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Rocky_B
15 years ago
Good reflexes George! Guess the Secret Service was a little lax since the guy was able to get two shoes deployed. Now before the lefty moonbats jump on that to say, “See Iraqi’s HATE Bush.” here’s a little follow-up: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081214/pl_nm/us_iraq_bush_shoe
BAGHDAD (Reuters) – An Iraqi reporter called visiting U.S. President George W. Bush a “dog” in Arabic on Sunday and threw his shoes at him during a news conference in Baghdad.
Iraqi security officers and U.S. secret service agents leapt at the man and dragged him struggling and screaming out of the room where Bush was giving a news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.
The shoes missed their target about 15 feet away. One sailed over Bush’s head as he stood next to Maliki and smacked into the wall behind him. Bush smiled uncomfortably and Maliki looked strained.
“It doesn’t bother me,” Bush said, urging everyone to calm down as a ruckus broke out in the conference room.
When asked about the incident shortly after, Bush made light of it. “I didn’t feel the least threatened by it,” he said.
Other Iraqi journalists apologized on behalf of their colleague, a television journalist.
Here’s a story with a picture of the guy from the back: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/14/mideast/14prexy2.php
Looks like those around him at least made an attempt to stop it. Why is it news media types love to try to make themselves the news? Guess this means at Obama’s first press conferences he should watch out else Katie Couric or Chris Matthews start throwing their panties.
Craig
15 years ago
Bravo! Bush has finally accomplished his goal. This President is a real smart dude. The Iraqi’s alliance is a hell of a brilliant strategic move. This will change the whole picture in this trouble part of the world. Great achievement! I will really be missing Bush and so will the world when they will see Obama in action… lol
Guess those Iraqi journalists haven’t learned from the western media that journalists are supposed to be unbiased….. ooops. Not much on leadership there, eh? But that said, the journalist actually had a good arm, and aim. But that ol’ boy Prez was better and dodged the bullet soles.
It should be remembered that this “unbiased” journalist was paying Bush the highest insult, as soles of shoes are considered to be. Remember the scenes of the Saddam statute coming down?
But just to add to a stellar report, Mr. Mike… it appears our POTUS has to leave the country and head to the war zone to be appreciated in full. At that same conference, and dwarfed by the “unbiased journalist” incident, was President Jalal Talibani saying:
The Iraqi president called Mr Bush “a great friend for the Iraqi people, who helped us liberate our country”.
I’m going to hope you don’t consider this the quintessential history of Saddam Hussein. No more than you would Michael Moore the definitive source on health care.
What docudrama *would* swivel my head is one that pieces together the Harmony/ISG docs confiscated in Iraq after Saddam’s desposition. But then I already have that in Ray Robison’s book, Both in One Trench.
I wasn’t recommending the HBO mini-series as a scholarly history, but simply as an entertaining docudrama. What was “informative” to me were the byzantine family and personal relationships and how Saddam was willing to manipulate (and even kill) friends and family in the furtherance of his objectives.
I was actually going to shell out $18.95 + tax + shipping for the book you recommended, until I came across the following paragraph in a review at the bottom of the Amazon page in your link, above.
But, what those documents ALSO say, is that Hussein had an active nuclear weapons program and that the Russians transported the whole thing, lock, stock and barrel to Syria, just days before the US rolled on in to Baghdad. Not making that info public is bad. What’s worse is that Israel recently identified where those nukes were and blew up the site. And our administration tried very hard to convince them not to. Bush should be impeached for that gross dereliction of duty. And the anti-war left should jailed for treason and sedition.
I’m too old to enjoy fairy tales, unless I’m reading them to children, and I’ll stick with the classics when I do this in the future.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
Machiavelli
15 years ago
After eight years of dodging the mud being slung by our domestic media, I’m not surprised that George displayed cat-like reflexes in dodging the shoes thrown at him by the Iraqi journalist.
Extra points for standing his ground at the podium.
This should be a note to the Secret Service, I imagine some of the Washington reporters may get some “bright ideas” after watching this video.
Mike
15 years ago
Here’s the worst of the lefties that I’ve seen so far… whereas the kos kids are smart enough to stop just short of advocating the death of the president, this site has no problem going all the way.
Mike: I haven’t looked at any of these hate sites, but I do remember Huff Post hoping that Cheney might have been killed in that mortar attack on Bagram AF Base in Afghanistan a few years back. So, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they said something similar now.
Remember, some of these same loons were telling us one month ago that we needed to put the bitter presidential election behind us and unite with them and Obama…. Civility is a one way street for these circus freaks.
Craig
15 years ago
Larry, your problem is that you cannot tell the difference between fairy tale and reality. Your Obama is all about a fairy tale and you believe him… lol
Craig
15 years ago
Larry, maybe these informations would interest you. You will find enormous information in that article about the WMD in Iraq:
“General George Sada, second deputy Iraqi air force under Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship third personality military regime, has written a book, Saddam’s secrets, where he says he has heard the testimonies of 747 pilot who used their aircraft to transport WMD to Syria in February 2003. . A column of trucks has also made the trip with the least heavy equipment. The CIA actually satellite images showing columns of trucks crossing the Iraqi border, in the same period. This process is not new: during the first Gulf War, Saddam Hussein had sent its entire fleet to shelter in Iran. (George Sada, Saddam’s secrets , Integrity Publishers, 2006) (George Sada, Saddam’s secrets, Integrity Publishers, 2006)”
“According to American intelligence, “between 10 January and 10 March 2003, most of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq have been transferred in giant tanks, and then buried in the Bekaa Valley by Syrian special forces under the control Syrian secret agents. Prior dug by the Syrian military, pits 6/8m side and 25/35m depth have received these weapons, then have been filled and replanted. Syria has been paid $ 35 million for its services. You can find them with appropriate equipment. Before Colin Powell came to Damascus on May 3 2003, the Syrians have made a gesture of conciliation, accelerating the capture and transfer of fugitives of the Iraqi regime, including the April 28 Dr Rihab Taha, a microbiologist, and Huda Salih Mahdi Amash, project leader anthrax. “(Quoted in Fabien Guez, Liliane Messika, op.cit, p. 220)”
Larry, I can’t help that some reviewing Amazon customer read something into “Both in one Trench” that wasn’t there. Robison has been very cautious at laying out what was verifiable, and what was speculation in the book. Since it focuses on the ISG/Harmony documents… which do not mention the WMDs… that is a small section in the book devoted to the speculation. But he never says that this was a proven thing. I have owned this book for years, and read it several times.
Georges Sada, former Saddam AF muckity muck and author of Saddam’s Secrets (which I also have read and own) says Saddam did indeed have a WMD program, and sent it out prior. His brother (or brother in law.. can’t remember) is the President of Syria, and this is mentioned in Sada’s book.
However you will not be sorry you sprung for Robison’s Both in One Trench. It’s a great read, and remarkable historic primer on the regional jihad groups and their intertwining tenacles… There is a reason I call the “GWOT” the “global Islamic jihad movement”.
Tisn’t a huge price to spend, and much to be gained. It’s no conspiracy theory read, trust me. And Robison’s book came out before the Pentagon IV report on the ISG/Harmony docs (which is what Robison’s book is based on). When the Pentagon report came out, I was already familiar with what they were saying because of the book. Ray Robison was one of the men there in Iraq in 2003 in the Iraqi Survey Group (ISG)… not to be confused with the political ISG (the Iraq Survey Group). He’s very well versed on the history, and the relationships.
Hmmm…seems to me that this shoe-throwing terrorist is probably a paid ivaw/answer/code pink plant!
Elektra
15 years ago
Bravo! Bush has finally accomplished his goal. This President is a real smart dude. The Iraqi’s alliance is a hell of a brilliant strategic move. This will change the whole picture in this trouble part of the world. Great achievement! I will really be missing Bush and so will the world when they will see Obama in action… lol
Ditto! Hip hip hooray!!
wondergoat
15 years ago
Don’t you get it? That journalist is not a Jihadi. He is, like many Iraqis, furious at Bush for bringing death and destruction to Iraq. Most Iraqis, if given the opportunity to be 12 feet from Bush, would walk home barefoot.
Craig
15 years ago
wondergoat,
LOL… you are so funny. The only furious Iraqis are the terrorists. All the other ones are very happy. And BTW, note that most of the deaths in Iraq were due to terrorist’s attacks, they were not from American’ soldiers.
These are morally sick people — the site is filled with hateful jerks who are known for saying some of the worst, low-life things you can imagine.
The progenitor of the site is well-known in science circles as an extreme anti-Christian bigot.
President Bush will get his due — history will judge him a strong leader who kept his country safe and liberated 50 million people from tyranny. I’m only sorry he doesn’t get the thanks he so richly deserves…we simply don’t deserve an honorable man like him.
“And some Sadrist fool throws his shoes at the President! Is that all the fight the jihadis have left?”
it’s fascinating that Mike America would call a “Sadrist” a Jihadi! The ‘Sadr” clan was the most oppressed under Saddam – a member of the Shia branch of Islam – as opposed to the Sunni-Taliban-Al Qaeda branch!
has Sadr EVER called for international Jihad? of course not – what Sadr HAS called for is OCCUPYING Americans out of Iraq!
And for Mike America – that’s a crime worse than flying jets into the WTC!!!
Fit fit
15 years ago
I really do believe that we will be greeted as liberators
-VP Dick Cheney 2003
Is it just me or does Bush look like he’s smiling after dodging that first shoe? He has a “that’s all you punks got?” look on his face…
Funniest object hurling since somebody threw a chair at Geraldo’s nose. Way funnier than the Coultier pie incident.
Good point on Morning Joe- If this had been done under Saddam, that guy and his family would already be dead.
Don’t you get it? That journalist is not a Jihadi. He is, like many Iraqis, furious at Bush for bringing death and destruction to Iraq.
Ah, another delusional one revisiting history. In this case, Saddam’s Iraq was *not* filled with death and destruction…. that is unless you were a Shia or Kurd.
Don’t *YOU* get it, wondergoat? Journalists are supposed to be unbiased, and professional. Obviously this guy is a “shoe in” for MSNBC….
I really do believe that we will be greeted as liberators
-VP Dick Cheney 2003
We were, at the time.
It doesn’t take much to make a name for oneself and be hailed a hero:
Thousands of Iraqis took to the streets Monday to demand the release of a reporter who threw his shoes at President George W. Bush, as Arabs across many parts of the Middle East hailed the journalist as a hero and praised his insult as a proper send-off to the unpopular U.S. president.
That’s democracy, folks. They have the freedom to protest and voice their opinions, no matter how screwed up.
Journalist Muntadhar al-Zeidi, who was kidnapped by militants last year, was being held by Iraqi security Monday and interrogated about whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at Bush during a press conference the previous day in Baghdad, said an Iraqi official.
Shouldn’t he be better served expending his energies throwing shoes at the militants who actually did him harm?
If Bush is responsible, then so is Allah for creating the world, and making all his miseries possible.
Al-Zeidi, who is in his late 20s, was kidnapped by Shiite militias on Nov. 16, 2007, and released three days later. His station said no ransom was paid and refused to discuss the case.
Of course, we know that throwing shoes at real villains would get him killed. I don’t see how throwing shoes at an “unpopular” president would get him anything but fame and local celebrity status among the moonbats of the Middle East. Good for him.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you for coming out to say hello. General, thank you for the introduction, I am honored to be at Camp Victory.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: Laura and I have been having a lot of Christmas parties at the White House, so I thought it would be kind of neat to change the scenery.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: And I would rather be with the men and women of the United States military than with anybody else. (Applause.)
So as you can see I decided to fly over, and in the spirit of the season we renamed Air Force One to Rudolph One.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah
THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for coming. I bring greetings from a proud and grateful nation — Merry Christmas to you, happy holidays. Congratulations on your inspiring accomplishments here in Iraq. And above all, thank you for volunteering to defend our country in a time of danger.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: This is a time of year to give thanks for our many blessings B- and the greatest blessing we have is freedom and the fact that we’ve got a United States military to defend that freedom.
So General, thank you very much for your leadership. I’m proud to be with you again. I appreciate the leadership of General Austin, as well. Ambassador Crocker and Christine are with us today. I had the pleasure of meeting Sergeant — Command Sergeant Major Lawrence Wilson; Command Sergeant Major Joe Allen; Major General Hammond — (applause) — put it together for Hammond. (Laughter.)
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: Command Sergeant Major Gioia.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: Major General Oates. (Applause.) How about, have you ever heard of a guy named Redmore? (Applause.)
Thanks for coming out. I am thrilled to be here with the diplomats, embassy personnel who are so critical to our success.
I want to thank the Iraqi citizens who are here with us today. I appreciate your courage. I know there are members of the coalition who are here with us. There have been a lot of troops from around the world who have come to help this young democracy survive and thrive. And so I want to thank the citizens of those country [sic] and the troops who have served here before us.
This is my fourth trip to Iraq — and you’ve probably heard I’m heading into retirement — (laughter) — so it’s going to be my last trip as the President. But thanks to you, the Iraq we stand in tonight is dramatically freer, dramatically safer, and dramatically better than the Iraq we found eight years ago.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: And as a result of the sacrifices of our troops, America is safer, and America is more secure.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: I want to take you back to what life was like eight years ago here in Iraq. Iraq had a record of supporting terror, a record of developing and using weapons of mass destruction, was routinely firing at American military personnel, systematically violating United Nations resolution. Life for the Iraqi people was a nightmare, with Saddam Hussein torturing and murdering anyone who did not support his repressive rule. Iraq was a sworn enemy of the United States at the heart of the Middle East; the region was a serious threat to the us.
After the attacks of September the 11th, 2001, America concluded we could not tolerate a regime like this in a pivotal region of the world. I gave Saddam Hussein a chance to peacefully resolve the question as to whether or not he had weapons of mass destruction. You might remember, I went to the United Nations, where a body said: disarm, disclose, or face serious consequence. It was his choice to make. And he made the wrong choice. And so the United States military, with a vast coalition removed this man from power and the world is better off for it. (Applause.)
AUDIENCE: USA! USA! USA!
THE PRESIDENT: I doubt in his worst nightmares he ever would have dreamt that we’d be standing in one of his palaces.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: Thanks to you, 25 million Iraqis are free.
Thanks to you, Iraq is no longer sponsoring terror — it is fighting terror. It’s making American people safer as a result.
The enemies of freedom in Iraq are determined, and this fight has been tough. Two years ago, the situation had grown dire — the political process was frozen and sectarian violence was spiraling out of control. Some of you were here then/
Many said the mission was hopeless; many called for retreat. Retreat would have meant failure — and failure is never an option.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: So instead of pulling troops out, we sent more troops in — called the surge. And because of you and because of your courage, the surge is one of the greatest successes in the history of the United States military.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: Terrorists who once held safe havens across the country are being driven out of their strongholds. The political process that was once stalled is moving forward. Iraqi citizens once afraid to leave their homes are going back to school, and shopping in markets, and leading a more normal life. And American troops are returning home because of success.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: The dramatic turnaround you led in Iraq culminated in the two agreements completed last month, which the Prime Minister and I affirmed in a ceremony earlier today.
These agreements formalize the ties between our two democracies in areas ranging from security and diplomacy to culture and trade. These agreements show the way forward toward a historic day — when American forces withdraw from a democratic and successful Iraq, and the war in this land is won.
There’s more hard work to do before we reach that day. But if there is any — but if there is no doubt — but there is no doubt in my mind, there’s just no doubt that we’re going to reach that day. I am confident because our cause is just. And freedom is universal. I’m confident because the Iraqi people are showing unshakable determination and courage.
And above all, I am confident because I know the character and the strength of those who wear the uniform of the United States military.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: Over the past five years, you have shown the world some unmistakable truths:
You have shown that when America is tested, we rise to meet the test.
You have shown that the desire for freedom is more powerful than the intimidation of terrorists.
You have shown that there is no task too difficult for the United States military.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: And so I have a message for you and all who serve our country: I want to thank you for making the noble choice to serve and to protect your fellow Americans. Sometimes it can be hard to tell when history is being made, particularly if you’re in the middle of the action. What you’re doing in Iraq is as important, and courageous, and selfless as what American troops did in places like Normandy and Iwo Jima and Korea. Your generation is every bit as great as any that came before it. And the work you do every day will shape history for generations to come.
I guess what I’m telling you is your grandchildren some day are going to say, “Thank God you showed up and served.”
America now has a strong friend and a partner in the fight against extremism in the heart of the Middle East, and that is historic.
People across this troubled region of the world now have an example for a more hopeful path — a model of liberty that can prevail over tyranny and terror. Killers who wanted to take the lives of Americans back home have been brought to justice before they reached our shores.
Because of you all who work to protect this nation — and all who work to protect the nation, America has done something many said was impossible: We have gone seven years without a terrorist attack.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: We think of those who have laid down their lives for freedom here in Iraq. Their children are growing up without a mom or a dad. But all of our children are growing up with something else — the promise of a safer America and a better world. And that is the lasting memorial of all who have sacrificed here in Iraq. And thanks to you, that memorial will be achieved — and their sacrifice will not be in vain.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: We think of your comrades who have been wounded. And this nation pledges that we will give them all the care and all the support they need to recover.
AUDIENCE: Hoo-ah!
THE PRESIDENT: We think of all your families back home. I know many of you have a sweetheart who misses you, or a daughter who longs for her dad, or a mom who worries about you day and night. For many of you, it won=t be your first holiday away — and that certainly doesn=t make it easier. So I’m going to give you an order: When you get out of here, call home or email home; you tell your families you love them; and you tell the Commander-in-Chief came by to thank them for their sacrifice along with yours. (Applause.)
Thanks — thanks for coming by to let me say hello. Thanks for serving the United States of America. They ask me what I’m going to miss as the President. I’ll tell you what I’m going to miss: being the Commander-in-Chief of such a fabulous group of folks. May God bless you, and God bless America. (Applause.)
“Sadr recently announced that he would be dividing his movement into the Mahdi army and Momahidoun, an unarmed cultural and religious movement whose name means “those who pave the way.”
That division was raised in the carefully-worded document released Friday, in which Sadr asked his followers to take part “either in jihad and military resistance or in jihad and cultural resistance.””
Mike’sA… “shoe in” ’twas an obvious pun, begging to be utilized… :0)
Ms. Warp’ed, you are partially correct. Sadr was part of the Shia population being oppressed and tortured by Saddam’s admin.
However you don’t seem to know what the quest of jihad is… and quite simply put, it is the conversion (whether forced with violence, or installed legitimately via government and elections) of Muslim nations and Arab lands (and ultimately, the world) to Shariah law, and end up with all converting to Muslim.
Sadr wants this, but is a “local” terrorist, focusing his efforts specifically and narrowly on Iraq.
You simplify Sadr’s objections to the US presence in Iraq… which is there to protect the fledgling and fragile democracy until they can do so themselves. Sadr and followers believe the US is there to prevent the coming of the 12th Imam, and hijack Islam and it’s future. That future being the coming of the 12th Imam would establish peace and justice throughout the world by conversion to Islam.
So no… Sadr has not called for international jihad. But he has called for Iraq jihad, and seeks to overthrow the elected govt now in place in order to convert the nation to Shariah law. He says this with his promises that the Mahdi would soon return, in Iraq. He backs that up by lobbying for power in the Iraqi Parliament, and does have influence over 30 some odd seats.
In the Shia tradition, the Mahdi is the 12th Imam, who is in occultation. Muktada al-Sadr says the Americans were aware of the impending reappearance, and that the Americans invaded Iraq to seize and kill the Mahdi. His supporters chant Sadr’s name at rallies to imply that he is the “son of the Mahdi.” Sadr has stated that the army “belongs to the Mahdi” as an explanation of why he cannot disband it, as has been required of other private militias. Although the reappearance of the Mahdi central to Shia thought, it is unusual to raise claims of the imminence of this event, and other Shiite clerics have avoided the messianic ecstasy that such claims can induce.”
According to David S. Cloud and Michael R. Gordon, New York Times in the article Bleak assessment in Pentagon study “There were an average of 959 insurgent and sectarian attacks against American and Iraqi targets every week in Iraq over the last three months, the highest level ever recorded, according to a Pentagon report on security trends in Iraq issued Monday.”
“The report also says armed militiamen affiliated with radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr pose the gravest danger to the security and stability of Iraq, surpassing Sunni Arab insurgents and even al Qaeda terrorists. The finding is the military’s strongest declaration of the danger posed by al-Sadr.”
Sadr posed “the gravest danger to the security and stability of Iraq…”. Obviously Sadr’s efforts for jihad were not confined to getting elected officials, but also fear, violence and intimidation thru the Madhi Army.
This, of course, paints Sadr in the same corner as Ahmadinejad. Thus, as Mike points out, Iran also has jihad ambitions that are not dissimilar to the Sunni-Sufy-Wahhabi sects. They all come to the same intersection… a Muslim world under Shariah law, and no western model is allowed. This is also referred to often as the Caliphate.
Word #29… but of course they will have others lobbying for the release of this unprofessional journalist.
Let’s see…. a Sunni journalist, captured by Shia militants, and had his minority power position taken away when Saddam got deposed. Now he’s part of a disgruntled minority… and they are demonstrating in the streets.
Isn’t this what the Dems have done thruout the GOP domination in Congress and Bush’s terms in office?
Yep… a pan-Arab democracy in Iraq is taking hold. The minority can protest in the streets, and no one’s hauled into a secret prison and killed. I’d say that’s an improvement.
However the Sunnis who were removed from power are particularly unhappy with Bush. They lost their minority mob rule. Too bad… But is this action indicative of the majority of Iraqis – dominated by Shia population – as a few here like to portray? Only in their dreams.
However this guy made a convenient voice of dissent that the anti-Iraq-freedom types – especially the American kind – can latch onto in order to perpetuate their BDS.
Word #29… but of course they will have others lobbying for the release of this unprofessional journalist.
Funny, I heard some in Egypt say “prove democracy works” by freeing the man criminal, rather than detain him.
You don’t suppose he was given his shoes back, do you?
Bush should thank the man for his gift, and keep them as a souvenir.
Did anyone bother to check the shoes for biological agents? Parasitic fungus is communicable and could qualify the shoes as a biological weapon of minor disruption. Very serious, indeed….
Having studied martial arts all my life, I was pleasantly surprised to see Bush’s reaction to the shoes throwing incident.
First of all, that moron jizzbag reporter had better than average aim. He probably practiced throwing that pair of shoes for dozens of hours in his own house before the actual incident.
Secondly, Bush had even better reflexes, he ducked the first shoe, which would have hit Bush’s head if he had not ducked, then came up and kept his eye on the moron as the moron threw the second shoe, which he knew he did not need to duck–you can see that Bush knows it will go over his shoulder, he only lifted his hand a bit as reflex and did not bother to duck the second shoe, even tho he saw it coming early. This shows his decent distance-angle estimating and physical coordination.
Of course the danger would be if the shoes had explosives, it shows the risk Bush takes going there. At least you americans can be PROUD to have a president with decent reflexes and coordination. He acquitted himself well, and the reporter failed TOTALLY in his effort to humiliate Bush.
Again for the reporter, he wouldn’t have dared throw the shoes at Saddam or his sons….talk about guts…..he knows he won’t be punished much for throwing at Bush and will probably be held up as a hero by the pro-saddam crowd. Much to gain financially.
Good to have you back Wordsmith, hope your absence was because of something pleasant.
Thanks, Missy; just busy. Horribly busy, as I’m behind in my FA reading, alone. Who’s this “Blagojevich” fellow? I keep hearing his name come up a lot, lately. 😉
Why would anyone effectively disarm oneself of one’s footwear, anyway? Slinging a diet coke across the room might have still missed, but splashed the president with some droplets…and you’d still have your shoes on to make a run for it.
Real American Patriot
15 years ago
I only wish he would have hit him… it would have been even funnier!!!
it is a great arab insult… and Bush deserved it!
Craig
15 years ago
WOW! Real American Hater… you are a real patriot as I can see. Shame on you! I knew that someday you would prove me right on this. You are definitely an American hater. I knew it from the first time I read you. It transpires in all your comments. Now I understand why you voted for Obama… lol. You hate your country and you must be really mad that Bush protected her for 8 years.
Hard Right
15 years ago
He’s just trying to be an a**hole, Craig. He wants to goad us into reacting.
CRAP suggests that Bush “deserved” to get hit by a shoe?
What for?
Saving millions of Iraqis from the decades long horror of Saddam Hussein?
Why don’t you visit the mass graves and talk to the Kurds whose families were killed with poison gas and tell them why you don’t like Bush.
They might hit you with something worse than a shoe.
Moron. Fool. Idiot. Democrat!
Sorry for being redundant.
Hard Right
15 years ago
People like CRAP, David, and Wardouche are wishing he had lobbed an IED or grenade instead. They are even claiming he was angry because he lost family. I’ve found no such claim while looking.
I did find that he loves muqtada al-sadr and his home is decorated with a che-guevar poster. Yeah, he sure represented the little man (roll eyes).
Hard Right
15 years ago
Oh, and the reporter was detained by American soldiers while looking for his brother. The reporter is an al-sadr lover and we wanted his brother. Gee, wanna bet his brother is one of al-sadr’s boys? Considering how al-sadr got whipped by our soldiers TWICE, it’s no wonder he was mad at Bush. If he lost a member, want to bet it was him while he was trying to kill our soldiers?
Fit fit
15 years ago
the reporter failed TOTALLY in his effort to humiliate Bush
Obviously humiliation is in the eye of the beholder. I think it’s at least a little humiliating to have objects hurled at you in disgust, even if they miss. I think it would be more apt to say he failed to make Bush feel humiliated.
I for one am glad the shoe missed, if it had hit, it wouldn’t be funny.
Good reflexes George! Guess the Secret Service was a little lax since the guy was able to get two shoes deployed. Now before the lefty moonbats jump on that to say, “See Iraqi’s HATE Bush.” here’s a little follow-up:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081214/pl_nm/us_iraq_bush_shoe
Here’s a story with a picture of the guy from the back:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/14/mideast/14prexy2.php
Looks like those around him at least made an attempt to stop it. Why is it news media types love to try to make themselves the news? Guess this means at Obama’s first press conferences he should watch out else Katie Couric or Chris Matthews start throwing their panties.
Bravo! Bush has finally accomplished his goal. This President is a real smart dude. The Iraqi’s alliance is a hell of a brilliant strategic move. This will change the whole picture in this trouble part of the world. Great achievement! I will really be missing Bush and so will the world when they will see Obama in action… lol
Here’s the photo from Rocky’s link:
Rocky,
Great comment from Bush about the shoes; he never loses his sense of humor: “All I can report is it is a Size 10”
And I liked what Talabani said: “Thanks to him and his courageous leadership we are here now in this building.”
Take him to Guantanamo (with other terrorists) and let him think a bit on the consequences of his actions.
Guess those Iraqi journalists haven’t learned from the western media that journalists are supposed to be unbiased….. ooops. Not much on leadership there, eh? But that said, the journalist actually had a good arm, and aim. But that ol’ boy Prez was better and dodged the
bulletsoles.It should be remembered that this “unbiased” journalist was paying Bush the highest insult, as soles of shoes are considered to be. Remember the scenes of the Saddam statute coming down?
But just to add to a stellar report, Mr. Mike… it appears our POTUS has to leave the country and head to the war zone to be appreciated in full. At that same conference, and dwarfed by the “unbiased journalist” incident, was President Jalal Talibani saying:
At least some “get it”….
Any of you catching the HBO miniseries: “The House of Saddam” ?
It’s both entertaining and informative.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA
What was Keith Olberman doing in Baghdad?
I don’t get HBO, Larry. But Hollywood and those bozos called “media” are sure watching right along with you, and providing their thumbs up or down reviews.
I’m going to hope you don’t consider this the quintessential history of Saddam Hussein. No more than you would Michael Moore the definitive source on health care.
What docudrama *would* swivel my head is one that pieces together the Harmony/ISG docs confiscated in Iraq after Saddam’s desposition. But then I already have that in Ray Robison’s book, Both in One Trench.
I wasn’t recommending the HBO mini-series as a scholarly history, but simply as an entertaining docudrama. What was “informative” to me were the byzantine family and personal relationships and how Saddam was willing to manipulate (and even kill) friends and family in the furtherance of his objectives.
I was actually going to shell out $18.95 + tax + shipping for the book you recommended, until I came across the following paragraph in a review at the bottom of the Amazon page in your link, above.
I’m too old to enjoy fairy tales, unless I’m reading them to children, and I’ll stick with the classics when I do this in the future.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA
After eight years of dodging the mud being slung by our domestic media, I’m not surprised that George displayed cat-like reflexes in dodging the shoes thrown at him by the Iraqi journalist.
Extra points for standing his ground at the podium.
This should be a note to the Secret Service, I imagine some of the Washington reporters may get some “bright ideas” after watching this video.
Here’s the worst of the lefties that I’ve seen so far… whereas the kos kids are smart enough to stop just short of advocating the death of the president, this site has no problem going all the way.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/
Mike: I haven’t looked at any of these hate sites, but I do remember Huff Post hoping that Cheney might have been killed in that mortar attack on Bagram AF Base in Afghanistan a few years back. So, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they said something similar now.
Remember, some of these same loons were telling us one month ago that we needed to put the bitter presidential election behind us and unite with them and Obama…. Civility is a one way street for these circus freaks.
Larry, your problem is that you cannot tell the difference between fairy tale and reality. Your Obama is all about a fairy tale and you believe him… lol
Larry, maybe these informations would interest you. You will find enormous information in that article about the WMD in Iraq:
“General George Sada, second deputy Iraqi air force under Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship third personality military regime, has written a book, Saddam’s secrets, where he says he has heard the testimonies of 747 pilot who used their aircraft to transport WMD to Syria in February 2003. . A column of trucks has also made the trip with the least heavy equipment. The CIA actually satellite images showing columns of trucks crossing the Iraqi border, in the same period. This process is not new: during the first Gulf War, Saddam Hussein had sent its entire fleet to shelter in Iran. (George Sada, Saddam’s secrets , Integrity Publishers, 2006) (George Sada, Saddam’s secrets, Integrity Publishers, 2006)”
“According to American intelligence, “between 10 January and 10 March 2003, most of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq have been transferred in giant tanks, and then buried in the Bekaa Valley by Syrian special forces under the control Syrian secret agents. Prior dug by the Syrian military, pits 6/8m side and 25/35m depth have received these weapons, then have been filled and replanted. Syria has been paid $ 35 million for its services. You can find them with appropriate equipment. Before Colin Powell came to Damascus on May 3 2003, the Syrians have made a gesture of conciliation, accelerating the capture and transfer of fugitives of the Iraqi regime, including the April 28 Dr Rihab Taha, a microbiologist, and Huda Salih Mahdi Amash, project leader anthrax. “(Quoted in Fabien Guez, Liliane Messika, op.cit, p. 220)”
IRAQ HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://drzz.over-blog.org/article-3765611.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://drzz.over-blog.org/%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s%26sa%3DG
Larry, I can’t help that some reviewing Amazon customer read something into “Both in one Trench” that wasn’t there. Robison has been very cautious at laying out what was verifiable, and what was speculation in the book. Since it focuses on the ISG/Harmony documents… which do not mention the WMDs… that is a small section in the book devoted to the speculation. But he never says that this was a proven thing. I have owned this book for years, and read it several times.
Georges Sada, former Saddam AF muckity muck and author of Saddam’s Secrets (which I also have read and own) says Saddam did indeed have a WMD program, and sent it out prior. His brother (or brother in law.. can’t remember) is the President of Syria, and this is mentioned in Sada’s book.
However you will not be sorry you sprung for Robison’s Both in One Trench. It’s a great read, and remarkable historic primer on the regional jihad groups and their intertwining tenacles… There is a reason I call the “GWOT” the “global Islamic jihad movement”.
Tisn’t a huge price to spend, and much to be gained. It’s no conspiracy theory read, trust me. And Robison’s book came out before the Pentagon IV report on the ISG/Harmony docs (which is what Robison’s book is based on). When the Pentagon report came out, I was already familiar with what they were saying because of the book. Ray Robison was one of the men there in Iraq in 2003 in the Iraqi Survey Group (ISG)… not to be confused with the political ISG (the Iraq Survey Group). He’s very well versed on the history, and the relationships.
Hmmm…seems to me that this shoe-throwing terrorist is probably a paid ivaw/answer/code pink plant!
Ditto! Hip hip hooray!!
Don’t you get it? That journalist is not a Jihadi. He is, like many Iraqis, furious at Bush for bringing death and destruction to Iraq. Most Iraqis, if given the opportunity to be 12 feet from Bush, would walk home barefoot.
wondergoat,
LOL… you are so funny. The only furious Iraqis are the terrorists. All the other ones are very happy. And BTW, note that most of the deaths in Iraq were due to terrorist’s attacks, they were not from American’ soldiers.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/
These are morally sick people — the site is filled with hateful jerks who are known for saying some of the worst, low-life things you can imagine.
The progenitor of the site is well-known in science circles as an extreme anti-Christian bigot.
President Bush will get his due — history will judge him a strong leader who kept his country safe and liberated 50 million people from tyranny. I’m only sorry he doesn’t get the thanks he so richly deserves…we simply don’t deserve an honorable man like him.
Wondergoat: Ditto to what Craig said.
Take your head out of your a__!
“And some Sadrist fool throws his shoes at the President! Is that all the fight the jihadis have left?”
it’s fascinating that Mike America would call a “Sadrist” a Jihadi! The ‘Sadr” clan was the most oppressed under Saddam – a member of the Shia branch of Islam – as opposed to the Sunni-Taliban-Al Qaeda branch!
has Sadr EVER called for international Jihad? of course not – what Sadr HAS called for is OCCUPYING Americans out of Iraq!
And for Mike America – that’s a crime worse than flying jets into the WTC!!!
Is it just me or does Bush look like he’s smiling after dodging that first shoe? He has a “that’s all you punks got?” look on his face…
Funniest object hurling since somebody threw a chair at Geraldo’s nose. Way funnier than the Coultier pie incident.
Good point on Morning Joe- If this had been done under Saddam, that guy and his family would already be dead.
“So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes”
Who rang the troll bell? We seem to be getting more of the inbreds from DUNG and KOS lately.
Ah, another delusional one revisiting history. In this case, Saddam’s Iraq was *not* filled with death and destruction…. that is unless you were a Shia or Kurd.
Don’t *YOU* get it, wondergoat? Journalists are supposed to be unbiased, and professional. Obviously this guy is a “shoe in” for MSNBC….
Warped: Do you really believe that only Sunnis believe in jihad? Ever heard of Iran?
Go back and finish smoking your hemp.
Mata: “Shoe in?” Good one!!!
@Fit fit:
We were, at the time.
It doesn’t take much to make a name for oneself and be hailed a hero:
That’s democracy, folks. They have the freedom to protest and voice their opinions, no matter how screwed up.
Shouldn’t he be better served expending his energies throwing shoes at the militants who actually did him harm?
If Bush is responsible, then so is Allah for creating the world, and making all his miseries possible.
Of course, we know that throwing shoes at real villains would get him killed. I don’t see how throwing shoes at an “unpopular” president would get him anything but fame and local celebrity status among the moonbats of the Middle East. Good for him.
@Warpublican Review:
“Sadr recently announced that he would be dividing his movement into the Mahdi army and Momahidoun, an unarmed cultural and religious movement whose name means “those who pave the way.”
That division was raised in the carefully-worded document released Friday, in which Sadr asked his followers to take part “either in jihad and military resistance or in jihad and cultural resistance.””
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/15/mideast/iraq.php
Mike’sA… “shoe in” ’twas an obvious pun, begging to be utilized… :0)
Ms. Warp’ed, you are partially correct. Sadr was part of the Shia population being oppressed and tortured by Saddam’s admin.
However you don’t seem to know what the quest of jihad is… and quite simply put, it is the conversion (whether forced with violence, or installed legitimately via government and elections) of Muslim nations and Arab lands (and ultimately, the world) to Shariah law, and end up with all converting to Muslim.
Sadr wants this, but is a “local” terrorist, focusing his efforts specifically and narrowly on Iraq.
You simplify Sadr’s objections to the US presence in Iraq… which is there to protect the fledgling and fragile democracy until they can do so themselves. Sadr and followers believe the US is there to prevent the coming of the 12th Imam, and hijack Islam and it’s future. That future being the coming of the 12th Imam would establish peace and justice throughout the world by conversion to Islam.
So no… Sadr has not called for international jihad. But he has called for Iraq jihad, and seeks to overthrow the elected govt now in place in order to convert the nation to Shariah law. He says this with his promises that the Mahdi would soon return, in Iraq. He backs that up by lobbying for power in the Iraqi Parliament, and does have influence over 30 some odd seats.
Sadr posed “the gravest danger to the security and stability of Iraq…”. Obviously Sadr’s efforts for jihad were not confined to getting elected officials, but also fear, violence and intimidation thru the Madhi Army.
This, of course, paints Sadr in the same corner as Ahmadinejad. Thus, as Mike points out, Iran also has jihad ambitions that are not dissimilar to the Sunni-Sufy-Wahhabi sects. They all come to the same intersection… a Muslim world under Shariah law, and no western model is allowed. This is also referred to often as the Caliphate.
Word #29… but of course they will have others lobbying for the release of this unprofessional journalist.
Let’s see…. a Sunni journalist, captured by Shia militants, and had his minority power position taken away when Saddam got deposed. Now he’s part of a disgruntled minority… and they are demonstrating in the streets.
Isn’t this what the Dems have done thruout the GOP domination in Congress and Bush’s terms in office?
Yep… a pan-Arab democracy in Iraq is taking hold. The minority can protest in the streets, and no one’s hauled into a secret prison and killed. I’d say that’s an improvement.
However the Sunnis who were removed from power are particularly unhappy with Bush. They lost their minority mob rule. Too bad… But is this action indicative of the majority of Iraqis – dominated by Shia population – as a few here like to portray? Only in their dreams.
However this guy made a convenient voice of dissent that the anti-Iraq-freedom types – especially the American kind – can latch onto in order to perpetuate their BDS.
@MataHarley:
Funny, I heard some in Egypt say “prove democracy works” by freeing the
mancriminal, rather than detain him.You don’t suppose he was given his shoes back, do you?
Bush should thank the man for his gift, and keep them as a souvenir.
Did anyone bother to check the shoes for biological agents? Parasitic fungus is communicable and could qualify the shoes as a biological weapon of minor disruption. Very serious, indeed….
Now where do you suppose it comes from that the Egyptian conception of “democracy” means freeing criminals? LOL!
Actually, I suspect if I tossed a couple of stillettos at the President-elect, it might be a while before I see the light of day.
@Wordsmith:
Now that’s just scary creepy.
Good to have you back Wordsmith, hope your absence was because of something pleasant.
In a democracy an attempted assault has consequences. I find it amusing that countries that would have thrown him in jail for years want him freed.
Having studied martial arts all my life, I was pleasantly surprised to see Bush’s reaction to the shoes throwing incident.
First of all, that moron jizzbag reporter had better than average aim. He probably practiced throwing that pair of shoes for dozens of hours in his own house before the actual incident.
Secondly, Bush had even better reflexes, he ducked the first shoe, which would have hit Bush’s head if he had not ducked, then came up and kept his eye on the moron as the moron threw the second shoe, which he knew he did not need to duck–you can see that Bush knows it will go over his shoulder, he only lifted his hand a bit as reflex and did not bother to duck the second shoe, even tho he saw it coming early. This shows his decent distance-angle estimating and physical coordination.
Of course the danger would be if the shoes had explosives, it shows the risk Bush takes going there. At least you americans can be PROUD to have a president with decent reflexes and coordination. He acquitted himself well, and the reporter failed TOTALLY in his effort to humiliate Bush.
Again for the reporter, he wouldn’t have dared throw the shoes at Saddam or his sons….talk about guts…..he knows he won’t be punished much for throwing at Bush and will probably be held up as a hero by the pro-saddam crowd. Much to gain financially.
@Missy:
Thanks, Missy; just busy. Horribly busy, as I’m behind in my FA reading, alone. Who’s this “Blagojevich” fellow? I keep hearing his name come up a lot, lately. 😉
@MataHarley:
Stilettos are serious business….you can take someone’s eye out with those.
@Rocky_B:
@sigmundringeck:
Gives added new meaning to the phrase, “lame-duck president”.
The best punishment for a moron like that would be to force him to eat his own shoes.
Cruel and unusual, but very suitable.
Or walk on glass….
Why would anyone effectively disarm oneself of one’s footwear, anyway? Slinging a diet coke across the room might have still missed, but splashed the president with some droplets…and you’d still have your shoes on to make a run for it.
I only wish he would have hit him… it would have been even funnier!!!
it is a great arab insult… and Bush deserved it!
WOW! Real American Hater… you are a real patriot as I can see. Shame on you! I knew that someday you would prove me right on this. You are definitely an American hater. I knew it from the first time I read you. It transpires in all your comments. Now I understand why you voted for Obama… lol. You hate your country and you must be really mad that Bush protected her for 8 years.
He’s just trying to be an a**hole, Craig. He wants to goad us into reacting.
CRAP suggests that Bush “deserved” to get hit by a shoe?
What for?
Saving millions of Iraqis from the decades long horror of Saddam Hussein?
Why don’t you visit the mass graves and talk to the Kurds whose families were killed with poison gas and tell them why you don’t like Bush.
They might hit you with something worse than a shoe.
Moron. Fool. Idiot. Democrat!
Sorry for being redundant.
People like CRAP, David, and Wardouche are wishing he had lobbed an IED or grenade instead. They are even claiming he was angry because he lost family. I’ve found no such claim while looking.
I did find that he loves muqtada al-sadr and his home is decorated with a che-guevar poster. Yeah, he sure represented the little man (roll eyes).
Oh, and the reporter was detained by American soldiers while looking for his brother. The reporter is an al-sadr lover and we wanted his brother. Gee, wanna bet his brother is one of al-sadr’s boys? Considering how al-sadr got whipped by our soldiers TWICE, it’s no wonder he was mad at Bush. If he lost a member, want to bet it was him while he was trying to kill our soldiers?
Obviously humiliation is in the eye of the beholder. I think it’s at least a little humiliating to have objects hurled at you in disgust, even if they miss. I think it would be more apt to say he failed to make Bush feel humiliated.
I for one am glad the shoe missed, if it had hit, it wouldn’t be funny.
H.R.: I heard that the Al Baghdadi station which is based in Egypt that he works for was very pro-Saddam.
And yes, I saw the Che G. poster at the guys house too.
No surprise there Mike. Also, their love for che tells me they have a thing for losers. Famous losers, but losers all the same.
“Bush looked into his eyes and was able to get a sense of his sole…”
Sorry. Couldn’t resist. 🙂