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its not stimulus its bullshit and i don’t want to be fed a crap sandwich. i was looking at some of the prejects, are you kidding me? dog parks? solar water heaters? i can’t believe anyone in good conscience voted for this. this really makes no sense. when your household budget takes a hit you reduce spending, maybe cut back the cable, lose a phine line, watch the lights being left on, clip coupons for food. you don’t run out and ask for money from someone else to build and addition to your house when you can’t even afford your house. totally fucking retarded. it would be nicet o throw all of these dipshits out of washingon and bring in a team of accountants to straighten shit out on the budget, and then go from there.

Just wanted to mention that thousands of people will be left
without electricity in freezing temps for a week or more.
Yet obama does nothing! obama does not care about white people!

Yeah Hard Right, it’s Obama’s fault that Bush’s FEMA hasn’t been completely revamped in a week and a half.

This is just one more Republican mess to dig out of. Instead of dodging blame, Republicans might do better to try to figure out why these states’ electrical grids are in such crappy shape. And I bet these states aren’t the only ones. It seems like we have an electrical infrastructure designed for operating under perfect conditions only.

It doesn’t matter what Obama does. Unless he is removed from the presidency (for uneligibility), Republicans will NEVER win another election.

Obama Retools Campaign Machine
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090130/pl_afp/uspoliticsinternetobama

EXCERPTS from my prvious link in comment #4

“In a YouTube video as well as an email to the 13 million supporters on his mailing list, the president-elect announced the transformation of “Obama for America” into a new organization, “Organizing for America.”

“You’ve built the largest grass roots movement in history,” Obama told his backers. “And the movement you’ve built is too important to stop growing now.”

“Obama’s already built a fundraising machine that is unparalled,” Graff added. “If he can double it by 2012 there’s not going to be a single person in America who can catch him. ”

“Does anyone think there’s a Republican out there who can raise a billion dollars to run against a sitting president of the United States?”

Speaking of Mark Steyn, has anybody read his latest book “America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It”?
Get this book, it is absolutely fantastic!

Haven’t heard? When the ice storm hit DC, Obama said they had to toughen up, it was nothing like living in Chicago. Then he went back to his office that he keeps “hot enough to grow orchids.” Other than that, I don’t think he is all to concerned about Kentucky, guess he’s depending on that new dem governor to take care of things, they’ve always worked well in the past.

About that std portion Pelosi’s peddling. That had some pretty raunchy stuff in it that was, and I hope it will remain was, included in the sex ed portion of it. They were axing out abstinence ed in favor of sexual identity, teaching high schoolers massage techniques and an assortment of other tawdry acts that doesn’t belong in high schools.

And what happens when we don’t stimulate? What’s that called — Obama is a miserable failure.

The Porkulous bill represented graphically.

Let me just be the first to say, those are some big balls.

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h/t – Suitably Flip

Aye: nice graphic, where is the $4,898,681,252,731.51 of debit added by the Bush administration?

Same song. Same verse.

Your pool really is quite shallow.

@Aye Chihuahua: You’d think that if bl ass t cared so much about the debt run up by Bush OVER EIGHT YEARS he would be hopping mad at the “stimulus” debt which Obama ran up IN ONE WEEK that is approximately one quarter of Bush’s entire amount.

Yes, you would think that if bl ass t was really so concerned with the debt and not just a selective trashing of President Bush he would be appalled at the stimulus bill.

But apparently his outrage seems to be only directed at the man who will forever remain a piker by comparison with Obama where debt is concerned.

As I have said before, bl ass t is nothing more than an enabler for the REALLY big spenders.

“Fair and Balanced” can’t you handle the truth? I think Republicans and Bush loyalists have to be reminded constantly of how bad they handled the economy. That is not to let Obama off the hook if he signs a boondoggle of a bill, but to point out the hypocrisy of the so called right wing who supported Bush’s unprecedented deficit spending.

How does it feel to be living in the Bush economy? Housing values dropped historically (30-40%), Equities Markets drop 50%, Credit markets collapse, Huge increases in unemployment… GDP dropping, recession, depression?

Unregulated trade with China, poison food, lead painted toys, depressed Yuan to wipe out American industries as Bush Administration did NOTHING (except borrow more money from China). And much much more.

mikeA: You’d think that if bl ass t cared so much about the debt run up by Bush OVER EIGHT YEARS he would be hopping mad at the “stimulus” debt which Obama ran up IN ONE WEEK that is approximately one quarter of Bush’s entire amount.

First, you are incorrect as to what Obama has spent as no bill has been signed into law. Second, the present bill has $275 Billion in tax cuts and around $500 Billion in spending, George Bush & Company passed a $700 Billion Bailout for Wall Street, so in my math, Bush & Company not only Nationalized the world’s largest insurance company, AIG, (using Fed Reserve Funds and TARP), but they requested 200 Billion more than Obama.

Again with the “Bush” “Bush” “Bush”.

I asked you once before what spending you have wanted President Bush to have cut but you remained silent.

Should we have cut the spending for:

Prescription drugs?

Afghanistan?

Iraq?

Katrina?

TARP?

(Those are the really big $ projects that come to mind.)

So, put your toes on the line and answer the question.

What would you have cut if you had been president (Lord help us all) for the last eight years?

You have a remarkable number of fingers and a tremendous shortage of answers.

How does it feel to be living in the Bush economy?

That’s a great question.

Actually, it feels pretty good to me.

My home value is up by 21%. I just paid the property taxes Jan 15, so that stands out.

My savings and retirement accounts are both up because I watch them closely and do a good job with risk distribution.

My business is up. Earnings are up, and we just added two new people.

So, yeah, it feels pretty good.

Yeah, Bush spent money to appease democrats. The medicare prescription drug thing was something most democrats fought against. And I remember Teddy Kennedy put his own name on the Bush Education bill that increase education spending by double. But democrats are now blaming bush for fixing education and making prescription drugs available to the elderly.

Oh and don’t forget, as Bob Geldoff is fond of saying, Bush has been screwed by the american press because he has done’ more to end aids in Africa than ony other person ever. So yeah, lets rag on him for bowing to liberal causes again and again in spite of the damage to the deficit.

Now how does ragging on Bush excuse democrats for throwing my money into a fan and calling it ‘stimulus’?

Democrats were told that raising the minimum wage would cause massive layoff and unemployment. The Dems did it anyway. In the month following five hundred thousand people lost jobs just as conservatives foretold. But Dems all have fingers in their ears pretending they did not hear the warnings.

Then democrat policies behind the Community Re-investment Act and the way democcrat congesscritters, like Dodd and Frank, kept any warning about the financial crisis that anyone could see coming a mile away. Bush warned of the collaspe and Dems were all; Nuh Uh! Nuthing wrong here with all this uncapitalised debt. And they refused to entertain any idea of Fannie or Freddie failure. Now they refuse to entertain the idea they are responsible.

Why is it that liberals never see themselves as responsible for anything? Sure the Dems have been in charge of Congress for a mere two years. Already they wiped away 2 miilion jobs alone by raising the minimum wage in less than three months after the legislation passed. The promises of ‘cap and trade’ have caused capital to flee the country for countries where job creation is appreciated.

Look at what Pelosi and crew have done to California? Business is leaving for other states.

Now Pelosi and crew want to chase Your job out of Your state too. Yeah, California needs a bail out.

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money.

Thank you Reckless.

Very nice.

Another round of “Bush” “Bush” “Bush” and spittle flecked head asplodin’ in 3, 2, 1….

Aye Chihuahua: I asked you once before what spending you have wanted President Bush to have cut but you remained silent.

Are you crazy, we argued throughout a thread over Iraq after I did address your question.

Aye: My home value is up by 21%.

Where do you live? Obviously, if that is true, you are in a very select market since most of the rest of the nation is struggling, or do you deny the economic problems?

My savings and retirement accounts are both up because I watch them closely and do a good job with risk distribution.

Oh, tell me about those allocations?

I cannot edit my previous comment. It keeps crawling around in the edit box and I cannot seem to stop the cursor from roaming around. (Windows 7 using IE 8)

But I wanted to add, Obama is eating Waygu steaks ($250.00/lb) while people are freezing to death because Obama’s FEMA is failing to protect anyone.

Maybe if Obama weren’t a racist he would care more about people in need and do something wothwhile other than eat the most expensive meat on the planet a get fat while people are dying.

He has not so much as noticed that 600,000 people are freezing to death while he eats his fancy steaks!

@blast:

Aye Chihuahua: I asked you once before what spending you have wanted President Bush to have cut but you remained silent.

Yes, we argued over Iraq. We determined that you think that brown people should have to “earn” their freedom to live without oppression.

No, you never answered the question. Just like right now.

Where do you live?

I live in small town in GA. The home was built in 1880. I’m not sure that is what you would refer to as a “select market” or not but it is what it is.

The housing market is suffering because the credit market is suffering. The credit market is suffering because of poor legislation like the CRA and gov’t tinkering in things like FannieMae and FreddieMac and lawsuits against banks like the one where BO was the attorney acting on behalf of ACORN.

Oh, tell me about those allocations?

A combination of risk distributions throughout a variety of investments. A close eye on what is going on, and what may go on.

My home value is up. Here in the midwest home prices never became as insanely inflated as both coasts. My home value goes up consistently by about 2 to 3% a year. I have savings. I keep my budget within my earnings. Unlike democrats (i.e California) who don’t understand why, when John F Kennedy cut taxes severely in the early sixties the economy grew until the mid seventies when Jimmuh Cahtah came along and gave Iran to the Mullahs who control it to this day. And Jimmuh was responsible for the Community Re-Investment Act which has bankrupted everyone this last year. But after we had to sit in lines for hours to obtain gas to drive our cars and food prices were through the roof Reagan came in and cut taxes and the economy expanded for the next 20 years.

But the last thing democrats will do is lower taxes. Even though lower taxes creates more jobs and actual tax collections go up when more are working, Democrats are all going, well that is a conservative idea so we cannot do it even if it is the smart thig to do. Because, you know, it would validate the idea that Dems are responsible the current economy stall.

@reckless:

But I wanted to add, Obama is eating Waygu steaks ($250.00/lb) while people are freezing to death because Obama’s FEMA is failing to protect anyone.

He has not so much as noticed that 600,000 people are freezing to death while he eats his fancy steaks!

Didn’t George Bush catch hell because he had a piece of birthday cake while Katrina was a’blowin?

The hypocrisy is striking isn’t it?

reckless: Yeah, Bush spent money to appease democrats.

Oh, the decider actually was the appeaser? Give me a break. That is laughable on its face.

reckless: Now how does ragging on Bush excuse democrats for throwing my money into a fan and calling it ’stimulus’?

It does not excuse democrats (and Obama) for anything. It does point out the hypocrisy involved in some of the commenters and posters here for railing against Obama for the same things that Bush did and then some. Bush ran up the largest deficit in our nations history during what many here called “good economic” times (prior 2007/8).

Add to that, the Bush TARP bailout was $700 Billion, the present democrat ‘stimulus’ package is $500 Billion in spending (and $250 Billion in tax cuts if you consider that spending).

Aye: No, you never answered the question. Just like right now.

Give me a break Aye.


Actually I did address the question.
I did not address specifics of Katrina or Afghanistan, but general principals (balanced budget). I did address Iraq and prescription drugs specifically.

You derailed the discussion on saying I did not like brown people and did not keep to the actual topic of spending.

If I recall, the President can’t pass any budget or stimulus package without the House and Senate creating and passing a budget. Is that right?

So, who created the stimulus package and sent it to Bush’s desk?

@blast:

Once again you’re obfuscating.

You never answered the question then.

You’re not answering it now.

If you had been in the chair behind the desk in the Oval Office, pen in hand (Lord help us) what would you have vetoed?

I gave you a list of the major $$ projects. Feel free to add to it if you like.

We know that you would have taken out the expenses for Iraq because Iraqi blood is not red enough to save. That’s less than $600B.

We know that.

What else would you have stricken?

So, how about less dancing and less finger pointing.

What would you have used your pen on?

Democrap governess on parade. Detroit all council members being investigated, mayor in prison, schools taken over by the state. Police stations cut in half, along with fire stations, population cut from 2.5 million down to 800K. How many more examples do you need BLAST. I would like you to close your mouth and open your eyes and ears, can’t you see what the Democraps have done, and what they really stand for. POWER AT ALL COSTS.

Aye: By the way, your contention that the prescription drug bill was a Rep invention, well, that’s a lie. There’s just no other way to say it. A Rep president signed it, but whose idea was it?

Ummm… A LIE????? The bill was introduced by the REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE DENNIS HASTERT I would tend to think the Republican controlled House and Senate during 2003 and having the Presidency would be enough to say the Republicans were responsible for it.

Don’t you think that makes it a REPUBLICAN BILL?

I gave you a list of the major $$ projects… What else would you have stricken?

This argument is not about what I would have done as President, but what Bush did and what Obama is doing. I have stated my position on deficit spending and the need for a constitutional amendment for a balanced budget. As to particulars, there are many places where either the budgets should have been cut or taxes raised. It is that simple.

Here is George Bush’s record on the growth of the national debt: $4,898,681,252,731.43

2001 $194,126,042,892.82
2002 $465,519,336,577.58
2003 $618,992,896,783.52
2004 $606,381,539,892.88
2005 $562,527,680,664.50
2006 $499,341,790,544.61
2007 $513,555,204,392.91
2008 $1,438,236,760,982.61

That does not even account for the MASSIVE increase of the TRADE DEFICIT which nearly doubled during his Presidency. $411 Billion to $751 Billion… How did this add to our national security or long term stability?

Take those two deficits, add to it a lack of oversight on banks and financial institutions and we hollowed out our entire economy in the past 8+ years. What part of “conservative” spends money like this, what part of “conservative” allows foreign countries to sell goods undervalued into their country?

@blast:

This argument is not about what I would have done as President, but what Bush did and what Obama is doing. I have stated my position on deficit spending and the need for a constitutional amendment for a balanced budget. As to particulars, there are many places where either the budgets should have been cut or taxes raised. It is that simple.

So, once again, you’ve proven that you’re long on blame and finger pointing but remarkably short on answers and solutions.

Just wanted to make sure that was obvious to everyone.

Remember, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

PS….You’ll notice that my statements regarding the prescription drug bill are not in my response above. I edited that out after posting it.

The posts that end up in your e-mail are not always the final version.

Aye: PS….You’ll notice that my statements regarding the prescription drug bill are not in my response above. I edited that out after posting it.

I see, you edited out the whole “lie line” once you realized you were the one perpetuating a lie… I do not use email comments to reply. I read your comment here. Thank you for correcting the record to your misinformation.

Aye: So, once again, you’ve proven that you’re long on finger pointing and short on answers. Just wanted to make sure that was obvious to everyone.

You bet I am finger pointing… just like the little boy in the story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”… I don’t have to delineate specifics on his naked spending as pointing to his catastrophic results are quite enough.

@reckless: Thank you for those comments… I especially liked “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money.”

I wrote a post a week before the election “What happens the Day After You Kill the Goose that Lays the Golden Eggs?” I never thought we’d be on the verge of serving that goose the first few weeks into the Obama presidency.

And we both know that if Bush, or ANY Republican were serving Waygu beef at the White House the lefties in the “news” media would have run a slew of stories asking what signal that sends to the little people who are suffering. Especially on top of the most expensive Inauguration in history.

Instead of those kinds of news stories we are getting spam comments of undisguised Bush bile from bl ass t; an enabler of the same massive spending under Obama that he is complaining about with Bush who by any measure was a piker in that regard.

mikeA: Instead of those kinds of news stories we are getting spam comments of undisguised Bush bile from bl ass t; an enabler of the same massive spending under Obama that he is complaining about with Bush who by any measure was a piker in that regard.

Mike, one could call you an enabler of false information about President Bush. Bush was a piker? Laughable.

@blast: Give it a rest Bush basher. You’re boring me. You’re nothing but an enabler for deficit spending on an unprecedented scale.

@blast:

Aye: So, once again, you’ve proven that you’re long on finger pointing and short on answers. Just wanted to make sure that was obvious to everyone.

You bet I am finger pointing… just like the little boy in the story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”… I don’t have to delineate specifics on his naked spending as pointing to his catastrophic results are quite enough.

Now, back to the topic:

Has anyone gone over to Stimulus Watch to actually see what the stimulus will be spent on in your neck of the woods?

I’m most excited about the $99,600 we are spending on doorbells in Laurel, MS;

and the $500,000 we will be spending on the dog park in Chula Vista, CA;

and the $50,000 we will be spending on two dog parks in Lewiston, ME;

and the $17,500,000,000.00 we will be spending on New Energy Efficiency Industrial Zones in Cidra, PR;

and the $600,000,000.00.00 we will be spending on the Forks of the Road Heritage Trail.

My absolute mostest favorite though is the $393,000.00 for patrol rifles for Pembroke Pines, FL. This town has a population of 147,000 people. Why do they need nearly four hundred thousand dollars for rifles?

Dog parks? that’s a sore, sore subject. We have dog parks here that you have to pay for. We paid the $60.00 yearly fee for a local park, went one time and our little 17 pound Rio(aka little satan) was not welcome to come back, not a pleasant day. We didn’t even ask for a refund, now we will be expected to pay for someone else’s dog parks?

Here’s another one:

SEMA is opposing an effort by some Washington lawmakers to include a national car crushing program in the upcoming economic stimulus package. Vehicles targeted for the scrap pile will likely include Chevy Blazers, Silverados, S-10s and Tahoes; Dodge Dakotas and Rams; Ford Explorers and F-Series; Jeep Cherokees and Wranglers; and any other SUV or truck that obtains less than 18 mpg.

Under the plan, the federal government would pay a premium for ’99 and newer cars. Click here to oppose the legislation.

The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is “Cash for Clunkers” with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on old cars as is typical with scrappage programs, this bill will target any vehicle with lower fuel-economy ratings. Participants will receive a cash voucher to purchase a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (model year 2004 or later) or receive credit for the purchase of public transportation tickets.

Under the legislation, “fuel efficient” means at least 25% better mileage than the CAFE standard. It will be illegal to resell the scrapped vehicles. Bill sponsors want to destroy 4 million pickups and SUVs over the next four years.

Read more:

http://www.sema.org/Main/ArticleDetail.aspx?contentID=61134

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/01/heres-the-beef/

Japanese beef at $100/lb. served at White House coctail party.

Obviously, if that is true, you are in a very select market since most of the rest of the nation is struggling, or do you deny the economic problems?

Home values are up here in Wyoming too, or at least my tax valuation is. My taxes haves almost doubled in the three years I have lived in my current house. I offered to sell it the the assessor for the valued amount, but he didn’t think I was very funny.

@Missy:

Yes, I saw the SEMA story yesterday.

I’ve been stewing over that one but haven’t made the time to do a post on it.

It’s unbelievable what this gov’t is doing.

Unbelievable.

Japanese beef at $100/lb. served at White House coctail party.

According to theOne

Selling cheap Chinese made plastic models of the White House in the capital gift shop = Bad

Serving outrageously expensive Japanese grown beef in the White House = Good

Apparently, while there are plenty of American companies fighting to fill the capital gift shop with products, there aren’t any American ranchers growing quality beef.

Hope and Change we can believe in!

@Aye Chihuahua:

I saved this article so hubby could see it, he restores older Jeeps. If they do this all the parts that he and other jeepers need would wind up crushed, who would want to invest in something that couldn’t be repaired because the parts would become almost impossible to find? This would also be a problem for all other makes and models of vehicles that are collected. Next step is going to be to not allow licensing for these evil polluters. We will just have to make a lawn ornament out of hubby’s cherry 82 Scrambler that only gets driven a couple of times a year.

@Wisdom:

Our son-in-law gifts us with elk from Colorado. Has to be much healthier than that outrageously costly Japanese beef Obama is eating and it’s from this country.

BTW, is this the beef that isn’t allowed to graze naturally? I remember something about the Japanese having the beef suspended in some sort of hanging thing throughout their lives and not allowed any roaming. Is this what Obama is eating?

Aye: All those opportunities to show us all the SPECIFIC DETAILS of what should have been cut from the spending over the last eight years and all we can get is more “Bush””Bush””Bush”.

What part of specific details are missed in my annualized delineation of ENORMOUS DEFICITS?

Aye: Has anyone gone over to Stimulus Watch to actually see what the stimulus will be spent on in your neck of the woods?

I guess Aye you don’t know the process of government. Both houses of Congress have to pass the bill and it has to be signed by the president before it actually spends a dime. I am totally against all the pork, but your disingenuous comment dismisses my points about the past REAL deficits.

Aye, your memory is not very good. I offered specifics… Remember saying I don’t like “brown people” after saying the war was a waste of money. Do you remember I called out the Republican Prescription Drug Plan, and then you called that a lie, only to retract your statement because you probably looked it up to find that Speaker Hastert had been the person to bring the bill. What about the pork I mentioned? Ok, how about the missing money the Heritage Foundation reported a couple of years back?

Prescription Drug Plan -$1.2 Trillion
The Iraq War, -$600 Billion
Pork -$170.7 Billion
Heritage Foundation Estimate of “Missing Money” -$25 Billion

I have provided specifics Aye. Maybe you need to recognize that President George Bush nearly doubled the national debt in 8 years and left the economy in a ditch.

@blast:

Round and round and round you go.

You’re getting a little closer though you still haven’t come up with anything near the total of what you’re bitchin’ about.

Today is only the fourth day of our discussion.

Maybe you need just a little more time.

You’re correct about how the process of gov’t works, and yes, I understand it perfectly. Perhaps better than you do in fact.

The difference is that I’m bitchin’ about it BEFORE it happens in order to prevent it because once it’s signed and spent, it’s done. Gov’t spending, by its’ very nature, doesn’t go in reverse.

You choose to remain relatively silent because it hasn’t been spent yet. I guess you’re just gonna cover your eyes, ears, and mouth while hoping for the best.

The whole barn door, horse thing comes to mind or perhaps you’re more familiar with the spilled milk or water under the bridge analogies.

Again, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

Smart enough to see the difference?

As I follow the bill, I think there is a lot in this “stimulus” bill that doesn’t make sense. I’m a BIGTIME Obama supporter as many of you know, but I think he is making a mistake by not shelving this bill and make the Congress start over. I think a stimulus package is necessary but you only get one shot to write a $1 trillion check and that money has to get spent in a way that we can recoup it later.

Some money has to go to helping working families. My girl lost her job and in 40 days hasn’t received one call and she is highly qualified in her field. We’re just making it and if the recession goes on long, we’ll probably lose quite a bit. So far we’re good because I make enough to handle the bills but I’m worried about my job.

Still, I’m not in support of this bill and I understand how blast could point to Bush because these GOPers didn’t complain when Bush spent like a drunken sailor. But as Democrats, we have to be willing to disagree with President Obama when we see fit. I’m a supporter, not a robot. We need a better bill.

Aye: You’re getting a little closer though you still haven’t come up with anything near the total of what you’re bitchin’ about.

I knew you would say that. Like you want me to detail $5 Trillion of the f-ed up spending over the past years. I have made enough illustrative examples to satisfy your question. So stop with your false argument and vitriolic spin. You speak of problem and solution. I see part of the problem is not acknowledging where we have been. You refuse to accept the truth no matter how much it is detailed and instead resort to your normal personal attacks. Talk about obfuscation!

Aye, conservatives once lived by principled positions. Where is the principal of running up and near $5 Trillion debt in the past 8 years… answer that! What is your excuse for President Bush and the Republican Congress spending $1.2 Trillion on The Prescription Drug Bill? ANSWER THAT!

As I follow the bill, I think there is a lot in this “stimulus” bill that doesn’t make sense. I’m a BIGTIME Obama supporter as many of you know, but I think he is making a mistake by not shelving this bill and make the Congress start over.

Still, I’m not in support of this bill

@james manning:

First, James, let me say that the two snippets above are representative of the reason that I appreciate your presence here.

You and I don’t agree on everything, nor will we ever.

We do share the ability however to think independently and be critical and harsh when necessary. We are both willing to apply criticism to both sides of the aisle as needed.

You bring up the complaining by blast. Let me say that I agree with a lot of what he is saying.

(I haven’t told him that because he hasn’t taken the time to breathe and ask me the question. You and I can keep that between us.)

The difference is that I can point to very specific errors in spending and judgment made over the last eight years without resorting to the blanket “Bush” “Bush “Bush” routine that he chooses to engage in. Just as I am perfectly capable of pointing out the errors in spending that BO and the Dim controlled Congress are making now.

BO’s honeymoon is going to be a short one with all of this spending, the complete disconnect from the people here in the “real world”, the corrupt appointees, the complete lack of transparency, and movements moving toward greater secrecy and less accountability.

BO is off to a really rocky start and is making things worse through his ram rod, “I won”, my way approach.

james manning: Still, I’m not in support of this bill and I understand how blast could point to Bush because these GOPers didn’t complain when Bush spent like a drunken sailor. But as Democrats, we have to be willing to disagree with President Obama when we see fit. I’m a supporter, not a robot. We need a better bill.

You are totally correct on my feelings toward some GOPers. Add to that the constant drivel about how great a President Bush was, when in truth his Presidency failed demonstrably to live up to conservative principals in so many ways.

As to the stimulus bill… it was dead on arrival when it got to the Senate. I think we will see more compromise and if we don’t then Obama should reject the mess.

I am not actually a Democrat James. I once considered myself a Republican, but that party does not actually exist anymore and I don’t see it returning for some time.

@blast: If you can’t stick to the topic without the usual Bush Bash bile I am going to delete your comments.

This thread is all about STOPPING big spending… not enabling it.

mikeA censoring debate as usual.