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MrObson
13 years ago
“enjoys the support of people from both parties”
The opposite is also quite true – “suffers opposition from people of both parties”
I’m on record as predicting that health care reform will pass, the economy will solidify, and GOP over-reaching miscalculations will ensure that Obama and the Dems get the credit for all of it.
If you can use WaPo/CBS polls as “truth” in nation’s opinions, can we then use Fox polls as the same? How about Rasmussen? After all, they have a much larger viewing audience participation than WaPo and ABC combined, and Rasmussen a more accurate prediction record. Perhaps you should see the stats on the losers you portray as indicative of the nation’s opinion.
But then, you should know how I feel about polls anyway.
Your “on records” are piling up. DOH! Perhaps Air American can give you a job as a political landscape soothsayer. They’ve lost most of their “purveyors of hate” mouthpieces to MSNBC.
But, while you’re predicting… I’ll agree that health care will pass. By nefarious, anti-constitutional Congressional rules. And when the repercussions of the financial impact hit the nation’s pocketbook… conveniently timed to coincide well into Obama’s attempted 2nd term… the Dems will pay mightily.
All of the national polls (including Fox and Rasmussen) support my conclusions. What’s important are trends. The trends behind health care reform have stabilized to improved, in the face of withering attack. This provides congressional moderates with cover, which, in my view, ensures the passage of health care reform. It’s this which is important, not absolute numbers on any one issue, which can vary according to how the question is asked and as to the definition of “likely voters.”
As to the ratings for cable stations, they are an inconsequential/negligible segment of the electorate; so it’s inconsequential whether one has higher ratings over another.
Freshman Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) openly lamented the Obama administration’s calculated decision to let the House and Senate craft their own health bills, with the congressman blaming the president for the vast discrepancies between the two bills now.
“The Senate bill and the House bill are on different planets,” Massa said during an appearance on the liberal “Bill Press Radio Show” podcast. “And they’re on different planets because, as much as I want this administration to succeed, they did not present a piece of legislation to the United States Congress.
“We still don’t have a piece of paper that says what his plan is. We’re kind of like pilots flying blind,” he added.
Has anybody else picked up on the pattern that has Reid and Pelosi running one end of Pennsylvania Ave while Obama runs the other end of Pennsylvania Ave, with all parties staying off each other’s turf.
It started with the “stimulus” .. Obama wanted one, Reid and Pelosi wrote it, pretty much without the White House. Then, notice how there have been virtually no major inquiries into administration operations by Reid and Pelosi, and virtually none the other way (with Rangel, Dodd, etc. receiving almost no DOJ activity). Reid and Pelosi haven’t even complained, at least publicly, about the intrusion of the Executive into areas that were disputed during the Bush Administration.
And finally, the above lack of a healthcare bill or written “plan” from the Obama Administration after endless speeches on the topic .. it’s almost as if to send up legislation would break the “deal” that separates their respective fiefdoms or should I say in Chicagoise .. “family territories.”
@openid.aol.com/runnswim: Gee Larry… If everything in Obamaland is so hunky dory then why is it that Democrats still can’t agree on supporting a health bill?
Seems reality isn’t exactly matching up to your cherry pickins’.
John Cooper
13 years ago
The Cloture vote on S.1776 (the ‘Doc Fix’) didn’t occur at 5:30 yesterday afternoon as scheduled. According to The Hill:
Senate Democrats have decided to postpone Monday’s scheduled cloture vote on a bill that would reform how Medicare reimburses doctors and hospitals.
Initially, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) scheduled his motion to end floor debate and bring the so-called ‘doc fix bill’ to a final vote at the beginning of next week. But the leader reportedly changed his mind on Friday, deciding instead to he would vitiate Monday’s vote so both parties’ lawmakers could broker an agreement on a few remaining amendments, his office said Sunday.
“enjoys the support of people from both parties”
The opposite is also quite true – “suffers opposition from people of both parties”
It’s to Obama’s political advantage that he’s seen to be criticized by members of his own party.
Health care reform malcontent has bottomed out.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101902451.html?hpid=topnews
I’m on record as predicting that health care reform will pass, the economy will solidify, and GOP over-reaching miscalculations will ensure that Obama and the Dems get the credit for all of it.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Larry… tsk tsk…
If you can use WaPo/CBS polls as “truth” in nation’s opinions, can we then use Fox polls as the same? How about Rasmussen? After all, they have a much larger viewing audience participation than WaPo and ABC combined, and Rasmussen a more accurate prediction record. Perhaps you should see the stats on the losers you portray as indicative of the nation’s opinion.
But then, you should know how I feel about polls anyway.
Your “on records” are piling up. DOH! Perhaps Air American can give you a job as a political landscape soothsayer. They’ve lost most of their “purveyors of hate” mouthpieces to MSNBC.
But, while you’re predicting… I’ll agree that health care will pass. By nefarious, anti-constitutional Congressional rules. And when the repercussions of the financial impact hit the nation’s pocketbook… conveniently timed to coincide well into Obama’s attempted 2nd term… the Dems will pay mightily.
@mata:
All of the national polls (including Fox and Rasmussen) support my conclusions. What’s important are trends. The trends behind health care reform have stabilized to improved, in the face of withering attack. This provides congressional moderates with cover, which, in my view, ensures the passage of health care reform. It’s this which is important, not absolute numbers on any one issue, which can vary according to how the question is asked and as to the definition of “likely voters.”
As to the ratings for cable stations, they are an inconsequential/negligible segment of the electorate; so it’s inconsequential whether one has higher ratings over another.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Has anybody else picked up on the pattern that has Reid and Pelosi running one end of Pennsylvania Ave while Obama runs the other end of Pennsylvania Ave, with all parties staying off each other’s turf.
It started with the “stimulus” .. Obama wanted one, Reid and Pelosi wrote it, pretty much without the White House. Then, notice how there have been virtually no major inquiries into administration operations by Reid and Pelosi, and virtually none the other way (with Rangel, Dodd, etc. receiving almost no DOJ activity). Reid and Pelosi haven’t even complained, at least publicly, about the intrusion of the Executive into areas that were disputed during the Bush Administration.
And finally, the above lack of a healthcare bill or written “plan” from the Obama Administration after endless speeches on the topic .. it’s almost as if to send up legislation would break the “deal” that separates their respective fiefdoms or should I say in Chicagoise .. “family territories.”
@openid.aol.com/runnswim: Gee Larry… If everything in Obamaland is so hunky dory then why is it that Democrats still can’t agree on supporting a health bill?
Seems reality isn’t exactly matching up to your cherry pickins’.
The Cloture vote on S.1776 (the ‘Doc Fix’) didn’t occur at 5:30 yesterday afternoon as scheduled. According to The Hill: