Court rules Murtha “immune” from Haditha defamation lawsuit

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This makes me ill….. scum. Pure scum.

Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich filed suit against Murtha, claiming that the veteran lawmaker damaged his reputation when he told the press that Wuterich’s squad in 2005 killed civilians in cold blood in Haditha, Iraq.

Wuterich argued that Murtha made false and defamatory statements to the press about Wuterich’s and his comrades’ role in the civilian deaths.

Murtha, a former Marine, used his congressional immunity as his defense, arguing that he made those statements to the press in his official capacity as a member of Congress. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia on Tuesday ruled that Wuterich can’t sue Murtha.

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What BS!!!

From the decision:
http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2009/april/document.pdf

The law is clear that limited
discovery is permitted in a Westfall Act case only when a
plaintiff “allege[s] sufficient facts that, taken as true, would
establish that the defendant[’s] actions exceeded the scope of
[his] employment.” Stokes v. Cross, 327 F.3d 1210, 1215 (D.C.
Cir. 2003). Because Wuterich has failed to meet even this
minimal pleading burden, we vacate the District Court’s order
denying certification pending discovery and remand the case
with instructions to the District Court to substitute the United
States as the defendant in place of Congressman Murtha.
Because the United States has not waived its sovereign
immunity for Wuterich’s tort claims, the District Court will be
required to dismiss his complaint for lack of subject matter
jurisdiction.

also:

The analysis of Wuterich’s allegations is controlled by this
court’s decision in Council on American Islamic Relations v.
Ballenger, 444 F.3d 659 (D.C. Cir. 2006). In that case, the
Council on American-Islamic Relations sued Congressman Cass
Ballenger for defamation and slander after Congressman
Ballenger remarked that the organization was the “fund-raising
arm for Hezbollah” during a conversation with a reporter about
his separation from his wife. Id. at 662. The Government
certified that Congressman Ballenger was acting within the
scope of his employment.

and this:

Consequently, where a plaintiff fails to allege sufficient
facts to rebut the certification, the United States must be
substituted as the defendant because the federal employee is
absolutely immune from suit.
The parties agree that if the
certification is not successfully rebutted in this case, Wuterich’s
action must be dismissed because his claims fall within the
FTCA’s exception for claims “arising out of . . . libel [or]
slander.”

and this:

Also instructive on this point is the court’s recent Westfall
Act decision in Wilson v. Libby, 535 F.3d 697 (D.C. Cir. 2008).
In Wilson, the court upheld the District Court’s ruling that
defendant Bush Administration officials had acted within the
scope of their employment when they disclosed to the media the
previously covert agent status of Valerie Plame Wilson, whose
husband Joseph C. Wilson IV had been an outspoken critic of
the administration’s approach to intelligence issues. Case: 07-5379 Document: 01215614973 Page: 17

And:

Congressman Murtha’s alleged attempts to discredit
Defense Secretary Rumsfeld’s management of the war in Iraq,
no less than the comments of the Bush Administration officials
in the Wilson case, were directly tied to his congressional
political agenda and thus cannot support a claim that the
Congressman acted outside the scope of his employment.

lastly:

Another example is seen in the en banc court’s decision in
In re Cheney, 406 F.3d 723 (D.C. Cir. 2005). In re Cheney
involved suits filed by two nonprofit organizations against the
Vice President and other government officials, alleging that the
National Energy Policy Development Group was subject to the
Federal Advisory Committee Act’s (“FACA”) disclosure
requirements. Id. at 725-27. The District Court had largely
rejected the Government’s motion to dismiss pending discovery
that this court described as “overly broad” and “unbounded in
scope.” Id. at 727 (quoting Cheney, 542 U.S. at 386, 388). The
en banc court granted a writ of mandamus and ordered the case
dismissed, because the plaintiffs had failed to state a claim for
relief under FACA. Id. at 728-31. Importantly, In re Cheney
unequivocally rejected the plaintiffs’ pleas for discovery in order
to find facts that would lend credence to their complaint.

So, the Murtha case was dismissed on the same grounds as the dismissal of the complaint against the Bush admin with respect to the Plame/Wilson affair, the energy lawsuit against VP Cheney, and the Council on American Islamic Relations charges of slander for being described as the “fund-raising
arm for Hezbollah”.

Quotes from the decision:
http://thehill.com/images/stories/news/2009/april/document.pdf

“When a federal
employee is sued for wrongful or negligent conduct, the Act
empowers the Attorney General to certify that the employee
‘was acting within the scope of his office or employment at the
time of the incident out of which the claim arose.’

On May 7, 2007, the Attorney General’s designee invoked
the Westfall Act and certified that “United States Congressman
John Murtha was acting within the scope of his employment as
an employee of the United States at the time of the alleged
incidents.” Westfall Certification (May 7, 2007), reprinted in
Joint Appendix (“J.A.”) 138. Upon filing the certification, the
United States and Congressman Murtha moved to substitute the
United States as the defendant

The analysis of Wuterich’s allegations is controlled by this
court’s decision in Council on American Islamic Relations v.
Ballenger, 444 F.3d 659 (D.C. Cir. 2006). In that case, the
Council on American-Islamic Relations sued Congressman Cass
Ballenger for defamation and slander after Congressman
Ballenger remarked that the organization was the “fund-raising
arm for Hezbollah” during a conversation with a reporter about
his separation from his wife. Id. at 662. The Government
certified that Congressman Ballenger was acting within the
scope of his employment.

Indeed, where comments made in the course of a conversation
on as private a matter as marital status are within the scope of a
congressman’s official duties, it is hard to fathom how
Congressman Murtha’s discussion of grave public policy
concerns relating to the war in Iraq could ever fall outside the
scope of his employment. See Williams v. United States, 71
F.3d 502, 507 (5th Cir. 1995) (holding that a congressman’s
allegedly defamatory remarks during an interview about an
appropriations bill were within the scope of his employment and
noting that “[b]esides participating in debates and voting on the
Congressional floor, a primary obligation of a Member of
Congress in a representative democracy is to serve and respond
to his or her constituents”).

Murtha’s such an asshole.

Try again when he is no longer in congress.
And also when the dems are no longer in control.

We have similar laws in Australia, but protected comments must be made on the floor of parliament itself. If a politician went on the steps out front and said it to the press it’s no longer protected, but then we have stricter (many say too strict) libel laws than the USA.

Murtha is the poster child POS!!! We had a good contender for his seat, but the dems pulled some of their tricks and William Russelllost the seat. I hope that the people in Johnstown wake up for the next elections and show Murtha just what they think of him!

Guess we confer ‘diplomatic’ immunity on so-called congressmen as soon as they leave the protection of the Capitol.

Murtha hates the war in Iraq and has done all he can to subvert it.

Punitive and general articles that may cover murtha. He is retired, isn’t he? And retirees are subject to the UCMJ. Convening Authority would be the Commandant of The Marine Corps.

917. ARTICLE 117. PROVOKING SPEECHES OR GESTURES
Any person subject to this chapter who uses provoking or reproachful words or gestures towards any other person subject to this chapter shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
934. ARTICLE 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

Let’s see a left wing dirtbag lawyer in this world.
Speaking as a member of the congress in his legislative duties, indeed.
I need to dig out the Manual For Courts Martial of The United States.
Any others out there think the same?

Glenn:

I’m was not a member of the armed services (deaf) but what you outline sounds like a start.

Well, perhaps a punch in the face will do Murtha some good. Not that I’m trying to incite anyone, you know. Far be it from me to promote violence against a traitor.

Let’s see a left wing dirtbag lawyer in this world.
Speaking as a member of the congress in his legislative duties, indeed.
I need to dig out the Manual For Courts Martial of The United States.

Yes, but I bet Congress has written the rules such that Congress trumps military.

There are very few “former Marines” in the world. At least the article got that right.

This complaint may have made the Marines feel better but it was doomed from the start. There are very few slander/libel complaints against Congresscritters that would make it past the speech and debate clause of the US Constitution. Since most of us are constitutionalists here, while we find the acts of Murtha to be deplorable and reprehensible, the decision is proper and correct based upon the law and the constitution. As for waiting for Murtha to leave office, that wouldn’t solve the problem (even assuming he had left office within the Statute of Limitations period which probably has expired by now) because the acts were done while he was a Representative and his status at the time of the occurrence not the time of the litigation is the only relevant factor for immunity.

This is unbelievable — there are two sets of laws, one for us, one for the pols.

MataHarley:

Murtha, however, flat out usurped the judicial system and pronounced the Haditha soldiers guilty without a trial.

I remember something like that from the Nixon era, either having to do with William Calley or Charles Manson. I think Nixon said Manson was guilty and Manson held the paper with the bold headline up in front of the jury.

RichardRomano

This is unbelievable — there are two sets of laws, one for us, one for the pols.

Actually, it is believable.
Go back to the Bible. There are many stories of the rulers who believed they were better than the common man.

And to use a line from the kid’s movie Aladdin:
Have you heard of the golden rule- he who has the gold, rules.

The question is whether or not it was truly part of his congressional duties. So far the legal system has said yes.
Hopefully there will be other challenges as it sure didn’t seem to be part of his “duty”.