The words uttered by Democrats over the last few weeks are nothing short of mind boggling in their flaming hypocrisy and the more they speak the worse it gets. Some are on the edge of comical, but many are worth revisiting.
Let’s start with Howard Dean:
I do not believe the President should have been given a green light to drive our nation into conflict without the case having first been made to Congress and the American people for why this war is necessary, and without a requirement that we at least try first to work through the United Nations…
“If the administration believes that any, any use of force against Iran is necessary, the president must come to Congress to seek that authority,”
“It would be a mistake of historical proportion if the administration thought that the 2002 resolution authorizing force against Iraq was a blank check for the use of force against Iran without further congressional authorization”
“We continue to experience the consequences of unchecked presidential action,” she said, later adding: “This president was allowed for too long to commit blunder after blunder under cover of darkness provided by an allied Republican Congress”
“I want to make it clear. And I made it clear to the President that if he takes this nation to war with Iran without Congressional approval. I will make it my business to impeach him. That’s a fact. That is a fact.”
Can any of you Obama supporters tell us why this a particularly stupid statement by the long time member of the Senate Judiciary?
“Bush needs approval to invade Iran.”
Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.
The president led us into the Iraq war on the basis of unproven assertions without evidence; he embraced a radical doctrine of pre-emptive war unprecedented in our history; and he failed to build a true international coalition.
(We’ll visit that again)
On his MSNBC show this evening, Cenk Uygur suggested that opposition to President Obama’s Libya policy is “unpatriotic.” For good measure, Dem congressman Gary Ackerman stated that opposing the president is “cheering for the wrong team.”
Nancy Pelosi: Dissent is patriotic.
“This is different,” Boxer said Wednesday. Today, “you’re facing a dictator who vowed” widespread slaughter in his own country, she said, adding that Obama “did the right thing.”
Note: Saddam killed a estimated one million Iraqis
And the Hypocrite-in-Chief
Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power…. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.
But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors…and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
No system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other.
The good news for Democrats is that they’re not alone.
Obama is committed to partnering with other countries rather than going it alone as did his predecessor George W. Bush, which both broadens and complicates the decision-making process.
Fact: Bush Had 2 Times More Coalition Partners in Iraq Than Obama Has in Libya
But Al-Reutzeera finally did define the Obama doctrine;
Stung by accusations that it has sent mixed messages on Middle East events, the White House has said it is putting together a new, overarching strategy that will set out basic principles of U.S. policy toward the region.
In other words, the Obama Doctrine can be described this way:
Ready, Fire, Aim.
If hypocrisy was a crime we’d be bombing Reuters, the White House and the DNC headquarters instead of Libya.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
So you’re saying that NAFTA, signed into law by
George HW BushGeorge BushRichard Nixon(crap, it had to be a Republican, right?) caused Detroit to be ruined by Japan and China?😉
Yep, how dare I speak ill against President Bush! How dare I speak out against a man who helped bankrupt our nation! You see, President Bush can do no wrong, in Dr. John’s mind, as he’s got an “R” at the end of his name!
Your constant apologizing for Bush-a man who grew government more so than any other president since FDR- only makes you look like the laughing stock you are, Doctor.
You see, I despise Obama, yet I’m not the intellectually dishonest shill which you are. Narry a word against Bush or Boehner as they spend us into debt and insolvency. Nope, that only be the Democrats who’ve done that.
You’ve lost all credibility, Doctor.
drjohn: Ivan, how did Boehner get into the discussion about democrat hypocrisy?
Ivan: Because Obama is awesome.
drjohn: Did you ask me if I loved everything Bush did?
Ivan: No, because I needed a straw man desperately as I am getting my butt kicked here.
drjohn: No problem.
Ivan: Did you love everything Bush did?
drjohn: No, I hated the way he spent. I also despised his No Child Allowed to Progress law.
Ivan: So I was wrong.
drjohn: Yes, again.
Ivan: So what about Boehner?
drjohn: He is a whiner. I have already commented that I wanted Boehner to have the same take no prisoners attitude that Pelosi had. You missed it.
Ivan: Sorry.
drjohn: BTW, Ivan, Obama is the President now, not Bush. This post was about democrat hypocrisy, not Bush.
Ivan: Obama is awesome.
Ha! If anyone is getting their ass handed to them, it’s you.
I really enjoy your fantasy conversation tactic. How original! I’ll do that later when I have time.
😎
Just a quick Comment….
Ok IVAN, BUSH made some mistakes! Happy NOW?? GOOD! Now, does that mean, we need to DOUBLE DOWN on that error, with ULTRA HIGH Deficit Spending??
If Bush blew it, WHY do you not insist Obama FIX IT! CUT SPENDING TO THE BONE!
Simple enough Question???
drjohn: Ivan, how did Boehner get into the discussion about democrat hypocrisy?
Ivan: We’re talking about hypocrites, right?
drjohn: Duh, my bad.
drjohn: Did you ask me if I loved everything Bush did?
Ivan: Oh, the “I don’t agree with everything he did” claim? You’ll just rag Obama for the very actions Bush engaged in?
drjohn: Hey, the deficits were tame under Bush!
Ivan: So you’re okay with exploding government spending?
drjohn: Did I say that?
Ivan: Never mind.
drjohn: And you were wrong about all those wonderful free-trade agreements; Clinton gave them to us!
Ivan: Over Democratic objections. You forgot that.
drjohn: What’s your point? Free trade has helped make America stronger! More competitive!
Ivan: Care to say that on a street corner in a few cities in Ohio, California or Michgan?
drjohn : Hell no! I’d get my ass kicked like those Canadians club baby-seals!
Ivan: So you don’t care about the millions of American jobs which have gone to China and India?
drjohn: Sorry, the Constitution doesn’t guarantee work! That’s not my problem that they lost their union house and and now living under a freeway underpass!
Ivan: But if we brought back sensible tarrifs, like the kind we had under Reagan and when our economy thrived, would you be for that?
drjohn: NO and HELL NO!!! I might have to pay more for my tamatoes or car! Where does it say in the constitution that my fellow Americans are owed a job?
Ivan: So as long as you got yours it’s all good, right?
drjohn: That’s right. I’m a country-clubber, born and raised with the silver-spoon in my mouth.
Ivan. Got it.
Hankster says: 61
You don’t get it. Boehner and his Republican House is going to make the same mistake Pelosi, Obama and Bush made. They will SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.
Why in the name of our Lord do you think they keep passing CRs? They are negotiating just how big the deficit will be this year!
In the end, the Republican House will come through for Obama, not the American citizens who put them into power.
And many of you here at FA will feign outrage about it and then turn around and vote for them as the lesser of two evils.
Well guess what “Hankster”, you’re still voting for evil when you for the lesser of two evils.
I’m pissed beyond belief at the betrayl, you and your friends aren’t.
Are you suggesting we vote for the Dems to take us down the toilet bowl faster?
Are you suggesting we vote third party for candidates who’s platforms we agree with minimally fiscally, and not at all on foreign policy, and will result in a Dem win and still take us down the toilet bowl faster?
Or might you be bright enough to consider that your third party Libertarian candidates ain’t going to cut the electoral mustard, and perhaps we indys ought to get together with the GOP faithful, and disgruntled, and starting putting the GOP elected ones’ feet to the fire?
I’ll take door #3, thank you.
Of course not, where do you read that into what I write? But read what you wrote, both parties are taking us into the toilet bowl.
Again, what is the point in voting for the Republicans if their deficit will be $1.7Trillion minus .06Trillion versus the Dems who gave us a deficit of $1.7Trillion?
Oh, by the way, we’re on track for a $2Trillion deficit by the ene of this year. The Republicans cutting $60 Billion is **NOTHING** given that we’re now in War #3.
I despise the Losertarians almost as much as I do the Demoncats. Losertarians = free traitors= open borders and legalized drug use. They can go to hell, along with the Dems.
Sad. Sad that such an intelligent woman such as yourself will prostrate yourself at the feet of evil scum as John “Cry baby” Boehner and the rest.
I’m going to let you in on a little secret, Mata: The knife in the front is preferable to the knife in the back. The Republicans have stabbed us in the back.
Get it?
Ivan, i’m not happy either, But WHICH party “hasn’t got the message” yet?? The Voters SENT one, and they choose to IGNORE it! We’re stuck on CR’s because the DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO GIVE IN TO THE WILL OF THE VOTERS! Can you say TREASONOUS??? Me?? I say we go and drag them out and HANG em in front of the Capital! Every last one of them who refuses to cut….And as they twist and kick..ask them in a snide voice….
“Can you here us NOW”????
You think YOU are pissed?? HA!
@Hankster:
NOW YOU”RE TALKING.
But don’t give the Republicans a pass. Boehner, the Cry Baby, could put a stop to this, but he won’t.
And Ivan, I don’t trust ANY of them…. I’m getting ready for things to pop! I’m out in the sticks, on a small farm.. Got deer, Stocked lakes for fish, and Garden, and building a new Chicken house for eggs and meat birds….. everything is paid for, no mortgages.. so if the world crashes and burns.. we’re going to survive it. Oh yeah, no gas?? Ride the horses to town! Like “Alfred E Neuman” used to say, “WHAT? Me Worry?” LOL!
They need to get past the “I want to get re-elected” thought process, and use the I NEED TO DO THIS COME HELL OR HIGH WATER PERIOD thought process!!! Until the “PATRIOTISM matters most” idea grows to be BIGGER than their desire to “have a career” in DC… We’re Screwed.
Hankster says: 70
As long as they have people like Drjohn shilling for them, and good people such as the misguided Mata, they know they can always betray them as they can count on their vote.
The knife in the back is far worse than the knife in the front.
Remember that.
duh… you new here? You know very well I’m highly disgruntled… as are many here… with the lack luster GOp leadership. You miss the point of my entire post.
You asked if everyone will vote for the lesser of two evils. So what’s the choice, Ivan? Vote for the lesser evil, or vote for the greater evil? Too tough for you?
But I already know who you are, and you’d advocate a third party vote…. which is the same for voting for the greater evil. That’s no cure.
The only cure is to ride herd on those that were put into power to be fiscally responsible. Slap ’em around in the media, applying pressure, until they behave. And if not, advocate they cast the bums out.
But, when it comes to analyzing me, congratuations on proving you’re damned inept at “reading between the lines”. I know very well you have read that I’m royally PO’d and unsupportive of this new Congress. Or perhaps you don’t retain things well?
Let me ask that again… don’t you retain well?
I repeat, do you remember what I just said? LOL You have a history of short memory and comprehension problems. Too much “reading between the lines” that your blur reality and retention, I guess.
I never said I’d support Boehner. In fact I’m on record in December, railing against the idiots in the lame duck session, showing what pansies they are on the tax and employment extensions. Personally I’d put the guy up against the wall with media pressure to perform as nation dictated in the midterms. But the media won’t do that. Just bloggers.
But here’s a civics lesson for you…. I can’t vote for or against him since I’m not a constituent. For a not so bright guy, you haven’t figured out that we can’t do anything about Congressional members outside our two state Senators, and our district House Rep. duh…..
Lots of talk… very little brain power you have, Ivan.
Yo Ivan… to jog your senile memory, comments in the past.
From April 2010
That does not mean I get a larger selection in voting, or that I will abstain from voting. That cures nothing as well.
from October 30th
From Dec 19th,2010.. of which I addressed part of this response to YOU.. no excuses
From Feb 8th
As far as my disgust with the new Congress during the lame duck session, you can see that here…. here,…. and here. Needless to say, your concepts of my politics are a figment of your manifested personal dislike.
Well Ivan.. she’s got ya there!! Problem with a forum like this is…. it’s really VERY hard, to really, honestly articulate your position, in snips and short posts, while the issues and topics are so COMPLEX in nature! some sort of “live chat” would make it a lot easier.. perhaps some day…..
It’s rather like real life, Hankster. If you regularly interact with a group of people once a week – i.e. support groups, etc – most actually retain things others have said and get an idea about where they are coming from. i.e. you get to know “your rabbit” over time by putting together lots of conversations and comments.
Thus Ivan’s “retention” problem. Apparently he doesn’t possess that ability, and can only funtion with the words before him at the moment, and then attempts to “read between the lines”. Bad habit to bet on in the long run.
Ivan: Oh, the “I don’t agree with everything he did” claim? You’ll just rag Obama for the very actions Bush engaged in?
drjohn: Yes, especially since those are the very things Obama slammed Bush with and Obama campaigned on being different. He was not, of course. He was worse.
“what I’ve done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut.”
Ivan: Oh….
drjohn: That’s right, Ivan, Obama’s answer to too much spending was WAAAAYYYY too much spending. Obama’s answer to large deficits was GINORMOUS deficits. Obama’s answer to the growing national debt was DOUBLING the national debt.
Ivan: Thanks for clarifying- but Obama is still awesome.
drjohn: I’d like you to meet Mr. Smoot and Mr. Hawley
Ivan: Who are they?
drjohn: >sigh<
@Ivan:
I said that Boehner was a whiner and I did not like his actions and you still wrote this?
Mata’s right, Ivan.
Why should this surprise anyone? There are two requirements for being a leftist…utter hypocrisy and absolute shamelessness.
Hankster says: 73
She, Mata, is intellectually dishonest. Take a look at her April 2010 thread. She accuses me of being “Senile”, yet I wasn’t in that April thread. I didn’t read that.
“Ah-ha! You forgot what I said back in April in 2010!!”
So what? How could I forget some conversation/thread I wasn’t part of?
Never mind, that point is way, way, way over her head.
Now, I seriously believe that Mata is against the liberalization of the Republican Party, but I also believe that she will continue to support said liberal Republican Party to her dying days.
She’s said as much: No third Party for Mata.
There is where she and I digress, she’s, in the end, a Republican hack while I put my political philosophies and moral values before party loyalty.
Mata, would you agree with this assessment?
So $10 billion in cuts on a budget that is heading to $2Trillion.
I love that last, pussified quote,”Not an option.”
The Republican Party sold us out. To hell with them. The knife in the front is preferable to the knife in the front any day of the week.
The $10 billion was all that Obama and the Dems wanted.
But the Republicans got $10 billion in cuts during the 5 weeks of CR’s.
Now it looks more and more like there will be a federal government shutdown……
http://news.google.com/
Again, we’ll see.
Well I’ll call you and raise you this quote:
Even if there were to be a shut-down, is there any doubt in your mind that it won’t end in exactly the same manner that the 1995 shut-down ended: Clinton dominating the Republicans and coasting to a 1996 land-slide victory.
I want these “Republicans” to fight and destroy the enemy, while in fact we have “Go-along-to-get-along” worms like Hal Rogers of Ky doing his best to kiss Obama’s ass seven-ways to Sunday.
They betrayed us and lied to us- not surprising.
Only a true, bona-fide coward hits the dislike button and doesn’t identify themselves.
I am curious as to what you want?? The Repubs want Cuts. The Dems stonewall. We’ve gotten some, tho NOT what we are expecting, to be sure. But if the Dems refuse to do, what is RIGHT here, what do you suggest?? Shoot them?? What?? LOL!! The Repubs played chicken, and neither side has “flinched” so we’ll hit each other!! (Gov Shutdown)… I say LET EM! Let it shut down! the PARTY OF the “REAL NO” is revealing itself! We need cuts, the Dems say NO! I’d say to Boehner… let it shut down, tell the Democrats when you GROW UP, and want to face REALITY, come back. Otherwise, enjoy a long, NO PAY vacation! No WORK, .. No PAY to Congress!
That’s what I see for starters…..
I don’t see Hal Rogers as the end-all, be-all of the Republican position on shutting down the government IF the Dems refuse to make more cuts.
He hasn’t even weighed in in more than 10 days.
It is also on the Dems that no more CR’s will come to pass.
Talk about an e’ffing joke, you are it, Ivan. I went thru this pathetic and uneducated attempt at revisionist history on another thread with JC.… apparently you need the same history lesson.
Since I know you are click/link challenged, I’ll repeat it here.
Let’s start the clock with the most expensive of two the worst fiscal ideas given to us from liberal Democrat Congresses and Presidents… Social Security in 1935. Let’s see… history of control of Congress:… aka control of the nation’s purse strings.
Since the 74th Congress in 1935 – a total of 39 Congressional sessions including today’s 112th – Democrats have held Senate majority 28 out of 39 sessions. One session was a 50/50 split (2001 to 2003). oops… no GOP majority there.
Democrats have held the House for 30 sessions out of 39.
Yet you’re busy whining and blaming the 9 GOP majorities in both Chambers out of all these years? What? THe world began and ended with George W. Bush’s terms? This despite that the largest drain on the US economy is both entitlement programs… SS and Medicare… created by Dems for all the rest of their power hold for decades?
You got chutzpah, dude. Or a very limited view of history. Take your pick.
I doubt your math it better, but you might want to consider that since every Congress increases US debt… despite party rule… the Dems have done far more economic damage to this nation that the GOP simply because of their longevity of control. The trillions added in just two years alone is a record breaker.
So what’s that “shill” bit again? Tell me, Ivan. You insist you aren’t for the Dems, and you sure aren’t for the GOP. Then you say you aren’t for third party either.
Seems to me you’re just a professional, hyperventilating whiner with no solutions, only criticisms, and no allegience to anything, any principle or foundation. Just a hateful old man with a ‘tude and a very bad memory.
If anyone is a revisionist, it is you, Mata. Everyone knows what happened to USG spending from 1995 till 2006. Everyone. So don’t try and spin it that spending didn’t grown. IT SKYROCKETTED under the REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP.
Here is the PROOF:
http://perotcharts.com/images/challenges/challenges01.png
Seems to me you can’t handle the truth. I’ve said it over and over (some people are thick-headed and don’t hear to well..hint!): NO MORE CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS. NO RISE IN THE DEBT CEILING.
I’ve said this over and over. Why do you pretend I haven’t offered a solution? Why do you turn away from the truth that once again, the Republicans snookered you-and me for the last time-in November of 2010 and and now laughing in your face?
Here you go, Mata:
Do you understand what he is saying? No shutdown. That means massive government spending.
Is that what you voted for, Mata?
Why are you shilling for these guys? Why are you making excuses for their betrayl?
Perhaps you’re really in favor of their constant treason?
WHY DO YOU SHILL FOR THEM, MATA??
There you go again, Mata. Shilling for the traitorous Republicans who have enslaved your Children and grand-children with trillions in debt. “It’s not their faul!”
Typical RNC hack.
You’ve lost all credibility with your faux-outrage. You’re more interested in preserving the status quo than a true fiscal revolution.
And you did yourself in by your own, pathetic words.
I LOVE IT!!!
Hankster says: 84
I’ve said it before: No increase in the debt ceiling. At that point, if it happens, liberalism loses and is no longer destroying this nation at the Federal level.
Oh please, spare me this line of rubbish, Hank. The Republicans HOLD POWER IN THE HOUSE. If they really want cuts, all they have to do is not extend the debt ceiling.
Can you understand that?
More RNC talking points: It’s Dems bad, Republicans Good! Horse-shit-on-that.
$10 billion out of $1.7Trillion? What a joke. Did you get an “F” in basic math? Go run the numbers and tell me how “Big” that cut is.
Yawn, Dems bad, republicans good. Blah, blah, blah. Republicans hold the purse strings.
Could you at least pretend to be mad like Mata does?
Ha! Given your previous “Republicans rock! Dems suck!” Comments I really don’t believe you believe what you typed.
@Ivan and @Ivan… thanks for proving my point you are a hateful old man with a bad memory. Your solutions? Other than complaining, there are none. Just criticisms and assaults. Accusations that people are “shilling” when they educate you to revisionist history.
Loser with a big “L”, you are…. Ironic, because we actually agree on many points. Not that you could remember…. LOL
Ivan is a breath of fresh air here.
Add Ivan as a contributor! Enough with the shilling for the big spending, covering for malfeasance corporations (especially TEPCO in recent threads).
Here here! YES!
Yeah, blast… you’re a voice that carries a lot of weight around here… /sarc
Someone pass blast the TicTacs please?
Blast re-earns his nic as “blasted”. I’ll spell it out for you leftists- he’s been drinking the bong water.
Blasted, since you think he’s a breath of fresh air that must mean you approve of his views of keeping women barefoot and pregnant. Not to mention his love of anti-semite, nazi-sympathizing pat buchannan.
Really, we know you’ll ignore that as long as he PRETENDS not to support dems and bashes the GOP. They should have kept you banned as you have yet again revealed your true sleazy colors.
Haha… I could have predicted your reply. I am sure Ivan does not want or need my imprimatur, but I totally agree with his sentiment.
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
I was screaming on here about deficits when Bush was president… everyone wanted to justify the war and not look at the big picture. Your heads were so far up Bushes ass you could not see what was really happening. Unfunded wars, expansion of medicare, erosion of personal liberties, bailouts etc – and that was even before Obama! We argued back in the day for the cost of the war in Iraq… you minimized the impact of cost when I was saying it was going to be way north of a trillion. Well, it will be $Trillions by the time they are paid off.
You are like a mouse on one of those wheels in the cage. Around and around. Never listen, just hit the talking points. If someone disagrees… well, SHOUT them down. yep. I am glad Ivan is here. He is articulate in these issues and a flavor of Conservative I like to hear from. Maybe his voice will improve the debate here, and maybe enough conservatives and Republicans will wake up and turn the party around.
blast, I don’t think you could predict rain on a cloudy day, dude…. Therefore your personal opinions of me slide off like water off a duck. Go tell someone who gives a sheeeeet.
Ivan, “articulate”….. LOL Well, we do know you have low standards. I guess using those threshholds, he certainly is. And oh, BTW, I’ve never SHOUTED anyone down. If you wish to accuse me of such instances, I suggest you provide a link. Otherwise, more BS from a less than masterful BS’er. But thank you for that example.
@Hardly Right,
My sleazy colors? lol. Saying I agree with Ivan on the points he has made on this thread (and I will add his treads about the nuclear incident) makes me sleazy, I will accept that as a badge of honor.
Why don’t you provide facts to your claims. Making such accusations seem quite empty… as most of your attacks on me have been.
Oh… one last thing. You seem to want to just stifle dialogue, that only your position counts (or is correct)… can’t you deal with opinions outside your own… Is that a threat to your world view… or is it just that if you were in charge no one could have an opinion other than your own. Yep, you just want to BAN all thought.
Ivan believe what you want. I don’t give a schit really! LOL!! There are two, count em, TWO choices we have here. NO third party Candidate has shown electability yet. Dems, sorry, no way in hell. So I got to go with the Repubs. Am I happy about it? No. Do I deal with REALITY? yes….Perhaps you should give it a try. I can want, preach, and PUSH for “the right things”…. but I’ll take whatever movement in that direction i can get, then next time, pick a BETTER guy to move even more that way… It’s that, or Revolution. So, YOU going to fire the first shot? If not, STFU….and DEAL with Reality…. it’s what we’re stuck with….for now….
apologies to others for the “harsh language”..
Look it up yourself blasted. It’s there for all to see. In fact, I’m the one who got him to admit his love of puke cannon on that particular thread. So feel free to call me a liar. Those whose opinion I value particpated and know the truth.
Again, I know you won’t care as long as he spews the kind of anti-GOP hate you approve of.
As much as I disgree with their views, I have no problem with Larry and Cary being here and they certainly don’t agree with me. You on the other hand are just a hate monger and proved it with your support of Ivan so spare me the “ban opposite opinion BS/victim card”. Plus you forget that I was here back before you started to pretend you weren’t the moonbat you had established yourself as. You just slipped and showed your true face and I called you on it. Whine on.
BTW, could you possibly be more hypocritical? Ivan mindlessly bashes the GOP while giving the dems a pass and you find that to be a “breath of fresh air?” That’s your idea of dialogue? Like I said, you’re a moonbat pretending not to be.
Wow, Ivan… you’ve added mind reading to your reading between the lines skills??
Word to the wise… keep the neon hand/tarot card sign out of your window, and keep your day job as a whiny old man.
MataHarley says: 90
You could use a little bit of my hate, Mata. The problem is that people like you, instead of being pissed off at our Republican House membmers, go around all day screaming,”Democrat bad, Republican Good.” For the love of God, give it up.
I notice that you never get up set and each and every betrayl. Notice how the Republicans talk a good game about “Cutting spending” and “reigning in government”, then when they get in power they expand government!!!! Nope, Mata’s alright with that. Oh sure, she feigns “outrage!” yet always comes home to papa on election day.
The last act of the desparate mind is the personal insult, Mata. You just played your last card and it’s a duce.
I repeat, Ivan… you’ve added omnipotent mind reading now to your reading between the lines supposed skills? Damn… you can’t even read plain English. I challenge you to find one “Republican Good” post or comment I’ve done. That I remind you, after you whine about debt by only looking back to the turn of the century, is not “Republican Good”…. it is a reality check for a dunce. That we are where we are not because of the last ten years, but because of the implementation of entitlement programs and attitudes, starting in 1935. Evidently, slides right over your only brain cell.
Talk about last acts of desperation. You are a pathetic soul. BTW… what one delivers to me, I return in kind… or with greater force. So if you don’t like the personal insults, I would suggest you discontinue misstating what I believe, and who I am. Otherwise, live with it, loser.
@MataHarley:
Mata
Ivan’s got to be a farmer. I’ve never seen so many straw men.
@MataHarley:
Hmmm, wonder what two folks gave you the thumbs down? Darryl and his other brother Darryl?
LOL!
All Right Dr. John… Do NOT INSULT the Hard working farmers of America, or we’ll have an Issue!! LOL!
(was a good pun tho!)
Dems try to position themselves to win in a government shutdown.
Democrats are working on a plan that would allow them to say they tried to meet Republicans halfway on spending cuts. This is similar to the earlier effort in which Democrats said they were meeting Republicans halfway because they were abandoning $47 billion in spending requests sought by President Obama.
The new effort on the Democratic side involves taking cuts already made and adjustments in other expenditures outside the realm of Republican cuts – annualized changes in farm subsidy rates, for example – to claim that they are proposing half of the $61 billion in total reductions sought by the GOP.
It looks like a mess, but the goal isn’t good bookkeeping. The goal is to position themselves to profit politically.
While this narrative is very attractive to reporters, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will work in the long run.
For the Reid plan to work, Senate Democrats actually have to cough up a plan.
It doesn’t have to succeed, but it has to get past the Senate, or at least have the unified support of the body’s 53 Democratic members. The Democratic caucus in the Senate smacked down Reid’s last gambit — $6.5 billion in cuts for the rest of the year.
But success will depend on whether the cuts are real and if moderate Senate Democrats will go along. Democrats failed on both counts last time
The administration and Reid may find a limited dem audience for a plan that looks like a political stunt designed to force a government shutdown and place the blame on Republicans.
Unless President Obama and Reid are willing to expand the playing field on fiscal issues, it seems unlikely that they can avoid a government shutdown or be seen as credible on the deficit.
The Democrats who have argued that a shutdown would be a political opportunity may have led their party into this war of words without an exit strategy.
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MataHarley,
Just look back at the story about the so called “Fukushima 50″… when I called that propaganda, you went ballistic. It IS propaganda and you bought it hook line and sinker and spread it on this site.
@Hardly Right
I knew you had no proof. That is how you work. Half cocked.
you made a claim, back it up… or I guess the shoe fits. Liar!
Oh fer heavens sake, blast. Disagreeing with you, and pointing out you’re a hystercal chicken little is not “SHOUTING YOU DOWN”. Hypersensitive much?
@ MAta
LOL, you are being ridiculous Mata, you and your dishonest claims about bunkers and Geiger counters all to muddy that post. And then you got all high and mighty
you were being hyperbolic by repeating the propaganda of the Fukushima 50
You posted propaganda… there is no Fukushima 50, I pointed that out and you went nuts. Called me names, made shit up. The onus is on you mata.
Mata:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/03/21/japan.military.evacuation/
Care to retract some of your previous “it’s going to be ‘okay'” comments?
I’m a little busy to be catering to chicken littles at the moment, Ivan. But perhaps you will provide links to where I have ever said “it’s going to be ‘okay'” for me. What I have continually said is that you, blast and occasionally Nan G get ahead of the news and pronounce doom and gloom when there’s a different measurement, a new pool of water discovered. You’ve even gone so far as to insist you *know* the container status when even those on the site haven’t ascertained that.
Now your inept reading may take a “whoa, hold your horses about panicking”, and translate as “it’s going to be okay”. But I have no need to apologize for your “between the lines” reading disabilities. Therefore, no retraction is necessary.
Nor does your link say anything of note that’s newsworthy. They’ve been considering evacuating military families from the base for over a week that I know of. Nor does it say it’s going to happen, or mandatory. Just that they are “thinking about it”. Personally, if I were based there as a naval wife, I’d want to come home to the states. Why not?
But thanks for the latest chicken little update that the military is “thinking about” evacuating the families….. Wow. Breaking news of major import.
Would you like to see catastrophe and what Armaggedon looks like? ABC has put together before/after photos that you drag across to see the results pre and post earthquake/tsunami. So much loss of life. So much devastation. Strikes me as both you and the media tend to focus only on the nuke plant, and care little about the clean up and recovery efforts of the large scale damage *not* done by the power plant. Get some perspective, would ya?
@blast:
Hey blasted, let’s make a little bet. If I provide proof that Ivan is a pat buchannan fanboy, you’ll leave the site and troll elsewhere. How about it?
There is “no Fukushima Fifty”? LOL Tell that to Bloomberg’s Investment Watch Blog,…. or perhaps to the Yahoo news group, the Telegraph, Zero Hedge, or the Japan Times editorial that cites them as genuine heroes for Japanese youths to look up to.
They were originally called such since there were about 50 there in the first days. Of course, their ranks have swollen since then. Please tell me you’re not so dumb as to say there is no “Fukushima Fifty” because there’s more than 50 there now?
And you’re still an ass on this issue.