In this age of public awareness, thanks solely to the information available on the internet, only a fool or a liar tries to assert that the MSM isn’t a quasi- propaganda bureau for the Obama White House; however, if the MSM would have been objective journalists and investigated Obama’s ties with Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the racist Black Liberation preacher who was Obama’s spiritual mentor for twenty years, and the other unsavory characters whose true hatred of America was suppressed by a media that has boasted of its objectivity for decades, Obama would have never been elected.
Here we have the most frequent visitor to the White House, espousing his views on International Socialism:
Now that we realize that we have elected a man whose personal friends want to discard the Constitution and create an American form of Socialism, we are left feeling lost and bewildered; wondering how long the fraud has been perpetrated against the public under the pretense of objectivity, while the majority if not all journalists put their personal political beliefs ahead of their personal obligations to honesty and integrity in being complicit in the election of America’s first Socialist. Liberals only scoff at the concept of an obligation to report news with honesty and integrity, they only owe loyalty to the “Party Line”; journalism is considered an extension of editorial opinion that includes the use of propaganda to report every nuance of news with the maximum political promotion, with no preconceptions or chivalric codes alluding to an honest reporting of the news.
In a rare reference to the Constitution, they cite the First Amendment and the enumerated freedom of the press and maintain that a journalist has the power to write freely as long as they avoid the most outrageous libels. Therefore they answer to no one and have no fiduciary obligation to write the truth. In their opinion, this is an obsolete concept that exists only in our minds, leaving us naively believing in the innate quality of goodness and honesty in our fellow man.
We often cite the silliness of the Utopian Obama Socialists and their willingness to believe any tripe that is passed through the Progressive Socialist Sausage Grinder; yet a slight majority of Americans were willing to drink the Obama swill drawn from his propaganda tap. Unless we can overcome this radical infiltration of our country in November, we will lose this country to to the bizarre Dystopian Dreams of Obama and his radical associates that he barely knows, the guys who just live in his neighborhood.
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About Obama’s links to Jeremiah Wright:
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/i-witnessed-obama-worshiping-at-jeremiah-wrights-church/
About Obama’s (possibly criminal) links to SEIU:
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-57846-Chicago-City-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m7d21-Obama-used-SEIU-official-to-deal-with-Blagojevich-refused-to-disclose-to-feds
The Journolist story is not going to die quietly as there is more to be revealed. The journalistic integrity that leftist journalists claim to have is not present anymore. If it was, Obama would have been run out of the race for President early on. What would be interesting is to know the extent of the collusion among them during the primaries, particularly Obama vs. Hillary. I do not like Hillary Clinton as a politician, and certainly not as the leader of our country, but one has to wonder if she was railroaded to the same extent the GOP was in the general election.
Tucker Carlson defends his honor well in his revealing of the e-mails and throws down the gauntlet to the whining lib journalists who are crying about ‘context’. Here is an excerpt from his recent article:
He rightly denounces their partisanship and obvious politicking for the democrats, especially Obama. In the process of their collusion with one another to coordinate their talking points, and even more insidious, to bury potentially damaging information, they have achieved nothing less than the election of a man who has no business being in the position he is in. Their desire to help elect a democrat to the WH has placed the country in jeopardy of irreparable damage, particularly when you consider the unpopular healthcare bill, and most lasting, his two nominees thus far to the Supreme Court.
If most had done the research about this fraud and usurper-n-theif acting as Commander-n-Cheif, we the People would not be facing the extreme dangers this Republic is currently in. I was almost in shock to see the outcome of the election and still am today regarding the raping our our soverignty, our idenity, our Constitution and financial well being.
As most would understand, we veterans, took a similiar Oath to “protect the Constitution” against all enemies, foreign and domestic. This fraud acting as the CnC has already violated his Oath of Office on too many occasions and has yet to be confronted by either the lame stream mental midgets of the press or Congress. The fact that this fraud was in a direct working inviroments with the likes of Ayers, Dorhn, the Tides Foundation, ACORN etc. should have raised sufficient flags as to who this fraud really was and would have never met the requirements of even applying for the Office of the Presidency, I seriously doubt he would even meet the National Security requirements of any security position let alone the one who has the keys to the most destructive weapons known to man. Add insult to injury, he (the fraud, Oblablabla) even said as much when he proclaimed he has always found confort in running with the extreme crowds in an interivew such as gays, radicals feminist, etc., add to that he was reminded not once but twice of his religion being a Christian, vrs. a muslim by George Stenapolis during an interview and we now have the most unqualified person in any room acting as the President.
I never though the American public would stoop so low as to appoint a person who would just as soon destroy our livelyhood, our way of life, our intregity as a free people and usher in the second coming of a civil war among ourselves. I will admit I was wrong on a huge scale. These people who appointed him are as dangerous to you, me and our country as are the turd world’s leaders such as Chaves. Achmedijad, stalin, moa and the complete list of those who would be known as the destroyers of humanity and countries. But, be rest assured that those of like minded patriotism and love of rcountry, God and our guns have a plan for those of you who voted to kill us all over your need to be a nannny state teet sucker of all things not yours. Be assured it will not go as planned for you and your kind. History when taken in correct context always have the good over evil battle misunderstood as to who were good and who were evil. This time around will be no different, We the People, those of us, who fear our God, cling to our bibles and our guns know how this story ends.
Don’t over-estimate the effect of Journolist, climategate was buried for months and even today moonbatts like Kerry are still pushing cap and trade.
Thinking people see the left for what it is, but they are already conservative. All of the proof of fraud in the world will not change 1% of the left, most of them are irredemable.
Bill Ayers expected to kill millions in creating his Socialist Dream, a Dream Obama shares. Now he writes text books for our children.
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/10/obama-bill-ayers-ayers-wanted-to-kill-25-million-die-hard-capitalists/
Ret.Marine they have forgotten about us;to their folly. I swore that same oath almost 46 years ago and DID NOT forget.
“Semper Fi”
Jim Davis, thank you for your contributions. You were indeed a player in this drama, well done my Patriot friend.
Retired Marine, thank you for your service and your passion. You and millions like you represent a frightening obstacle to Obama and his Socialists and their desire to create a Dystopia and installing themselves as the Elites and us as the powerless slaves. Welcome aboard, there are many of us who are not planning on getting on any of the Obama Freedom Trains.
John Galt, you are burning up the cyber pages, outstanding, outstanding indeed.
Long Live The Republic!
Have to agree with Tom Tancredo that Obama now is more of a threat to the nation than Al-Quida. I also swore that same oath and will not go quietly into the night.
Thank you sooo much for the link!
I’ve heard of Obamaland, but I never knew exactly where it was. It looks like it’s where I would’ve guessd though.
Hugs,
M
@Skook
Thank you for the high praise. There is quiet anger behind my posts, and the nefarious, underhanded actions and words of the ignorant leftists fuels it daily. The continuing saga of JournOList and their apologists prove what vile creatures liberals are. Intelligence and wisdom are sorely lacking and it is driving this country into the sewer.
You know, I really get tired of people that weren’t even born then making statement about those actions. Do they also say that the Weather Underground stated that their actions were not directed against people, but only property–and they always took care to notify the sites of their bombings, so they could be evacuated of people? But the propagandists don’t tell you that. And do they tell you that the accidental killing of a police officer and wounding of a by-stander caused them to cease their activities. No, they don’t tell you that either. Videos and articles like this one play on ignorance. Those were violent times. Police and National Guardsmen were shooting people on college campuses and in demonstrations. Tensions ran high. And if you weren’t around at that time, and participated in some of it, you have no grounds to talk about something you know absolutely about. And some people talk about “second amendment remedies”–they don’t know what they’re talking about.
@tadcf
From that perspective, people have no business discussing any history with an intention of weighing the pros and cons of whatever particular historical episode they are discussing. From your initial statement, no one should discuss slavery, as their is no one living who was a slave in America during those times. Do people not discuss slavery and, either conveniently or by ignorant omission, leave out important factual information in order to convey a general sense of direction in their thoughts and views?
I would hope that you see how asinine that statement is, tadcf.
As for the actions of the WU themselves, regardless of any ‘warnings’ given, they were at best, irresponsible and criminally negligent and resulted in death. To condone the actions, like you imply, by relating any malfeasance by government employees is akin to saying that ‘two wrongs do make a right. Is that what you are saying? And as for the bombings directed only at property, that is akin to saying that one’s property rights are not individual, but equally owned and shared by all. In other words, it is a collectivist mindset, and as such, is not a big surprise coming from you.
tadcf – From your description of things, its sounds like at that time your were a college student who hung on to his deferment to dodge the draft or one who ran to Canada. If you think those experiences were dangerous, you should have been with those of us who faced real danger……in South Vietnam. From my prospective, any male that joined the so called “peace movement” did so because he was a coward. I can talk because I’ve been there and done that. As for the people who were involved with the Weatherman; to this day I believe they they should be stepped on and squashed like a bug.
tadcf, you are very intuitive or intelligent to surmise that I wasn’t born at this period of history. Actually I am a Canadian and a dual citizen because of blood from both sides of the Northern Border, who was home schooled on a ranch, thus I am without the benefit of a public education.
I’ve never communicated with a veteran of the cultural wars of the 60’s and I am intrigued. We have many former servicemen on this site and I respect them all or maybe love them is more correct.
I realize their commentary antagonizes you and my article has annoyed you; however, I am now asking you to explain your service to the counter culture, please include your service and participation and the dangers you faced. You may bring about sympathy or a measure of respect, but in all fairness, you need to explain yourself; it will help us learn and evaluate the character of our opposition and you can state future opinions with more authority. You have an audience, I invite you to take your best shot.
Being an Army wife during that time must qualify me to speak about the country’s home grown terrorists of that era.
They were building bombs for crying out loud, not only were they responsible for the death of a police officer and injuries to other officers that day, they also attempted to bomb an NCO dance at Ft. Dix. Three WU bomb makers blew themselves up instead saving an untold number of lives of our nation’s best and their loved ones who would be attending that dance. Feh!
During the “Days of Rage” in Chicago, Richard Elwood was attacked and rendered permanently disabled by another terrorist who later was aquitted. The published photo of Attorney Elwood laying on the sidewalk with a broken neck prompted the never repentant Bernadine Dorhn to change the lyrics of Dillon’s “Lay Lady Lay” tune to “Lay Elwood Lay:
I believe Dorhn also voiced repulsive thoughts regarding the Sharon Tate murder and forks, discusting piece of vermin that she is…….still!
So now, I would like to introduce fellow posters who “weren’t even born then” to Larry Grathwohl who, btw, mentions that there is not statute of limitations on murder. Hopefully, Ayres, Dohrn and their terrorist colleagues will someday be brought to justice:
http://www.usasurvival.org/lg03.12.09.html
Now Missy, I don’t doubt your commentary, but tadcf has a version that is a contradiction. After all, he supposedly was there and participated, he takes pride in being veteran of the domestic War of Terror, he tells us how brave and noble the Weathermen were and then he disappears; is this a typical cowardly reaction from a former revolutionary or is he just another lying Lefty, who is bravely throwing cyber bombs of propaganda, while living a life of pretensions?
If he can’t respond, I will assume he is a fraud and unworthy of thoughtful consideration in the future.
@tadcf:
Really?
Did the Murtaugh family miss the memo?
Seems that the Murtaugh family, having been “born then” and actually living through it, would know more about the Weathermen, and their tactics, than yourself, having not been there to live it first hand.
No, the Murtaugh family experience, and those their other victims, won’t be told by the propagandists because it doesn’t fit the carefully crafted template that they, and you, have chosen to propagate.
Waste of time with this TADCF guy, he still hasn’t figured out that those comment notification emails are not from the commenter themselves but from the blog admin email and responding to those emails goes nowhere. He sends a dozen responses back via email which go nowhere except to the trash bin. I’ve emailed him and tried to explain it but he/she keeps doing it.
Gotta be one thickheaded person.
I just searched around and TADCF even acknowledges here that he figured out that responses via email don’t get posted to the site….but he still does it.
Geez louise
I wouldn’t be too hard on tadcf. He is entitled to his opinion and he’s exercising freedom of speech, which is one of the things we fought for, and treasure most. He’s probably been raised on a steady diet of public education BS about William Ayers. Finding out the truth can be a rude awakening for coddled young people, who are accustomed to the Nanny State and its comforts.
Remember, William Ayers is now an Adjunct Professor of Education at the University of Illinois (Chicago). His wife, Bernardine Dohrn, is now a law professor at Northwestern University. They have slithered their way into the education system, training new generations of teachers (Ayers) and lawyers (Dohrn) that America is evil, and that the socialist way is best. Our new friend tadcf may have learned American History from one of those teachers. Or he may be one of Ayers’ UIC disciples himself.
I think the best approach is to gently, but firmly, educate tadcf about the truth.
@Jim
Yes, tadcf is entitled to his own opinion and is exercising a freedom that myself and quite a few others took an oath to uphold and protect. What he isn’t entitled to is the warping of facts to spread propaganda.
I agree with you here though:
Not only does it serve to correct his warped sense of reality, but illustrates to other readers here, whether they participate in the discussions or remain silent, just how and why the liberals’ viewpoints are faulty.
Skookum:
I see you sense a story here. But, I’m afraid you’ll be sadly disappointed. I take it you’re in your 60’s–if you were of cognitive age during that period? I would suspect most of this audience is under 50 years of age–and weren’t aware of what was happening then. Things were as polarized as now, except we didn’t have the internet as resource of truth–even though its primary usage seem to be an a tool of propaganda. My main complaint is that your article doesn’t tell the whole truth–and I doubt if most of your readers do not have the impetus to research the issue themselves. That’s why I’m here: To provide another side of the story.
The left wing listened to underground radio station and read underground news paper in those days–instead, these days, you blog. I’m not saying that this information was anymore free of bias than the blogsters of today, but they offered a different picture than was different than the mainstream media. And, as history bears out, my claims about the Weather People are more true than yours–for example what source do you claim that says the Weather Underground use nails in their bombs as an anti-personnel device (perhaps you should advise wikipedia, and see if you evidence stands). Then, we have to distinguish the history of the Weathermen, when Bill Ayers and Burnadette Dorn were active, and when a bunch of crazies took over, and lost site of the goal–since your video was an implication of them.
Next, I was with the First Marine Expeditionary Force in Vietnam. We ran patrols and larger mission almost every day. Our losses were so high, we had to draw from the platoon to make up squad size patrols; and from the company when platoon size patrols. By the way, if you were my age during that time, were you in the war. I know you probably have a number of veteran’s among your audience, but I bet that number is relatively few. The thing I have to ask is, “Why haven’t all these people, who are so patriotic, signed up for Iraq or Afghanistan?” Maybe if more patriotic Americans did so, our members of the armed services wouldn’t have to be having to experience three and four tours of duty.
Aye Chihuahua:
That was an unfortunate event. But no one knows whether that was the Weather Underground, Black Panthers, or another group. But that’s not what’s important. I’m not here to justify or relive the past. Those were violent times. There was plenty of blame to go around–for example those students at Kent State and elsewhere who were killed by National Guardsmen. And, now, we see the same kind of polarization, and possibility of the same kind of violence today–only from the right-wing. What with the killing of abortion doctors and threats gun violence from the right. And this kind of video and its accompanying article only incites hate, and does nothing to bring the two groups together.
Missy:
Yes, the killing of that police officer was truly unfortunate, and I believe it was an accident. Even though the suspected perpetrators were exonerated, some people will always feel they’re guilty–like O.J. Simpson. And I think a lot probably got blamed on them for which they weren’t responsible. But to keep bringing it up and linking it somehow to Obama, really show how the conservative mind works–guilt by association.
Hmmmm….”doesn’t tell the whole truth,” eh?
Really?
What part of the truth does the article not tell?
Here’s a link to a 90 minute documentary on the Weather Underground which tells the story thoroughly:
Well, I looked back through Skookum’s original post and found nothing indicating that he claimed that there were nails in the bombs that the Weathermen created.
Furthermore, I then looked through all of the comments in this thread and, lo and behold, the only person who mentioned nails was…you.
Then, just for fun, and out of sheer curiosity I did a little Google search for the terms
Guess what…the first two search results were….Wikipedia.
Seems that they know what the rest of us already know too, so there will be no reason for us to “advise Wikipedia, and see if [the] evidence stands.”
Here at FA we tend to avoid Wiki as often as absolutely possible, sticking with original source material generally and more reliable source material specifically.
In that vein, I was curious to see what else I could find about nails and bombs and Weathermen, etc. I came across what Larry Grathwohl had to say on the matter.
Grathwohl was a member of the Weather Underground and also an FBI informant.
Hmmmmm….someone who was actually there, and actually lived it, says that the bombs contained nails or staples and that the instructions for the contents of the bombs came from Ayers personally.
So, with that little matter cleared up, let’s move on to the rest.
Do please post a time line of membership and participation….you’ll quickly learn that Ayers and Dohrn were in the organization from the very beginning all the way through to the very end.
Of course, that information is in the documentary that I linked, if you have the impetus to watch and learn.
No, you’re here to present the side of the story that you wish to fool us into believing, distorting the truth in the process which is a specialty of you leftists. To you, the truth is an esoteric, malleable thing.
You will, however, find a sharper box of tacks here at FA than on most of the sites that you frequent. We’re not going to just blindly follow your drivel. Nor are we going to just let your words and claims go unchallenged.
@tadcf:
What would the “whole truth” be? You must believe that Ayres/Dorhn are just neighbors, never mind that Obama and Michelle have had close ties to both through work and projects for a number of years to both Bill and Bernadine. BTW, I’ve lived 45 minutes from the neighborhood for many, many years.
Apparently you did not read the source I posted by the FBI informant/infiltrator Larry Grathwohl, he explains Bill Ayer’s instructions:
“crazies”…”lost site of the goal” Apparently you must not have been in on the inner workings of the Ayres/Dorhn inner circle. IMHO Ayres”Free as a bird, guilty as hell”/Dorhn, crazy as hell, directly influenced the crazies and they did not lose site of the Ayres/Dorhn “goal” at all.
I know for a fact that we “have a number of veteran’s” posting and I would guess, also lurking, would also love to have those lurkers input.
As to why they haven’t signed up for the WOT, what the hell is that comment all about. Maybe their sons or daughters are serving, maybe a beloved nephew, etc. Perhaps they are too old, not healthy, many reasons. Not serving on the ground in the WOT does not disqualify anyone’s right to state their case, positive or negative. That’s what my dad, husband, son, brother, uncles, ets. fought for and my nephew is now fighting for and yes, the nephew has fought in Iraq and in two weeks is on his way to….as OT would say, “the Stans.”
@tadcf:
I’m sure his family would dearly appreciate your heartfelt concern. 🙄
Good grief! Conservatives did not steer the manchild into a friendship with an unrepentant, homegrown terrorist and his unrepentant, terrorist wife. Their history is out there, one would think an Ivy league educated, Constitutional lecturer with an eye toward the US Senate and OO would be bright enough to judge the company he keeps.
Hey TADCF, if you are so for peace, then why aren’t YOU in Afghanistan trying to convince the Taliban to stop fighting?
Using your “logic” I would also argue that unless you actually have an abortion you can’t support it without being an even bigger hypocrite than you already are.
And your post shows how the mind of the left operates by denial of reality, projection, and a complete lack of honesty.
Just had to add that I’ll remember your comment when you and your kind keep blaming Bush for all the problems the dems have created.
Aye Chihuahua:
#25. Listen to the last part of the video.
@tadcf:
I’ve already watched the documentary including the last portion.
The film, as well as the other source material I have cited, give factual backing to the arguments I have made.
So, what’s your point? Specifically.
Exit question: Where is the source material which supports your claims?
Aye Chihuahua:
#25. Listen to the last part of the video.
#30. Not the documentary, the original video with the article by Skookums, Your own documentary contains all the evidence to support my claims about the Weather Underground.
@tadcf:
Again, specifically, what is your point?
Quote the line from the video that you disagree with and present documented evidence to support what you’re saying.
Stop the tap dancing.
And, no, the documentary I posted does NOT support your claims. Not at all.
State your point and cite your sources. Anything short of that is nothing more than wasted bits and bytes on our pages here.
The reading audience eagerly awaits your reply.
Missy:
One thing you’re right about is that I wasn’t on the inside. But, think about it, if they had been out to kill people, then, with all the explosions the caused, don’t you think more people would have been kill? Sorry for the apparent traumatization you must have been cause.
Hard Right:
I’ve already served my country. How about you? Not only do you not use my logic, you don’t use any logic at all.
Hard Right:
I don’t have a kind, I’m an individual. And I only blame Bush for what he did–not for his accidental associations.
@tadcf:
And if Bush had launched his political career from the living room of a pair of avowed, unrepentant domestic terrorists who had the overthrow of the American system of government as their long-standing, plainly stated goal would that be an “accidental association”?
No?
Didn’t think so.
Aye Chihuahua:
The documentary does support everything I said.
1. Bill Ayers is seen on the video saying that they decided they weren’t going to be directed at people.
2. There were factions within the organization who felt contrary about injuring people, but they became less important after the explosion at the townhouse.
3. There bombs were placed and phone calls made to warn people to evacuate.
That’s all I was saying.
Aye Chihuahua:
Think what you like.
@tadcf:
Which is why, of course, the bombs contained nails and/or staples…
Which is why, of course, Grathwohl received specific instructions from…wait for it…Bill Ayers on how the bombs should be constructed…
Ummm…you need to watch the documentary again….take some notes this time cuz you’re totally confused.
Which explains, of course, why the Murtaugh family was in their home when the three bombs were set off…
You have yet to present one scintilla of evidence which refutes the arguments that I, and others, have put forward.
Nor have you yet presented one iota of evidence to support the arguments that you, yourself, have put forward.
You’re really not very good at this are you?
tadcf- The First Marine Expeditionary Force was formed in Okinawa in 1969. It did not deploy to Vietnam. Suggest your just another scumbag poser when it comes to your so-called miltary experiences. Suspect there are a few Marines on this site who would like to meet you in person. The rest of what you have posted is nothing more than leftist dribble.
@tadcf
The problem with making claims such as you have, and then not actually backing them up with factual evidence but only continuing to shout those claims out, as if the constant repetition somehow makes it true, is that even if you are correct, which I don’t believe, you cannot hope to be vindicated on a site where the contributors pride themselves in using actual, verifiable facts. Your method may work on the leftist hack sites you frequent like HuffPo, but they do not work here.
Another, minor, problem with making these particular claims of yours, is that you have marginalized yourself by choosing to defend the indefensible. I have yet to see any video or speech excerpt from Ayers or Dorhn in repentance of their actions during their time in the WU, and that includes the killing of the police officer. One can only be forgiven if one asks to be forgiven. Obama’s ties to Ayers is well documented and deep, and as such, Obama’s own choice of association must be brought into question. It is not an ‘accidental association’ like you put it, but one that went on for years through business contacts and political actions.
And, not that I feel the need to justify myself to you in any way, I am a veteran of the military and I resent the fact that you imply anything to the contrary. I served willingly, albeit at a time of mostly peace except for the first gulf war, and although I was never on the ground, I supported the action by doing to the best of my ability the job given to me. If asked, I would have given my life for my country, and still would if allowed or the situation deemed it necessary, and not just for the country, but for the millions who would speak out against it as well.
Do not presume to lecture myself or anyone here on just what they can or cannot comment about on any subject. Neither you, nor anyone else in the entire world has that right.
@tadcf
Hi Tad. You may have noticed that earlier, I argued in favor of your freedom of speech. You also may have noticed that you’re being treated a lot more gently here than a conservative such as Curt or Skookum would be treated at Daily Kos or Democratic Underground. Just saying.
Earlier you said this:
When a terrorist organization engages in acts of violence, and fails to achieve the political goals they were seeking (in this case, our immediate withdrawal from Vietnam), they’ll often escalate the violence. It’s been well-documented by others on this thread that William Ayers decided to escalate the violence.
His early bombings did indeed target buildings, not people; and telephone warnings to evacuate those buildings were indeed provided. But in his later attempts, the bombs were packed with nails. Military veterans here immediately recognize (and if you really are a combat veteran, you will recognize it too) that nails or other debris decrease the explosive force that can be delivered to a structure, but become lethal projectiles that will spray out over a wide area, possibly killing or badly injuring many people.
There is only one possible purpose for this. William Ayers was escalating the violence. He wanted to kill people.
The intended target was an NCO dance at Fort Dix. It would have been packed with unprotected people, including the wives, girlfriends and other loved ones. It would have had no appreciable military effect, since there would have been no officers present. There would have been no obstacles to the explosive effect, either the blast itself or those lethal projectiles.
Think of the worst suicide bombing in Baghdad. The death toll could have reached 100, in addition to dozens of others blinded or with their legs blown off. If a young girl walked away with scars on her beautiful face for life, the families of the dead would have considered her lucky.
Am I getting through to you yet?
The “townhouse bomb” that accidentally killed a few Weather Underground members was the bomb that was intended for Fort Dix. It was packed with nails. Those young servicemen, and their wives and girlfriends, were spared not by any humanitarian impulse by William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, because those two intended to kill, cripple and maim as many as they could. No, they were spared only because of the Weather Underground’s own incompetence.
@ JimDavisNewsmax – As a former NCO SSGT in the US Army… I take exception to your claim:
Those that have served understand that the NCO is the workhorse of the US Military. A butter-bar lieutenant is about as worthless as tits on a boar hog without the seasoned NCO’s around to keep him or her pointed in the right direction.
NCO’s have proven their leadership ability… low ranking officers can only say that they managed to survive 4 years of college keggers.
Oh man….what a true statement.
Don, that was a hard take down. I think we would have enjoyed serving together. There are some former officers here that might disagree, but when the situation was grim, you know the rest. Too funny! My friend!
Oh, to be 19 again, with a real leader for a President!
It is not my intention to disparage the Officer Corp. I’ve served under many excellent officers, but it has been my experience that true leadership qualities, with the occasional exceptions, becomes truly evident around the rank of O-3 when the individual has acquired enough time in service, maturity and scrutiny to be promoted rather than passed over. A good NCO at the platoon level will go a long way toward helping (babysitting) those O-1’s and O-2’s while their leadership qualities develop.
I once had to drive a 1st Lieutenant to finance so he could pick up the company payroll. The NCO at the counter proffered several documents for the Lieutenant to sign. The Lieutenant tried to sign several times but the pen kept skipping. In an offhanded attempt at humor the Officer quipped “Must be an NCO pen… it hardly works”.
Without missing a beat, the NCO handed him another pen, “Here Sir, try this one, it’s an Officer pen… it NEVER works”
And it was not my intention to disparage any NCOs. I was ROTC, started as a Butterbar and worked my way up by listening to those NCOs and WOs. They kept me not only pointed in the right direction, but moving at the right speed. I would rather have a Master Sergeant next to me when the #### hit the fan than ten Butterbars. I hope that at that point in my career, I was seen as better than most: one of the “occasional exceptions.”
In my opinion, the best NCOs never would have shown up voluntarily at a sissyfied NCO dance anyway. If ordered to do so, they would have been standing by the wall covered with stripes and ribbons, passing around a hip flask, eyeing the door, and watching for a chance to bug out.
Drink up.
Aye Chihuahua:
Present your sources–anybody can say anything without sources.
As I’ve said before,there’s no evidence who did the Murtaugh fire bombing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_%28organization%29]. Even if it was, this event was prior to the decision to try to not harm people–and was probably done by the more violent people who were blown up in the NY townhouse. (see your own documentary).
If they had intended to kill people, don’t you wonder why people weren’t killed in some of those horrendous blasts?
Aye Chihuahua #36:
If…if…if…. I don’t deal in hypothetical unless they’re grounded in reality.
TADCF, as a leftist you are seriously divorced from reality. The fact you think you are an individual supports such a view. You have done nothing but spewed the same old, long disproven, leftwing claims.
Guilt by association? Hah! Try guilt by participation.
I also notice your post doesn’t match one further down by someone else about the Marine Expeditionary force. Caught in a lie about serving the country?
BTW, do you call the police? You shouldn’t be able to do that if you haven’t been a cop. Again, using what YOU think is logic. Really, you make it so easy for us to beat you over the head with your own stupidity.
Aye has kicked your butt all over this thread and others. I’d say it’s fairly clear you are just a troll. The best thing about your posts is people get to see what liars lefties are and how they will defend a fellow lefty no matter what they do. You are definitely helping our side.
In the first place, I don’t believe I ever said anything derogatory about your status as a veteran. I respect anybody that has served–but I doubt if that represents most of the people on this, or any other, blog. The only people I don’t respect are those who talk patriotism, but have avoided the armed services–like Cheney. If I have given you the wrong idea, forgive me.
As far as making statements without evidence, I always have evidence. If I’ve forgotten to prove some I say, call me on it. But you can expect the same.
P.S. Your inquiry about my philosophy of government may take some time and thought. but I’ll will respond.
@tadcf:
Well, there ya go….I knew you didn’t have the stonz to answer the question.
For those keeping score at home, here is the question that has tadcf stumped: