Why you’re an idiot to believe anything Barack Obama says [Reader Post]

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Jim Geraghty said that all of Barack Obama’s statements come with an expiration date, and frequent readers of FA know I cite that all the time. Truer words were arguably never written. There is simply no question that Obama is an inherently dishonest man and events prove it time and time again. In a previous post it was shown that Senator Obama would have sought the impeachment of President Obama. This could be called Part II but it’s more than that. It just keeps getting worse.

Our Libyan mission is limited

Obama outlines limited U.S. role in Libya intervention

Obama told Congressional leaders that “he had not authorized troops on the ground or airplanes,” a staffer to one of the Congress members briefed Friday said on condition of anonymity. “He stressed the U.S. is diplomatically supporting the no-fly zone, not the enforcement itself.”

Obama stresses limited role as air strikes start

U.S. forces joined those of four other countries in launching strikes against Libya on Saturday and President Barack Obama insisted U.S. involvement was limited and only in support of an international effort.

Diplomatic only? No airplanes?

Storied B2 bomber launched first salvos in Libya

The world’s most expensive warplane rarely leaves its climate-controlled hangar but when it does, the B2 bomber makes a spectacularly effective start to a war — including during this weekend’s attack on Libya’s air defenses.

Limited?

Obama vows U.S. role in Libya will be limited

Obama’s comments, a day after the U.N. Security Council authorized Great Britain and France to launch airstrikes to protect civilians and enforce a no-fly zone over Libya, signaled a circumscribed U.S. role in the troubled North African nation and came after a meeting with members of Congress, some of whom have voiced reservations about U.S. involvement.

And?

Allies Expand Libya Military Campaign, Debate Command

Allied forces expanded their air campaign over Libya to thwart Muammar Qaddafi’s fighters and enable rebels to regain control of cities, as leaders debated who should be in overall control of the operation.

We’re not after Gaddafi

Mullen: Libyan mission is not designed to remove Gadhafi

President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, and other U.S. officials have called for an end to the Gadhafi government, but that is not the goal of the coalition mission.


U.S. insists “we’re not hunting Qaddafi”

U.S.: Gaddafi not target of allied military action

Allied military action in Libya is aimed at protecting civilians, not targeting Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, a senior White House official said on Monday.

That also didn’t last long

Coalition targets Gadhafi compound

A coalition military official confirmed to CNN that the compound was targeted because it contains capabilities to exercise command and control over Libyan forces. The coalition’s goal is to degrade Gadhafi’s military capabilities.

The official, who was not identified because of the sensitivity of the information, insisted that neither Gadhafi nor his residence was the intended target. The leader’s whereabouts were not known.

Gaddafi’s compound was bombed because he was not a target.

Gaddafi’s complex bombed again

Muammar Gaddafi’s Tripoli compound was rocked by blasts for a second night, his southern strongholds targeted and a navy base bombed as international criticism mounted over the air assault on Libya.

We won’t impose

Obama told the BBC

“But, rather what I believe to be universal principles that they can embrace and affirm as part of their national identity, the danger, I think, is when the United States, or any country, thinks that we can simply impose these values on another country with a different history and a different culture.

In his Cairo speech:

“No system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.”

Now?

White House aims to ‘install’ democracy in Libya

The White House is shifting toward the more aggressive goal in Libya of ousting President Moammar Gadhafi and “installing a democratic system,” actions that fall outside the United Nations Security Council resolution under which an international coalition is now acting, according to a conversation between President Obama and Turkey’s prime minister.

Gaddafi must go

Then

‘I have stated that it is US policy that Gaddafi needs to go.’

Then (a clear signal the no-fly zone effort is going to fall apart or fail)

Obama says Qadhafi could stay

President Obama indicated on Tuesday that Muammar Qadhafi may still have an opportunity to “change his approach” and put in place “significant reforms” in the Libyan government.

Now?


White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission

The White House strongly denied Tuesday that regime change is part of its mission in Libya, despite a statement earlier in the day that characterized the goal there as “installing a democratic system.”

Obama administration struggles to define American mission in Libya

The Obama administration scrambled to define the U.S. mission in Libya on Tuesday amid congressional criticism that it has not clearly explained its endgame for the war-torn country.

The White House strongly denied that regime change is part of its mission after a statement earlier in the day characterized the goal there as “installing a democratic system.”

A look back

“I will only send you into harm’s way when it is absolutely necessary, and with the strategy, the well-defined goals, the equipment and the support you need to get the job done,”

No boots on the ground

Don’t let it slip your mind that Obama promised us this:

“As I said yesterday, we will not – I repeat – we will not deploy any US troops on the ground,” Obama said.

But I just saw this:

We’ve seen Camp Lejuene marines in Iraq and Afghanistan and now they are joining the fight against Libya. 2200 marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, or 26th MEU will take part. Their mission is to help end the violence directed at the Libyan people.

D’oh!

We’ll see if that actually translates into boots on the ground, but given the deception thus far it would not surprise me one bit since it’s quite the task to protect civilians on the ground with bombs from the air.

There is a story underneath all of these reports and that story is the persistent pattern of deceit and dishonesty on the part of Barack Obama. He apparently lied to Congressional leaders as well as the entire country right from the beginning of this operation. And the lies keep coming. It is entirely reasonable to assert that whatever Barack Obama says, it will be false. It is entirely reasonable to assert that one can count on the exact opposite occurring.

You are an idiot if you take him at his word.

Ever.

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Dr. John,

His actions and words stand on their own. Personally, I think your headline was too soft. Not only can one not believe a word he says, but we are now in a state where we must fear for the future of our country as we know it. The man is single handedly forcing us into third world Marxist/Socialist standing and what ever one wants to think, it is proven by his words, actions and his ideology. As always in is the case in the past, outright lies are just part of the agenda.

I refer as I did in an earlier post to Alan Caruba’s great post, “Obama, Red As It Gets” at Warning Signs: http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com

This isn’t just about outright hypocrisy and lies anymore (in fact we should never have gotten to this juncture). It’s not just about Libya or Iraq or for that matter the Ant-Semite leanings of the man! It’s about the very survival of our country, the “Great Experiment” as I believe Ben Franklin called it (Might be wrong on Franklin, but I don’t think so). We are on a precipice as a nation. We are bankrupt. We have no leadership (this man is a follower). And worse of all, we have politicians on both sides with their heads in the sand ignoring the obvious (I’m being nice here for a change). Believe him? Fat chance of that! However, it must be noted. The fault lies with the citizenry of this country, those who choose to believe the lies and think they get a free ride. citizenship is work and unfortunately as in past Socialist dictatorship experiments, the people want the lie and refuse to acknowledge the truth until it’s all taken away from them. And let’s not let the MSM off the hook. After all, they are the propaganda arm for Comrade Obama! Seeing it appears we really don’t have a free press anymore on the whole, there is no other watchdog other than the bloggers and the very few news sources that have the balls to stand up to the lies and tyranny that is coming form this administration. Sadly, our President cannot and must not be believed. However, the same goes for the majority of the elected scum in D.C. Cutting the head off the snake (defeating Obama for those who are to ideologically challenged to understand the term) in this case probably isn’t enough. The cancer is deep rooted into D.C. now and for that matter society.

JOETOTE It was Thomas Jefferson who called America ‘”The Great Experiment.”
If that’s being nice I’d hate to see you upset.lol

Tom#50 Pointing out Dr.J. has been known to flip flop.Priceless

Mata#49 Thanks for updating Dr.J. on BHO’s call for regime change in Libya.

rich wheeler,

Thanks for the clarification. I knew it was one of them, but still in my morning fog. And yes, that was nice for me as I’m usually always upset these days. LOL!

So far has this endeavor been well thought out or communicated? No. Will the military accomplish its mission whatever that is? Yes, and will do so admirably. Is Qaddafi a bigger threat than Hussein was? Not even close. Are people who support this mission on humanitarian grounds or whatever but did not support Iraq guilty of hypocrisy? Yes. Should we be involved in his civil war? No.

Here is one aspect of this that seems not to be addressed. Pan Am Flight 103. 190 Americans were killed. He let the bomber back into his country. His former Justice Minister says he has proof Qaddafi was behind it. It could be B.S. just to prop himself up. It’s kind of hard not to believe that Qaddafi either ordered or sponsored the attack. If we have evidence to that effect, he needs to die. Because it happened 23 years ago is of no consequence. It would be like saying we shouldn’t kill OBL because 9/11 was 10 years ago. It will send a message that if you kill Americans you’ll be looking over your shoulder the rest of your life and eventually you’ll pay the price. As for worrying about assassinations of foreign leaders, we have tried it before. Qaddafi is in charge of Lybia and in command of his forces. Technically everywhere he goes is a command center. If we target his command center and he happens to be there when a cruise missile or a bomb hits it, sucks to be him. If we send in Delta Force to capture him to stand trial and in an ensuing gun battle he happens to get in the way of a bunch of 5.56 rounds, sucks to be him. Bottom line, if he is any way, shape, or form connected to Pan Am Flight 103 he needs to die. No exile. No trial.

Even Obama’s own Administration has a hard time defending or even explaining Obama’s actions RE: Libya.
Just yesterday I heard someone call it a ”kinetic military action” (deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes).
LOL!
Really?
What does it mean for 2012?
There are new piles of liberals who naturally voted for Obama in 2008 but who say Obama is NOT the guy they thought he was.
Will they hold their noses and vote Obama again?
Or will they put up a credible challenger to Obama?
Then there are all those independents who put Obama over the top in 2008.
They look at this and see, added to so much else, that Obama is in way over his head.
And Obama does NOT seem to be doing much learning while on the job, either!
He’d rather play.
Will they vote for Obama again?

One other point: Obama pinned so much on our economy improving.
But all measures of the economy show a double-dip recession in the works.
He claims millions of saved and created jobs, while we see none of it.
He claims going green will save us.
But all we see is higher gas and food prices from his choke hold on fossil fuels.

He might be able to turn one thing around by 2012, but one thing will not be enough.
So, he will most likely resort to lies.
Like the lies he told about ObamaCare.
The lies he told about jobs.

Don’t let his October Surprise fool you.

@DrJohn:

As you called me a liar, could you please so kind as to show me where I wrote that Obama takes his orders from Gaddafi?

Not true. I merely asked that if you apply the same criteria you apply to Obama to yourself whether that would make you a liar.

Your entire post of March 6th is clearly implying that Obama is beholden to Wright and Farrakhan and that they in turn are beholden to Gadaffi. And this is all provided as a hypothetical reason for Obama’s at-the-time inaction in Libya. The dots aren’t too hard to connect. Did you advance the theory that Gadaffi’s referencing of Obama as a ‘son’ was proof of a mutual connection? Yes, you did. Did you specifically say “Obama takes his marching orders from Gadaffi”? No, you did not. I guess you could say I inferred it. If you’re willing to stick to hard facts regarding Obama and not just throw out theories based on inferences, I’d be happy to apply to same criteria to you.

Do you think a lot of liberals don’t have legitimate doubts about Obama’s involvement in this war?

I missed out on this very interesting post, to my regret. Yup, Dr. John, Hotair, Hannity, and Mark Levin have already debunked the Gorelick FBI Director Fiasco. This corrupt insider sycophant should be in front of a grand jury.
On Levin’s show last night, Rumsfeld explained the situation. You don’t build a gong show and go to the party. You plan to see what’s needed and build your coalition. In the first Gulf War, Schwartzkopf had De billiers and Prince Saud in on the planning. Bush senior, Powell and the evil Dick Cheney built the coalition.
The precedent, this time says, “Blame It On Rio”.

Dr John Evidence sir,documentation,corroborating links that Obama is Kadhafi’s son; hour and minute of conception.The Bedouin harlots name and measurements. EXACT lines of seduction the Col. employed.Name and location of the tent in whick baby Barack was born.THE TRUTH GOOD DR.

@rich wheeler:
That’s the funniest thing since the Sunday Funnies here.
Thanks for the laugh.

Dr. J. Kenya ofcourse his place of birth. Muslim his religion.Communist his Party.The truth will out Herr Dr. if you continue your tireless search.How many civilians did the coalition kill today according to your buddy Col. G.?

Exit question Did you ever live in Brazil?

@rich wheeler: 🙂

Dr John If you have no response to my #70 please give corroborating evidence for your assertion in #73. Thanks RW

Dr. J. In post #73 you said “Everyone KNOWS he was born in Kenya.” A poor attempt at levity or something you personally believe?

@rich wheeler: That was levity, Rich. I thought you would get it since it followed Nan’s comment of the frivolities.

Now please tell us why you want to know which Gaddafi harlot in Libya bore Obama.

#70 Levity as well good Dr. Nice we can agree BHO a Democrat, a Christian and an American citizen born in the great state of Hawaii.

@Tom:
Stay on subject. We are discussing the prevarications of Obama, not Gingrich (who cares a hoot about Gingrich anyway? He’s a hack that will never get the Republican nomination. It’s like discussing what Tom Daschel had to say.) When someone claims “We are going to do ‘A’ and not do ‘B'” and then does ‘B’, well maybe where you come from it’s a ‘change in position’, but where I come from that’s a lie.

“I don’t care, Obama is awesome”

A simulated water cooler conversation with an Obama supporter. Any similarities to leftists near you, especially religious progressives, are intentional and deliberate:

NanG It’s Sun. morning and I’m heading to Church (Methodist). I’d never heard the term “religious progressives” so I googled it. Progressive Christianity
“care for the poor and oppressed and environmental stewardship of the Earth.”
“love one another within the teaching of Jesus Christ.Focus on compassion,justice,and mercy”

I can only aspire to such worthy teachings. Thanks Have a blessed day.

NanG Thanks again.

Dr. J. Just another birther. Why would any here who believe BHO born in Hawaii give credence to your posits?

@rich wheeler:

And what say you to the states that have passed, or will pass, more stringent “proof of birth” citizenship laws in order for a candidate to be placed on the presidential election ballot? Are they “birthers” as well?

@rich wheeler: Rich, I hope you stay with us. You’re just too much fun.

Dr. J. No worries. I’m having a ball.
J.G. States can pass whatever they want.What’s that got to do with whether BHO was born in Hawaii?
Again, as on the Libyan question,I side with Sarah on this issue. She calls it a “distraction.”
I’ll go her one better and say it’s a combination of ignorance,xenophobia and bigotry that drives the birthers.

@rich wheeler:

States can pass whatever they want.What’s that got to do with whether BHO was born in Hawaii?

Hmm. Apparently, anyone who questions Obama’s birth is a “birther”. So will we actually see Obama’s birth certificate this time around? Or will he use his DOJ to sue those states passing the laws, in order to be placed on the ballots by some judge?

I’ll go her one better and say it’s a combination of ignorance,xenophobia and bigotry that drives the birthers.

I don’t know if he was born in the U.S. or not. I just find it kinda funny that liberals were all over McCain for his birth, demanding to see his credentials, yet when conservatives wish the same for Obama, they are met with ridicule. Why is that? Hypocrisy, anyone? It isn’t bigotry that drives it, nor ignorance, nor xenophobia. It is simply a desire to have the man prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, to everyone, that he was born in the U.S. I can produce my birth certificate and prove my citizenship in mere minutes, and sometimes it’s required, as in the case of a driver’s license. Why can’t he? Do you not ever wonder why he hasn’t just shut everyone up about it, and prove those “birthers” wrong, by providing the proof? Or is he just given a pass by you because you are too busy worshiping him, even as the proof of his hypocrisies and lies are mounting up?

Why don’t you explain to us conservatives here why you really support him. Give us a real discussion instead of your simple one sentence comments that have no substance. We would gladly join in the debate, and you know that some of us would even discuss it rationally with you. Please. Give us your insight on Obama and his greatness. We are waiting.

J.G. I ‘m sure you and I can at some point engage in a rational and reasonbly civil debate.
One has only to read the titles of Dr.J’s posts to realize he has lost any right or reason for sane discourse.
Wouldn’t you agree?

@rich wheeler:

One has only to read the titles of Dr.J’s posts to realize he has lost any right or reason for sane discourse.
Wouldn’t you agree?

No, I wouldn’t agree. Is he not in his right to point out the failings of Obama?

John G. REFER to Herr DR.’S closing comment in #94. I rest my case.Do YOU agree with that statement so simply written?

@rich wheeler:

How does that rest your case? Hasn’t Obama been proven to say one thing and do another over the course of his political career?

You must either agree that nothing Obama says is true, or agree that only some things he says are true, or agree that everything he says is true. Which do you agree with?

JohnG. John, now you’re just being silly. Show me a man who says he’s never uttered a fib and I’ll show you a liar. IMO, Obama gets an A in honesty, higher than most but not perfect. Obviously to say he “lies all the time” is a ridiculous statement.

@rich wheeler:
Rich, rich, rich……

Have you ever read the Aesop Fable about ”the boy who cried ‘Wolf?’ ”
The boy made stuff up enough of the time to where no one believed him the one time we know of that he did tell the truth.
The problem with lying isn’t that one does it constantly.
It is that he does it just enough to make you never believe him no matter what.

Obama has been caught in numerous lies since hitting the national stage.
It makes running to check facts after hearing him SOP.

The thread was entitled ”Why you’re an idiot to believe anything Barack Obama says.”
It is true, too.
Everything Obama says must be checked to see if it actually is true.

I can’t believe you don’t realize that.

DR J. To suggest BHO “lies all the time” is pure idiocy.You’re as bad as the Bush bashers. BDS OR ODS both sad maladies.

Drudge? C”mon get a life

NanG. Very familiar with that fable Kid continually lied about a wolf coming after him and people came to save him.When he yalled the truth people didn’t come.Scared the hell out of me.
Good idea to check up on all politicians and salesmen.
Nan It appears you agree Dr.J’s “Obama lies ALL the time” is ,excuse me Herr Dr, a head up one’s derriere statement.
“Lies just enough so you don’t believe anything he says” you’re describing our medicine man.

Dr.J. Thanks for reminding me.It’s time to walk my 2 beautiful Goldens.Truly loving creatures