The following video offers a bit more context than the video clip that’s gone viral:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Uj1cV97XQ[/youtube]
At least in this clip you can see a bit of what was going on prior to the police using oc sprays to try and disperse the students.
So what other alternative recourse should the UC police have taken? The students were certainly given fair warning.
Charles J. Kelly, a former Baltimore Police Department lieutenant who wrote the department’s use of force guidelines, said pepper spray is a “compliance tool” that can be used on subjects who do not resist, and is preferable to simply lifting protesters.
“When you start picking up human bodies, you risk hurting them,” Kelly said. “Bodies don’t have handles on them.”
After reviewing the video, Kelly said he observed at least two cases of “active resistance” from protesters. In one instance, a woman pulls her arm back from an officer. In the second instance, a protester curls into a ball. Each of those actions could have warranted more force, including baton strikes and pressure-point techniques.
“What I’m looking at is fairly standard police procedure,” Kelly said.
What I find to be ridiculous is any comparison of “brave” students and supporters of the Occupy movements to brave protesters of the so-called “Arab Spring” uprisings; and also to how those in authority deal with the protests. I bet Syrians and Iranians would have much preferred OC sprays to what they’ve been experiencing at the hands of their government’s police and military.
Did the students have a more preferable means of being forcefully removed than what they experienced?
A former fetus, the “wordsmith from nantucket” was born in Phoenix, Arizona in 1968. Adopted at birth, wordsmith grew up a military brat. He achieved his B.A. in English from the University of California, Los Angeles (graduating in the top 97% of his class), where he also competed rings for the UCLA mens gymnastics team. The events of 9/11 woke him from his political slumber and malaise. Currently a personal trainer and gymnastics coach.
The wordsmith has never been to Nantucket.
Ya gotta love the chancellor.
She orders the campus police to remove the protestors, then calls it ‘chilling’ when they do.
I’m sure the police are glad she has their backs…
It seems like the 2 sides expect too much of each other.
The squatters expect the liberal chancellor to let them conduct their fake protest with complete free reign,
and
she expects them to understand when she makes a fake stand of keeping good order and discipline.
Sounds like they’re made for each other.
BTW, who else remembers when the elderly ladies were out front protesting/praying to allow Elian Gonzales to stay in the USA when Janet Reno ordered them to ALL be pepper sprayed?
You know I was at a tea party event earlier in the year. We were standing on the sidewalk near a park we had “occupied” (All permits, were firmly in our hands) and A COP had the nerve to ask us to not move into the street because we might cause an accident or get ran over… We said okay officer and moved closer to the park… NONE of us got sprayed. WTF? did we handle it wrong? I guess we should have locked arms, cried about police brutality and had a video crew to film those fascist cops abusing us… Damn it I hate it when I learn lessons late in life…
Seriously, If I ever meet that cop who sprayed their ass I’ll buy him a beer/coffee and a donut. Well done officer. I’ve already emailed the guy but I’m betting he’s sending everything to the trash.
So do you think if the TP’ers decided to “occupy”, “infest” and “resist” with property damage and OWS type violence against the police, we could get Obama to step down? Ain’t he for that kind of “change”?
sigh… wishful thinking. Despite his advice to other leaders, he won’t be going that quietly.
Of course 0-bama and Pelosi think the Tea Party Patriots and the OWS idiots are the same. Then again he thinks lying about shovel ready is just a big joke also.
The campus police need to call a work stoppage, union style and let the students run rampant on the campus.
One of the people beaten by police at Berkeley this past Friday was 70-year-old Robert Hass, former Poet Laureate of the United States.
GREG
what was he doing there, when police order to move they better move
next time he wont be so lucky
John Nolte over at Big Journalism notes a trend:
Obama and Nancy Pelosi are way out on a limb and have been caught in bed encouraging, endorsing, and attempting to legitimize a wildly unpopular movement most voters now find repulsive.
So what’s a shameless left-wing media to do?
What they always do. Rewrite history.
And it looks as thought the Associated Press has decided to start the memory-holing with the following:
__________________
Democrats See Minefield in Occupy Protests
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When the AP matter-of-factly (the most effective way to propagandize) states that this natural alliance “hasn’t happened” … they are lying.
The alliance between Occupy and prominent Democrats occurred weeks ago and as one honest Democrat, Doug Schoen, put it just today:
If the slow motion implosion of Occupy has taught us anything it’s that the MSM doesn’t have the power it once had to control the narrative.
New Media won this one and maybe New Media can can also win the battle of reminding voters of just who it was who ran out to endorse, encourage, and attempt to legitimize vandals, poopers, rapists, and public masturbators.
You know, Greg, your blind support for anarchy is really tiresome. First of all, who gives a flying fart whether a “poet”, appointed by Clinton as the token talent to the WH for sporatic readings for a couple of years, inserts himself into mob rule, along with his self-described “activist antiwar wife”.
Then, as substantiated proof, you link to his own account where he describes the illegal squatters as “rosy cheeked” cherub types, and the police as “a phalanx out of the Trojan War”
Poetic license by a has been much?
His own account seems to say that his wife was merely “talking” to the police when they shoved her. Somehow, I suspect that an old pro antiwar activist was doing more than talking, and may have been inserting herself inbetween the police, attempting to do her job, and the illegal squatters.
I’ve asked you this many times, and I get no cogent answer except there must be a “balance”. Greg, those squatters, the source of disease, fecal matter and crime waves, as documented elsewhere where infestants gather illegally, were told to move their illegal tent domains long as 12 days ago by both the Chancellor and the police.
They have not done so.
Just what do you expect police to do with infestants refuse to obey laws and do exercise their 1st Amendment rights within the laws and reasonable boundaries, as other protesters have done? It’s over a week later, and they show no signs of moving, and indeed fight back when the police try to dismantle their illegal “city”.
Hey. It’s Berkeley. As far as I’m concerned you can fumigate the place or nuke it IMHO. Hass? Typical Berkley privileged child of Marin County who’s never left the SF/Berkley area and ventured outside in the real world. If he and his wife wish to partake, along with the illegal squatters, then he gets what he deserves. He should have been an adult, and taught the whiners how to effectively protest within our laws, as was done with the TPers and the Civil Rights movements.
So Greg… again, what do you want the police to do with illegal squatters who refuse to obey the laws? Or is anarchy your chosen answer?
Why was the Chancellor of the school telling police to remove students form their campus. My understanding is that they were there to remove tents, which they did without any violent confrontation.
What else could they have done? they could have walked away. I saw no one preventing any police from doing anything.
“Chemical agents are weapons used to minimize the potential for injury to officers, offenders, or other persons. They should only be used in situations where such force reasonably appears justified and necessary.”
The students were initially protesting a 40% increase in tuition. Somehow I think the tea party would be doing the same thing if their state taxes went up by that much, and you would possibly be howling in outrage demanding that people take it to the streets and protest and then denouncing Obama’s jackbooted troops for pepper spraying them.
The officer did them a favor;
Pepper Spray kills body lice, lowers libido and remedies Body Odor.
“Dang, I didn’t know that!”
They did not remove their tents “peacefully”, and continued to re’pitch them, Tony Duncan. Ample pictures here to show your “news” source is apparently not too accurate.
They don’t remove students from a campus. That’s what a campus is for… duh. They remove illegal squatter tents from a campus. None of which the protesters would do, and apparently were regularly increasing the size of the tent city.
Tony Duncan
they where choosing to blend in with the OWL to protest for their own problems,
that is what all who occupy the public area does,
they protest all for a multiple issue personal to each of them,
you see also foreigners protesting for their personal issue,
now there is many POLICE OFFICERS IN HOSPITAL WITH DIFFERENT HURT BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS,
they must protect themselves first if you want them to protect you in need of them,
so that PEPPER SPRAY IS MINOR AND HELP THEM TO REMOVE YOU AGAINST YOUR WILL, AFTER THEY TOLD YOU TO MOVE, A LONG TIME BEFORE THEY DECIDE TO USE THAT MINIMAL ACTION, THAT IS IN FACT PROTECTING YOU BY DOING IT OR ELSE , OR WOULD YOU PREFER ELSE?
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone, #6:
He works there. He’s been a faculty member and Professor of English at Berkeley for over 20 years. It might be argued that he and the students have more business being there than the police do.
MataHarley,
I was going to comment by saying that the particular issue we are talking about was the seated protestors who were not putting up tents or preventing police from taking them down. THAT is what has generated all the outrage . Then I reread your link and noticed that it was in Berkeley. that is a different place than UC Davis. If you want to discuss the Berkeley situation I am happy to, but I wonder why you are directing your comment to me, when it has nothing to do with anything I was writing about.
Ilovebeeswarzone. I really have no clue how to respond to what you wrote.
@MataHarley, #9:
Such assertive intolerance pretty much sums up the fundamental problem with a lot of American conservatives.
Two UC Davis police officers and the campus police Chief Annette Spicuzza were placed on administrative leave.
But UC President Mark G. Yudof said it was not his intention to “micromanage our campus police forces,” but he said all 10 chancellors would convene soon for a discussion “about how to ensure proportional law enforcement response to non-violent protest.”
UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi said she has set a 30-day deadline for her school’s task force investigating the incident to issue its report.
Nine students hit by pepper spray were treated at the scene, two were taken to hospitals and later released, university officials said. Ten people were arrested.
Info from:
MSNBC
Now, my question.
IF protestors are blocking public ingress and egress what techniques are available to police to clear those walkways?
The report will hopefully answer that question.
Law enforcement and our military have the most thankless jobs on the planet. Shame on those that take for granted those that stand on the wall for them while they sleep peacefully in their beds at night. Everyone wants to tell them how to do their job but only a few man/woman up to join them.
Mata, like I have said before greg is a marxist propagandist. He figures if he lies long enough less informed people will fall for his BS.
What the police did was SOP for people who refused to comply.
@Hard Right:
Hard right. Apparently the use of pepper spray is only to be used in self defense or to subdue violent persons and some other situations that do not apply to this situation. UC has very specific guidelines. the students were clearly NOT blocking entrance or exit from the area since the police officer stepped over the protestors to pepper spray them. these were students on their campus protesting non violently. As i said the tents had been removed, what was the reason for further police action. If you watch one of the longer videos you see that the police slowly were moved back out of the quad by the chanting protestors. I have read of no violence or threats to public safety that occurred after the police left.
GREG
SO why would the POLICE be there?
they surely has been called to be there , so why pick on them which are responding
to another leader to clear the place,
they are just doing their jobs, and since those OWL are there, they are working too many hours and pushed to their limits, so if they tell anyone to move, they better move it,
that is all there is,
they are representing the law. and the other citizens,
Tony Duncan
I must correct you,
the POLICE BACKED UP NOT BY THE ADVANCING CROWD,
they decide to back up by their own initiatives,
no one back up the POLICE on any mission they are on, except their own command to back up.
the protesters are not above the law, and should listen to the POLICE’S ORDERS AS ANY OTHER CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY MUST DO,
I GUESS YOU HAVE A CLUE NOW OF WHAT I’M TELLING YOU.
AND JUST PASS THE WORD AROUND TO THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE A CLUE EITHER
Freedom of speech is in the constitution. Police can carry people away, doing it properly DOES not cause injury. To justify pepper spray which can be fatal to asthmatics for example is pure sadism. I’m not against cops but such Nazi tactics deserve an equal payback. And all you right wing nut jobs who support such shit should get a baseball bat up side your frickin head.
Ron PEAVINE
so easy for you to say it, but if the police ask you to move, you are to move,
there is no alternative,
you cannot move a bunch of people holding each other and laying on the ground, refusing to comply to
LAW OFFICERS, THEY ARE BEING PUSH TO THEIR LIMITS WITH Y’ALL
and if you don’t have enough sense to put yourself in their boots,
then you deserve more than the spray because you’re breaking the law and are very close to become a FELLON for your future quest to find a job.
so the LAW OFFICERS WHERE TRYING TO CONVEY THAT MESSAGES TO YOU ALL, BY SHAKING THAT CAN FOR A LONG TIME ENOUGH TO PUT SOME BRAIN IN YOU ALL.
do you think they’re having fun following orders to clear the area,
many of them have been assaulted by some of you all over the COUNTRY, and they are in hospitals with scars that will stay there for life, THEY HAVE FAMILY AND SONS AND DAUGHTERS TOO.
so don’t give us that kind of excuse, you are AMERICANS and you have a future to preserve that should be a respectful citizen which abide by the laws of AMERICA,
that is what you are suppose to learn in your school, so don’t do anything to spoil it,
we have a post just for the FELONS TO EXPRESS THEIR ANXIETY, right here at FLOPPING ACES,
CHECK IT UP, AND THINK
THEY ARE NOT HAPPY AMERICANS, AND WORK HARD TO GET A JOB WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING EASY
OR NOT AT ALL.
@Greg: Greg, I’m probably wasting my time with you… your Progressive brain cells will probably shed my logic like water off of a duck. But I have to try. I’m a retired police officer and also spent 12 years teaching use-of-force (firearms, baton & pepper spray included) at our Regional Police Academy. I will tell you, use of force is a complicated issue, but it’s also a police officer’s duty to enforce the law, and it’s real hard to do it without “use of force”. So the issue here is not whether force was used (the mere presence of an officer is “force” and verbal commands are usually the next level on the force continuum) the question is always justification of force. Even in training exercises, I’ve been struck by batons, had pressure point and joint restraint holds used on me, and NOBODY gets to be a pepper-spray instructor without being sprayed a couple of dozen times. I prefer pepper spray. FYI – it’s non-toxic. The protestors were at that location and they were violating the law. Fact: when you voluntarily put yourself in a confrontational situation (especially a borderline riot) then you shouldn’t be surprised when you get a reaction. Maybe you should go find an Occupy protest and sit down in the middle of it and see for yourself how quick it can change from “fun” to terrifying (and deadly) in a blink of the eye. Put your money where your mouth is.
DQCOWBOY
thank you for your hard work,
they don’t know yet but maybe someday they will see how important a law officer is
when he is the only one they can trust to save them.
@Tony Duncan:
Then why are they THERE and not at the house of the Chancellor and the homes of the Trustees?
I was in Iceland last week and I saw a tee shirt in a gift shop. It had an image of a whale tail on the front and under it were the words:
KILL THEM ALL
Icelanders have quite the sense of humor.
@DQcowboy:
DQ Cowboy,
I agree with much of what you wrote, and I have a great appreciation for the role of police in maintaining order. However because of the license for violence that Police can utilize, they are required to top follow very specific rules. As I posted above, those rules, on a UC campus, do not include using pepper spray in that situation. You state that the protesters were violating the law. What law were they violating? As I stated above they were not impeding the movement of police. The police had accomplished the purpose for which they had been sent (removing the tents), and there were no incidents on any of the videos that showed any threats of violence to the police. This was the case even AFTER they had pepper sprayed the unresisting protesters, which action had clearly angered and escalated the situation. I am frankly impressed with the restraint of the crowd considering they had just witnessed an unprovoked attack on peaceful protestors by police in full riot gear. I sympathize with the police who were sent into a situation that they are likely unfamiliar with, but these are not criminals, they are protesters and are guaranteed the right be be treated as American citizens.
@DQcowboy, #25:
I think most people who see the videos in question understand that there’s something wrong with what they’re seeing. My guess is that a lot of law enforcement personnel who watch the videos might have the same reaction.
I feel a certain sympathy for police who are put in such a situation by someone else’s bad decision. Note the cop with the pepper spray in this video, and the girl on the extreme right in the hooded sweatshirt. She’s probably scared, and he can’t bring himself to spray her. Neither can his buddy. For all I know, they don’t really want to be spraying any of them. I mean, what have we actually got here? Kids, sitting on a sidewalk on their own college campus, and some college administrator who can’t deal with defiance and then won’t take responsibility for what happened when she couldn’t deal with it.
The best reaction? They’re students. It’s Friday. Let them sit on the sidewalk and make their point. They’ll leave on their own.
Tony Duncan,
Thank you for your reply. I would like to make several points.
#1. If the U/C Rules do prohibit use of Pepper Spray, then they shouldn’t have used it.
#2. However, it seems odd that the Campus Police administration wouldn’t have heard about that “RULE”, which by-the-way, isn’t a law (we called them General Orders, and most Police Agencies have whole ring binders of them). If the officers used the pepper spray (improperly) then they were in violation of a general order, not a law. Someone gets a day off to go fishing.
#3. I noticed in the pictures of the “confrontation” that the officers were were using “whopper” pepper spray canisters (32 oz), which are not something the officers would have as personal equipment, they are usually kept in the equipment locker, and issued only in special cases, by supervisors.
#4. So, I’m sure the Police administration knew that Pepper spray had been issued and I’m pretty sure that there was some “brass” (at least a Deputy Chief) present, since this was a major incident. I know a lot about incidents like this and I know that nobody below Captain or Dep/Chief makes the decision to use tactical force.
#5. These supervisors are not the type of police officers that generally openly violate a “rule” in front of cameras. They like their gold badges and carpeted offices and make a career out of NOT losing their jobs. CYA
#6. I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m assuming that the chancellor wouldn’t have ordered the Campus police to remove the protestors, unless she got together with the Top Cops and determined that the protestors were doing something that justified that.
#7. Doing it any other way is just plain stupid (and a career killer). I’ve been there as a Police Chief and a SWAT Team leader, and some Civil Authority ALWAYS gives the GO-AHEAD (except in an imminent emergency), usually a Mayor, etc, advised by a district or city attorney, or judge.
#8. If the protestors are in an area that they have been legally ordered out of, and the refused to leave and/or physically resisted the police (sitting down in a group qualifies) then they are no longer non-violent protestors, they are criminals (trespass, riot, etc), and the Penal code allows Police to use the force required to deal with the problem. HERE-IN COMES THE CATCH, the POLICE must decide how to enforce the law (move the protestors) without looking like THUGS.
#9. MY guess is that UC police chief thought that POLICE SWINGING BATONS would look worse on TV cameras than spraying some pepper spray. It was a judgement call, and a no-win.
RE… YOUR statement: unprovoked attack on peaceful protestors by police in full riot gear
{ unprovoked attack} – NO, pretty much a lawful police action, until we know otherwise.
{ peaceful protestors} – I wasn’t there, but I think that they violated the law = criminals}
{in full riot gear} – when should they put on their RIOT GEAR? when the rocks & bottles started flying!
#10. MHO – If anyone is to blame for a n y t h i n g, that would be the Chancellor, first and most. Will be interesting to see how it evolves!
-DQcowboy (past my bedtime)
@Ron Peavine:
OK, Pea Vine… Just how does one “carry people away, doing it properly(?) DOES not cause injury..” when the lifeless lumps lock arms together (making a bigger lifeless lump)? Is there some imagined uninjurable handle they should be made aware of? Have you ever been charged with removing a lifeless or lifeless-acting mass of dead weight?
Might I suggest it is ignorant, at best, for some ‘occutard’ with a medical affliction to become involved in something that would probably prove hazardous to that condition, or for that matter should they be there in the first place? Implying that police officers who HAVE TO DEAL WITH these idiots are using “NAZI tactics, and deserve equal payback” betrays your motivation.
May I further suggest; ALL you LEFT-wing nut jobs who misplace the source of “such shit” (Occutards, Liberal Marxists and Unions) should get a baseball bat up side your frickin head!
Try walking a mile in their shoes before you condemn them, Pea-Head! (No forget that; YOUR KIND wouldn’t have the spine)
You know, Greg, one other police chief had that same thought.
It was cold and the Occupiers” were occupying a Wisconsin bridge.
He did NOT arrest them.
His words were something like, ‘Let them sit there and freeze their butts off.’ (Look up Chief Ed Flynn for the exact wording.)
What is happening in UC Davis is very similar.
The number of arrests and thefts and assaults and rapes and deaths have added up to the point where they have ruined the ”narrative,” that the Occupiers wanted to get across in order to aid Obama and his agenda.
They have been trying their darndest to get back on a valued liberal message.
What better liberal message than ‘I am a victim.’
This was an engineered event designed to cause escalation until someone got arrested one way or another.
It was designed to create victims.
Don’t forget that the police are unionized and for the most part sympathetic to the occupiers.
They only did what they felt they had to do (considering that the head of UC Davis insisted they resolve the issue.)
Sure, it was a Catch-22.
It was also Kabuki Theater.
A mime.
An act.
I was really glad this thread opened with video that gave some context to the whole thing.
Many so-called police violence videos end up being proven to only be one part of the story…..one small part.
We, here in LB, just had a police shooting death cleared after over a year of investigation.
I know eyewitnesses and friends of the late Doug Zerby.
Talk about different views of the same occurrence!
Wow!
There’s going to be a 30 day investigation at UC Davis.
I hope it will be enough and be fair.
RudeCrudeAndSociallyUnacceptable
I could have not said it better
bye
DQcowboy
goodnight, and come back soon
@ilovebeeswarzone: Thanks Bees; [ I speak from experience, and] I can tell you most of these characters who condemn law enforcement officers have NO IDEA how hard it is to restrain their instincts. Pepper Spray was much easier to heal from than a three-foot baton…
What a pack of children! What were the police supposed to do?
Send them to their rooms?
They were directed to leave. They obstructed the sidewalks, laughing and having a grand old time, while getting their pictures taken.
They egged on thevpolice, thumbed their noses at the chancellor and are surprised at the consequences.
I am really surprised they protesting tuition hikes for College – I thought CA was the “Land of the Freebies” College not included with all the freebies??? Or are they mad they actually have to pay for something??
I’ve read some CA Colleges are about $90.00 a credit…
Greg has every right to his opinion. I don’t agree with him, but i still want to read his analysis and point of view.
If they were protesting an increase in tuition, they were protesting in the wrong place. Not sure how much they pay in CA, but they might want to compare their tuition with that of other states.
The fact is that CA is broke and expenses are going up everywhere. I have a job, but have been furloughed (5 percent loss) for two years now, with a third year of furloughs expected. We have not had any raises in four years.
These kids complain, but they have clean water, safe drinking water, were vaccinated, have access to hospitals, grocery stores and boutiques.
They have their iPads, cell phones and trendy clothes. None look like they are starving. Get a grip. My daughter spent a year in Dijuboti, my niece spent three years in Mongolia, my nephew took a year off from med school to work in a clinic in gautemala. They can all tell about hardships. Sorry, I can’t get sympathetic about a little pepper spray.
RudeCrudeAndUnacceptable
yes , or a foot in the behind
bye
@Helene: Great comment, Helene.
It made me think about what it is these ”occupiers” really want.
Obama used the phrase: “spread the wealth around.”
They want ”the rich” to be less rich so they can have more.
BUT I wonder if the trade off is worth it?
For instance:
Thomas Edison invented the incandescent bulb and became very rich from it (and his other inventions).
Thomas Watson founded IBM and became very rich making computers.
Lloyd Conover got rich when he was working for Pfizer and invented the antibiotic, Tetracycline.
IF we had equalized their cash when they were in the throes of their inventive phase, we would have none of that!
How much have we benefited from electric light?
From computers?
From Tetracycline?
There is no measurement for how much those things have improved all of our lives.
YET, had the seed money for each invention been equalized away, none of these would have ever happened.
Helene
hi,
that is so nice for your children to give of their life for those who most need it,
they surely learn that compassion from you,
they must have learned so much more than the ones in the park doing nothing
worth to talk about
bye
Check out Smile Train, a charity started in the US by a dentist to repair cleft palates in children or WorldVision where you can buy a well, geese, chickens or seed for some of our neediest people.
These charities are helping to spread the wealth.
FAITH
hi,
I think OBAMA should feel ashamed to be the one to incite the young to occupy and cause trouble to other citizens and busyness around this AMERICA,
HE TARGET THE YOUTH WHICH ARE EASY TO INFLUENCE, AND GET THEM ALL IN TROUBLE, AND FOR MANY OF THEM TO END UP WITH A BAD REFERENCE ON THEIR PROFILE FOR FINDING A JOB;
IF IT IS WHAT HE HAS IN MIND TO SINK THE AMERICAN YOUTH AS WE CAN BE MADE TO BELIEVE LOOKING AT HIS ACTIONS,
THAT WOULD BE THE WORSE THING A LEADER WOULD DO TO A NATION WHICH HAS VOTED FOR HIM TO BE A COPY THEY WANT SO MUCH TO FOLLOW.
EXACTLY LIKE THE HITLER YOUTH WHERE MADE TO BELIEVE HIM AS A GOD.
THE PATTERN IS THE SAME
“The best reaction? They’re students. It’s Friday. Let them sit on the sidewalk and make their point. They’ll leave on their own”~Greg~
Greg, you may have a point there. However, the point should be directed to the Chancellor. She made the call to have them removed. She asked the police to enforce that call. I’m sure those officers would rather be anywhere but on a college campus dealing with people that have nothing better to do with their time than occupy a side walk. Citizens are forever blaming our military and law enforcement for carrying out the policy of those the citizens have elected to do their will.
@Greg: Really, and why was he there?? Then again he probably wants all these idiots to remain in school so he can continue to get a free ride on the backs of California tax payers.
There ya go with your blanket BS again, Greg. You may form your opinion as it pertains to me, and to me only. Of course, unlike you, I’ve had the privilege of living in the Bay area, and teaching in the Berkley/Emeryville area. So my opinion as to the quality of “students” of life there as being pretty low is based on first hand exposure. So what’s your glorious opinion of them based on? That they hate cops?
You’re right, Tony. I had several browser windows up and copied the wrong link in the cut/paste endeavor.
What I meant to link to was this link with photos and the letter from the Chancellor. The police took down the tents, not the infestants. And the reason the campus police were called was because only a few of the infestants removed their tents.
Below the letter from the campus chancellor, documenting that the infestants were not cooperative, after repeated requests they do so.
Let me ask you this, Tony… does the guy in the below photo look like a student taking down the tent?
After refusing to remove the entire tent city, they then “occupied” the walkway.
I’m going to ask you again. When you have a mob who refuses to obey the simplest rules our society follow, in infringes on the rights of all the rest… repeatedly… just what do you want the police to do? (campus or otherwise) They authorities have been removing these illegal tents on the campus since Nov 9th, fer heavens sake. Do you think this started 24 hours before?
Personally, I have no problems with what the campus cop did. Just too bad the infestants didn’t slither away like the human reptiles they are after being sprayed. But after over a month of avoiding my own downtown because of the great unwashed infestants, I’m more than tired that they are given a pass on permits, laws and basic human courtesy to the rest of us.
@Greg: Wow, and the problem with Kool Aid drunk idiots like you is that you have NO clue what the word conseravtism even means. Try working and paying taxes. BTW the taxes your paying is being wasted by your boy 0-bama.
A professor has more business being there than campus police???
@Hard Right, INRE Greg… still waiting for his solutions to anarchy. So far, he’s still on the side of anarchy, and screw the rest of the population as far as I can see. He has a warped view of the 1st Amendment….
They’re just there to provoke – and then demonize the cops. It is sickening and predictable. And their juvenile chanting gives me a headache.