate to suggest that, but he is pretty useless, even for a troll.
At least the other Liberals that come here contribute something to the discussion.

@Petercat:

Unfortunately he gets paid to troll his nonsense.

@This one: are you really as stupid as you seem…do read at all? do you look up anything yourself?

@Mully:

Unfortunately he gets paid to troll his nonsense.

They are wasting their money on his pathetic trolling. No one is buying This One’s BS.

Obama has changed his tune…..again.
95% of Americans are OK because their healthcare plan is through their employer.
Only those few who had to get individual policies need special help.
So…..WHY create ObamaCare?????
Recall, ONLY a few were UNINSURED!
Fewer than those 95%.
Why not just make a little fix for them????
But, NO!!!!!
See, there’s a difference between potential ObamaSuppporters/Dem voters needing help VS those who are being inconvenienced (and ROBBED) on the other side.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/31/obama-officials-in-2010-93-million-americans-will-be-unable-to-keep-their-health-plans-under-obamacare/