The most negative primary campaign in history… or “How to Buy a Nomination”, by Mitt Romney

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I heard this data read on Mark Levin this afternoon, and picked it up from the CNN PoliticalTicker blog by way of Lucianne.

I’ll provide the nothing shy of jaw-dropping stats below… how you choose to absorb this ugly reality about election campaigns and negative advertising is, of course, completely up to you.

Me? To use the “he who dies with the most toys…” old saying, paraphrased, obviously he who has the most money for a campaign, combined with the least scruples, wins.

Statistics provided by the Campaign Media Analysis Group (CMAG).

“I spent much of my academic career telling reporters, ‘Relax, this is not the most negative campaign ever,'” CMAG President Ken Goldstein said. “Well, this IS the most negative campaign ever.”

Numbers from CMAG show a total of 11,586 television spots aired in Florida between January 23 and January 29. [Mata Musing: that’s 1655 per day, or close to one every minute of a 24 hour period… no wonder my relatives were complaining…] Of those spots, 10,633 were negative and 953 were positive.

Of the 1,012 spots Newt Gingrich’s campaign ran, 95% were negative. Mitt Romney’s campaign ran 3,276 ads and 99% were negative.

The two super PACs supporting the top candidates were more divergent in their ad strategies. Restore our Future, supporting Romney, ran 4,969 spots, all of which were negative. The Gingrich-backing Winning our Future ran 1,893 spots, and only 53% were negative.

Correspondingly, the bulk of ads in Florida – 68% – were negative toward Gingrich. Twenty-three percent were anti-Romney spots. Gingrich got support from 9% of ads while pro-Romney spots accounted for less than 0.1%.

With these stats, the lesson learned is that Romney never won by positive campaigning… only by tearing down his opponent. How Obama’esque of him…. I’ve already got a POTUS with this version of ethics. Do I really want to replace him with another, just because he fakes an “R” behind his name?

Romney, of course, was busy playing the victim, whining like a little kid to his Mom, pointing fingers saying “he started it!” in reference to Newt. Unfortunately, that’s not how it went.

It was Romney’s well timed onslaught of SuperPac spending in Iowa that crashed Newt’s momentum there. Romney also outspent Newt 2 to 1 in South Carolina. Florida? Well, the above tells the story.

Needless to say, Romney’s feigned innocence and cries of “victim”, after outspending Gingrich four to one, are somewhat disingenuous to put it mildly.

In fact, as of Jan 10th, 96% of the SuperPACs’ spending on negative ads were targeting Gingrich. It’s amazing the guy’s gotten as far as he has, vacillating between being the front runner and in second both in the state, and nationally. As of the 20th of January, the SuperPAC spending had clicked up to about $33 million (both positive and negative of all candidates), with Romney leading the pack with $11 million, or 1/3rd of all SuperPAC spending alone.

While Mitt’s busy spending money, hands over fists, to destroy his competitor, what will he have left to defend himself again Obama’s massive war chest in the general? If Romney is, today, gloating over a win based on buying a State Primary with negative ads, saying they served him well, he’s got little hope of out spending Obama in the general.

There’s no money back guarantee on a Mittens candidacy if or when he loses to Obama when cast as the heartless, soul’less capitalist pig. The man who is the epitome of everything that Obama rails against. We sure know that health care will be off the table, since Romney was the architect of Obama’care. Mandates that force citizens to buy a product, simply because they live and breathe, are no more Constitutional at the state level than they are at the federal. Our inalienable rights do not stop at State boundaries.

Meanwhile, for some primary return fun, the folks over at ABC have decided to publish their predictions of by just how much Newt would be losing to Romney in Florida, in percentages ranging from 7-8% to 28%. It’s 6:41PM PT, and the cable news has called the election for Romney at 47%/Gingrich with 32% with 81% of the vote in (ever changing). Guess they’ll have to wait to declare the winner.

Wonder if they’re running a pool for cash…

AMY WALTER – ABC News Political Director

Romney- 45%
Newt- 29%
Santorum- 14%
Paul- 12%

JONATHAN KARL – ABC News Senior Political Correspondent

Romney – 41%
Gingrich – 28%
Santorum – 16%
Paul – 11%

RICK KLEIN – Senior Washington Editor

Romney – 45%
Gingrich – 27%
Paul – 15%
Santorum – 11%

Z. BYRON WOLF – Politics Editor for ABC News.com

Romney – 37%
Gingrich – 27%
Santorum – 12 %
Paul – 12 %

Eric Noe – ABCNews.com Deputy Managing Editor

Romney: 43%
Gingrich: 29%
Santorum: 16%
Paul: 12%

SHUSHANNAH WALSHE – ABC News Digital Reporter

Mitt Romney – 36 %
Newt Gingrich – 29 %
Rick Santorum – 15%
Ron Paul – 13%

GEORGE SANCHEZ – ABC News Washington, DC Assignment Editor

Romney – 49%
Gingrich – 21%
Santorum – 16%
Paul – 12%

ELIZABETH HARTFIELD – ABC News Political Unit

Romney- 41%
Gingrich- 28%
Santorum- 14%
Paul- 11%

CHRIS GOOD – ABC News Political Unit

Romney – 38%
Gingrich – 30%
Santorum – 12%
Paul – 11%

MATT NEGRIN – ABC News Political Reporter

Romney – 36%
Gingrich – 29%
Paul – 17%
Santorum – 15%

AMY BINGHAM – ABC News.com Reporter

Romney- 43%
Gingrich- 28%
Santorum- 12%
Paul- 9%

SARAH PARNASS – ABC News Intern

Romney – 46%
Gingrich – 27%
Santorum – 16%
Paul – 11%

ALEXA KEYES – ABC News Intern

Romney -44%
Gingrich – 29%
Santorum -14%
Paul – 11%

We have a problem, folks. While I support the voters’ right to choose via elections, even if not my candidate of choice, the amount of money and the sleazy tactics that have permeated our process are beyond alarming. So you’ll forgive me if I don’t celebrate the primary results, as it’s going now.

It turns out that all we feared may be true, as it plays out before our very eyes and with documented facts… that offices of our central government are, indeed, for sale to the highest bidder with those with the most creative lies.

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A “must read” … C. Edmund Wright’s American Thinker article 2/1/12 – “Mitt’s Scorched Earth Win”.

Another “must”…Thomas Sowell’s primary day column, “The Florida Smear Campaign”

George Neumayr’s American Thinker article, “Romney’s Cheap and Empty Win”… tho I might disagree as to how “cheap” it was in a monetary perspective.

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Nan G
HI,
I found another one you might like; Every woman should have four pets in her life:
a mink in her closet, a jaguar in her garage, a tiger in her bed, and a jackass who pay for everything.
bye

@MataHarley:

Now I don’t disagree that there are flaws in the legislation.

Would you consider it to be a ‘flaw’ if you lost your land?

Yup, HR… another “I hate everyone” Ivan. Wonder if he’s a sockpuppet? LOL

Insults are the hallmark of someone who can’t back up their bs. (Like I wrote earlier, Newt’s not a conservative)

SOCK PUPPET ALERT! SOCK PUPPET ALERT!

What fallacy do you think this falls under?
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter: Do you even understand the “realpolitik Wilsonian” quote which you use to deride Newt?

If so, explain.

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Edited to ad:

So RPIR, I already cleaned your clock on another thread, now you tangle with Mata and get slapped down yet again.

But I will ask again, do you even understand the “realpolitik Wilsonian” quote that you assume is a derogatory term about Newt?

I can almost guarantee you do not.

@MataHarley: You go, girl!

Um, okay I got that out of my system, but the sentiment remains – You know how to kick ass, Ms. Harley!

@anticsrocks:

So RPIR, I already cleaned your clock on another thread

Not really, but by all means go with it if it helps you to sleep at night.

You go, girl! Um, okay I got that out of my system, but the sentiment remains – You know how to kick ass, Ms. Harley!

Yeah, she’s kicks ass….She kicks ass in the same way that her hero Newt shrank the government and paid down our debt while he was Speaker and Whip.

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter/RPIR: LOL!!

THAT’S your comeback???

Hahahahhahaha

Odd how you avoid answering questions no matter what silly name you use.

Minarchist Freedom Fighter
you should back up your negatives remarks about NEWT GINGRISH, with a proof,
because MATA has the knowledge about it, and can refute your attacks as fast,

@ilovebeeswarzone: That’s just it Beezy, MFF/RPIR is just like our President, an empty suit with no substance.

@MataHarley: The images conjured of MFF/RPIR are just like what Mark Levin is always saying – sitting in boxer shorts, munching Cheetos in their Mom’s basement.

LOL

On the land rights issue, I agree and it brings to mind how much I abhor property taxes. I mean crap, I bought the damn land/house and Uncle Sam sure had his hand out when I did. But every year, he comes a’knockin’ asking for more…

Okay, off my soapbox. lol

@MataHarley:
So is this what passes for intelligent discussion here? (Name calling, logical fallacies, groupthink high-fiving…is this Usenet?)

Note: not one personal attack from me.

No clue what conspiratorial site RPIR/AFF is haunting, but they sure are incredibly naive… no, make that stupid… about property ownership in the US.

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

Minarchist Freedom Fighter
you are in the twilight zone here, it’s a labyrinth to make you find the exit the hard way.
every stranger has to go through that screening,
bye

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter: And you still avoid answering my question…

Interesting.

Evidently you don’t know the origins of the “realpolitik Wilsonian” quote that you think is an insult towards Newt Gingrich.

I didn’t think you did.

@anticsrocks:

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter: And you still avoid answering my question…

You continually insult me…And you expect me to continue carrying on a conversation with you? (Giant cojones)

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter: There’s no shame in admitting you don’t know.

And I hate to brag. Giant? Hmm, at least well above average…

😀

@MataHarley:

At first it didn’t mean anything to me, but the more I thought about it, it’s kind of disturbing to have someone who represents this site releasing info about my past names….Tell me something Mata, if you had found my real name, would you have released that too? Where I work? My address? Pictures of my family? Is their any anonymity when it comes to this site, or if you get really mad can I expect anything and everything to be used?

And this isn’t the first time you’ve pulled this stunt?!?!? =-O

I live in a city where a guy was recently shot dead because somebody didn’t like what they had to say in a chat group, just like this, and decided to do something about it. I really don’t want to be next. Should I be afraid?

@MFF/RPIR: Ah, c’mon. You ain’t so ugly as to scare lil’ chilluns, are ya?

Tough guy uses different names – “sock puppets” – to be dishonest about who he is and what his agenda is. But when called out on it, the tough guy starts whinin’ about Mata pickin’ on him.

Priceless.

I’ve had my fair share of insults on “teh interwebz” and I ain’t never cried foul. Oh well, when you’re a liberal nut job who cannot even answer the simplest of questions, I s’pose all you got left is to cry and whine about being called a sock puppet.

Sad.

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter: You are using the same IP and same email address as Ron Paul Is Right. So you have changed your username. Now choose one and stay with it or I will assume you are trying to be a sockpuppet and you will be banned. Up to you, first and last warning.

Mata,
Your expertise in home and property loans an mortgages makes this a “must read” for you:

Armageddon at the Strip Mall

I cannot begin to tell you all how much I dislike when people engage in devious behaviour meant to deceive, and yet, when they are caught out in the lie they weaved, by their own hands, they then immediately start crying foul and playing the victim card.

The liberal/progressives population is littered with people famous for doing this. I believe it’s because they have no foundation upon which to build their moral principles of right and wrong, and because of that, they have no compunction about falsely accusing those who have outed them.

I’d go further into what I perceive the conscious mindset of these people is, and why they are failures in life, but I don’t really want to start a book here.

@MataHarley: @Curt:
First off, I enjoy your site. As for the name change, with the constant drip of racism and the like coming out of the Paul camp, I was actually planning on using “Minarchist Freedom Fighter” permanently. I didn’t want to be associated with that. Now….Hell, I don’t want any trouble so I’ll just stop posting to this site. (Could you please delete all my post off this site? ODIDC)


I wasn’t trying to deceive anyone. I had no problem with people knowing that I was RPIR. If anyone had asked I would have told them. I have no problem with it being released. (I have a problem with it coming out over a trivial disagreement over a candidate. It makes me wonder what’s next)

I live in a true blue state where the freedom of speech is free so long as they agree with you. I don’t need unbalanced libs showing up at my house. It’s just not worth it.

@Minarchist Freedom Fighter: Don’t rush off in the heat of the day without a blanket…

If you ever get your “Cajones” up to size and come back, I will gladly educate you about that little Wilsonian quote you don’t understand.

MATA
very well said, no ambiguity there, and fair for all, including Minarchist Freedom Fighter,
who could be a good debater as the election advance, any opinion is good because we are on the same side, all hard head CONSERVATIVES, TOGETHER FOR THE SAME GOAL, DEFEATING OBAMA IN 2012,
AND MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ARE COMMENTED, THERE IS NO TIME TO QUIT AT THIS TIME.
BYE

Bees……. just 8 more posts ’til we’re at the 200 mark… now where the hell’s that dingo with my stick?

Donald Bly
the dingo is beating on a libtard with the stick,
I have your back for the 200. I’m alert and not afraid,
let’s get it, no time to waste, no mercy.
bye

@ Richard Wheeler.. did you change E-mails?? Got SRV ready to send, but the e-mail I sent got no response?

Hankster How are ya? rjwheeler22@yahoo.com. Keep rockin.

Donald Bly
I see the dingo’s coming, with the stick, and the libtard,

what do I do now? do you still have the boomerang?

Donald Bly
report to command post at once, emergency on the post, require action now,
move it, on the double, 1 2 3

198…

anticsrocks
hello there , I’m the 199

anticsrocks
hello there, anyone , it’s early, so I’ll take the 200 too,
if you don’t min
bye thank you

@ilovebeeswarzone: Go for it Beezy. Grats. I had to work, so I hit 198 before I left and 201 when I got home.

anticsrocks
yes thank you for the 198, it help me, and I took the other one, ,because I knew you where at work or sleeping at my time, and didn’t want a wheellr rolling in to take it, bye

anticsrocks
what do you think of what I’m thinking now; RON PAUL AND SANTORIUM, IF AT ONE TIME GET BEHIND FURTHER,
could give NEWT THEIR followers votes, that would propel NEWT IN FRONT TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY,and I’m sure they would get in close to NEWT IN THE DUTY OF PREVENTING AMERICA TO BE DESTROYED AGAIN , and play a good positive role in GOVERNMENT WHICH WILL HAVE THE NEED OF THE RIGHT AMERICANS , BECAUSE OF THE GIGANTIC REPAIRING JOBS NEEDED IN THE NEW PRESIDENCY

@ilovebeeswarzone: Well there is no doubt that Santorum’s voters would go to Newt in the event Santorum were to drop out.

Not all of Ron Paul’s votes would go to Newt, but he would definitely get a portion of them.

@Mata

Wow – what weak excuses you use in defending Gingrich…

Apparently he’s not hypocritical in using negativity in his campaigns and bitching about himself being a target…because…he was trying to ‘differentiate himself from his opponents’ and because his …well…opponents also use negative campaigning…and…and…(this is a great one) he’s not the worst negative campaigner in modern US political history! Lol weak. If you don’t believe in negativity campaigning then don’t do it. Simple. Has Gingrich used negative campaigning in the past? Yes. Is he using it now? Yes. As I say – hypocrite.

Apparently someone who served as the Speaker of the House, has a 20 year record in Congress plus time spent as a Washington consultant is an ‘outsider’. He wants to parade his experience, his endorsements from notable Republicans from previous administrations and the deals he has cut (fine) but he then tries to make out he’s an outsider – drawing on that hoary old cliché. If everyone in politics considered themselves an outsider when they fall foul of their colleagues then the place would be awash with outsiders. Being an insider who isn’t liked doesn’t make you an outsider. As Jon Stewart put it to Gingrich ‘When Washington gets its prostrate checked, it tickles you’. LOL

As for the ethics charge –

Gingrich is paying $300,000 for the costs of an ethics committee investigation after admitting last year he made inaccurate statements during a lengthy probe into Democratic allegations that he misused tax-exempt donations. Gingrich denied the charges but submitted to a reprimand by the House.

And

The ethics panel decided to take no further action because there is no evidence that “Rule 45” violations are continuing in the speaker’s office, a post Gingrich has held since 1995. Consultant Jeffrey Eisenach’s work took place while Gingrich was the GOP minority whip in 1990-91.

So he was found guilty of a charge which he admitted to and he got let off another one. But that’s okay because apparently it’s more important the number of charges which don’t stick that the ones that do. Lol. So he was guilty of that charge and it wasn’t fake. He led a witchhunt against Clinton and he got impaled upon a witchhunt aimed at him. Sounds like he got his just desserts there. He led the charge against Clinton and he went too far – hence why his colleagues turned on him. He only has himself to blame there.

I don’t complain about Gingrich for compromising with Democrats – quite the opposite. The fact he compromised in some areas and was instrumental in balancing the budget is to his credit. And if he was a straight forward honest fiscal conservative then I would think he was the best thing for the US. But he isn’t. Even in politics – his dishonesty is quite breathtaking.

Why do people Gingrich expect he will clean up Washington when he was part of the problem!

Encouraging Earmarks
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289425/newt-and-earmark-era-katrina-trinko

Howabout the House banking scandal which Gingrich drew attention to despite him hypocritically having kiting 22 checks including $9,463 to the IRS? I guess that’s ok because as long as he wasn’t the worst offender…lol

Here’s an example of negativity from Gingrich’s Superpac
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/four-pinocchios-for-king-of-bain/2012/01/12/gIQADX8WuP_blog.html

Gingrich was clearly hypocritical in his effort to get Clinton impeached over his infidelity whilst committing infidelity himself was and preaching about moral standards.

With Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae – Gingrich was paid by them and duly defended them – until after he was paid and politically it was expient to

Gingrich even praised Romney’s healthcare plan at the time
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204296804577123043147395330.html

lol

@Gaffer: Oh Gaffer, you really do like to stick your nose into things you cannot even participate in. How sad.

Newt was found not guilty by Clinton’s IRS.

CNN: IRS Exonerated Gingrich in 1999

This is audio from Neil Boortz’ radio show in which he explains step-by-step the entire ethics “scandal” that you seem unable to understand, Gaffer. It is 12 or so minutes, but it is well worth the time if you are interested in the truth. If you just want to nurse your hate on for Newt, then don’t bother.

Then you twist reality to find Newt liable for the content of ads put out by a SuperPAC.

As much as I abhor citing wikipedia, it does have the rules correct in this case:

Super PACs are not allowed to coordinate directly with candidates or political parties since they are “independent”. However, a candidate may “talk to his associated super PAC via the media. And the super PAC can listen, like everybody else,” according to journalist Peter Grier, election law expert Rick Hasen and former chairman of the United States Federal Election Commission Trevor Potter… – Source

Then you dredge up the Fannie/Freddie Democrat talking points INRE Gingrich.

He released his contract with the GSE, which clearly showed he did not lobby.

The contract released yesterday states that Gingrich and his firm were retained to “provide consulting and related services as requested by Freddie Mac’s Director, Public Policy in exchange for which Freddie Mac will pay Consultant $25,000 per each full calendar month.” The director of public policy was the head of Freddie Mac’s lobbying arm.

“The contract was solely for consulting purposes and not lobbying,” Nancy Desmond, who has served as chairman and chief executive officer of the Center for Health Transformation since Gingrich left the firm to seek the presidency in May, said in a statement.

Gingrich’s consulting contract expired at the end of 2007, Meyers said. – Source

Additionally J.C.Watts, a Republican House member from Oklahoma (1995-2003) was on the House Banking Committee and has publicly testified that Newt Gingrich’s name never came up at all as a lobbyist for the GSE’s.

Watts said Gingrich, a former House speaker, was never a part of the discussions on Capitol Hill about Freddie Mac. He criticized Romney for accusing Gingrich of lobbying for Freddie Mac because it isn’t true — and because it’s hypocritical to blast Gingrich for hiding the nature of his work when Romney took steps to conceal public records pertaining to his service as Massachusetts governor.

Watts, a former four-term congressman from Oklahoma first elected with the Republican revolution that Gingrich led in 1994, is a former chairman of FM Policy Focus, an arm of his Washington consulting firm that represented various financial institutions who were pushing for greater oversight of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. – Source

Really Gaffer, you ought to at least do a little homework before you spout off like this. It is rather tiresome, you know.

Gaffa…. you seem to OBSESS over the USA…. I can see US doing it, it’s out home. What’s YOUR deal??? You know, YOUR nation, has become such a tangled up Socialist clusterpluck of what it ONCE was.. I’d think, you’d focus, on trying to SAVE the (once) Great Britain!! Instead of huffing and puffing over the Colonies… just saying!
(unless you are considering US a place to refuge too, once England goes completely mad with Social Utopitis, thus are worried about OUR health)

ALL nations of the world, would do much better, if that managed their OWN back yards, before obsessing, and interfering in the backyards of OTHERS……. US INCLUDED!

@MataHarley: Well said Mata. You addressed points I neglected to discuss.

@Hankster58

Do you know what socialism is?

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
See socialism defined for English-language learners »
See socialism defined for kids »

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Here’s a list of companies that have been privatised – almost all during or after Thatcher…

British Petroleum (1977, 1979, 1981, 1987)
International Computers Limited (1979)
Thomas Cook (1972)
[edit] 1980sAmersham International (1982)
Associated British Ports (1983, 1984)
British Aerospace (1981, 1985)
British Airports Authority (1987)
British Airways (1987)
British Airways Helicopters (1986)
British Gas (1986)
British Leyland
Alvis (1981)
Coventry Climax (1982)
Danish Automobile Building (1987)
Istel (1987)
Jaguar (1984)
Leyland Bus (1987)
Leyland Tractors (1982)
Leyland Trucks (1987)
Rover Group (1988)
Unipart (1987)
British Rail Engineering Limited (1989)
British Shipbuilders (1985 – 1989, shipbuilder companies sold individually)
British Steel (1988)
British Sugar (1982)
British Telecom (1984, 1991, 1993)
British Transport Hotels (1983)
Britoil (1982, 1985)
Cable and Wireless (1981, 1983, 1985)
Council Houses (1980 – present, over two million sold to their tenants) – see main article Right to buy scheme
Enterprise Oil (1984)
Fairey (1980)
Ferranti (1980)
Inmos (1984)
Municipal Bus Companies (1988 – present, bus companies sold individually) – see main article Bus deregulation in Great Britain
National Bus Company (1986 – 1988, bus companies sold individually)
National Express (1988)
National Freight Corporation (1982)
Passenger Transport Executive Bus Companies (1988 – 1994, bus companies sold individually)
Rolls-Royce (1987)
Royal Ordnance (1987)
Sealink (1984)
Water Companies – see main article Water privatisation in England and Wales
Anglian Water (1989)
Northumbrian Water (1989)
North West Water (1989)
Severn Trent (1989)
Southern Water (1989)
South West Water (1989)
Thames Water (1989)
Welsh Water (1989)
Wessex Water (1989)
Yorkshire Water (1989)
[edit] 1990sAEA Technology (1996)
Belfast International Airport (1994)
British Coal (1994)
British Energy (1996)
British Rail – see main article Privatisation of British Rail
3 Rolling Stock Companies
Angel Trains (1996)
Eversholt Leasing (1996)
Porterbrook (1996)
6 Design Office Units (1995 – 1997, sold individually)
6 Freight Operating Companies
Freightliner (1995)
Loadhaul (1996)
Mainline Freight (1996)
Rail Express Systems (1996)
Railfreight Distribution (1997)
Transrail Freight (1996)
6 Track Renewal Units (1995 – 1997, sold individually)
7 Infrastructure Maintenance Units (1995 – 1997, sold individually)
25 Train Operating Companies (1996, operations contracted out as franchises)
British Rail Research (1996)
British Rail Telecommunications (1995)
European Passenger Services (1996)
Railtrack (1996)
Red Star Parcels (1995)
Union Railways (1996)
British Technology Group (1992)
Building Research Establishment (1997)
Central Electricity Generating Board
National Grid (1990)
National Power (1991, 1995)
PowerGen (1991, 1995)
Girobank (1990)
Laboratory of the Government Chemist (1996)
London Buses (1994, bus companies sold individually) – see main article Privatisation of London bus services
National Engineering Laboratory (1995)
National Transcommunications Limited (1990)
Northern Ireland Electricity (1993)
Property Services Agency (1994)
Regional Electricity Companies
Eastern Electricity (1990)
East Midlands Electricity (1990)
London Electricity (1990)
MANWEB (1990)
Midlands Electricity (1990)
Northern Electric (1990)
NORWEB (1990)
SEEBOARD (1990)
Southern Electric (1990)
SWALEC (1990)
SWEB Energy (1990)
Yorkshire Electricity (1990)
Scottish Bus Group (1991, bus companies sold individually)
Scottish Hydro-Electric (1991)
Scottish Power (1991)
The Stationery Office (1996)
Transport Research Laboratory (1996)
Trust Ports (1992 – present, ports sold individually)
2000sActis (2004 – 60%)
British Nuclear Fuels Limited
AWE Management Limited (2008)
BNG America (2007)
BNG Project Services (2008)
Reactor Sites Management Company (2007)
Westinghouse Electric Company (2006)
National Air Traffic Services (2001 – 51%)
Partnerships UK (2000 – 51%)
Qinetiq (2002, 2006, 2008)
UKAEA Limited (2009)
[edit] 2010sHigh Speed 1 (2010)
Northern Rock (2012)
The Tote (2011)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_privatizations#1970s

1984 Johnson Matthey –
2001 Railtrack
2008 Northern Rock
2008 Bradford & Bingley (mortgage book only)
2008 the Royal Bank of Scotland, (partly nationalised)
2008 HBOS-Lloyds TSB (partly nationalised)
2009 East Coast Main Line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalization#United_Kingdom

Doesn’t take a genius to see that the UK has gone from nationalised socialist policies to privatised, market solutions. Even the bank buy outs in 2008 under a Labour government was done partially and with reluctance – echoing the similar US but outs under Bush. But still don’t let that stop your misconceptions. lol

Typical Brit…. Socialism HERE, is when the Government basically Controls everything… Basically Communism, WITHOUT the “Equality” of Nothingness TRUE Communism espoused. Note, there has NEVER been a Completely Communist nation, ever. Even Russia, and Red China, have never been Textbook Communist nations. The “gov types lived WELL ABOVE the “Citizen subjects”,.. thus not true Communism.

And. your “Dictionary” definition is cute, but doesn’t use the word, as it has come to be in modern parlance today, Sorry, “chap”!
Modern day England, is about as “socialized” as a nation can be! You have socialized Medicine, Retirement, etc etc.. PARLIAMENT tells you to JUMP, and you only ask.. HOW HIGH!! And, you’ve surrendered your RIGHT, to guns for self protection, and, your Government, now will prosecute YOU, for defending yourself!! YOU have no individual rights to self defense anymore…. that’s not how it is, in a FREE nation, is it?? A “god given” right over here…. You want to stay deluded.. knock yourself out.
But it REAL TERMS… I stand by my statements… and, as to what do I KNOW, about YOUR country?? One of my best friends, is a Former British “subject”, and Former British COP as well.. so i have GREAT INSIGHT into YOUR system….. by the way, My friend here, HAS his own Gun, and CCW permit as well… Something, a SOCIALIST Nation.. doesn’t issue to it’s SUBJECTS… like you! Have a nice, deluded day.. go back to sleep now…LOL!!
I have a Misconception?? OR you’re so blind, you don’t see what’s been done to you?? Think about it…. that’s why WE LAUGH, when YOU try to preach to us , on how we should do things etc… YOU are, what WE are trying.. TO AVOID becoming!! Get it NOW?? We’re fighting it.. you surrendered, and now HAVE IT. that makes you, a loser….. sorry once again. Looks as if, the sun HAS SET, on the “British Empire”…..

Slash and burn Hankster…. two thumbs up!

Hankster
they are escalating the rhetoric, you have made an unquestionable point, rendering the opponent
speechless,
can you believe the pension fund to pay for home mortgage loan, 25 billion to those who
past their mortgage payment,
what will happen to the pensioners? are they taking from
PETER later, to pay now to PAUL?

Hankster
hi,
what do you think of Santorum picking PAUL RYAN FOR HIS TEAM if he get the job

@Hankster

Bad luck old chap but I’ll think you’ll find Merriam-Webster is an American dictionary so that’s the definition used in the US. Unless went you meant over HERE as being in your household or in the warped reality and parlance of conservative wireless propagandists. But maybe you see dictionaries as cute and don’t tend to use them? So socialism is just like communism in that in controls everything but in reality it doesn’t. Sorry old boy but I’m afraid you’ll find that vague meaningless claptrap. Although I must say, you rather do seem to confuse left and right with authoritarianism and libertarianism. Look it up some time.

And modern day England (and don’t forget the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish whilst you’re at it) is about as socialized as a nation can be eh? So her Majesty government runs and controls British Airways, British Gas, British Telecom, British Petroleum etc do they? And is this England of yours therefore more ‘socialized’ than say China, Cuba or North Korea? Of course I thought us Brits with our stiff upper lips weren’t that good at socializing at parties etc. But may you confused socialize with socialism with your funny mangled version of the Queen’s English?

It’s true we have a universal health care system – which our current conservative led government is trying to partially privatize – like almost all western countries (I guess they’re all commies too eh?) and indeed you yankies have VHA & Military Health System – and what’s this Medicare & Medicaid– government health insurance?! Sounds like a pinko plot to me. Heaven forbid – I hope you don’t have a ‘socialized’ police force, armed services, firefighters, social security, libraries, road system, airport security, postal service as well!?

I also see you have social security, state schools and unemployment benefits, comrade…and unlike us Brits I see to become a citizen all you need is for your mother (illegal or not) to drop you on the right side of the border. Wow that is a socialist’s paradise there – equality for all – no matter where your parents are from – Lenin would be proud:D

Yes when Her Majesty’s parliament makes laws we tend to follow them – I believe you over there in the colonies do the same? Indeed didn’t you base your legal system largely on ours? Although I think you’ll find we don’t have a right enshrined in our constitution about gun rights – partly as we don’t have a written constitution and mainly because we don’t give a hoot about waving guns about down the high street as if it was the Wild West. All very vulgar.

And I think you’ll find that Englishmen and ladies are entitled to self defence by common law and the Criminal Law Act 1967. But why let facts get in the way.

I don’t think the British Empire was sank somehow by socialism. Rather it was economics dear boy. After fighting two world wars and running the empire on a shoestring – we simply didn’t have the cash to run the wretched thing. It’s a shame though because at its height of the Empire – all British subjects really had so much freedom – well beyond most all the males and all females not being able to vote, an inflexible class system, religious persecution and so on. I’m sure good old Rick Santorum will bring lots of individual freedom to the US – unless you happen to be a woman or gay or generally fall outside what he considers to be accepted norm. Is that socialized conservatism? What, what:D

I guess if you base your ideas on jolly old England by some bloke over there who was an ex-subject of her majesty then it’s no wonder you are confused. Or maybe you see snippets in the media (possibly through our disreputable rag The Daily Mail) about exceptional cases and exaggerate that somehow believe that is the norm. We have dumb Brits like that over here that think the US is just Dallas wear you all wear 6 Gallon cowboy hats or the US is where everyone gets shot because some Yankie said so. Maybe you think Downton Abbey is a current affairs documentary? Lol It sounds like you have never been to England – where the streets are cobbled, and we all wear Bowler hats and cor blimey the London fog is a real pea souper. I suspect that’s explains your ignorance and dull cliches. Tally ho!

You confuse “socialized” with “public service”.. as most deluded leftist types do…. enjoy your utopia then. Question is, why do you bother then, with us??? LOL.. BORED ?

You know where you expose yourself?? When YOU say, you are DE_SOCIALIZING.. via the Government, PRIVATIZING itself…. Lets see… didn’t YOU SAY…

“Doesn’t take a genius to see that the UK has gone from nationalized socialist policies to privatized, market solutions. “???

Let me ask YOU then, genius…. didn’t you fight, in the LAST WW…. AGAINST the “Nationalist Socialist Workers Party?? then why did you allow yourselves, to BECOME that way?? OOPS!!

@ bees… that could be an interesting mix.