The words uttered by Democrats over the last few weeks are nothing short of mind boggling in their flaming hypocrisy and the more they speak the worse it gets. Some are on the edge of comical, but many are worth revisiting.
Let’s start with Howard Dean:
I do not believe the President should have been given a green light to drive our nation into conflict without the case having first been made to Congress and the American people for why this war is necessary, and without a requirement that we at least try first to work through the United Nations…
“If the administration believes that any, any use of force against Iran is necessary, the president must come to Congress to seek that authority,”
“It would be a mistake of historical proportion if the administration thought that the 2002 resolution authorizing force against Iraq was a blank check for the use of force against Iran without further congressional authorization”
“We continue to experience the consequences of unchecked presidential action,” she said, later adding: “This president was allowed for too long to commit blunder after blunder under cover of darkness provided by an allied Republican Congress”
“I want to make it clear. And I made it clear to the President that if he takes this nation to war with Iran without Congressional approval. I will make it my business to impeach him. That’s a fact. That is a fact.”
Can any of you Obama supporters tell us why this a particularly stupid statement by the long time member of the Senate Judiciary?
“Bush needs approval to invade Iran.”
Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.
The president led us into the Iraq war on the basis of unproven assertions without evidence; he embraced a radical doctrine of pre-emptive war unprecedented in our history; and he failed to build a true international coalition.
(We’ll visit that again)
On his MSNBC show this evening, Cenk Uygur suggested that opposition to President Obama’s Libya policy is “unpatriotic.” For good measure, Dem congressman Gary Ackerman stated that opposing the president is “cheering for the wrong team.”
Nancy Pelosi: Dissent is patriotic.
“This is different,” Boxer said Wednesday. Today, “you’re facing a dictator who vowed” widespread slaughter in his own country, she said, adding that Obama “did the right thing.”
Note: Saddam killed a estimated one million Iraqis
And the Hypocrite-in-Chief
Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power…. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.
But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors…and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.
The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
No system of government can or should be imposed by one nation by any other.
The good news for Democrats is that they’re not alone.
Obama is committed to partnering with other countries rather than going it alone as did his predecessor George W. Bush, which both broadens and complicates the decision-making process.
Fact: Bush Had 2 Times More Coalition Partners in Iraq Than Obama Has in Libya
But Al-Reutzeera finally did define the Obama doctrine;
Stung by accusations that it has sent mixed messages on Middle East events, the White House has said it is putting together a new, overarching strategy that will set out basic principles of U.S. policy toward the region.
In other words, the Obama Doctrine can be described this way:
Ready, Fire, Aim.
If hypocrisy was a crime we’d be bombing Reuters, the White House and the DNC headquarters instead of Libya.
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DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
See how strong the “Big Lies” and propaganda of the Liberal Left Media is “Bush: go it alone” etc
when he had twice as many coalition countries as Obama..
And how somehow liberals think Saddam was some kind of saint.
But, as this video shows, none of this matters to liberals.
Obama is just awesome!
And Bush?…..
Fox Newsinsider on the need for U.S. intervention, February 23.
“Do you think President Obama should send troops into Libya, or at least make it a no-fly zone?” Sarah Palin answers, March 6.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Geez’ Greg, did you even watch the video you linked?
Palin: “We should tell Gadaffi if you harm one hair on the head of an American, we’re going to hit you hard.”
(I understand that this concept is foreign to liberal like you.)
The CNN, Sky News and others were treated to a taste of life in Tripoli today.
A woman got into their hotel public area and started to tell about her arrest and torture and rape by Gaddafi forces.
While being interviewed Gaddafi minders dragged her away, hand over her mouth.
Video and one version of events here.
Nan G… should we even consider the notion that it might all be a stage play for the cameras and press? Not to say that Gaddafi supporters aren’t capable of that, but then I’m also quite sure that the opposition is just as adept at staging plays for the media as well.
I’m always suspicious of these “human interest” individual stories. It’s a he said/she said situation. And both sides have an agenda. Some things that leap at me…
1: She was helpless… detained, held hostage for days and raped. Yet she “escaped” and managed to find her way to the limited hotels that contain western journalists unharmed?
2: Do you think the opposition rebels have managed to confiscate any uniforms to play the part in hauling her away?
3: The Gaddafi forces are a bit busy at the moment, what with opposition attempting to close in and dodging coalition bombs. Think this stuff is high on their list?
The story could be true. Then again, I’m not inclined to give it the nod and stamp of truth. While there may be some freedom loving Libyans out in those crowds, I more likely to believe the same thing I repeatedly said about Egypt… there were no “good guys” in the fight. Just bad guys, trying to change the balance of power, and each using whatever tricks were at their disposal. For Gaddafi, it’s military might. For the rebels, it’s the media propaganda.
Seems they are having that moment Forrest Gump so eloquently refers to. Stupid is as Stupid does. These people are incredible. But then again, the left wing, demcom mentality is at the fore in every one of these statements.
Makes me glad I have been retired from active duty for almost 18 years. I could get in trouble in today’s Navy for making comments about each and every one of them. Sorry but my Navy no longer exists. It has become a cartoon character social experiment in political correctness.
I have seen kindergartners with more practical sense than any of these idiots. And I have two three year old granddaughters with more on the ball!
Almost forgot, the bullshit meter is pegged when any one of these so called intelligent folks open their mouths.
Here’s a good one. Today I was talking to a dem who claims to be an independent. He never met a social program he didn’t like. He seems to oppose the military and probably thinks we should defund it and spend all the money on social programs. He complained about us being involved in Lybia. He never mentioned Obama’s name. Who did he complain about with regards to our involvement? Newt Gingrich. It must be something in the water.
To another vet, I have relatives like that. I kid you not. And a large proportion of my HS classmates from 1972 in a railroad town. I am the oddball. I am the only one of 261 who made the Armed Forces a career. Kind of puts me on the outs with most of them. Actually more of the gals would talk to me after I retired than the guys. It has been a democrap disease since even then. And we are the last ones to have to play that selective service lottery, the class of 1972, that is.
In a way it is easier for them to blame the republican presidents due to the perceived oppressor of the “downtrodden” line of thought.
They will never change and our only hope is to defeat them with logical discussion. But then again, they can’t stand that as it undermines the non-existant wrongs committed by the Right.
How am I doing with this one?
@ORPO1: You are 100% on the money. It has to be years of indoctrination, ignorance and I don’t mean that in a negative sense just that they don’t have the facts they think they do to make an informed opinion, or it’s something in the water. Just out of curiosity, what state are you from?
@John Cooper: This can only happen if the President has demonstrated that he will do what he says. Then, he can walk or talk softly, but use his big stick. In this case, we only heard a low meow!
You are SO cynical, Mata!
There was some dispute as to whether the woman was able to escape or, after two days, was released.
BUT…..authorities first told journalists she was deranged then they changed that story to admit her story was being given credence and were looking for the perpetrators.
And that she definitely was not insane.
Her name was Eman al-Obeidy.
She speaks English.
You are so cynical, Mata!
Even the Libyan ”minders” and their gov’t officials now admit putting credence to her story.
Now now, Nan G. First I’m Pollyanna to you. Now I’m cynical? LOL Well, it’s a new day, a new label. I’ll be collecting them here, I see.
If you’ll notice very carefully, I did not dispute that the Gaddafi forces are more than capable of this.
I also recognize that the opposition is entirely capable of what I suggested.
That means I certainly didn’t make a definitive statement on her story as true or false. Nor did I throw support to Gaddafi’s side. Scum on both, IMHO.
Apparently I have more distrust of the media, and the players in this publicly broadcasted and fought civil war than you. I’m not apt to quickly accept media presentation at face value when I see the convenience and timing of the story. After all, the opposition so desperately needs the media to keep waivering American support and approval to keep the coalition military fighting their civil war for them. And what better way to capture the west’s heart than for a helpless woman, detained and brutalized, escaping/released and heading directly to the media to broadcast her story of Gaddafi brutality to the free world?
But now you let us know that CNN reports that the government – who’s very soldiers violated her – is now offering legal aid, and allowing her to bring criminal charges against the attackers. Well don’t that throw a monkey wrench into the political implications. It’s now down to some bad apples soldiers?
But then, maybe it was an attempt at a coup, and was met with a counter coup. One side tried to portray the government as brutal, and the government defused that story by helping her seek “justice”. It’s now a single, individual criminal case in the middle of a controversial civil war.
Call me crazy, but were I detained for days, and raped and generally traumatized, I don’t think heading to a hotel to talk to the press would be my first stop once I got away or was released. Think I’d be headed home to family and friends after that experience. Any word on just why that particular woman happened to be detained when going thru checkpoints? Or didn’t anyone ask?
Meanwhile, those ”rebels” we appear to be helping are committing atrocities.
It is Arab vs Black African murder.
In east Libya, as towns and cities began fall under the control of Libyan rebels, they started to detain, insult, rape and even execute black immigrants, students and refugees.
In the past two weeks, more than 100 Africans from various Sub-Sahara states are believed to have been killed by Libyan rebels and their supporters.
According to Somali refugees in Libya, at least five Somalis from Somaliland and Somalia were executed in Tripoli and Benghazi by anti-Gaddafi mobs. Dozens of refugees and immigrants workers from Ethiopia, Eritrea, Ghana, Nigeria, Chad, Mali and Niger have been killed, some of them were led into the desert and stabbed to death.
Their only crime was being black and therefore treated as “mercenaries” of Gaddafi.
An xenophobic attitude towards these refugees and labourers has existed for years.
Gaddafi and his inner circle preferred black Africans and Libyans from the south over Libyans from the east.
Now the angry mobs using the revolutionary movement across Arabia and North Africa are hunting down black people.
PINCH OF SALT …. Consider the source...Somaliland Press
@MataHarley, #10:
Why would it be a surprise that it should be high on the list? Libya has been a police state for years. The more threatened a dictator feels, the more active and reactionary the apparatus of oppression become.
It seems unlikely that Gaddafi’s opponents could have staged so public an abduction without interference. I’m sure any areas having a concentration of foreign journalists are being tightly controlled by Gaddafi’s people.
Greg, Greg… we do have to move slow for you, don’t we.
Gaddafi’s opponents don’t need to stage a public “abduction” at all. They merely need to make sure she has the needed wounds to back up her story, and send her in…. followed by rebels in Gaddafi uniforms to take her away while covering her mouth to prevent her from “speaking”. How would all those soldiers recognize that those dressed up in uniforms aren’t one of their own?
Think about that for a minute. If they were so all fired worried about her speaking to the journalists, how do you think she walked thru an area you believe is tightly controlled by Gaddafi forces without a problem in the first place?
But now, you see, it’s a moot point. You didn’t read the latest? Apparently it’s bad apples in the Gaddafi forces, since the government is providing legal aid and having her press charges. There goes the political talking points. It can’t be a claim on the rebels side it’s the Gaddafi government, since the government is helping her achieve justice.
@MataHarley:
Maybe you just ignore media reports, Mata.
Yes…..
Asked AND answered.
This woman’s name is from the area of the rebel stronghold, Benghazi.
And, in truth, the woman, Eman al-Obeidy, is a native from Banghazi.
Who knows how long she’s lived in Tripoli?
She sure was treated like an enemy.
Odd that you swallow the official story given to the journalists from the ”minders” and Gaddafi spokesmen, Mata.
Just because they SAY she is safe and going to be allowed to charge her attackers doesn’t really mean it is true.
She may be ”honor murdered” as a rape victim before that.
They were actively looking for her male ”owners,” a husband, father, brothers.
We don’t know.
But we did see minders battle jouralists, even pulling a gun on them, ruining camerals and roughly spiriting the woman away, didn’t we?
(You did check out the video on CNN, right?)
From the Telegraph, UK?)
Oh Nan, do read read carefully. I took no one’s side. Quite difficult to “swallow” the official story since I don’t trust either side. That was your bit. Not mine.
If you haven’t figured it out by now, I wait quite a while before I jump on news… as time has proven over and over that usually the first account bears little resemblence to reality. I’m sure not sold on the genuine intents of the rebel forces in Libya. Apparently you are. And I don’t think only men fight that battle.
You say she is from a rebel stronghold. Is she suspected of being part of the rebel forces, and that’s why detained? And if so, upon “release” or “escape”, why would they allow her to go directly to the western press… walking thru an area that Greg believes is closely monitored and controlled by the very forces who wouldn’t want her talking to them?
And you don’t believe such a scene as pulling guns, ruining cameras and roughly spiriting the woman away cannot be staged? Dang… alert Hollywood.
What do we know? Actually, when you get down to it… not much. Probably more questions than answers. But I’ll tell you what. They certainly know how to push western women’s buttons, don’t they? As the final line in the CNN story says:
@Greg:
Greg, no way all of Gaddafi’s MINDERS were so into the plot.
Right?
It was MINDERS who these journalists know well who pulled the coat over her head, who pulled the gun on the journalists, who wrecked one of the cameras.
Then these Gaddafi MINDERS put her into a car full of the enemy dressed in costumes.
/off.
@MataHarley:
Wow!
And here I thought that 24 hour rule only applied to obvious disinformation campaigns, like DEBKA file.
Not the CNN and Sky news reporters who got the gun in their faces from a minder they knew!
And you deny the idea that you’re cynical?
Maybe skeptical is a better choice of word.
The Aussie news says:
Also:
And:
Oh, and as for the rebels pretending to be Gaddafi supporters in fake uniforms……
Fianlly, who was in on it?
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/minders-silence-libyan-woman/story-fn6sb9br-1226028801223#ixzz1HmEHr7FY
I’ll take skeptical as an accurate description, Nan G.
I will also say that I don’t concern myself with any individuals in Libya because I don’t believe we have any business getting in the middle of a civil war, and I have not an iota of faith in the “rebel intents”. I think I’ve repeatedly said, it’s bad guys on both sides as far as I can see. I have no clue who this woman is. I don’t know her past, her intents, her alliances. Women are quite active in jihad movements as well. I find her choice of actions following what should be a very traumatic experience quite bizarre.
But I’m not going to get caught up in her individual story and make it “the face” of the Libyan rebellion. You want my attentions, make it about an American woman in our country, with our officials. Theirs? Just one more story. Middle East conditions for most are oppressive. Much as I feel for those that live there, I try not to project my prism of perspectives to them, and I don’t feel it’s America’s place to tell other nations what to do and how to do it.
That story was for strictly to boost a political agenda…. note the last CNN paragraph and statement about “protecting” Libyans. It was written to tug at the heartstrings of Americans because obviously support for this BS is waivering. And I don’t let the media agenda lead me around by the nose. I’m quite sorry for all that get in the middle of conflicts, but I don’t assume only the innocents are victims. We’ll be expecting the predictable next – children killed by Gaddafi forces. Quite sad. But then, where’s the no fly zone for Sudan to protect Darfur?
This is a hornets nest willingly opened by this admin and the UN. I do not go along willingly, and my mind isn’t going to change with every sad story the media paints.
Geese and ganders flock together, what’s good for one is good for either. When the GOP props up people like Romney as a conservative, there is hypocrisy a plenty. . . on both sides. At least the dems don’t claim to be conservative, hell, Hussein doesn’t even feign patriotism when the national anthem plays.
In case you needed a little more hypocrisy with your breakfast:
Linked by Doug Ross. Thanks, Doug!
Tirade time folks! Between this administration and the entrenched political scum of both parties, the hypocrisy and lies are nothing new, just SOP!
One must realize once and for all, this administration cannot be defined by hypocrisy! I have used the following more than once and of course have been taken to task by the ignoramuses who have their heads so far up their you know what’s that they refuse to recognize exactly what is going on with the scum in D.C. and their open disdain as to the intelligence of the electorate, something I might add has been well earned by the voters when one sees the morons they continue to vote into office!! And as to the Hitler referral, I mean it exactly as I say it. I’m tired of people whining about how it’s so bad to liken this clown to Hitler, Lenin or any other tin horn moronic despot, but the fact are the facts and the shoe fits!
Who made the following quotes? “How fortunate for governments that people they administer don’t think. The broad masses of a population are more amendable to the appeal of Rhetoric than any other force. Make the lie Big. Make it Simple, and eventually they will believe it.” The answer: ADOLF HITLER . ” Lies, Lies and more Lies! That’s all the Left has as ammunition (I purposely used that term just to tick off you libbies out there).
I have also in the past mentioned the fact that this administration, in classic Marxist/Leninist/ Goebel’s propaganda style are trying their utmost best to implement Newspeak (ex: Kinetic Military Action) as practiced in the novel “1984” The excerpt below is a perfect representation of this President, his administration and the lying pack of jackals not only in the media but on both sides of the aisle.
“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself — that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.” – from George Orwell’s 1984
One must hope that the electorate has come to their senses. If we are in fact dumbed down to the point that we will listen to and believe the ”Doublethink” and the “Newspeak” as practiced in the media and by politicians today, our country is already lost!
And another:
Obama called them “peaceful protesters” and “civilians.”
Go here to see those peaceful civilians.
I know I am going to see some comments about this but that’s NOT the issue here. The question is why is Obama mislabeling these rebel fighters? Why isn’t he calling them what they are? If this is all so righteous why does he need to lie about them?
@DrJohn:
Good point, DrJohn.
And this morning I am reading that Obama has weighed in on the transition of power in Cote d’Ivoire!
Talk about picking a fight where we have no dog in the hunt!
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/03/obama-urges-ivory-coast-president-to-cede-power/1
Edited to add:
A Catholic was president.
A Muslim was elected.
But the country is only 38% Muslim.
And fraud has been alledged.
BUT Obama wants the change over NOW!
Another time Obama sides with Islam.
Screw the legal challenges to the election’s honesty.
“Days, not weeks”
Did I say days? I meant months.
Dr. J. Looking for comment? Thought you might post the friendly Col.’s daily allied caused civilian casualty report.
@rich wheeler: Rich,
I hope you overcome the self-loathing, but you Obama guys do have a lot to answer for.
Think of these comments as updates to the post. This post may not end until Obama is no longer President. Until then I am going to have no end to material.
Dr J. “self loathing”. Actually I’m probably a bit too narcissistic.But I’m off to Church and will say a prayer I may find greater humility as well as compassion and understanding for the extreme right wacko’s living among us.
Have a blessed Sunday Herr Doctor
@rich wheeler:
I am wondering why you would refer to some of us as extreme? It seems to me that Dr.J points out relevant info, regardless of his personal stance on the actions in Libya, and shows the hypocrisy of the left in what they said prior to and after the start of the war in Iraq and what they are doing now.
For me personally, if presented with evidence showing the hypocrisy of someone I am acquainted with, or admire, I will start to question everything about that person instead of doing like you are and supporting them contrary to the evidence presented. Are you a hypocrite yourself?
@rich wheeler: I hope you have a nice day.
Really. 🙂
@johngalt: Indeed, John. Rather than address the issues, attack the messenger. I think Rich knows this issue is lost.
John G. Thanks for your comments. I’ ve stated previously my belief BHO should have been on board sooner. I am not in lockstep with all he does.
I do believe Dr. J’ s Personal animosity towards BHO severely impedes his ability to be objective.
Dr. J. Please tell me what issue is lost? I’ll respond after Church.
@rich wheeler:
Hypocrisy, Rich. The sheer, brutal hypocrisy.
And if promising to reign in an out-of-control Federal government and not following through with said campaign promise was a crime the Republicans would also be taken out and you-know-what.
Ivan– You may have a point with regards to what seems to be back-pedaling by the Republicans on the budget. Rand Paul seems to be the only one with a serious plan to balance it. Of course, the Dems are just lying in wait to pounce on the Republicans so in a way their cowardice is understandable.
OTOH, let’s not forget that America is in this financial fix because of the Democrats.
John Cooper said:
I may have a point? I MAY have a point? I don’t know if you read the constitution, but the Republicans own this fiscal mess. No one else, Cooper.
Leave the Dems out of this mess. Yes, they screwed it up big time, but you know what? They don’t hold the purse-strings any more, the Republicans do and they will sell America out to the speical interests just like Pelosi did. And Gingrich did. And Boehner is doing.
And your “desire” to “Understand the ‘cowardice'” of the Republicans is laughable. Sounds like you’ve got your excuse for their continued big-government spending all nicely wrapped up in a tight little bow. “But the Dems will attack them!” BFD, let them attack all day long. We elected them to stop this fiscal nightmare, not drop to their knees and service the lobbyists.
SHILL ALERT! SHILL ALERT!!! SHAMELESS REPUBLICAN HACK/SHILL ALERT.
Dude, give it a rest with the “Democrats Bad-Republicans Good” Bullshit. The Republicans had the House from 1995 till 2006 and what the hell happened with spending? Hmmm???? Oh you don’t want to talk about that now, do you?
And let’s not forget that idiot Bush and his MASSIVE expanision of medicare back in 2004. The awesome Republican Party should have dumped his big-spending ass right then and there, but no, they just dropped to their knees and said,”WE LOVE YOU.”
And then there is the fiasco with Fannie and Freddy Mae. Bush just sat back and watched F/F oversee home loans to illegal aliens and the rest. Dear God, give me strength!
But go ahead and beleive all your propaganda about how fiscally responsible the Republicans have been. Go ahead and believe that they’ll balance the budget, like they promised.
What a ****ing joke.
Reminder to self: Don’t try to initiate an intelligent conversation with a troll.
John Cooper says “otoh,lets not forget America is in this financial fix because of the Democrats.”
You call that “initiating intelligent conversation?” On what planet?
@DrJohn:
What I’d like to know is how do such ‘peaceful civilians’ get so many ‘big guns’ , rocket launchers, and tons of ammo? Who is supplying them?
The Hypocrisy is truly stunning. From all the ‘forms’ of (the left) Democrats. What comes to mind is two words ‘Character Defect’ we all have them but, the Left/Progressives/Liberals/Democrats is the epicenter for Character Defects ‘Moral decay’ = (major) ‘Character Defects’ …
@Ivan: Ivan
What was the national debt when Democrats took the Congress in 2007 and what is it now?
Or, if you prefer, the deficit?
FOOD FIGHT!!!
rich wheeler: I don’t make intelligent conversation about the budget with those who flunked math, either.
Questions to ponder. If BHO is a hypocrite for nay on Iraq and yea on Libya what are those who say yea on Iraq and nay on Libya?
What to do with those who promote Gadhafi’s(props to me for not calling him a genocidal maniac) statements as the God’s truth merely to make America’s President look bad? Is there a place in hades for such folk?
Dr. John said:
You don’t get it, do you? All you see is “blame” and the American public is sick of your finger-pointing. But you can’t see anything other than “Republicans Good! Democrats Bad!” right?
Obviously, you’re very smart, in an academic way. You have your charts, your red-line showing Republican budget surpluses and Democratic blue-lines showing GDP decreases…but you don’t get it.
I dare you to take your academic speak to all those towns in Michgan and Ohio which have been ENVICERATED by these moronic REPUBLICAN SPONSORED free-trade agreements and drone on all day about these people are on the dole due to the EPA or Union thugs-true to a lesser extent-when in fact it was the traitorous free trade agreements which shipped their job to Mexico or Asia.
They’d eat you alive. Probably within 1 hour of your little lecture on a street corner you’d be hog-tied and driven out to the nearest city dump and put in the farthest corner of the stinking rat hole.
So go back to your RNC boiler-room with your RNC talking points and talk among yourselves about how awful Nancy Pelsoi was and how great John “Cry Baby” Boenher is. The rest of the nation is sick of guys like you and yours.
John Cooper says: 42
Dude, I just destroyed you and that is your retort? What a pany-waist. I see you’re not used to people tolerating your neo-con rubbish and for the life of you you’re speech-less.
Typical shill, typical hack. Guys like you and your shillling ruined my Republican Party and turned it into a Democratic-lite replica.
What wuss.
@Ivan:
Forgive me, Ivan but you’re full of crap.
As my kids went through school they were bombarded with bullsh*t about them being prepared for the “global economy” by idiot liberal educators. I knew this was a load of crap and made sure my kids knew it.
Well, cupcake, you’ve got your global economy
What do “progressives” demand??
“Higher wages”
“Better jobs”
“Liberating work”
“Empowered individuals”
Barf
Of course these are inherent with a socialist state, but moronic liberals never quite grasp that. Neither do they understand the basics of economy and of business. If you haven’t run your own business you have no idea what it takes. None.
You “progressives” wanted a global economy. You just want the same benefits and salaries you get while competing with Chinese workers making $1.30 an hour. The average hourly cost in the US is $32 an hour. Now you want business owners to eat the difference.
You guys shop at Walmart. All union members shop at Walmart. They whine about their “rights” and they buy Chinese good because they’re CHEAPER. No matter how you analyze this dilemma, it always comes down to self-interests primarily of democrats. If you all stopped buying Chinese tomorrow it would go a long way to leveling the playing field but your ilk is far too selfish to do that. You whine but you’ll take none of the appropriate and effective actions other than to protest and occupy state capitols and cry about your “rights.”
The Constitution guarantees you the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Got that? The PURSUIT of happiness. Not the guarantee.
You sissy liberals want a guarantee.
Life don’t work that way.
I own a couple of businesses and they are successful. I doubt you would have the first idea how to start and run one. It’s not just academic with me, Ivan. I walk the walk.
@Ivan: Michigan got itself absolutely screwed because Detroit put out crap and the world learned to do better. Japanese cars were once a joke and no one would even have looked twice at a Korean car.
I bought a 1997 Suburban and by the time I was done with it seven years I had replaced the water pump, air conditioning compressor, transmission, radiator, power steering pump and more. I bought a 2004 Sequoia and it’s been bulletproof.
GM should have been allowed to die. Unions killed it. The best US car companies are non-union and it’s pissing unions off no end. All unions ever do is guarantee mediocrity. GM will fail again, and they still owe us $50 billion that we’ll never see.
That’s Obama’s idea of a success.
DrJohn says: 53
No argument from me here! I’m all for busting and destroying unions.
Your bad! You bought GM. GM has always made an inferior product in my lifetime.
Unions did kill it…along with free trade. Notice how you constantly leave that out of your discussion? I do, and others as well. Tell me, “Doctor”, how is it that prior to free trade, Detroit THRIVED in the 1980s? We all saw what crap they made in the 70s, yet somehow they were able to turn it around and have a great decade. Hmmmm……care to have at it, “Doctor”?
Again, more academic bullshit brought to you by the RNC hack. I guess you were a little boy and can’t remember when GM and Chrysler were teetering on bankruptcy back in December of ’08? Oh yeah, that would be under GEORGE W. BUSH.
Dr. John, the crap piles up so fast with your posts you got to have wings to stay above it.
@Ivan:
drjohn: Why would it matter under what President unions ruined GM?
Ivan: Because I hate George Bush and Obama is awesome.
drjohn: Did you ask me if I supported any bailout?
Ivan: Why, no I did not! Did you support it ever?
drjohn: No, I did not. BTW, Ivan, do you know who structured the bailout of GM and Chrysler?
Ivan: George Bush. Barack Obama is awesome.
So Obama took that irresponsibly large debt and gave it to us and our kids.