Yes, it’s reckless of him to do it, but still, it seems if they didn’t have a Terry Jones they would have to make up something, ie. cartoons, to get their panties twisted in a knot. Burning the Koran is bad but killing innocent human beings is good…What kind of thought process is this?
Friday’s incident began when three mullahs, addressing worshippers at Friday prayers inside the Blue Mosque here, one of Afghanistan’s holiest places, urged people to take to the streets to agitate for the arrest of Terry Jones, the Florida pastor who oversaw the burning of a Koran on March 20. Otherwise, said the most prominent of them, Mullah Mohammed Shah Adeli, Afghanistan should cut off relations with the United States. “Burning the Koran is an insult to Islam and those who committed it should be punished,” he said.
The crowd — some carrying signs reading “Down with America” and “Death to Obama” — poured into the streets and swelled — the governor of Balkh Province, Atta Mohammad Noor, later put the number at 20,000…
The mob also burned down part of the United Nations compound, toppled guard towers and heaved blocks of cement down from the walls. The victims were killed by weapons that the demonstrators had wrestled away from the United Nations guards, according to Mr. Noor…
A prominent Afghan cleric, Mullah Qyamudin Kashaf, acting head of the Ulema Council of Afghanistan (and a Karzai appointee), also called for American authorities to arrest and try Mr. Jones for the Koran burning.
The Ulema Council recently met to discuss the Koran burning, he said in a telephone interview. “We expressed our deep concerns about this act and we were expecting the violence that we are witnessing now,” Mullah Kashaf said. “Unless they try him and give him the highest possible punishment, we will witness violence and protests not only in Afghanistan but in the entire world.”
The governor of the town blamed the Taliban:
The governor of Balkh province said insurgents had used the march as cover to attack the compound, in a battle that raged for several hours and raises serious questions about plans to make the city a pilot for security transfer to national forces.
“The insurgents have taken advantage of the situation to attack the U.N. compound,” said Governor Ata Mohammad Noor.
But as Allah notes, this doesn’t jive with the report that the compound was overrun by a huge crowd and that they were killed with their own weapons. I’m thinking the Taliban would of brought their own. Overrunning a compound and wresting away the weapons is a sign of a violent riot….not a coordinated attack.
Jones is a moron but no one should defend these fanatics by blaming him. I have a feeling our MSM will do just that tho…as they have done in the past. It is shear lunacy to be held hostage by the followers of Islam. We can burn our flag, a bible, and pretty much anything else but if someone burns a Koran we should shake in fear.
THAT is terrorism and we shouldn’t cave to it.
The killers are responsible for these murders and THEY should be brought trial, not Terry Jones.
Exit quote from the Taliban English language website: (h/t The Jawa Report)
Though the American rulers say, the burning of the Holy Quran falls under the category of freedom of speech but the question arises if a Muslim reacts to the bestial step of Terry Jones in a self-same manner, then would the American rulers and media tolerate it under the rules of the freedom of speech and would they remain silent? Or rather that the Americans including the rulers, politicians, religious followers and media of the West will simultaneously, run a mock and refer the case to the Security Council and the United Nations?
You gotta be kidding me.
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This year is the first time in about 10 years that the Arab bloc of the UN has NOT tried to establish worldwide anti-blasphemy laws.
Odd.
IF they had managed to get their monstrosity passed it would mean the whole world would be liable to Sharia.
If anyone expressed even an opinion that Muslims didn’t like charges of slander of Mohammad or of Islam could be brought.
Free speech would be chilled into non-existence.
The mere fact that the Taliban would behead some and murder (in other ways) the others over this act that took place thousands of miles away just proves they are not open to either reason or law.
Remember, we cannot paint ourselves into a small enough corner to please Islam.
Osama bin Laden was STILL holding a grudge about losing Spain from Islam 1000 years ago when he set up the 9-11 attacks.
Curt, was this the same SEIU crowd that was in WI a few weeks ago? Seems like the attitudes are very similar.
Randy, now that you mention it, right, exactly like the WISCONSIN CROWD,
SAME OPEN MOUTH, SAME WIDE BLOODY EYES, WHOES COPYING ON THE OTHER.
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: Bees, insanity isn’t restricted to radical Islam!
@Randy, #2:
Actually the crowd up above represents Afghanistan’s conservative element. They’re fervent supporters of their local traditional values–such as they are.
GREG THAT IS NOT THE CONSERVATIVES WE KNOW HERE, THOSE OF AFGHANISTAN ARE FAR FROM THE WORD CONSERVATIVES,
I don’t know what those guys eat but they ingnite like if they have a fuse in the…
in some open area of their body,
Curt, why don’t we find some friendly Obama grant program, get Jones and his group a ticket to Kabul and let them do their little Koran burning ritual over there? I’d say only a one way ticket is necessary for the charter group….
@Greg, you too have joined the “ass” category…. Uncalled for commentary, highly “intolerant” and unPC, and if an attempt at humor, again… stick to your day job and don’t try for any amateur nights at the comedy clubs.
UPDATE:
But I will concede that Randy egged you on with that comment INRE the union thugs/mobs. So I officially recant. You’ve escaped the “ass” class this time.
And much as I despise the unions, socialists, etc, I’d stop short of comparing them with fundamentalists and Islamic jihad groups.
“Jones is a moron but no one should defend these fanatics by blaming him.”
Nor should anyone be using the word “blame” as though this wasn’t the obvious, desired outcome that’s somehow in question as to who is responsible. We don’t “blame” bank robbers for banks getting robbed as though responsibility needs assigning or is some mystery.
Unless this is a 2nd Jones, everyone was already aware what reaction this would get. We even heard from the head of the armed forces that one predictable outcome is that US troops will also be targeted. So when a couple get snatched, strung up and mutilated, you can offer the same rationale. What you don’t get to do though is act surprised.
What is needed is a “Koran desecration news randomizer”, that will take ordinary news stories from around the world and make them into Koran desecration stories, before reposting them to one of a thousand popular Internet forums.
So say, a story about Hillary Clinton giving a speech to the UN Human Rights Council, will be reposted as “Hillary Clinton burning a Koran in front of the UN Human Rights Council”.
The idea is to overwhelm the agitators with so many bogus news stories that they riot over stories like “Chris Matthews puts pages of the Koran on his bacon and peanut butter sandwiches for lunch”, that end up making the agitators look like fools.
yes APRIL FOOLS
In an odd way, we have the same fanatical fools who want to drive God out of the USA and establish aethism as the law of the land here. They turn everything that was good about America into something to be condemned and apologized for to the rest of the socialist world.
Gay lifestyle and act was for centuries viewed as gravely disordered and serious sin. Suddenly in the last 30 years or so queer has become gay and gay is being pushed on our entire society as normal and equal to the relationship of man and woman. Now we see it being force fed into the military in a time of war with our soldiers under maximum stress. We see a direct attack on the chaplins serving our military that they need to watch what they say about gays or they could lose their job. The hate police in some countries are on the attack to punish anyone who disagrees with this queer act being normal and even worthy of special rights. Your freedom of speech and freedom of religion have to be sacrificed on the altar of gay rights which is not even in the constitution. We do not give rights to behaviour choices. We also as a people have been on the march since the fall of man to overcome the weakness each of us has but suddenly, this weakness is seperated and given special status. There is no hesitency to attack the behaviour choice of a glutton who is fat and coming under the eye of the first lady. Greed is attacked with every turn of the liberal screw unless the rich person agrees that their earned income should be attached and given to someone else. But if we are not a country under God or paying attention to what God taught about the gay lifestyle in virtually every religion of the past 2000 plus years, then why is there a standard to take from the rich and give to the poor? By what basis is this decision made and who decides who is rich and poor and the amount to take. Well, the answer is that it is not a moral choice at all, but one set up by the god big government who needs the cash to retain power. By what right does this big government decide that healthcare is a right when it is clearly not in the constitution and also by what right do they have to tell us to purchase any product or service? Is it a moral right given to them by God? And why would God bestow on a party of slavery up to and including a war to protect it, lynching and torture after the war, denial of civil rights in every way possible, and now the party of abortion. Why would we as a people determine we should listen to anything this evil party has to say when they have been on the wrong side of every moral issue in the history of our country? Even in the area they claim gives them the halo, social justice, their big government programs of welfare have destroyed the fabric of the poor by destroying families. They have condemned the poor to schools which have failed them for decades refusing to allow competition in any way. Abortion clinics are clearly focused and serving the black community far in escess of the black population as a whole. With friends like this, who needs enemies.
So I am far more concerned about the democratic party than the taliban because every society has crumbled from within and the democratic party has been at it for over 200 years. Imagine if another country had a party with the same record over 200 years as the democrats and we were watching from outside and judging on results of their policy and belief system. Many were appaled at the Nazi party which existed for less than 2 decades and during that time killed millions. But if we add up slavery, civil war to protect slavery, lynching and torture of blacks systematically for generations, and now abortion, which party has had the most negative impact on moral issues. Abortion alone has killed over 50 million babies in the womb, the place where God thought new creation would be the safest in its most vulnerable state. Why did the party so fresh from the loss of the civil rights battle move in less than a decade to the abortion issue and why the focus on black families? Name any program the democrats have which has brought great things to black families in the last 200 years and how does than compare to the total history. Why do we even allow this party to exist in a country which is said to be One Nation Under God and a country that places In God We Trust on our currency and a country where all our rights come from God, not government? I have never been able to have anyone explain this to me in any way that makes sense.
So yes, the taliban and Islamist are evil, but they need to get in line.
I do believe, that as a symbol of atonement we deliver some Korans to the Mosque, I’m thinking via some Hellfires. It’d be appropriate and only fair to help them achieve the path to their 72 raisins.
Greta, very well said, thank you, hopefully this will get better in 2012 election,
with the new CONSERVATIVES being elected to get rid of those who don’t care about real values,
and giving hope for a better AMERICA returning to the people where it belong, it makes me think
of that song…GOD BLESS AMERICA
Not to blame for UN deaths: Quran-burning pastor
How easily he seems to shrug off any responsibility for the consequences of his actions. It’s depressing.
@Greg:
In an odd way this weird preacher shows a better understanding of how Muslims ”think” than most of us.
Remember Mohammad is the end-all and be-all for Muslims.
He is the perfect example.
Mohammad did NOT use logic.
He taught so many contradictory things that he finally said, look, the last thing I said stands, if I said something the opposite earlier. (Abrogation)
A book filled with such contradictory teachings has led Muslim thinkers to conclude there is NO ”cause and effect” in the world.
Things just happen.
It is the ”will of Allah.”
So, our Western minds are trained to look for a cause.
The Muslim mind just doesn’t work like that.
While we read an average of 11 books every year, the world wide research found that your average Muslim merely reads 6 pages of writing in a year!
Taking an imam’s word for what is ”the will of Allah” is simply par for the course for your average Muslim.
If three of them go around with loudspeakers and then preach in the Mosque that ”Allah has been insulted” and ”the Infidel must die,” guess what will happen?
Just what we saw.
The religion of peace strikes again.
Nan G, we are not accountable to the UN making LAWS, WHAT ever LAW is PUSH by THE ARABS,
and I hope the AMERICANS wont allow them to decide what or where, from them,
the only laws here are the CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHT IN AMERICA , FOR AMERICANS,
the UN STARTED YEARS AGO FOR A GOOD PURPUSE, BUT WENT TOO FAR AS THEY ARE DICTATING NOW INTO THE AFFAIRS OF THE WORLD, THEY ARE DICTATING THE WARS TO BE FOUGHT BY OUR OWN BRAVES WITH APPROVAL OF THIS PRESIDENT, that is the wrong being done, and should be delt with as soon as now,
Hi, Curt,
Burning Korans is a GREAT idea; and EVERYBODY should do it.
Islam is the direct cause of GRINDING POVERTY not to mention world-wide wholesale VIOLENCE and MURDER.
Wake up.
Terry Jones is a jack-ass, but this is America and a person has the right to be a jack-ass; just look at Congress.
What would happen if everytime a Christian was killed or jailed in a Muslim country, Christians in this country stormed the mosques and killed any Muslims inside? Would it be the fault of the country that killed the Christians or the Christians that stormed the mosque?
I think in response, we should go back to the idea of burn a Koran day with millions of them set to flame. Any book that leads is followers to jihad, flying planes into buildings, sharia law with all its perversions, and has put us into war should be burned. Imagine if there was a statement in the Bible about homosexual priest abusing teenagers and we had a rash of them following the writing and yelling a quote from the book like allah akbhar. I would bet money that the bible would be under attack and maybe even banned. But here you have beheadings, young girls being raped and then charged with a crime and beaten and stoned to death. How does Islam get a pass when they are still stuck in the middle ages and everyone else has long passed into a new age as in the change between the old and new testament. Those who want to point out any comparison to the koran often quote the old testament statements but fail to show where anyone in any Christian country is still using what was written in the old testament like multiple wives. What is it about Islam that demands the followers go back to the writting as written in the middle ages and use it today and why does the west give them a total pass on this evil. I cannot imagine a country that is the most Christian upon hearing a bible is being burned would do anything like this. At most, there might be some line up for a non violent peaceful protest. The look of hatred in these pictures is being taught to the followers at the earlies age and they are placing weapons in their hands and honoring those who blow up innocent people and in the process kill themselves. Have we all gone insane in saying this is a religion of peace. If anyone in this religion is indeed peaceful, they are certainly silent and giving aid and comfort to evil which makes them just as guilty. So count me in as sick of the entire Islam mess, its supposedly sacred religion, and its fanatics. We had more outrage over homosexual priests attacking kids than we had over someone stoning children. And even in the abuse by priests, most wanted to label it anything than what actually was showing it had more to do with hatred of the Catholic Church than protecting kids. If anyone googles homosexual and twinks, you will see that this is huge in the homosexual community and leads to teenage boys being targets of gay men. That was also what the report showed was the abuse issue with homosexual priests going after their prime target, not of young boys as most tried to make it out to be, but after teenage boys they call twinks. So why was it not properly labeled and why did the country not go after the homosexual community that still openly abuses boys if the kids were the concern? I think we should be as upset with anyone who goes after boys under the age of consent and prosecute them as sexual perverts and abusive rapist.
Knowing your enemy and clearly labeling what it is you are strying to stop seems like a very important part of any war or any cause be is islam or saving all kids from abuse…
Burning books? And this accomplishes exactly what, save for a 21st century acceptance of Farenheit 451 as a solution.
There’s definitely ugly mugs in that photo. But to make this a blanket judgment of all Muslims, instead of lunatics who need little provocation to prove they are human cockroaches, is absurd.
This defines Islam and the very future the major force within wants for us. Death.
GRETA Terry Jones is a bigoted red neck fool.
Agree with aqua, its his god given right to burn korans. I’m sure taking away someone’s right to burn a bokk would lead the want-to-be dictators to believe they can do anything.
The violent words in the koran are many (over one hundred) and can be taken to mean any number of things, I’m a religious person and I don’t believe many of the very recent representations of the bible, like the rapture or much of the end time stuff. That stuff is bull s*** that a guy thought up using unusual logic, in my opinion. The different opinions of christians are numerous. Well the same is true of muslims. From the sunis who took the words of Asia(muhamads ONLY virgin wife…) to be the true and created the hadith. Then their is the shia whom believed that Ali, who was muhamads daughters husband, was the true heir to muhamad and of his heirs their was 12 imams the last of whom disappeared at the age of four. Most shites believe he will return (similar to the Christian end times theory). The shia and the suni had wars long before they had thought up names for the sects they were to create.
Perhaps our biggest problem at the moment is not the crazy mosques that go on a rampage, or the pastors that burn books but Iran who has a shia establishment. Shia muslims make up 20% of all muslims but have a government that is structured by a religion similer to the catholic church and is far more corrupt. Iran is 90% shia, iraq is 60% and some of lebanon is shia. Hezbolla is shia. Not all shia muslims are the dogmatic, violent ones but Iran is the major contributor to terrorist groups and is preparing the world for the arrival of the twelfth imam. As you may have noticed in the US and europe, speaking ill of a religion (or religious sect) is considered to be “racist” and its “wrong” to say that certain religions are leading people to do “wrong”. Its hard to fight an ideology when we shy away from discussion, especially when we use insults to discredit those who want to discuss it. Therefore this has become an enemy that is hard to fight. I do however believe that the US is way ahead of the rest of the world in those regards and has taken many steps in the right direction.
99% of the violence in the world today is caused by a lame book.
It may be true that we face a choice: burning KORANS today, or burning muslims tomorrow.
Europe has chosen the later alternative.
Maybe muslims need some help; that means help besides enabling their toxic “religion.”
“But to make this a blanket judgement of all Muslims, instead of lunatics who need little provacation to prove they are human cockroaches, is absurd.”
Yeah, I was taken aback by all the “moderate” Muslims that came out today in opposition to the actions of the lunatics. Protest marches, interveiws on every channel in the western world, hundreds of articles in all the newspapers, all denouncing the actions of the “lunatics.” And then, I woke up. It was only a dream. Those things never happened.
Like so many, you seem to want to discount this as the actions of a few “lunatics.” But you are wrong. These are the actions of those who have never read anything in their lives but the Qu’ran. They have it (the whole ‘holy’ book) memorized by the time they are 12. This IS the religion of “peace” it is truest form. So excuse it all you want, but that doesn’t make you right.
What if Christians decided to go on rampages everytime some Muslim in Palestine desecrates the Bible? How about remembering what respect the Palestinians had for Christianity in 2005 when they took up residence in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher and used Bibles for toilet paper? Should Christians have stormed mosques all across the Western world and murdered, and beheaded, as many Muslims as possible?
Accept it; Islam, and its adherents remain in the 7th century and it has nothing to do with poverty or education. Mohammed Atta and Nidal Hassan were hardly poor, or uneducated. Al Alwalki is educated, by us, btw. It has to do with a cult mentality that has been passed off as a religion. Started by a war lording pedophile, who gave followers a way out of their crimes by proclaiming that they really had no control over their own actions as all things are already predetermined by Allah. Free will does not exist in Islam.
We have to face it. We are involved in a holy war that will not get any better until there is a total reformation of Islam, and its holy book is no longer taken literally. I don’t see that happening in my life time.
People who think that ”moderate” Muslims will someday stand up against their so-called extremist brothers haven’t gotten to know many of the people who have been forced to leave Islam because of the overpowering influence of even one ”extreme”’ Muslim in a family.
The book, Leaving Islam, is a compilation of dozens of first-hand accounts.
A common thread thoughout that compilation is that there is no reasoning, nor moderating of the ”extremist,” who marries into a family of quiet and mild Muslims.
The ”extremist” can back up his every action from the Koran.
The ”moderates” cannot.
They eventually fear for their own lives and safety so much they run away, disappear from their families forever.
And why?
Because there is no answer from inside Islam to counter violent jihadists and rioters.
Even the elected Muslims who tried to moderate Pakistan’s blasphemy laws were killed!
retire05, hi, so why do they send our military to help those to depose one leader,
is nt it a proof that it’s wrong, they will continiue to have the same goal to destroy AMERICA,
no matter if you help them, or not, and our troops get blown up in the mean time in afghanistan,
OBAMA CANNOT EVEN FINISH ONE WAR, HOW CAN HE BE CALLED COMMANDER IN CHIEF,
what a shame for our BRAVEST
Zac #24 You must be O.K. with burning The American Flag and The Bible.God given right you say .Surprised you feel that way.
rich wheeler I’m sure that you eat your words before typing
because they always come from your bottom smelly opening
ilovebeeswarzone;
We send out soldiers to die for those who, if given a choice, would kill us with their own hands, because it is the “humanitarian” thing to do, or at least that is what we are told. But if you really understand Islam, you understand that its adherents hold no loyality to any nation when given the choice between a nation and their cultish faith.
And as protests, riots and rebellions spread all across the Middle East, what happens when they get tired of fighting each other? What will be the common bond between Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Libya? One thing; their hatred for Christians and Jews, no matter what nation we live in. It will unite them as one body.
The Shites have been waging war with the Sunni for 1,300 years. That will not end, but the one common bond will be “the enemy of their enemy”.
We are only prolonging the inevitable; a war like none other we have ever seen, in my opinion. With the entrenchment of Muslims in Europe, and the U.S., who will they side with? I do not think it will be the western world that has welcomed them with open arms.
Watch what is happening. We are now learning that the rebels in Libya are being trained by former Gitmo detainees, ones that our government released to a Libyan jail and are now out, and that they are being armed via weapons coming from Egypt, as Egypt is falling to the Muslim Brotherhood.
With Obama in office, who has already said that (and I am paraphrasing here) “if the policital winds change, I will always side with the Muslim” no one asked him WHAT political winds and WHERE, what could possibly go wrong for the U.S.?
Rich, in my opinion it depends on the constitution, not on my opinion. I’m sure bible burning is constitutional and as far as I know flag burning is too. If I’m wrong on that feel free to correct me. I disagree with burning any book. Bible or koran.
r etire05, hi, exactly what I thought, you know what it make me think of a STRATEGY THAT THE RUSSIAN USED WITH NAPOLEON, lure them inside deep in russia and where waiting for them as the harsh winter settle in, and they fell for it, and where slawther by the RUSSAN ARMY,
NOW WE HAVE SEEN THE ARABS GROUPS OF THE UN DEMANDING HELP IN THERE,
THEN WE see OBAMA being lobbyed by those 3 woman to take action, then they refer to the NATO
which are under the UN WORLD ORGANISATION GLOBAL GOAL TO TAKE FULL POWER OF THE GLOBE INCLUDING US, AND WE GULLIBLY OBEYED THAT ORGANISATION, TO PARTICIPATE,
while the ARABS backed up, now we’r in there and they will drag us all around, because we are on their turf surrounded with other governments newly acquire by radical THE BROTHERS,
THAT SPELL DANGER TO DECIMATE OUR OWN BRAVES,
NOW COULD IT HAVE BEEN ORCHESTRATE BY HATER OF AMERICA TO RENDER US VULNERABLE ENOUGH FOR INVADERS TO COME AND IMPOSING THEIR OWN CONSTITUTION,
BACKED UP BY THEIR AGENTS ALREADY IN GOVERNMENT AT ANY LEVEL FROM THE FIRST STEP TO THE TOP,
MataHarley seems concerned about burning the koran and touts the usual line about “to make this a blanket judgment of all Muslims, instead of lunatics who need little provocation to prove they are human cockroaches, is absurd”. I might start to feel this way if muslims showed up in mass numbers in every city around the world protesting against the lunitics and turning in the radicals in their midst. That will not happen because they also agree in their silence. The silent Germans were what allowed Hitler and the Nazi party to gain control and it was also their silence that lead to death camps. How did we stop Hitler? did we sit around and say it is only a few and the german people are not like that? Seems like we said that what the germans were doing was evil and we had to take out the entire country and ban the party from existence forever. The same was true in Japan. We have let Islam hide under a curtain of being a religion of peace even while it has not shown it to be so for its entire existence. Only in the years when it was beat down was it a relgion of peace. The crusades came after hundreds of years of aggression and attack to spread that faith onto the world. Some fools actually think the crusades started Islam on its war like ways. Look at any map of the known world from the time of Islam founding to the first crusade and watch the takeover through war. That is still the goal today and wherever they gain any type of power, they try to push their faith on everyone else by use of force, terror, and violence. Yes, there are muslims in the USA who have fled the other countries poverty, but they set about building mosques and in many of these mosques they support the evil hatreds built into the koran. They remain silent in large numbers about the attacks on our country and our allies. The government now says that the greatest threats are those who are American born muslims to our country. It is spreading around the world and soon they will have full control of a government like Pakistan that has nuclear weapons. It is there dream to have these type of weapons for the ultimate terror threat.
I think the biggest mistake George W. Bush made while standing in the rubble of 9/11 was not to declare war on not only the terrorist, but all who are silent and not against this type of action and put all muslims in the world on notice that they needed to stop it or be declared part of it. You cannot fight a war unless you clearly see and understand the enemy and we now see grandma’s being searched at the airport while muslims who fit the profile are sent through so as to not upset the muslims. It would be like trying to fight only those nazi’s who we can identify agree with Hitler.
I saw burn the korans wherever they are found and force the muslims of peace to get off their butts and get on our side or face the rath of the American people. Make it hard to live here and send money to the terrorists or furnish them shelter. You do not fight wars with both arms tied behind your back and you certainly do not make flying safer by strip searching grandma’s.
rich wheeler, the american flag is not being used as the justification to fly planes into buildings to kill innocent people. We send our troops into war to stop evil and the USA is not evil in any way. The bible is not being used by groups to fly planes into buildings yelling allah akhbar. Over the last decade or so, we have attacked Catholic Priest and named them for the abuse of children. You would think from the number of articles and the open attacks, that all priests were out there doing bad things. it was less than .003% of priests that have served in the last 60 years. And the interesting thing in all those attacks, was that those on the attack to “save our kids” would not acknowledge who was attacking and who was being attacked. Over 80% of the attacks was by priests who were attracted to the same sex and to young men between the ages of 13 and 18 which the homosexual community call twinks. Seems like an important fact to know if saving children from abuse is the goal and not bashing the Catholic Church. Many labeled the problem as Pediphelia which is the attack on children under the age of puberty and while there were some that were, it was not anywhere near the real problem. The problem was ephebophilia. If one searches homosexual and twinks, you will see a massive number of listings for this well known part of the homosexual lifestyle in the attraction to adolescents. This was confirmed in a report called the Jay Report and also in many other studies. But when the Church said they planned to force the seminaries to stop admitting homosexuals, the public put up a cry saying it was not the problem. Of course the reason that they were there in the first place in the priesthood was the liberal wing of the Church starting allowing homosexuals in large numbers to be admitted into a few seminaries and protected them when the acts first occured. All of this is indeed fact. So if we were really interested in saving kids, seems like with this knowledge, we would have an all out effort to seperte those children who are targets of this homosexual community attracted to them and put them all behind bars. But you cannot attack the problem because the gay community and liberals would not allow it even at the expense of children. It is the same crowd that will not allow us to name Islam as the problem despite the ongoing attacks of Islam terrorist around the world for about 40 years. It is why we fight wars with rules of engagment as if war was some panty raid where the objective could be won without really hurting anyone and why the left thought they could handle this by taking the evil ones to court after they acted and after we caught them, gave them their rights, furnished lawers, and made sure if convicted that the jail they went to would be properly equiped with all the latest amenities and of course the Koran and prayer rug. we need a lot of George Pattons, George Marshalls, Omar Bradleys, and commander in cheifs like the war side of FDR (of course he was a socialist domestically). He said only total and unconditional surrender is acceptable and only after we annilate them with everything including firebombing cities, rounding up germans and japs and putting them in camps for the duration, and development and use of an atomic bomb. But we are not mean like that any more. We could have ended the war on terror in about a month if we used the same means and had the same will. Searching grandma makes so much more sense and not naming the enemy and giving aid and comfort to the enemy even in our own cities makes so much more sense. Of course they behead soldiers if they capture our men after giving them real torture. We crings over waterboarding to get info to save lives. Give me a break…
The pastor did nothing wrong. He has every right to express himself.
I see it this way ” A jackass brays in florida and monkies go crazy in whateverstan.”
Makes perfect sense to me.
Perhaps its time to start nuking whateverstan.
Obvious double standard.
Google News:
Who thinks no Korans were damaged in these Mosque bombings?
Me neither.
Greta–
Great lord!
I am a gun totin’, rough enough, 13th generation white son of South Carolina and the old south, veteran of Viet Nam, and amazingly cranky old SOB who doesn’t shock easily but I gotta tell you toots, you got some pretty rigid opinions about things. If by any chance, you have a carry permit for that Desert Eagle you have stuffed in your bra, you might consider that if any ATF read those diatribes and link you, them and your carry permit, it will probably be history and in their righteous indignity, they might throw a net over you when they come to collect the 50 cal intruder persuasion device. Not that during the administration of your First Affirmative Action President there would be anybody like that snooping around on a conservative website but advocating the burning of Korans is enough to give them brown stripes in their skivies at the clench marks!
Thank God for the constitution and the right for you to say what you feel. Just bear with me if I don’t always agree with you.
God bless America, for as long as we can make it last.
You know I have said this to people before..”How many bibles have been burned”? What is the difference between these two religions..One is about love, and the other…you decide.
And yet we have people here and in other countries informing us we should not and will not be allowed to exercise our constitutional freedoms under the guise of hate speech, intolerance or whatever one wants to call it! Burn a Koran, you will be charged with a hate crime. Burn the bible, that’s fine! Criticize Mohamed, you are a hater. Piss Jesus? That’s art!
Why isn’t everyone in this country outraged? LOL! I’m assuming I’ve posted enough here so one can imagine the word outraged doesn’t quite fit what I feel about this nonsense !
One doesn’t have to agree with the Terry Jones (the man is just another self-centered religious bigot) of the world but we sure as hell have to defend his right to do as he did. If I’m supposed to turn the other cheek when some commie bastard burns my flag, I sure as hell need to do the same in this and any other case! As much as I hate to admit it, he is correct on one thing. The idiocy we are now seeing over there does prove one of his points. The intolerance of these religious fanatics is beyond reason.
One other thing here as long as I’m on my soapbox. It is high time the people of this country stand up for their ideals. If I want to draw a satiric cartoon of Mohamed with his virgin harems, that is my right in this country. Yet, we have a rabid element starting with our President that wants to take that and other sacred rights away form us! We have a press who is afraid to offend and as such will not publish the truth about so many things. Personally, I don’t care who worships what! But I sure as hell care when one infringes upon another, especially with violence (Irish take note. Same idiocy there as I’m an equal opportunity disser).
joetote,hi, I have to say, that you can find the right arguments to close a deal
or a dispute among same group of AMERICANS PATRIOTS,
thank you
Dink Newcomb, I must say that the FIRST AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENT doesn’t live wiT that name, because HE IS THE FIRST NEGATIVES ACTION PRESIDENT EVER TO BE IN HIS JOB.
BYE
Several posters are seriously mistaken about the real and direct cause of 20 deaths now.
Soldiers of Allah caused the deaths, mutilations, beheadings, I think must be absolutely clear to any thoughtful person.
Burning the Damned Koran makes perfect sense, because Islam is the DIRECT CAUSE OF GRINDING POVERTY IN MOST OF THE WORLD, and the DIRECT CAUSE OF UNCOUNTABLE MURDERS, STARVATION, MUTILATIONS, FEMALE CIRCUMCISION, and much more than I can add here.
I plan on having several KORAN BURNINGS MYSELF, as soon as I can find a way to publicize it brilliantly like the previous HERO, Terry Jones, did.
bees,
Thanks!!!!! I try in my own humble way. LOL!
@Dink Newcomb:
Yes, I hold strong beliefs. However, I often seen those who disagree on the attack as opposed to pointing out the errors of what was said. Funny how that works.
Chillguy, great post and I support your effort. You might be disappointed, but certainly not deterred, that CNN will not carry your story, and that the world’s number one Muslim, Barack Hussein Obama, will not approve it. I’m sure you can handle it, however.
It helps to get a better understanding of what we are up against if you just watch the utube video followed by some background on Wikipedia. The pollyanna posters on this board should take a second look and extrapolate for the benefit of our descendants. Folks, Western Civilization is at stake. The wars will start in the streets, as the Frenchman in the video states, and will then escalate to the armies. What could happen if one of the fanatics in a final act of desperation gets to the button before we get to him?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A3YQANdvvbY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_massacre_of_1961
The UN should have known they would be attacked someday and should have been more prepared. The Germans control that sector and did nothing. If that happened in a U.S. sector, enough Apaches would be overhead that they could be considered their own tribe.
Most Afghans can’t even read the Koran and if you handed them a dictionary and said it was a Koran, they would believe you. They get their information from clerics verbally and the clerics can say anything they want and the people would believe them. Persions and Arabs can be bought to do many things such as show up at funerals as criers, show up at big parties and even protest. Also the Taliban could be members of the protestors and using other protestors as cover.
Terry Jones should be arrested for involuntary manslaughter. He set off a riot that directly caused the deaths of several people. He is Wolf in sheep’s clothing. He does not represent Christianity at all. Quite the opposite.
James Harper, he has the freedom of doing it that is not ban by the CONSTITUTION.
IT’s his way of fighting those radicals, which are the one responsible for their actions,
they cannot control their thoughts or feelings, they will go bazurk on anything they are told to do.this was just one exemple of it, what if we do the same for them burning the FLAG, AND they have burned a lot more . what if we had kill them for it?
villageview3, hi, you know the BIBLE is not allowed in those COUNTRYS,