I was wrong . . . again. I stand corrected. You did NOT say that Blacks voted Dem because of welfare. You actually said:
“But I don’t wonder why minorities ‘avoid’ the GOP like ‘the plague’… which they don’t, save in your mind. They just look at your party, which promises them gas in their car, heating oil, affirmative action reverse discrimination, and all their needs that will be provided by the neighboring rich guy who has more than they do. Social justice, you promise. You cater to a freeloader mentality, and promise they have no need for responsibility of self because government will be there in event they trip. Sounds like sheer nirvana to most.”
I stand corrected — it not just Blacks who you believe have the “freeloader mentality” and are looking for government cheese. No, you think it is all the minorities that are so motivated. And that is why you think they vote Dem.
Cons, unless you figure out that some BIG part of your argument is based on a falacy, you are condemned to be a regional, aging lily white party in a time when the country is getting more diverse. Think about it . . . .
Your above statement speaks volumes about you. I don’t cast my vote based on who else is casting their ballot like me. I am casting my vote based on core principles and values. The majority is not always right. Several instances in history should remind you of this, (flat earth, belief that our planet is the center of the universe, sickness caused by demons in the bloodstream…) Your statement is made even sillier when you consider that noone in our Nation could possibly win an election without the votes of a lot of lilly white folks voting for them, and that includes the Zero who got elected President. I see nothing wrong with being lilly white. I was born that way, it is not how I define myself. Apparently though, it would seem that you are incapable of defining anybody in any other manner other than skin color. Think about it……..
“Skin color among African Americans is not to be discussed in polite company, so Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s newly disclosed remark about President Obama — that voters are more comfortable with him because he’s light-skinned — offended decorum. But it was surely true. * * *
“Color bias has always existed in this country. We don’t talk about it because we think of color as subordinate to racial identification. There are African Americans with skin so light-hued that only contextual clues speak to the question of race. I remember once looking up some distant cousins on my father’s side. They were so fair of hair and ruddy of cheek that I thought I’d gone to the wrong house, until one of them greeted me in what I guess Reid would call ‘Negro dialect.’
* * *
“The Brazilian system minimized racial friction on an interpersonal level. The American system fostered such friction, through formal and informal codes that enforced racial segregation. But our “one-drop” paradigm also created great racial solidarity among African Americans, while maximizing our numbers. We fought, marched, sat in, struggled and eventually made tremendous strides toward equality. The most recent, of course, was Obama’s election, which is difficult to imagine happening in Brazil — or, for that matter, in any other country where there is a large, historically oppressed minority group.
“Brazil has now begun addressing long-standing racial disparities through affirmative action initiatives. But the upper reaches of that society — the financial district in Sao Paulo, say, or the government ministries in Brasilia — are still so exclusively white that they look like bits and pieces of Portugal that somehow ended up on the wrong side of the ocean.
“American society’s focus on race instead of color explains why what Harry Reid said was so rude. But I don’t think it can be a coincidence that so many pioneers — Edward Brooke, the first black senator since Reconstruction; Thurgood Marshall, the first black Supreme Court justice; Colin Powell, the first black secretary of state — have been lighter-skinned. Reid’s analysis was probably good sociology, even if it was bad politics.”
Flyover, the question I raised was why minorities cast THEIR VOTES.
Mata offered the “they all care about welfare” theory.
I asked Mike to weigh in, but he is in some kind of cone of silence.
I woudl love to hear your theory.
You can gleen my theory from what I have posted above: minorities vote Dem because anti-minority racists are in the GOP. Not out of love of the Dem Party, or even total agreement with what the Dems believe (take abortion or gun control). Nope, why they vote Dem can best be shown by three things that have happened in the last three years:
Macaca, Palin rallies and “Sonia Sotomayor is not qualified”
If you can’t understand how those three incidents, and the GOPs response to them, doomed the GOP to another generation of non-parity among minority voters, then I don’t know what to say.
And save your “Bob Byrd was in the KKK” blasts. Given that his party just nominated and elected a Black president, it’s a little, shall we say, tired . . . .
We will start by renewing the American Dream for a new era – with the same new hope and new ideas that propelled Franklin Delano Roosevelt towards the New Deal and John F. Kennedy to the New Frontier. We will provide immediate relief to working people who have lost their jobs, families who are in danger of losing their homes, and those who – no matter how hard they work – are seeing prices go up more than their income. We will invest in America again –in world-class public education, in our infrastructure, and in green technology –so that our economy can generate the good, high-paying jobs of the future. We will end the outrage of unaffordable, unavailable health care, protect Social Security, and help Americans save for retirement. And we will harness American ingenuity to free this nation from the tyranny of oil.
What is this “we” but at the expense of the taxpayer? How is this accomplished but by increased social welfare programs?
As I pointed out in my post INRE Obama’s mistaken notion for job creation actually being an instrument of economic destruction, the Spain alternative energy projects that have been completed went under research scrutiny, to which the conclusion was that it was “terribly counterproductive economically”. When annual productivity, rising taxes, more expensive energy and robbery of private sector funds were factored in, the $37 bil costs to sustain 50,200 jobs at $737K per green job was the equivalent of destroying 5.28 private sector jobs to sustain one green job.
Now there’s some math that is bound to slide over the head of a guy who looks at a studio filled with 150-200 attendees, and counts 5-15.
It’s not only a job killer, but also in direct conflict with aiding those having a problem heating their homes by favoring more expensive alternatives and replacing affordable energy that could be had with shale gas/oil development here on our shores.
Here’s another social welfare program projection, but with doublespeak.
For decades, Americans have been told to act for ourselves, by ourselves, on our own. Democrats reject this recipe for division and failure. Today, we commit to renewing our American community by recognizing that solutions to our greatest challenges can only be rooted in common ground and the strength of our civic life. The American people do not want government to solve all our problems; we know that personal responsibility, character, imagination, diligence, hard work and faith ultimately determine individual achievement. But we also know that at every turning point in our nation’s history, we have demonstrated our love of country by uniting to overcome our challenges—whether ending slavery, fighting two world
wars for the cause of freedom or sending a man to the moon.
Today, America must unite again – to help our most vulnerable residents get back on their feet and to restore the vitality of both urban centers and family farms –because the success of each depends on the success of the other. And America must challenge us again –to serve our country and to meet our responsibilities –whether in our families or local governments; our civic organizations or places of worship.
That’s rich…. they “know” American’s *don’t* want government solutions (most especially expensive ones…), BUT…… In essence they say, “sure… BUT this is an exception”. See pg 11 of their platform PDF for that social welfare “jump start” to the economy of $50 billion…. only about $737 bil shy of reality, eh? But then, as billy bob aptly demonstrates, math isn’t the strong suit of Dems.
Naw…. Dem’s don’t vote for social welfare and social justice. That just couldn’t be what they stand for, eh?
This one makes me roar…
Today, we pledge to renew American democracy by promoting the use of new technologies to make it easier for Americans to participate in their government. [Except C SPAN] We will shine a light on government spending and Washington lobbying [except those constructed in the dark of night in the WH basement] –so that every American is empowered to be a watchdog and a whistle blower. We are the party of inclusion and respect differences of perspective and belief. And so, even when we disagree, we will work together [Dems only… no GOP allowed] to move this country forward. There can be no Republican or Democratic ideas, only policies that are [we, the Dem leadership consider are] smart and right and fair and good for America –and those that aren’t.
[Mata Musing: italic content added via Mata, per billy bob’s “Blog Editing for Dummies” 2010 release]
How is it in blog-speak? Oh yes… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tell ya what, billy bob. Why don’t you ask *your* friends if they vote Democrat because of the party platform of spreading the wealth.
One of these days when you have a relationship with an actual person, and not just your right hand, you will come to understand that some times people are not meant to be together. Until then, you will have to take my word on it . . . .
Oh yes, billy bob… wanna know where I got the “promises them gas in their car, heating oil, affirmative action reverse discrimination, and all their needs that will be provided by the neighboring rich guy who has more than they do” bit? Your party platform
Pg 11: We will provide an immediate energy rebate to American families struggling with the record price of gasoline and the skyrocketing cost of other necessities – to spend on those basic needs and energy efficient measures.
Pg 7: Gas and home heating costs are squeezing seniors and working families alike.
Pg 7: We believe that every American, whatever their background or station in life, should have the chance to get a good education, to work at a good job with good wages, to raise and provide for a family, to live in safe surroundings, and to retire with dignity and security.
Pg 7: A great nation now demands that its leaders abandon the politics of partisan division and find creative solutions to promote the common good. A people that prizes candor, accountability, and fairness insists that a government of the people must level with them and champion the interests of all American families.
Pg 54: We support affirmative action, including in federal contracting and higher education, to make sure that those locked out of the doors of opportunity will be able to walk through those doors in the future
Hey, this ought to give you all a laugh… anyone remember this Dem Party Platform gem?
We will lift the veil of secret deals in Washington by publishing searchable, online information about federal grants, contracts, earmarks, loans, and lobbyist contacts with government officials. We will make government data available online and will have an online video archive of significant agency meetings. We will put all non-emergency bills that Congress has passed online for five days, to allow the American public to review and comment on them before they are signed into law. We will require Cabinet officials to have periodic national online town hall meetings to discuss issues before their agencies.
Not sure how to break it to you, but that platform and that candidate got more than 350 electoral votes. They won by close to 10 million heads, got more votes than any candidate in history, and turned the likes of Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, Iowa, and Colorado blue. Those are NOT Dem states and they are NOT majority minority states. Whatever he was sellin’, the voters were buyin’. You may not like the Dem platform, but a whole siht-load more people liked that then the flummory the other crew was offering. Or is it that they thought the Dem candidate was superior? Probably a little of both.
Flyover —
Good thing you don’t mind being in the poweless minority. Because from the looks of the posts here, you cons have not learned a damn thing from that election.
Mata and Fly —
I am now reading “Ayn Rand and the World that She Made” by Anne Heller. You and Mata kind of remind me Ayn, what with the whole self-reverential and self-referential focus. But reading between the lines, Rand’s pronouncements of her own high selfworth strike me as signifying one of the Cluster B. personality disorders in the DSM IV. Alas, Fly and Mata, methinks you two, too, are on that end of the chart.
billy bob: Not sure how to break it to you, but that platform and that candidate got more than 350 electoral votes. They won by close to 10 million heads, got more votes than any candidate in history, and turned the likes of Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, Iowa, and Colorado blue. Those are NOT Dem states and they are NOT majority minority states.
Thank you for confirming what I said. That minorities are voting Dim for the stated Dem social welfare platform. I didn’t say anything about others who are not minorities, but also vote for the same social welfare. Afterall, it was you who only decided to address minorities… er, no, only the blacks-with-a-capital-A… as the prime focus. But social welfare is a Dim thing…. based on their stated, printed, distributed platform.
Then, of course, if polls are to be believed, about 6-7% of those voters are now figuring out that the promised gravy train isn’t free afterall, and too expensive a load for the nation at large to carry.
This also, of course, blows out your theory that it’s merely a racist GOP party that commanded their votes… except for your chosen friends, of course who feel “unwelcome” for their color.
Flashback January 21, 2007: The Washington Times nails it with Collapsing Venezuela.
“If Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez (President Obama) deliberately intended to sabotage his nation’s economy, he would be hard-pressed to do anything different from what he is now doing to his country.
It has been widely reported that Mr. Chavez (President Obama) has been increasingly taking control of the oil, telecommunications and energy, housing, banking, auto, and insurance sectors, as well as the media. What has not been reported is the full extent of the corruption in Venezuela (the United States) and how this ultimately will destroy the economy.
The financial scandal taking place is far bigger than Enron, and may ultimately even exceed the U.N. “oil-for-food” scandal, the biggest financial disgrace of all time.
Since 2004, the Venezuelan Central Bank (Fed) has transferred about $22.5 billion untold $billions to accounts abroad by the Chavez government held by foreign governments, and about $12 billion all of that remains unaccounted for. It has also been reported that the gold reserves have been removed from the Central Bank.
While the rest of the world has been moving away from socialism for the last quarter-century for good reason, Venezuela (the United States) is becoming socialist. We know governmental use of central banks to basically print money to cover expenditures results in rising inflation and eventually monetary meltdown.
And, finally, we know that when a state becomes totally corrupt an economic collapse always follows. Mr. Chavez (President Obama) and his cronies had already been spending far more than they were taking in and you can bet the blood from the innocent Venezuelan people (United States citizens) will be drained long before those on the take from Mr. Chavez (President Obama) agree to have their looting stopped.
The original Washington Times article was extremely good, but a few minor changes would have made it the most prophetically accurate post the world had ever seen.”
Mata — you are straying farther and farther and farther from the subject matter of the top post. I though we were talking about Harry Reid noticing Obama was beige and talked pretty, and Trent Lott’s endorsement of child rapist/segregationist Strom Thurmond. You are now doing a line by line critique of the WINNING platform . . . of the party that won that notoriously Communistic demographic “White suburban females with college education”. yeah, that’ll work.
And Mata — before you go calling someone else “racist” you might want to cogitate on the underlying racism of your whole “minorities vote for welfare” theory. In fact . . . why not read this?
“I can vouch that being a moderate black Republican isn’t easy. My black GOP colleagues and I endure endless ridicule and questioning from other African Americans, including close friends and family members who wonder how we can belong to a political party that is so overwhelmingly white, male, Southern, conservative and seemingly closed to ethnic minorities.
“And truth be told, it’s sometimes an ill fit. Consider the comments of Shannon Reeves, an African American who started a college Republican chapter at Grambling State University in 1988. In 2003, he wrote an open letter to the party after it was disclosed that in 1999, a newsletter published by the then-vice chairman of the California Republican Party had carried an essay suggesting that the country would have been better off if the South had won the Civil War.
“‘I am tired of being embarrassed by elected Republican officials who have no sensitivity for issues that alienate whole segments of our population,’ Reeves wrote. ‘This embarrassment is different for a black Republican. Not only do we have to sit in rooms and behave professionally towards Republicans who share this ideology, we have to go home to a hostile environment where we are called Uncle Tom and maligned as a sell-out to the community because of our membership in the Republican Party.’
“With those words Reeves expressed what many of us have felt over the years — and felt again during the recent campaign as we listened to racially coded Republican ads and speeches aimed at scaring working-class and rural white voters about Obama. Reeves expressed why so many of us, including me, ended up, after struggling with our consciences, supporting and voting for the Illinois senator.”
* * * * *
This is from two people who SUPPORT the GOP and note the flat out racists in your midst. Why the GOP does nothing to address this, is beyond me. But all I can say is —
Keep it up! Keep doing what you are doing! It’s working so well in diversifying the party!
Dang… back already, billy bob? We hardly missed ya! LOL
Sorry you don’t find the content intelligible. Don’t think removing your shoes will help for that one, guy. Let’s see if I can help:
1: You wanted only to discuss why minorities… no, make that blacks… don’t vote GOP. You, of course, suggest it’s because the GOP is filled with racists and has a racist history. Rather absurd in itself since racism transcends party lines. But hey… your argument.
2: I responded that minorities (including blacks as a minority) vote Dim (not a typo) because of the social welfare platform. Then I provided your party’s platform language to prove my bullet points of promised aid for gas, heating oil, affirmative action etal.
3: You then decided to abandon the original focus on minorities… er blacks… and point out many voted for the social welfare package that were not minorities.
huh?
4: I then reminded you that it was YOU who choose to focus only on minorities… er, blacks… and not the Dim voter (again, not a typo) of all stripes. Had we started out discussing why *all* Dems vote Dem, I would have said exactly the same. It’s because of the social welfare thrust…. a platform that caters to a free loading mentality. Government please give me gas for the car, give me heating oil, give me affirmative action.
6: After providing my bullet points in your party platform, you then decided to tout the electorate win. A skip-trod moment of your own. I thought it only fair to update your news that YOURE POTUS is losing the support of the moderates and indy’s who aided his launch to the Oval Office.
That was actually a nice effort trying to clean up your initial offensive comment about welfare being what motivates minorities to vote Dem. Looping back a couple paragraphs of a hundred page platform — as if that is what you were REALLY referring to. Pretty good try, lady!
Alas, there are too many of your fellow travelers who say it with such gusto as to undercut your more delicate spin job:
Like I said — if you ask minority professionals why they vote Dem, their supposed love of welfare ain’t gonna be on the list. But like I said before — keep pushing that welfare theory anyway! You are doing great with it! Just DON’T follow this column’s advice:
“The other piece is that E.D. is definitely underestimating the extent to which respect has a significant impact on minority voting. Simply put, even if Democratic policies had a negligible effect on the material well-being of minority voters, I still think that you would see large-scale minority support for the Democratic Party, if only because Democrats are the party that takes minority concerns seriously. More often than not, Republicans are either dismissive of or actively hostile to minority interests. With that kind of record – and a relatively friendly Democratic Party – it really shouldn’t come as any surprise that minorities are reliable Democratic voters.”
And there it is . . . the GOP doesn’t get minority votes anywhere near parity because they simply don’t act as if they want them!
Mata, as I said — you think my wife’s Black physician who makes $400,000 or so per year votes Dem because of welfare. But you don’t seem to grasp why that is patently offensive.
But I just proved my broader point about Black in particular and minorities in general. Regardless of social class, they all vote Dem. Only cons actually believe its because of welfare.
But, like I said! Keep at it! Keep thinking THATS the reason and that it has nothing to do with the actual people in, or the positions of, the GOP!
So your wealthy physican friend votes Dim because she opposes social welfare programs? Yeah… makes alot of sense.
Oh wait… she’s one of your two sources that proclaim it’s all about GOP racism and not Dem party social welfare platforms. So she disagrees with government social welfare, but votes that way anyway because she feels “unwelcome” in the GOP. Got it. Yeah. I’m sure that’s a common reason shared by many. LOL
Tell you what I find offensive… that all of us are to bow to mandated “charity”, the recipients to be chosen by your party. And for that, the red tape bureaucracy creams off excessive funds off the top for inefficient admin fees, and the pittance then filters down to the intended recipient. Good plan….
This little economic catch 22 manages to quash opportunity for all.. most especially for those who never really wanted the government hand out to begin with, but just the opportunity to stand on their feet without being robbed by the likes of Obama/Pelosi/Reid.
I am a little disturbed how little B-Rob has shown his understanding of basic United States History by trying to connect Republicans to Jim Crow Laws of which were penned and enforced by Democrats in the former Confederate States after losing the Civil War. It took Republican backing to pass The Civil Rights Act of 1964 because many Democrat Congressmen and Senators were filibustering President Johnson’s attempts to destroy Jim Crow Laws his own Party was embracing. Last I recall, Johnson was not a Republican.
B-Rob when you quote someone such as Michael Steele such as:
I can vouch that being a moderate black Republican isn’t easy. My black GOP colleagues and I endure endless ridicule and questioning from other African Americans, including close friends and family members who wonder how we can belong to a political party that is so overwhelmingly white, male, Southern, conservative and seemingly closed to ethnic minorities.
Do you understand that this quote was not even reference to internal GOP situations and enviorment but by external Democrat harrassment due to not following a certain pattern line of behavior? Even Allen West of Florida has been slammed by Democrat opponets as being nothing but a drone of the GOP and not being a true Black and going Democrat. Your understanding of the context of dicussions is highly questionable.
Sorry billy bob… had to bail your comment #71 out of spam. BTW, the filter is color blind, and very PC. It snags us all from time to time.
That was actually a nice effort trying to clean up your initial offensive comment about welfare being what motivates minorities to vote Dem. Looping back a couple paragraphs of a hundred page platform — as if that is what you were REALLY referring to. Pretty good try, lady!
I read your official party platform, tho it was unnecessary. Rather a repeat of previous with new “hope and change” stuff, and more emphasis why we have to expand the social welfare projects in these economic times. Altho what I find most amusing is your attempt to fill in the blanks as to what I “REALLY” meant. Guess that deity complex doesn’t leave easily, eh?
You are a racist, billy bob, because you continually try to paint me as one simply because I don’t share your suggested cures for opportunity for all, and solutions to our economic crunch. You assume that’s all because of a racial prejudice. That you make this call without reading my volume of posts of the year or so I’ve been here, or on my previous blog, is your research flaw. First rule… know your rabbit. All I can say is, since you are predictable in your prosecution, I certainly hope you have great paralegals at your fingertips thru your firm.’
Like I said — if you ask minority professionals why they vote Dem, their supposed love of welfare ain’t gonna be on the list.
Not “first” on the list… can I assume and portend (as you constantly do about me) that means it IS on “the list”???
I will agree that if you ask the average Dem if they vote that way because they want social welfare programs at the expense of all, most would say no. But that’s merely parsing words, and chosing careful wording, isn’t it?
If I ask any US citizen, regardless of party, “do you want everyone to never experience need and have opportunities to be wealthy?”, I guarantee you everyone would say YES without question.
If I ask“do you want everyone to never experience need, and are willing to give the government the power to limit your own income and opportunities in order for all to be wealthy or, at least, minimally cared for”, is the answer the same?
Absolutely not.
It’s all in the way you word the questions. Welcome to Alinsky and community organizing. Truth is expendable in order to achieve the end goal.
However the majority don’t realize the economics and repercussions of socialized programs. Yet the more they learn of the costs of “free” social justice, the more that turn away. The question is, can they turn away in time to save an economy that hangs by a thread with such decisions?
And let’s address this particular statement, which lies at the heart of your class racism/warfare:
Alas, there are too many of your fellow travelers who say it with such gusto as to undercut your more delicate spin job:
I am not “my fellow travelers”. Nor are my fellow travelers clones. We are all individuals with varying degrees of differing opinions. We support concepts, and candidates who reflect those concepts. You speak, think, and act in class warfare. There is no individualism to you… only classes that need your sage advice. Therein lies your problem, not only as a presenter of your political theories, but as a human being.
“We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our (Southern) states.” – Richard Russell (D-GA)
@Mr. Irons: Just to expand some links and content on your Steele quote… you can find more at a blog from billy bob’s back yard: It is also where I picked up Steele’s complaint about being treated like an “Uncle Tom”… a charge of racism which billy bob tries to lay at my feet. But then, he lives in Chicago,… er, Cleveland…. must be quite busy with his court docket, and evidently doesn’t get all the news. So he can’t possibly know it was a comment that originated from those who are receiving peer pressure from fellow socialist blacks-with-a-capital-A – ahem – like billy bob.
“I am tired of being embarrassed by elected Republican officials who have no sensitivity for issues that alienate whole segments of our population,” Reeves wrote. “This embarrassment is different for a black Republican. Not only do we have to sit in rooms and behave professionally towards Republicans who share this ideology, we have to go home to a hostile environment where we are called Uncle Tom and maligned as a sell-out to the community because of our membership in the Republican Party.”
I really like Steele. His complaints are valid. But unlike billy bob, who insists the GOP is pretty much a bunch of racists, the problem lies more in ramping up a counter “Alinsky community organization” that can effectively challenge the constant onslaught of the socialist welfare Dims who paint the GOP with lies they are racists. Fact vs communicated message. A nuance that whizzes by shoeless billy bob.
I’m a conservative. Were I to see that Steele could actually swing the GOP back into a more effective message system using new technology, I might even call myself a Republican one day. But I don’t base my support for concepts based on who has the most effective messaging system via technology.
@MataHarley said “billy bob, had to bail your comment #71 out of spam. ”
I wouldn’t have bothered.
BLOB has yet to make an original or interesting comment. If I wanted to know what George Soros thinks I could go to half a dozen web sites that present that view much better.
I don’t know Mike, bailing out his comment from the spam filter is embracing the Freedom of Speech. It isn’t fair to censor his comments, even if they’re factualy incorrect.
I wish Martian Luther King, Jr. was still alive today as he would have greatly made Presidental matieral for his Political Party… Oh wait, he was a Republican who lead a non-violent march to free Americans from Democratic discrimination in the south…
B-Rob from Clevecago,
Here is a partial list of Famous Black Conservatives who vote the Republican ticket most of the time.
A
Akindele Akinyemi, CEO of One Network and Conservative Educator
Claude Allen, former White House Domestic Policy Advisor
Renee Amoore, health care advocate & founder and president of The Amoore Group, Inc.; former candidate for RNC Co-Chairwoman
[edit] B
Pearl Bailey, singer and actress
Martin D Baker, Republican Candidate for US Congress in Missouri’s First(2010) and Fifth Districts(2008)
J. Kenneth Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio, former gubernatorial candidate
Lynette Boggs, former Las Vegas City Councilwoman, former Clark County, NV commissioner, former candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives
Peter Boulware, former NFL linebacker and Republican candidate for the Florida House of Representatives, District 9.
Jennette Bradley, former Treasurer of the State of Ohio
Edward Brooke, former U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, first African American elected by popular vote to the U.S. Senate
Janice Rogers Brown, a federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals
Blanche Bruce, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve a full term in the U.S. Senate
Victoria Buckley, former Colorado Secretary of State [1]
Pearl Burris-Floyd, North Carolina House of Representatives, 110th District
Keith Butler, Republican national committeeman from Michigan, former councilman for Detroit, minister and former U.S. Senatorial candidate
Wendell N. Butler, Jr., mayor of Chester, Pennsylvania [2]
[edit] C
Herman Cain, businessman and media personality
Jennifer Carroll, Florida State Representative [3]
Clarence H. Carter, Director of the District of Columbia’s Department of Human Services, former administration official under President George W. Bush [4]
Octavius Valentine Catto, civil rights activist and African American baseball pioneer
Henry P. Cheatham, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
Eldridge Cleaver, author and civil rights leader
William Thaddeus Coleman, Jr., fourth United States Secretary of Transportation, first African American Supreme Court Clerk [5] [6] [7]
Ward Connerly, political activist, businessman, and former University of California Regent
Stanley Crouch, American music and cultural critic, syndicated columnist, and novelist
Frank G. Cousins, Jr., Sheriff, Essex County, Ma.
[edit] D
Oscar Stanton de Priest, former U.S. Representative from Illinois
Frederick Douglass, abolitionist, editor, orator, author, and statesman
Clyde Drexler, former professional basketball player
[edit] E
Larry Elder, talk radio host and commentator
Robert Brown Elliott, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
Melvin H. Evans, former U.S. Representative from, and former Governor of, the U.S. Virgin Islands
Charles Evers, civil-rights leader in Mississippi, brother of Medgar Evers
[edit] F
James L. Farmer, Jr., civil rights leader
Arthur Fletcher, official in the administrations of Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and George H.W. Bush; considered the “father of affirmative action”
Gary Franks, former U.S. Representative from Connecticut
Ryan Frazier, Aurora City Councilman, Candidate for United States Senate elections in Colorado, 2010
Samuel B. Fuller, founder and president of the Fuller Products Company, publisher of the New York Age and Pittsburgh Courier, head of the South Side Chicago NAACP, president of the National Negro Business League, and a prominent black Republican
[edit] G
Paul R. Green, Jr., retired Senior Master Sergeant, U.S. Air Force, Businessman, former candidate California State Senate
[edit] H
Jeremiah Haralson, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
Erika Harold, Miss America 2003
James T Harris, radio talk-show host from Milwaukee, Wisc.
Ted Hayes, activist for the homeless
Jean Howard-Hill, national chair, NRAAC, National Republican African American Caucus
John Adams Hyman, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
[edit] I
Niger Innis, commentator and activist
[edit] J
Alphonso Jackson, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Raynard Jackson, political consultant and political analyst for WUSA*9 TV (CBS affiliate) in Washington, DC
Shawn James, businessman, real estate investor and developer, Republican Georgia House of Representative candidate
Dr. Mildred Fay Jefferson, first African-American woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School; pro-life movement leader; Republican candidate for U.S. House and U.S. Senate [8]
Wallace B. Jefferson, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Texas
Timothy F. Johnson, Ph.D., Vice Chairman, North Carolina Republican Party and founder of the Frederick Douglass Foundation
Justin Jordan, President of Texas College Republicans, Conservative activist
[edit] K
Alan Keyes, former member of the Republican party and nominee for the U.S. Senate.
Alveda King, former member of the Georgia House of Representatives. Niece of Martin Luther King, Jr.
Martin Luther King, Jr., Baptist minister, political activist, and prominent leader in the African-American Civil Rights Movement
Don King, boxing promoter
Yaphet Kotto, actor
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John Mercer Langston, former U.S. Representative from Virginia
Jefferson Franklin Long, former U.S. Representative from Georgia
John Roy Lynch, former U.S. Representative from Mississippi
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Karl Malone, former professional basketball player
Lenny McAllister, political analyst, community activist, and author
Angela McGlowan, political analyst
Henry E. McKoy, former North Carolina State Senator, former Peace Corps Africa Director, 2002-2009
Donald K. McLaurin, mayor of Trotwood, Ohio [9]
James Meredith, civil rights leader
Thomas Ezekiel Miller, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
George Washington Murray, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
Steven Mullins, Connecticut politician, First African American nominee for State Comptroller in state history. West Haven Commissioner.
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Charles Edmund Nash, former U.S Representative from Louisiana
Constance Berry Newman, U.S. diplomat; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs; member of International Republican Institute
Dr. Belinda Noah, attorney, law professor, and 2006 candidate for the Florida United States Senate
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Rod Paige, seventh U.S. Secretary of Education
Gregory Parker, Comal County Commissioner, Commissioner Texas State Commission on Emergency Communications
Sherman Parker, Missouri state representative, running for U.S. House of Representatives
Star Parker, author, activist, and founder of CURE
Edward J. Perkins, first African-American U.S. ambassador to South Africa
Jesse Lee Peterson, civil rights activist, founder of Brotherhood of New Destiny
Joseph C. Phillips, actor and commentator
Samuel Pierce, former HUD Secretary
P. B. S. Pinchback, twenty-fourth governor of Louisiana; first African-American governor of a U.S. state
Homer Plessy, plaintiff in Plessy v. Ferguson
Colin Powell, 65th United States Secretary of State
Pierre-Richard Prosper, former Bush Administration war crimes official
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Kristal C. Quarker, Health and Education Policy Advisor to Representative Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI-11), 2008 Chairwoman of the Black Republican Congressional Staff Association
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Chris Rock, American Comedian/ Actor.
Joseph H. Rainey, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina, first African American to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives
James T. Rapier, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
Hiram Rhodes Revels, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve in the U.S. Senate
Condoleezza Rice, sixty-sixth U.S. Secretary of State
Frances Rice, Chairman of National Black Republican Association
Jackie Robinson, first African-American Major League Baseball player of the modern era
Jack E. Robinson II, Boston-area businessman, civil rights activist
Jack E. Robinson III, former U.S. Senate, Secretary of State, and U.S. House nominee from Massachusetts
Vernon Robinson, former candidate for U.S. House of Representatives from North Carolina
Angel Joy Rocker, former candidate for President [10]
Joe Rogers, former Lieutenant Governor of Colorado, youngest Lieutenant Governor in Colorado history
Carson Ross Mayor of Blue Springs, MO, Fmr. Missouri State Rep.
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Robert Smalls, South Carolina
Joshua I. Smith, appointed commissioner of Minority Business Development by President George H. W. Bush
DeForest “Buster” Soaries, former New Jersey Secretary of State
Thomas Sowell, economist, writer and commentator
Michael S. Steele, political commentator, former Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, former candidate for the U.S. Senate and elected chairman of the Republican National Committee.
Sage Steele, television sports anchor
Lynn Swann, former NFL player, former Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate
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Noel C. Taylor – Mayor of Roanoke, Virginia from 1975 to 1992.[11]
Clarence Thomas, associate justice of the United States Supreme Court
Sojourner Truth, abolitionist speaker and suffrage advocate
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Sheryl Underwood, comedienne and entertainer
James L. Usry, former mayor of Atlantic City, New Jersey
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William T. Vernon, Registrar of the Treasury under President Theodore Roosevelt [12]
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Dale Wainwright, Associate Justice of the Texas Supreme Court
Jimmie Walker, actor and comedian
Eric M. Wallace, Publisher of Freedom’s Journal Magazine [13]
Zachary Ward, economist
Booker T. Washington, educator and activist
Maurice Washington, Nevada State Senator
J. C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma
Ida B. Wells, civil rights advocate, co-founder of the NAACP
Allen West, candidate for U.S. House of Representatives from Florida
J. Ernest Wilkins, Sr., Assistant Secretary of Labor under President Eisenhower [14]
Armstrong Williams, radio and television commentator
Michael L. Williams, Texas Railroad Commissioner
Jeffrey L. Williams, President of Virginia Commonwealth University Chapter of Republicans for Black Empowerment
Walter E. Williams, author, commentator, economist
Vern Williams, member of the National Mathematics Advisory Panel
Anthony Keith Womack , Minister, Educator and Philanthropist
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I understand what you are saying Mike, yet put in mind that the menality to censor and sqelch opposing voices is exactly what the neo-Liberal Left groups are wanting Conservatives groups to adopt so Conservative groups can be painted as facist. B-Rob’s posting mannerisms is baiting material mainly to encourage people to insult and name call him and to call for his censorship, and once that censorship happens he’ll play the victim card on various Liberal forums to demean the opposition (in this case this blog and you and me).
I will not treat B-Rob as a professional, but an amature, due to his claims of being an Attorney due to the very childish mannerisms to namecall and demean his opposing views do not reflect someone within such a legal profession, but I refuse to name call him in the same way he has us. He has foolishly re-written history in an attempt to paint Republicans as the Confederate Party and has taken facts and taken them out of context badly, and for that it is in the rightful case for people such as us to question his “facts” and respond in kind with true facts and leave it up to others to chose what they believe. I will point out I have personaly handled forum moderation in the past, mostly video game community forums, which have users who visit who have vastly different views and opinions. The only time I have personaly had to ban or tempban people was those who violated the basic terms of service of the forums which basicly had the outlined rules of do not harrass other users, post racist materials, or create a violent enviorment (violent in terms of encouraging hacking/cracking attempts). Video Game Communities are very… aggressive in nature where religon and politics can boil down to smears between forum goers, and those who end up with even temporary bans have quickly fell behind the victim card from admin/moderator abuse and how unjust the ban was by claiming the moderator who placed the ban didn’t subscribe to the same mindset as the troublemaker.
B-Rob’s comments and attempts to devaule his opposition is remotely on par with the groups of people I have had to issue tempbans/permabans on who posted grossly disturbing racist comments and images following the comments. Also as part of the Freedom of Speech, we are also given the ablity of Freedom to Ignore and as such while he should be free to type his mind we should enact our ablity to ignore his comments. Basicly, “Don’t feed the trolls.” 4Chan is a moderator’s nightmare.
I will not treat B-Rob as a professional, but an amature, due to his claims of being an Attorney due to the very childish mannerisms to namecall and demean his opposing views do not reflect someone within such a legal profession, but I refuse to name call him in the same way he has us.
By gosh… more generous towards lawyers than I’d be. Kudos to your high road.
But I will say this. The GOP has no more moral high ground than Dems for past behavior towards slavery and/or racism. While one may argue the nuances as to who bears more responsibility in their attitudes and actions five decades ago, I will also state that shoeless billy bob wasn’t even in – or barely at best – diapers at that time. He has no personal grounds for his whining, and every reason to be gracious and appreciative of those who fought to ensure he had his chance… as an American… for the success he enjoys today.
This is the problem with shoeless billy bob… fighting battles that have been legally resolved via federal law before he began singing “itsy bitsy spider”. Instead he revels in the past for his talking points when he should be looking around at his, and HIS President’s catapult to success via American opportunity. An opportunity I will say, once again, that he and HIS President are predisposed to deny to his children and grandchildren in order to gain social justice power.
And that achievement of power will be the economic ruin of this nation… and well as the opportunity offered to the average man in the street of any color.
MataHarley, I have seen extremely disturbing debates over simple matters such as which game system is better than another turn into highly disturbing “You’re a *insert insult here*” flame wars and have had to do damage control for the forums/ game servers. Hence my, “highground” due to years of community moderation. I have been chewed out by users on both sides of the political prisim over the years and have come to this mindset to dealing with forum, “trolls.” I’ve stepped out of that community last year due to how much venom floats both in forums and in onlilne games.
Also, I have been an instructor of self defense and combat styles. While I may have never served in the United States Military such as Old Trooper;my instructors (and Masters) was a former United States Marine, a former Russian Spetznaz, and a former South Korean Special Ops member and have been introduced to various different ideologies with how to deal with oppositions ranging from direct force to subtle solutions which include hammering forth the facts now matter how much distraction the opposition tries. The Russian, of whom I won’t name, was surprisingly grateful to be living in Kansas once the Wall fell and was quick to hammer into my head that I should be quick to question my Government at all times even if it’s people I would politicaly support so I agree fully with your statement of the GOP and the Democrat parties in terms of moral grounds. The encumbent Republicans in Congress and Senate that represent Kansas are exteremly out of touch of issues at hand for my State and the former Governor Seblius was just as distant to her fellow citizen’s true problems and expanded spending into many programs that has proven fiscally fatal for the State of Kansas and the Commerical sector.
A Booker T. Washington quote that pretty much sums up his thoughts:
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
There is also a class of people that are career politicians that give lip service to “Civil Rights”, promote Affirmative Action by lowering the bar in exchange for votes and feed at the Public Trough.
The Founding Fathers never envisioned Career Politicians as a superior class of folks. There is No Reference made in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution of Social or Economic Justice either.
Although I can legitimately claim Minority Status, I never have. I have Native American kinfolk that live on reservations in North Dakota that were treated more harshly than any Southern Slaves. Some still reside there. Over the years I have grown to despise hyphenated Americans because as Booker T. stated, overcoming hardships through diligent hard work is the measuring stick, not the tint of your skin or who your Great Grandparents were. The Military offered me the opportunity to do that hard work and I have earned two advanced degrees from schools that accepted me on merit not race. The Military promoted me based upon performance, not on any quota. My current responsibilities came from getting results in places like Somalia, the Balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan with limited resources.
Regarding Mr. B-Rob’s comments, he comes off like a punk with a chip on his shoulder regardless of what he claims to be. Lawyers are a dime a dozen and so are folks that try to play the schoolyard bully past the age of 12 on internet forums. Now if you will excuse me, I am tasked with my part on winning Mr. Obama’s War. He owns the damn thing now. Oh and by the way, I have no political party affiliation nor will I ever. I despise racists, career politicians and folks past the age of 12 that suffer from arrested adolescence and offer personal insults instead of logic.
For the Republicans to now claim a newly-found racial sensitivity is quite amusing to say the least. If that is the case, why the hell did they choose the dumbest black guy they could possibly find to chair the RNC? Racial sensitivity? Please.
Harry Reid will survive this little snafu he’s gotten into – but just barely. As the numbers stand, he is not likely to be reelected this November. He should step aside with dignity and allow his party to nominate someone with a better chance of winning on Election Day. Maybe he will do the right thing – who knows?. In spite of everything he strikes me as essentially a decent guy. He should just go back to Nevada to a dignified retirement and bask in the glow of his career as a public servant – or go to work as a lobbyist for the gambling industry – anything. He just needs to realize that his number is up.
Reid’s comments, while inarticulate, hardly constitute the fuss that is currently being made. All it really amounts to is the GOP’s Kvetch Du Jour. They have so little credibility left that it really is quite touching watching them stoop to these non-issues. It is total desperation on their part. Today it is Harry Reid’s harmless gaffe; tomorrow it will be something equally stupid and irrelevant. Just you wait and see.
Mata —
I was wrong . . . again. I stand corrected. You did NOT say that Blacks voted Dem because of welfare. You actually said:
“But I don’t wonder why minorities ‘avoid’ the GOP like ‘the plague’… which they don’t, save in your mind. They just look at your party, which promises them gas in their car, heating oil, affirmative action reverse discrimination, and all their needs that will be provided by the neighboring rich guy who has more than they do. Social justice, you promise. You cater to a freeloader mentality, and promise they have no need for responsibility of self because government will be there in event they trip. Sounds like sheer nirvana to most.”
I stand corrected — it not just Blacks who you believe have the “freeloader mentality” and are looking for government cheese. No, you think it is all the minorities that are so motivated. And that is why you think they vote Dem.
Glad we got that cleared up.
B-Rob,
Cons, unless you figure out that some BIG part of your argument is based on a falacy, you are condemned to be a regional, aging lily white party in a time when the country is getting more diverse. Think about it . . . .
Your above statement speaks volumes about you. I don’t cast my vote based on who else is casting their ballot like me. I am casting my vote based on core principles and values. The majority is not always right. Several instances in history should remind you of this, (flat earth, belief that our planet is the center of the universe, sickness caused by demons in the bloodstream…) Your statement is made even sillier when you consider that noone in our Nation could possibly win an election without the votes of a lot of lilly white folks voting for them, and that includes the Zero who got elected President. I see nothing wrong with being lilly white. I was born that way, it is not how I define myself. Apparently though, it would seem that you are incapable of defining anybody in any other manner other than skin color. Think about it……..
Er yeah . . . a Pulitzer Prize winner weighs in
“Harry Reid’s comments were crudely put, but true”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/11/AR2010011103066.html?wpisrc=nl_pmheadline
Money quote:
“Skin color among African Americans is not to be discussed in polite company, so Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s newly disclosed remark about President Obama — that voters are more comfortable with him because he’s light-skinned — offended decorum. But it was surely true. * * *
“Color bias has always existed in this country. We don’t talk about it because we think of color as subordinate to racial identification. There are African Americans with skin so light-hued that only contextual clues speak to the question of race. I remember once looking up some distant cousins on my father’s side. They were so fair of hair and ruddy of cheek that I thought I’d gone to the wrong house, until one of them greeted me in what I guess Reid would call ‘Negro dialect.’
* * *
“The Brazilian system minimized racial friction on an interpersonal level. The American system fostered such friction, through formal and informal codes that enforced racial segregation. But our “one-drop” paradigm also created great racial solidarity among African Americans, while maximizing our numbers. We fought, marched, sat in, struggled and eventually made tremendous strides toward equality. The most recent, of course, was Obama’s election, which is difficult to imagine happening in Brazil — or, for that matter, in any other country where there is a large, historically oppressed minority group.
“Brazil has now begun addressing long-standing racial disparities through affirmative action initiatives. But the upper reaches of that society — the financial district in Sao Paulo, say, or the government ministries in Brasilia — are still so exclusively white that they look like bits and pieces of Portugal that somehow ended up on the wrong side of the ocean.
“American society’s focus on race instead of color explains why what Harry Reid said was so rude. But I don’t think it can be a coincidence that so many pioneers — Edward Brooke, the first black senator since Reconstruction; Thurgood Marshall, the first black Supreme Court justice; Colin Powell, the first black secretary of state — have been lighter-skinned. Reid’s analysis was probably good sociology, even if it was bad politics.”
Flyover, the question I raised was why minorities cast THEIR VOTES.
Mata offered the “they all care about welfare” theory.
I asked Mike to weigh in, but he is in some kind of cone of silence.
I woudl love to hear your theory.
You can gleen my theory from what I have posted above: minorities vote Dem because anti-minority racists are in the GOP. Not out of love of the Dem Party, or even total agreement with what the Dems believe (take abortion or gun control). Nope, why they vote Dem can best be shown by three things that have happened in the last three years:
Macaca, Palin rallies and “Sonia Sotomayor is not qualified”
If you can’t understand how those three incidents, and the GOPs response to them, doomed the GOP to another generation of non-parity among minority voters, then I don’t know what to say.
And save your “Bob Byrd was in the KKK” blasts. Given that his party just nominated and elected a Black president, it’s a little, shall we say, tired . . . .
Dem Party Platform, 2008
What is this “we” but at the expense of the taxpayer? How is this accomplished but by increased social welfare programs?
As I pointed out in my post INRE Obama’s mistaken notion for job creation actually being an instrument of economic destruction, the Spain alternative energy projects that have been completed went under research scrutiny, to which the conclusion was that it was “terribly counterproductive economically”. When annual productivity, rising taxes, more expensive energy and robbery of private sector funds were factored in, the $37 bil costs to sustain 50,200 jobs at $737K per green job was the equivalent of destroying 5.28 private sector jobs to sustain one green job.
Now there’s some math that is bound to slide over the head of a guy who looks at a studio filled with 150-200 attendees, and counts 5-15.
It’s not only a job killer, but also in direct conflict with aiding those having a problem heating their homes by favoring more expensive alternatives and replacing affordable energy that could be had with shale gas/oil development here on our shores.
Here’s another social welfare program projection, but with doublespeak.
That’s rich…. they “know” American’s *don’t* want government solutions (most especially expensive ones…), BUT…… In essence they say, “sure… BUT this is an exception”. See pg 11 of their platform PDF for that social welfare “jump start” to the economy of $50 billion…. only about $737 bil shy of reality, eh? But then, as billy bob aptly demonstrates, math isn’t the strong suit of Dems.
Naw…. Dem’s don’t vote for social welfare and social justice. That just couldn’t be what they stand for, eh?
This one makes me roar…
How is it in blog-speak? Oh yes… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tell ya what, billy bob. Why don’t you ask *your* friends if they vote Democrat because of the party platform of spreading the wealth.
Patvann —
One of these days when you have a relationship with an actual person, and not just your right hand, you will come to understand that some times people are not meant to be together. Until then, you will have to take my word on it . . . .
Oh yes, billy bob… wanna know where I got the “promises them gas in their car, heating oil, affirmative action reverse discrimination, and all their needs that will be provided by the neighboring rich guy who has more than they do” bit? Your party platform
Pg 11: We will provide an immediate energy rebate to American families struggling with the record price of gasoline and the skyrocketing cost of other necessities – to spend on those basic needs and energy efficient measures.
Pg 7: Gas and home heating costs are squeezing seniors and working families alike.
Pg 7: We believe that every American, whatever their background or station in life, should have the chance to get a good education, to work at a good job with good wages, to raise and provide for a family, to live in safe surroundings, and to retire with dignity and security.
Pg 7: A great nation now demands that its leaders abandon the politics of partisan division and find creative solutions to promote the common good. A people that prizes candor, accountability, and fairness insists that a government of the people must level with them and champion the interests of all American families.
Pg 54: We support affirmative action, including in federal contracting and higher education, to make sure that those locked out of the doors of opportunity will be able to walk through those doors in the future
Uh… how is it Aye puts it? DAYUM!
Hey, this ought to give you all a laugh… anyone remember this Dem Party Platform gem?
I repeat… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Flyovercountry: and billy bob wonders why I consider him racist….
Mata —
Not sure how to break it to you, but that platform and that candidate got more than 350 electoral votes. They won by close to 10 million heads, got more votes than any candidate in history, and turned the likes of Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana, Iowa, and Colorado blue. Those are NOT Dem states and they are NOT majority minority states. Whatever he was sellin’, the voters were buyin’. You may not like the Dem platform, but a whole siht-load more people liked that then the flummory the other crew was offering. Or is it that they thought the Dem candidate was superior? Probably a little of both.
Flyover —
Good thing you don’t mind being in the poweless minority. Because from the looks of the posts here, you cons have not learned a damn thing from that election.
Mata and Fly —
I am now reading “Ayn Rand and the World that She Made” by Anne Heller. You and Mata kind of remind me Ayn, what with the whole self-reverential and self-referential focus. But reading between the lines, Rand’s pronouncements of her own high selfworth strike me as signifying one of the Cluster B. personality disorders in the DSM IV. Alas, Fly and Mata, methinks you two, too, are on that end of the chart.
Gotta go folks! it’s been fun!
Thank you for confirming what I said. That minorities are voting Dim for the stated Dem social welfare platform. I didn’t say anything about others who are not minorities, but also vote for the same social welfare. Afterall, it was you who only decided to address minorities… er, no, only the blacks-with-a-capital-A… as the prime focus. But social welfare is a Dim thing…. based on their stated, printed, distributed platform.
Then, of course, if polls are to be believed, about 6-7% of those voters are now figuring out that the promised gravy train isn’t free afterall, and too expensive a load for the nation at large to carry.
This also, of course, blows out your theory that it’s merely a racist GOP party that commanded their votes… except for your chosen friends, of course who feel “unwelcome” for their color.
Flashback January 21, 2007: The Washington Times
Collapsing Venezuela ( The USA)
Flashback January 21, 2007: The Washington Times nails it with Collapsing Venezuela.
“If Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez (President Obama) deliberately intended to sabotage his nation’s economy, he would be hard-pressed to do anything different from what he is now doing to his country.
It has been widely reported that Mr. Chavez (President Obama) has been increasingly taking control of the oil, telecommunications and energy, housing, banking, auto, and insurance sectors, as well as the media. What has not been reported is the full extent of the corruption in Venezuela (the United States) and how this ultimately will destroy the economy.
The financial scandal taking place is far bigger than Enron, and may ultimately even exceed the U.N. “oil-for-food” scandal, the biggest financial disgrace of all time.
Since 2004, the Venezuelan Central Bank (Fed) has transferred about $22.5 billion untold $billions to accounts abroad by the Chavez government held by foreign governments, and about $12 billion all of that remains unaccounted for. It has also been reported that the gold reserves have been removed from the Central Bank.
While the rest of the world has been moving away from socialism for the last quarter-century for good reason, Venezuela (the United States) is becoming socialist. We know governmental use of central banks to basically print money to cover expenditures results in rising inflation and eventually monetary meltdown.
And, finally, we know that when a state becomes totally corrupt an economic collapse always follows. Mr. Chavez (President Obama) and his cronies had already been spending far more than they were taking in and you can bet the blood from the innocent Venezuelan people (United States citizens) will be drained long before those on the take from Mr. Chavez (President Obama) agree to have their looting stopped.
The original Washington Times article was extremely good, but a few minor changes would have made it the most prophetically accurate post the world had ever seen.”
Mata — you are straying farther and farther and farther from the subject matter of the top post. I though we were talking about Harry Reid noticing Obama was beige and talked pretty, and Trent Lott’s endorsement of child rapist/segregationist Strom Thurmond. You are now doing a line by line critique of the WINNING platform . . . of the party that won that notoriously Communistic demographic “White suburban females with college education”. yeah, that’ll work.
And Mata — before you go calling someone else “racist” you might want to cogitate on the underlying racism of your whole “minorities vote for welfare” theory. In fact . . . why not read this?
“It’s My Party, But I Don’t Feel Part of It”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/20/AR2008112002959.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Money quote:
“I can vouch that being a moderate black Republican isn’t easy. My black GOP colleagues and I endure endless ridicule and questioning from other African Americans, including close friends and family members who wonder how we can belong to a political party that is so overwhelmingly white, male, Southern, conservative and seemingly closed to ethnic minorities.
“And truth be told, it’s sometimes an ill fit. Consider the comments of Shannon Reeves, an African American who started a college Republican chapter at Grambling State University in 1988. In 2003, he wrote an open letter to the party after it was disclosed that in 1999, a newsletter published by the then-vice chairman of the California Republican Party had carried an essay suggesting that the country would have been better off if the South had won the Civil War.
“‘I am tired of being embarrassed by elected Republican officials who have no sensitivity for issues that alienate whole segments of our population,’ Reeves wrote. ‘This embarrassment is different for a black Republican. Not only do we have to sit in rooms and behave professionally towards Republicans who share this ideology, we have to go home to a hostile environment where we are called Uncle Tom and maligned as a sell-out to the community because of our membership in the Republican Party.’
“With those words Reeves expressed what many of us have felt over the years — and felt again during the recent campaign as we listened to racially coded Republican ads and speeches aimed at scaring working-class and rural white voters about Obama. Reeves expressed why so many of us, including me, ended up, after struggling with our consciences, supporting and voting for the Illinois senator.”
* * * * *
This is from two people who SUPPORT the GOP and note the flat out racists in your midst. Why the GOP does nothing to address this, is beyond me. But all I can say is —
Keep it up! Keep doing what you are doing! It’s working so well in diversifying the party!
HA HA HA HA!
Mata — Post 64 is unintelligible. Lost of sentence fragments that make no sense.
Been married to the same woman for 22 years, Robbie.
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu80/Patvann/WeddingPictureSmall.jpg
Dang… back already, billy bob? We hardly missed ya! LOL
Sorry you don’t find the content intelligible. Don’t think removing your shoes will help for that one, guy. Let’s see if I can help:
1: You wanted only to discuss why minorities… no, make that blacks… don’t vote GOP. You, of course, suggest it’s because the GOP is filled with racists and has a racist history. Rather absurd in itself since racism transcends party lines. But hey… your argument.
2: I responded that minorities (including blacks as a minority) vote Dim (not a typo) because of the social welfare platform. Then I provided your party’s platform language to prove my bullet points of promised aid for gas, heating oil, affirmative action etal.
3: You then decided to abandon the original focus on minorities… er blacks… and point out many voted for the social welfare package that were not minorities.
huh?
4: I then reminded you that it was YOU who choose to focus only on minorities… er, blacks… and not the Dim voter (again, not a typo) of all stripes. Had we started out discussing why *all* Dems vote Dem, I would have said exactly the same. It’s because of the social welfare thrust…. a platform that caters to a free loading mentality. Government please give me gas for the car, give me heating oil, give me affirmative action.
6: After providing my bullet points in your party platform, you then decided to tout the electorate win. A skip-trod moment of your own. I thought it only fair to update your news that YOURE POTUS is losing the support of the moderates and indy’s who aided his launch to the Oval Office.
ta ta now
And Mata —
That was actually a nice effort trying to clean up your initial offensive comment about welfare being what motivates minorities to vote Dem. Looping back a couple paragraphs of a hundred page platform — as if that is what you were REALLY referring to. Pretty good try, lady!
Alas, there are too many of your fellow travelers who say it with such gusto as to undercut your more delicate spin job:
http://thenewrepublicans.net/2008/12/18/the-gop%E2%80%99s-inability-to-court-the-minority-vote/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2207404/posts
Like I said — if you ask minority professionals why they vote Dem, their supposed love of welfare ain’t gonna be on the list. But like I said before — keep pushing that welfare theory anyway! You are doing great with it! Just DON’T follow this column’s advice:
http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/11/two-quick-responses/
“The other piece is that E.D. is definitely underestimating the extent to which respect has a significant impact on minority voting. Simply put, even if Democratic policies had a negligible effect on the material well-being of minority voters, I still think that you would see large-scale minority support for the Democratic Party, if only because Democrats are the party that takes minority concerns seriously. More often than not, Republicans are either dismissive of or actively hostile to minority interests. With that kind of record – and a relatively friendly Democratic Party – it really shouldn’t come as any surprise that minorities are reliable Democratic voters.”
And there it is . . . the GOP doesn’t get minority votes anywhere near parity because they simply don’t act as if they want them!
Mata, as I said — you think my wife’s Black physician who makes $400,000 or so per year votes Dem because of welfare. But you don’t seem to grasp why that is patently offensive.
But I just proved my broader point about Black in particular and minorities in general. Regardless of social class, they all vote Dem. Only cons actually believe its because of welfare.
But, like I said! Keep at it! Keep thinking THATS the reason and that it has nothing to do with the actual people in, or the positions of, the GOP!
So your wealthy physican friend votes Dim because she opposes social welfare programs? Yeah… makes alot of sense.
Oh wait… she’s one of your two sources that proclaim it’s all about GOP racism and not Dem party social welfare platforms. So she disagrees with government social welfare, but votes that way anyway because she feels “unwelcome” in the GOP. Got it. Yeah. I’m sure that’s a common reason shared by many. LOL
Tell you what I find offensive… that all of us are to bow to mandated “charity”, the recipients to be chosen by your party. And for that, the red tape bureaucracy creams off excessive funds off the top for inefficient admin fees, and the pittance then filters down to the intended recipient. Good plan….
This little economic catch 22 manages to quash opportunity for all.. most especially for those who never really wanted the government hand out to begin with, but just the opportunity to stand on their feet without being robbed by the likes of Obama/Pelosi/Reid.
I am a little disturbed how little B-Rob has shown his understanding of basic United States History by trying to connect Republicans to Jim Crow Laws of which were penned and enforced by Democrats in the former Confederate States after losing the Civil War. It took Republican backing to pass The Civil Rights Act of 1964 because many Democrat Congressmen and Senators were filibustering President Johnson’s attempts to destroy Jim Crow Laws his own Party was embracing. Last I recall, Johnson was not a Republican.
Sorry for the double post:
B-Rob when you quote someone such as Michael Steele such as:
Do you understand that this quote was not even reference to internal GOP situations and enviorment but by external Democrat harrassment due to not following a certain pattern line of behavior? Even Allen West of Florida has been slammed by Democrat opponets as being nothing but a drone of the GOP and not being a true Black and going Democrat. Your understanding of the context of dicussions is highly questionable.
nuff said.
Sorry billy bob… had to bail your comment #71 out of spam. BTW, the filter is color blind, and very PC. It snags us all from time to time.
I read your official party platform, tho it was unnecessary. Rather a repeat of previous with new “hope and change” stuff, and more emphasis why we have to expand the social welfare projects in these economic times. Altho what I find most amusing is your attempt to fill in the blanks as to what I “REALLY” meant. Guess that deity complex doesn’t leave easily, eh?
You are a racist, billy bob, because you continually try to paint me as one simply because I don’t share your suggested cures for opportunity for all, and solutions to our economic crunch. You assume that’s all because of a racial prejudice. That you make this call without reading my volume of posts of the year or so I’ve been here, or on my previous blog, is your research flaw. First rule… know your rabbit. All I can say is, since you are predictable in your prosecution, I certainly hope you have great paralegals at your fingertips thru your firm.’
Not “first” on the list… can I assume and portend (as you constantly do about me) that means it IS on “the list”???
I will agree that if you ask the average Dem if they vote that way because they want social welfare programs at the expense of all, most would say no. But that’s merely parsing words, and chosing careful wording, isn’t it?
If I ask any US citizen, regardless of party, “do you want everyone to never experience need and have opportunities to be wealthy?”, I guarantee you everyone would say YES without question.
If I ask“do you want everyone to never experience need, and are willing to give the government the power to limit your own income and opportunities in order for all to be wealthy or, at least, minimally cared for”, is the answer the same?
Absolutely not.
It’s all in the way you word the questions. Welcome to Alinsky and community organizing. Truth is expendable in order to achieve the end goal.
However the majority don’t realize the economics and repercussions of socialized programs. Yet the more they learn of the costs of “free” social justice, the more that turn away. The question is, can they turn away in time to save an economy that hangs by a thread with such decisions?
And let’s address this particular statement, which lies at the heart of your class racism/warfare:
I am not “my fellow travelers”. Nor are my fellow travelers clones. We are all individuals with varying degrees of differing opinions. We support concepts, and candidates who reflect those concepts. You speak, think, and act in class warfare. There is no individualism to you… only classes that need your sage advice. Therein lies your problem, not only as a presenter of your political theories, but as a human being.
And while I don’t like Wiki that much:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
@Mr. Irons: Just to expand some links and content on your Steele quote… you can find more at a blog from billy bob’s back yard: It is also where I picked up Steele’s complaint about being treated like an “Uncle Tom”… a charge of racism which billy bob tries to lay at my feet. But then, he lives in
Chicago,… er, Cleveland…. must be quite busy with his court docket, and evidently doesn’t get all the news. So he can’t possibly know it was a comment that originated from those who are receiving peer pressure from fellow socialist blacks-with-a-capital-A – ahem – like billy bob.I really like Steele. His complaints are valid. But unlike billy bob, who insists the GOP is pretty much a bunch of racists, the problem lies more in ramping up a counter “Alinsky community organization” that can effectively challenge the constant onslaught of the socialist welfare Dims who paint the GOP with lies they are racists. Fact vs communicated message. A nuance that whizzes by shoeless billy bob.
I’m a conservative. Were I to see that Steele could actually swing the GOP back into a more effective message system using new technology, I might even call myself a Republican one day. But I don’t base my support for concepts based on who has the most effective messaging system via technology.
@MataHarley said “billy bob, had to bail your comment #71 out of spam. ”
I wouldn’t have bothered.
BLOB has yet to make an original or interesting comment. If I wanted to know what George Soros thinks I could go to half a dozen web sites that present that view much better.
I don’t know Mike, bailing out his comment from the spam filter is embracing the Freedom of Speech. It isn’t fair to censor his comments, even if they’re factualy incorrect.
I wish Martian Luther King, Jr. was still alive today as he would have greatly made Presidental matieral for his Political Party… Oh wait, he was a Republican who lead a non-violent march to free Americans from Democratic discrimination in the south…
B-Rob from Clevecago,
Here is a partial list of Famous Black Conservatives who vote the Republican ticket most of the time.
A
Akindele Akinyemi, CEO of One Network and Conservative Educator
Claude Allen, former White House Domestic Policy Advisor
Renee Amoore, health care advocate & founder and president of The Amoore Group, Inc.; former candidate for RNC Co-Chairwoman
[edit] B
Pearl Bailey, singer and actress
Martin D Baker, Republican Candidate for US Congress in Missouri’s First(2010) and Fifth Districts(2008)
J. Kenneth Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio, former gubernatorial candidate
Lynette Boggs, former Las Vegas City Councilwoman, former Clark County, NV commissioner, former candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives
Peter Boulware, former NFL linebacker and Republican candidate for the Florida House of Representatives, District 9.
Jennette Bradley, former Treasurer of the State of Ohio
Edward Brooke, former U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, first African American elected by popular vote to the U.S. Senate
Janice Rogers Brown, a federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals
Blanche Bruce, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve a full term in the U.S. Senate
Victoria Buckley, former Colorado Secretary of State [1]
Pearl Burris-Floyd, North Carolina House of Representatives, 110th District
Keith Butler, Republican national committeeman from Michigan, former councilman for Detroit, minister and former U.S. Senatorial candidate
Wendell N. Butler, Jr., mayor of Chester, Pennsylvania [2]
[edit] C
Herman Cain, businessman and media personality
Jennifer Carroll, Florida State Representative [3]
Clarence H. Carter, Director of the District of Columbia’s Department of Human Services, former administration official under President George W. Bush [4]
Octavius Valentine Catto, civil rights activist and African American baseball pioneer
Henry P. Cheatham, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
Eldridge Cleaver, author and civil rights leader
William Thaddeus Coleman, Jr., fourth United States Secretary of Transportation, first African American Supreme Court Clerk [5] [6] [7]
Ward Connerly, political activist, businessman, and former University of California Regent
Stanley Crouch, American music and cultural critic, syndicated columnist, and novelist
Frank G. Cousins, Jr., Sheriff, Essex County, Ma.
[edit] D
Oscar Stanton de Priest, former U.S. Representative from Illinois
Frederick Douglass, abolitionist, editor, orator, author, and statesman
Clyde Drexler, former professional basketball player
[edit] E
Larry Elder, talk radio host and commentator
Robert Brown Elliott, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
Melvin H. Evans, former U.S. Representative from, and former Governor of, the U.S. Virgin Islands
Charles Evers, civil-rights leader in Mississippi, brother of Medgar Evers
[edit] F
James L. Farmer, Jr., civil rights leader
Arthur Fletcher, official in the administrations of Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and George H.W. Bush; considered the “father of affirmative action”
Gary Franks, former U.S. Representative from Connecticut
Ryan Frazier, Aurora City Councilman, Candidate for United States Senate elections in Colorado, 2010
Samuel B. Fuller, founder and president of the Fuller Products Company, publisher of the New York Age and Pittsburgh Courier, head of the South Side Chicago NAACP, president of the National Negro Business League, and a prominent black Republican
[edit] G
Paul R. Green, Jr., retired Senior Master Sergeant, U.S. Air Force, Businessman, former candidate California State Senate
[edit] H
Jeremiah Haralson, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
Erika Harold, Miss America 2003
James T Harris, radio talk-show host from Milwaukee, Wisc.
Ted Hayes, activist for the homeless
Jean Howard-Hill, national chair, NRAAC, National Republican African American Caucus
John Adams Hyman, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
[edit] I
Niger Innis, commentator and activist
[edit] J
Alphonso Jackson, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Raynard Jackson, political consultant and political analyst for WUSA*9 TV (CBS affiliate) in Washington, DC
Shawn James, businessman, real estate investor and developer, Republican Georgia House of Representative candidate
Dr. Mildred Fay Jefferson, first African-American woman to graduate from Harvard Medical School; pro-life movement leader; Republican candidate for U.S. House and U.S. Senate [8]
Wallace B. Jefferson, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Texas
Timothy F. Johnson, Ph.D., Vice Chairman, North Carolina Republican Party and founder of the Frederick Douglass Foundation
Justin Jordan, President of Texas College Republicans, Conservative activist
[edit] K
Alan Keyes, former member of the Republican party and nominee for the U.S. Senate.
Alveda King, former member of the Georgia House of Representatives. Niece of Martin Luther King, Jr.
Martin Luther King, Jr., Baptist minister, political activist, and prominent leader in the African-American Civil Rights Movement
Don King, boxing promoter
Yaphet Kotto, actor
[edit] L
John Mercer Langston, former U.S. Representative from Virginia
Jefferson Franklin Long, former U.S. Representative from Georgia
John Roy Lynch, former U.S. Representative from Mississippi
[edit] M
Karl Malone, former professional basketball player
Lenny McAllister, political analyst, community activist, and author
Angela McGlowan, political analyst
Henry E. McKoy, former North Carolina State Senator, former Peace Corps Africa Director, 2002-2009
Donald K. McLaurin, mayor of Trotwood, Ohio [9]
James Meredith, civil rights leader
Thomas Ezekiel Miller, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
George Washington Murray, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
Steven Mullins, Connecticut politician, First African American nominee for State Comptroller in state history. West Haven Commissioner.
[edit] N
Charles Edmund Nash, former U.S Representative from Louisiana
Constance Berry Newman, U.S. diplomat; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs; member of International Republican Institute
Dr. Belinda Noah, attorney, law professor, and 2006 candidate for the Florida United States Senate
[edit] O
[edit] P
Rod Paige, seventh U.S. Secretary of Education
Gregory Parker, Comal County Commissioner, Commissioner Texas State Commission on Emergency Communications
Sherman Parker, Missouri state representative, running for U.S. House of Representatives
Star Parker, author, activist, and founder of CURE
Edward J. Perkins, first African-American U.S. ambassador to South Africa
Jesse Lee Peterson, civil rights activist, founder of Brotherhood of New Destiny
Joseph C. Phillips, actor and commentator
Samuel Pierce, former HUD Secretary
P. B. S. Pinchback, twenty-fourth governor of Louisiana; first African-American governor of a U.S. state
Homer Plessy, plaintiff in Plessy v. Ferguson
Colin Powell, 65th United States Secretary of State
Pierre-Richard Prosper, former Bush Administration war crimes official
[edit] Q
Kristal C. Quarker, Health and Education Policy Advisor to Representative Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI-11), 2008 Chairwoman of the Black Republican Congressional Staff Association
[edit] R
Chris Rock, American Comedian/ Actor.
Joseph H. Rainey, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina, first African American to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives
James T. Rapier, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
Hiram Rhodes Revels, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve in the U.S. Senate
Condoleezza Rice, sixty-sixth U.S. Secretary of State
Frances Rice, Chairman of National Black Republican Association
Jackie Robinson, first African-American Major League Baseball player of the modern era
Jack E. Robinson II, Boston-area businessman, civil rights activist
Jack E. Robinson III, former U.S. Senate, Secretary of State, and U.S. House nominee from Massachusetts
Vernon Robinson, former candidate for U.S. House of Representatives from North Carolina
Angel Joy Rocker, former candidate for President [10]
Joe Rogers, former Lieutenant Governor of Colorado, youngest Lieutenant Governor in Colorado history
Carson Ross Mayor of Blue Springs, MO, Fmr. Missouri State Rep.
[edit] S
Robert Smalls, South Carolina
Joshua I. Smith, appointed commissioner of Minority Business Development by President George H. W. Bush
DeForest “Buster” Soaries, former New Jersey Secretary of State
Thomas Sowell, economist, writer and commentator
Michael S. Steele, political commentator, former Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, former candidate for the U.S. Senate and elected chairman of the Republican National Committee.
Sage Steele, television sports anchor
Lynn Swann, former NFL player, former Pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate
[edit] T
Noel C. Taylor – Mayor of Roanoke, Virginia from 1975 to 1992.[11]
Clarence Thomas, associate justice of the United States Supreme Court
Sojourner Truth, abolitionist speaker and suffrage advocate
[edit] U
Sheryl Underwood, comedienne and entertainer
James L. Usry, former mayor of Atlantic City, New Jersey
[edit] V
William T. Vernon, Registrar of the Treasury under President Theodore Roosevelt [12]
[edit] W
Dale Wainwright, Associate Justice of the Texas Supreme Court
Jimmie Walker, actor and comedian
Eric M. Wallace, Publisher of Freedom’s Journal Magazine [13]
Zachary Ward, economist
Booker T. Washington, educator and activist
Maurice Washington, Nevada State Senator
J. C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma
Ida B. Wells, civil rights advocate, co-founder of the NAACP
Allen West, candidate for U.S. House of Representatives from Florida
J. Ernest Wilkins, Sr., Assistant Secretary of Labor under President Eisenhower [14]
Armstrong Williams, radio and television commentator
Michael L. Williams, Texas Railroad Commissioner
Jeffrey L. Williams, President of Virginia Commonwealth University Chapter of Republicans for Black Empowerment
Walter E. Williams, author, commentator, economist
Vern Williams, member of the National Mathematics Advisory Panel
Anthony Keith Womack , Minister, Educator and Philanthropist
[edit] Y
[edit] Z
@Mr. Irons: At some point we just have to say ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
Allowing BLOB to filibuster and constantly move the goalposts of any discussion just encourages his intellectual dishonesty.
I like what Bill Clinton said: a few years ago, a guy like BLOB would be fetching us coffee!
I understand what you are saying Mike, yet put in mind that the menality to censor and sqelch opposing voices is exactly what the neo-Liberal Left groups are wanting Conservatives groups to adopt so Conservative groups can be painted as facist. B-Rob’s posting mannerisms is baiting material mainly to encourage people to insult and name call him and to call for his censorship, and once that censorship happens he’ll play the victim card on various Liberal forums to demean the opposition (in this case this blog and you and me).
I will not treat B-Rob as a professional, but an amature, due to his claims of being an Attorney due to the very childish mannerisms to namecall and demean his opposing views do not reflect someone within such a legal profession, but I refuse to name call him in the same way he has us. He has foolishly re-written history in an attempt to paint Republicans as the Confederate Party and has taken facts and taken them out of context badly, and for that it is in the rightful case for people such as us to question his “facts” and respond in kind with true facts and leave it up to others to chose what they believe. I will point out I have personaly handled forum moderation in the past, mostly video game community forums, which have users who visit who have vastly different views and opinions. The only time I have personaly had to ban or tempban people was those who violated the basic terms of service of the forums which basicly had the outlined rules of do not harrass other users, post racist materials, or create a violent enviorment (violent in terms of encouraging hacking/cracking attempts). Video Game Communities are very… aggressive in nature where religon and politics can boil down to smears between forum goers, and those who end up with even temporary bans have quickly fell behind the victim card from admin/moderator abuse and how unjust the ban was by claiming the moderator who placed the ban didn’t subscribe to the same mindset as the troublemaker.
B-Rob’s comments and attempts to devaule his opposition is remotely on par with the groups of people I have had to issue tempbans/permabans on who posted grossly disturbing racist comments and images following the comments. Also as part of the Freedom of Speech, we are also given the ablity of Freedom to Ignore and as such while he should be free to type his mind we should enact our ablity to ignore his comments. Basicly, “Don’t feed the trolls.” 4Chan is a moderator’s nightmare.
@Mr. Irons, I had to laugh at this:
By gosh… more generous towards lawyers than I’d be. Kudos to your high road.
But I will say this. The GOP has no more moral high ground than Dems for past behavior towards slavery and/or racism. While one may argue the nuances as to who bears more responsibility in their attitudes and actions five decades ago, I will also state that shoeless billy bob wasn’t even in – or barely at best – diapers at that time. He has no personal grounds for his whining, and every reason to be gracious and appreciative of those who fought to ensure he had his chance… as an American… for the success he enjoys today.
This is the problem with shoeless billy bob… fighting battles that have been legally resolved via federal law before he began singing “itsy bitsy spider”. Instead he revels in the past for his talking points when he should be looking around at his, and HIS President’s catapult to success via American opportunity. An opportunity I will say, once again, that he and HIS President are predisposed to deny to his children and grandchildren in order to gain social justice power.
And that achievement of power will be the economic ruin of this nation… and well as the opportunity offered to the average man in the street of any color.
MataHarley, I have seen extremely disturbing debates over simple matters such as which game system is better than another turn into highly disturbing “You’re a *insert insult here*” flame wars and have had to do damage control for the forums/ game servers. Hence my, “highground” due to years of community moderation. I have been chewed out by users on both sides of the political prisim over the years and have come to this mindset to dealing with forum, “trolls.” I’ve stepped out of that community last year due to how much venom floats both in forums and in onlilne games.
Also, I have been an instructor of self defense and combat styles. While I may have never served in the United States Military such as Old Trooper;my instructors (and Masters) was a former United States Marine, a former Russian Spetznaz, and a former South Korean Special Ops member and have been introduced to various different ideologies with how to deal with oppositions ranging from direct force to subtle solutions which include hammering forth the facts now matter how much distraction the opposition tries. The Russian, of whom I won’t name, was surprisingly grateful to be living in Kansas once the Wall fell and was quick to hammer into my head that I should be quick to question my Government at all times even if it’s people I would politicaly support so I agree fully with your statement of the GOP and the Democrat parties in terms of moral grounds. The encumbent Republicans in Congress and Senate that represent Kansas are exteremly out of touch of issues at hand for my State and the former Governor Seblius was just as distant to her fellow citizen’s true problems and expanded spending into many programs that has proven fiscally fatal for the State of Kansas and the Commerical sector.
A Booker T. Washington quote that pretty much sums up his thoughts:
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
There is also a class of people that are career politicians that give lip service to “Civil Rights”, promote Affirmative Action by lowering the bar in exchange for votes and feed at the Public Trough.
The Founding Fathers never envisioned Career Politicians as a superior class of folks. There is No Reference made in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution of Social or Economic Justice either.
Although I can legitimately claim Minority Status, I never have. I have Native American kinfolk that live on reservations in North Dakota that were treated more harshly than any Southern Slaves. Some still reside there. Over the years I have grown to despise hyphenated Americans because as Booker T. stated, overcoming hardships through diligent hard work is the measuring stick, not the tint of your skin or who your Great Grandparents were. The Military offered me the opportunity to do that hard work and I have earned two advanced degrees from schools that accepted me on merit not race. The Military promoted me based upon performance, not on any quota. My current responsibilities came from getting results in places like Somalia, the Balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan with limited resources.
Regarding Mr. B-Rob’s comments, he comes off like a punk with a chip on his shoulder regardless of what he claims to be. Lawyers are a dime a dozen and so are folks that try to play the schoolyard bully past the age of 12 on internet forums. Now if you will excuse me, I am tasked with my part on winning Mr. Obama’s War. He owns the damn thing now. Oh and by the way, I have no political party affiliation nor will I ever. I despise racists, career politicians and folks past the age of 12 that suffer from arrested adolescence and offer personal insults instead of logic.
Take Care!
PV, nice wedding pic, do you still wear a cumberbund?
Skooks
Only for B-Rob, and only when he wears the wig.
For the Republicans to now claim a newly-found racial sensitivity is quite amusing to say the least. If that is the case, why the hell did they choose the dumbest black guy they could possibly find to chair the RNC? Racial sensitivity? Please.
Harry Reid will survive this little snafu he’s gotten into – but just barely. As the numbers stand, he is not likely to be reelected this November. He should step aside with dignity and allow his party to nominate someone with a better chance of winning on Election Day. Maybe he will do the right thing – who knows?. In spite of everything he strikes me as essentially a decent guy. He should just go back to Nevada to a dignified retirement and bask in the glow of his career as a public servant – or go to work as a lobbyist for the gambling industry – anything. He just needs to realize that his number is up.
Reid’s comments, while inarticulate, hardly constitute the fuss that is currently being made. All it really amounts to is the GOP’s Kvetch Du Jour. They have so little credibility left that it really is quite touching watching them stoop to these non-issues. It is total desperation on their part. Today it is Harry Reid’s harmless gaffe; tomorrow it will be something equally stupid and irrelevant. Just you wait and see.
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Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Cheese and rice you people are so full of crap. What a group of pathetic douchebags.
Yeah Tom…This ONE item is the ONLY thing us “cons” have been yelling about this past year.
Pffft.
Not only does our flyby troll have two personalities, it seems that they both enjoy a preoccupation with douchebags.
Is that like a fetish or something?
Larry
Jeebus
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