Sometimes you run across an op-ed that needs no added commentary. There is just no way to improve on the Motor City Mad Man’s op-ed in today’s Human Events… so I’ll keep my mouth shut, and introduce The Nuge.
Like any entity that abandons basic quality control, political parties rot from within. It happened to the Democrats long ago, and now has become the case with the Republican Party, which has strayed from its conservative underpinnings.
There are really only four things I have a strong aversion to: unloaded guns, dull knives, banjos, and Republicans in Name Only (RINOs).
~~~RINOs are Fedzilla punks who feign support for conservative principles only when it serves their political interest. RINOs are also known for their moderate positions such as supporting tax increases, federal “bailouts”, “comprehensive immigration reform”, advocating more counterproductive gun control that guarantee more innocent victims, opposing the death penalty, and growing and sustaining Fedzilla and all its toxic mongrels by going along with the liberals. RINOs have forgotten President Ronald Maximus Regan’s admonition that government is the problem, not the solution.
RINOs reach across Fedzilla’s aisle to cut deals and build consensus with the liberals. Consensus building means compromising values and cutting deals with the socialist prankster punksters whose goal it is to turn America into EuroAmerica.
Consensus building is for wimps and soulless people who stand for nothing. Compromise is not about being tolerant: these days, it’s about giving up conservative principles.
As the Republican Party begins to retool, rebuild and return to the “less government is best government” conservatism that makes America work, the first thing the GOP needs to do is to lock the RINOs out of the discussion. Heavily armed with an abundance of conservative attitude, my hunting buddies and I will provide security to ensure RINOs are kept downwind from the discussion. If allowed to participate, RINOs will continue to rot the Republican Party from within and diminish it in the eyes of the public. Enough is enough.
~~~Make no mistake, conservative values and ideologies are embraced by Americans. The polls all indicate Americans are fed up with the Pelosi-led, do nothing congress, and do not support more government programs and control. Sounds to me like we have a conservative revolution brewing.
~~~My specialty is making Fedzilla punks squirm and turn into a puddle of sweat and drool. Therefore, in the spirit of famous butt kickers Generals Chesty Puller and George Patton, I say we launch an attack on all fronts. Uncle Ted hereby declares it is open season on RINOs. No bag limits or permits required. Conservative ideas, arguments and votes are the weapons we will use. Hunt them down and shine a blazing light on these RINO turncoat cockroaches. Zero in the “we the people” crosshairs of your voting assault weapon and aim for the RINO pumpstation. Double tap center mass. Whack em and stack em, track em and hack em, pack em and give em no slack. Let’s do to the RINO beasts what we did to the passenger pigeon. Force out of the Republican Party out the subspecies known as RINOs.
We must not make the mistake of keeping the GOP tent so big that there’s room for RINOs. They are in the business of producing conservative defeats. Instead, join me in the new Conservative Revolution. Let’s go out and win another one for the Gipper.
Read in it’s glorious, and direct entirety at the link above…
Vietnam era Navy wife, indy/conservative, and an official California escapee now residing as a red speck in the sea of Oregon blue.
Mmmmm…..Mata?
Am I stupid??? _WHAT_ “link above”???
RINOS are like people who want to govern from the Center. That means nothing. Center is like idleness. It gets you nowhere. No values, no goal, no soul. Moderates are people who should not be in politics; they should stay home watching TV. They watch the parade go by, they do not participate in the parade neither do they organize it. They are like statues in a park. Center or moderates are useless to a country; they only bring stagnation and mediocrity. Get rid of those idiot moderated RINOS.
Craig – “Center or moderates are useless to a country; they only bring stagnation and mediocrity.”
That’s not right is it? Serve the motherland and tend to extremes? I think you guys have a screwy definition of who belongs in “your camp”.
DOH! Space, the final frontier… LOL Thanks for the heads up, SueK. Thought I had put it in. It’s there now.
100 said:
Well now, I gues that “your guys” and “your camp” indicates you aren’t conservative (that you admit to). So personally, your opinion doesn’t matter to me one iota.
Just like there are varying degrees of outright Communists and Marxists in the DNC (i.e. Ayers, and the “new party” members, one who has commented here), there are also moderate DNC.
However what is conservatism at it’s most base foundation has been watered down to, as the Nuge puts it, consensus building wimps.
But the one that makes me laugh the most is you calling conservatism “extreme”. The very founding principle of modern conservatism is TAX CUTS and small government.
Oddly enough, I’m willing to bet you made your decision on Obama’s “tax cuts” promise…. a mantra he stole from conservatism and used to mask his big spending plans. I guess that makes you “extreme”, right?
The problem with Obama is he is not conservative, and his tax cuts, combined with his tax increases to make up for his big spending plans, just don’t add up in the real world of math.
But bottom line, all you DNC types proved that conservatism is not dead. You just think you’re seeing it in Obama when he bandies about the conservative principle of lower taxes. The rude awakening is laying in wait for us all.
MataHarley,
No, what I wrote doesn’t mean that, hence the inverted commas.
I supported McCain, not Obama, and so the rest of your post is clearly idiot ramblings.
RINOs reach across Fedzilla’s aisle to cut deals and build consensus with the liberals
That’s pretty rich coming from someone who supported John McCain in the primary. As an added bonus we get lectures on moral living (that is, the anti-drug, anti-homosexuality positions Nugent takes) from a guy who fathered two kids out of wedlock, and suggestions that we should have nuked Iraq from someone who couldn’t be bothered to serve his country in Vietnam (Nugent was born in 1948). Maybe he should try leading by example instead of just running his mouth – but I guess performers by and large aren’t good at that.
Idiot ramblings you say, 100? McCain is a RINO… and proof that when conservatives run a RINO, they cannot win. Hence Nugent’s op-ed pointing out the obvious to the oblivious.
It matters not that you supported McCain. So did I. But McCain was not my dog in the race. Rather I had a dog I did not want to see grasp hold over the power of the WH, combined with Pelosi and Reid, based on his campaign promises and historic associations.
I can only say that with your attitude, and if you are registered GOP, you’re the type the Mad City Motor Man has declared open season on. You are no conservative if you consider how far McCain is away from traditional conversative principles.
And BTW, if you were trying to make a point as a psuedo-conservative point of view, you “clearly” failed miserably. Do not blame me for your fledgling communication skills.
bbart, Nugent supported Fred Thompson in the primaries. When McCain got the GOP nod, he said hold your nose and vote McCain, then sit on him and make sure he governs from conservative principles.
You’ve consistently failed to understand what I’m saying, hearing instead some imaginary counterarguments to your general views. I’m not into talking to idiots, so please write as many paragraphs as you like full of untested assumptions, detailed expositions and irrelevant but pointed asides, knowing that nobody will contradict you.
“Sometimes you run across an op-ed that needs to added commentary.”
I think you mean ‘no’ added commentary.
—KILL ALL RINOS!!!
Oh yes… that clears up who you are and what you believe. Huh?
You string lots of words together. Their clarity is obscure, 100. Tell me, just how did you mean:
I read this as moderate is the way to go, and conservative beliefs that McCain does not embody are “extreme”.
Sans your cute little insults, perhaps you like to clarify. Or perhaps one of our other brain trusts here have a better reading on your clipped, and endearing insults.
Right, sanjay… because Nugent is a mass murderer in his other life. LOL Rather “extreme” interpretation of his way of saying clean out the party and get back to basics.
“The very founding principle of modern conservatism is TAX CUTS and small government.”
Is that all though? What about things like States rights, abortion, ‘gay rights’ and other things?
I have no major problem with first trimester abortions, support legislation for second trimester and would all but ban third trimester ones.
I have no problem with Gays in the military, think they should be allowed civil unions called anything other than marriage.
I hate racism and hate affirmative action.
I think working women get shafted w.r.t careers when they have children; I would like longer paid leave and I would also like to see child care 100% tax deductible.
I am also an Atheist.
So am I a RINO? Don’t you want me to vote for you?
Don’t consider you a RINO, DocMartyn. Small government is no intrusion into states rights, nor excessive regulation.
I don’t consider myself a RINO, and my beliefs closely mirror yours. Note that Nugent hits on the big conservative issues. ala financial, RKBA rights, and immigration.
The hallmark that conservatism is not dead is because 52.8% of the population voted primarily on a “tax cut” policy… even tho, in reality, it is not. But perception is the key.
@Doc Martyn
Strange name for a moderate. That brand of shoes and boots was rather popular with racist skinheads long before most people knew they existed here in the States. I digress. I think the point is that Conservative Republicans would love to have you vote for us. We just don’t want you making policy for us.
The way America’s two party system works is that you start out with two end points, and meet in the middle. If leaders of your party keep changing their starting point towards the middle, then eventually you are all the way over on the other side before the contest has even begun. The Democrats do not budge towards the middle. They sometimes begrudgingly meet us there, after cussing and threatening and all sorts of resistance. When they notice that Republicans have moved their starting point towards the middle, they don’t move closer to that same middle. They figure that they are going to be able to pull the compromise a certain distance towards themselves regardless of where it starts, so they move their starting point further left. That is how we got a “maverick” who has more Democrat names next to his on legislation than Republicans as our candidate, and that is how we got a Democratic candidate whose life acquaintances, coworkers, friends and family reads like a who’s who of American Marxism.
It is time to move the non Democrat starting point back to the right so that our government can actually continue to serve the needs of those in the middle. If “the middle” is the most conservative possible outcome, then the real results are going to end up far to the left of that.
100: You complained that Mata misunderstood where you are coming from and yet you never took the opportunity to explain yourself more fully.
I am sure that Mata would be interested in any fuller explanation you care to provide.
So, please stop telling Mata she “failed to understand ” and start explaining yourself.
Oh, Mata, you’re really scraping the bottom. First, it was Joe the Plumber. Now the Nuge is your new conservative hero and font of political wisdom. You are so much smarter than the people you cite. Actually, I prefer “Smokin in the Boys’ Room” to “Cat Scratch Fever,” but that’s an argument for another day. You know what I’m reading now? Dee Snider’s “Conscience of Twisted Liberal.”
“100: You complained that Mata misunderstood where you are coming from and yet you never took the opportunity to explain yourself more fully.
I am sure that Mata would be interested in any fuller explanation you care to provide.
So, please stop telling Mata she “failed to understand ” and start explaining yourself.”
This site sounds more like a group therapy session every day. There are a lot of post-election issues to talk out.
Dave Hussein Noble said: “Oh, Mata, you’re really scraping the bottom. First, it was Joe the Plumber.”
I see… back to insulting hard working Americans like Joe the Plumber whose great crime in life was to make the Messiah look bad by daring to ask a question.
Get some new material DHN. You’re starting to sound like an Obama cyber thug.
As for “This site sounds more like a group therapy session every day” I find that particularly interesting as you previously lectured me and others on how we need to be more civil. Here I am trying to gain a fuller understanding of a comment that was ambigous and you want to start your little catty game.
I’m surprised you don’t prefer “cat scratch fever.” I would have thought that was most appropriate for you.
Oh Dave, don’t be an ass. I didn’t say Nuge was my “hero”… that’s a pretty narrow category for me. All I said was his commentary on how the conservative party has strayed, and who is dictating our political candidates, is spot on…. needed no further additions from me.
“Hero”? You, dear Dave, are evidently the “extremist” here.
Instead, Nuge has a delicious way of pointing out the obvious to fellow conservatives. That when you stray from your foundations and try to remake yourselves as something else, you are compromising to no effect. BTW, this really has nothing to do with you progressive/socialists. It really has to do with an internal battle of the GOP… the reconciliation between Reagan conservatives, and the liberal moderates that are dominating Congress in our name.
Why the heck do you think we call them “spineless”? Besides, what the heck do you have to do with this? There isn’t a conservative bone in your body that I’ve seen.
And personally, my fave is “Hey Baby!”
“Besides, what the heck do you have to do with this? There isn’t a conservative bone in your body that I’ve seen.”
Exactly…. what is it about these left wing busybodies that they feel compelled to stick their nose into our internal discussions?
Do they really think we value their opinion?
Frankly, I don’t take advice from people who want me to lose.
Ya know, Mike, it is an enigma to me why so many “moderates” don’t get it. The GOP held reign over the purse strings since mid terms in the 90s. They spent like they accuse liberals of doing so. Why? Because the majority of the party representatives are RINOs and not Reagan conservatives.
And they wonder why we lost? McCain’s a fine man and has my undying respect. I trust his foreign policy to match my own desires. His domestic? Far too liberal moderate for my tastes.
Lightbringer, My first name is Martyn and my title is Dr. (I have a Ph.D. in biochemistry and work as a neurochemist), hence my nick-name.
I am English, hoping to become American in 12-18 months time. I cast my first vote in support of Margret Thatcher and am in many matters to the right of GWB.
Many things piss me off about the Republicans, mostly it is their inability to allow freedom of choice with respect to sexuality (I am married with two children) and their inability to understand that personal views on the morality of contraception and abortion are all well and good, but people would be much happier with a muddled middle ground other than the two entrenched positions; Republicans = life at conception and Democrats = life sometime after first breath.
I can recognize a well thought out moral position. Palin’s stance that abortion is wrong, even in the case of rape and incest is obviously intellectually valid’ i.e. there is no point in stating that life begins a conception if you then state that some embryo’s have less rights because of their parentage. I can respect this position, I respect the person who made, but I believe it is wrong.
I also think that pacificism is wrong, but I have enormous respect for the contentious objectors who became bomb disposal workers and medics during WWII.
in the UK, legislation on moral issues is generally a free vote, and is not run on party lines. There is no ‘litmus test’ in parties on where they stand on abortion. The conservatives did manage to shoot themselves in the foot by beginning and crusade against the promotion of gay lifestyles; the fraction of gays that voted conservative collapsed.
Smart move, who think that homosexuality is an individuals choice oppose an individuals freedom of choice as who to sleep with. Real smart.
First off, Mata, my post was largely humorous. So go have that glass of wine again.
And Mike, I am so sorry for my impertinence in sticking my nose in your internal discussion.
What is this a high school clique? Or one of those “family meetings” you see on TV when the parents are about to divorce?
Here’s a nickel, guys, buy a sense of humor. Oh, and here’s another nickel to buy a sense of perspective, particulary with respect to your self-important hand-wringing about what is wrong with “our conservative family.”
As they say on “Coffee Talk,” – “Talk amongst yourselves.”
“my post was largely humorous.”
In your mind… and that ain’t saying much.
Dave, INRE your:
My sense of humor? Keep your nickel, dude. I have no complaints from friends, family or business associates. In fact it’s one of the things they cite as part of their recommendations.
But I know deft of tongue wagging wit is not available to all… :0) So if that’s your example of your sense of humor?…. my suggestion is, keep your day job.
And, if you plan any more “humous” entries with that lead set up line of the same quality as….
…. and then falls flat, you might want to alert us that it’s “humor” by using your official FA “humor on/off” button. That way we can give you the benefit of the doubt.
And that glass of wine? Sure would love to, but too much to do, and no time to indulge. But if you’re going to torture me with a Dave Noble comedy routine, then you’d better bring a case of some fabulous wine so I can weather thru it with the needed smile you’ll no doubt want to see.
Just to hear the word «moderates» irritates me.
Mata, you have the tolerance and the patience of a saint. I really don’t know what all these leftists are doing on this blog. You give them facts, reality checks, details, articles, videos, all the kit, and the next day they come running back with the same old arguments that you have so patiently debunked for them. It is like talking to a wall. It is a waste of time and energy.
We do not need leftists here for exchanging views, we already have the MSM views and the threads that the authors gives us on what is happening in the political life. That is already plenty of subjects that we can discussed among ourselves.
“McCain’s a fine man and has my undying respect. I trust his foreign policy to match my own desires. His domestic? Far too liberal moderate for my tastes.” (Mata)
I agree 100%. This is why I would have preferred Sarah as the running POTUS.
“What is this a high school clique? Or one of those “family meetings” you see on TV when the parents are about to divorce?”(Dave Noble)
Why don’t you go answer my question in my comment #27 on: Ted Nugent: “Rino Season is Now Open?
DocMartyn, are you under the mistaken impression that the GOP wishes to make sexual preferences illegal??? For what else can you mean by “freedom of choice”. LGBT community is quite free to do as they wish, and will remain so.
What the GOP… and oh, BTW, most the states including very liberal California… is against is legislation that calls unions “marriage” and redefines “marriage” as no longer between a man and a woman.
I might remind you that marriage was a religious rite long before the government decided to become involved so they could regulate taxes and benefits. And that’s all the “marriage” bit is about… benefits to the “partner”.
Most conservatives I know have no problems with civil unions that provide benefits. They, however, do not want marriage in the traditional sense redefined.
So perhaps you have been listening to the liberal interpretation of what the conservative viewpoint is, and what they do and do not want to do in the world of same sex unions.
INRE Palin and abortion. She is, like everyone in this country, free to have her own opinions on abortion. She has not used her power of office locally to influence deterring abortions. And as POTUS, she cannot strike down Roe v Wade. That can only be done by the SCOTUS after a lawsuit winds it’s way to the Supreme’s bench. So I fail to see why you object to her opinions because they do not match yours?
Also, she does believe in birth control and other options, despite what you probably have been fed. She is a member of Feminists for Life. Don’t know what it is? Look it up… Women should not have to choose between career and family. And abortion is not the only answer.
@DocMartyn
My apologies for the crack about your screen name. It is not spelled the same, nor have you behaved in any way reminiscent of the aforementioned thugs.
My deceased uncle was a homosexual, and he was one of the most conservative men I have ever known. I can not presume to speak for anyone else, but as for myself, sexual preference is not an issue. As I used to say in my younger, dating days, “Just two less guys I have to compete with…”. Then again, I do not find it to be a subject that should be explicitly taught in schools to young children. Neither did my uncle.
You might be surprised to learn that in California, African Americans, while voting 95% for Obama also voted 70% for Prop 8 (just in case you don’t know, this means that 70% of them voted that a marriage should be between a man and a woman only). So you might want to hold off on assigning sexual preference bigotry to any one party, it is much more complex and muddled than that.
As for abortion, I am a Christian but that does not mean that I would support a comprehensive ban on it. Actually, the only part of that debate that gets me riled up is that Roe Vs. Wade was a slap in the face of the Constitution. Abortion law is something that I feel should be a State’s Right to decide. If Illinois, Massachusetts, and California want to pass laws allowing and funding abortion on demand for any female over age 13, then so be it. But Texas et al. should have the right to restrict it as they see fit as well. If the States were returned this right to decide, then citizens could make their own judgment on the matter via the ballot box or the U-Haul truck. As it stands, the Supreme Court forced one set view on the matter down everyone’s throats. I think we need to rethink lifetime appointments to that august and often pompous body. Appoint them for ten year terms and then find a new judge, only change one at a time.
Again, I only speak for myself, but to me, it has nothing to do with restricting people’s rights to live as they see fit within the law. It has everything to do with stemming the tide of Federal Government. Give the States back their Constitutional rights, and large chunks of the acrimonious bickering that pervades our politics would vanish from the national stage. True enough it would exist at the state level, but even that would wane as the states sorted themselves out and the loudest rude mouths amongst us moved where they felt comfortable.
Oh, one more thing. Welcome to our Country! Your voice is welcome whether I agree with you all the time or not.
I took this post to advocate, quite simply, that conservatives should purge moderates because moderates have transformed our identity as promoters and ‘practicers’ of a core set of principles, principles which have made America exceptional.
One problem with this new identity Republicanism, this moderate infested GOP, is that it has led us away from the tried and tested conservative principles which most Americans support — still. This has had the effect of weakening the support of our traditionally conservative base. This has had the effect of drawing us ever closer in deed, if not in principle, toward the other side, the wrong side. And as conservatives understand, a distinction between ‘closer in deed’ and ‘closer in principle’ is a distinction without a difference when it comes to how we run this country. The Party’s trend towards the middle is neither better for the country nor for our party, as McCain has proved, so it’s about time — and makes a whole lot of sense — to get back to what has made America exceptional — our conservative principles.
Some people have taken the ‘Left — Middle — Right’ metaphor literally, and so when they speak of the Right or the Left, they think of extremes, as if the Middle were the position of temperance. Wittgenstein would take a hot poker to them.
Dave Noble,
I have mislead you in my comment #29… so here it is again:
Why don’t you go answer my question in my comment #20 in the thread: From The Desk of a 48er to 52’s:
Why they are here? Some of the more intelligent ones are here to engage in debate which is great. We need debate, we need to get all the ideas out there for those lurking in the shadows to read and digest. Yes, many are blithering idiots who come here only to antagonize, and after awhile they are dealt with. But to say its a waste of time is ignorant. Many people read these posts and discussions and never get involved in the comments. A well thought out debate can sway people more then you think. Some will even go do their own research after reading through a discussion that perks their interest.
So while it may seem to you as a waste of time, I see this blog as a vehicle for people to gain knowledge.
Oh come on….what you want is an echo chamber of every commenter yelling “Yeah!” “Right on!” and “I agree!” How does this help a discussion? If a leftist wants to come on here and engage in silly talking points, as Robert did recently, he will find the authors and many commentors here quite knowledgeable and articulate. Most often they change the subject once their beliefs are shown to be foolish, but there are lurkers reading this stuff….it makes them think. And that is the reason for this blog. It’s a conservative blog and will always remain so since I am conservative but I will shut this blog down before I allow it to become an echo chamber. Debate is a good thing. Mindless insults are not. And I am sorry to say some of your comments are becoming nothing but mindless insults. I have banned liberals on this blog for making no other contribution other then antagonizing the readers and insulting them. Don’t make me ban you. While I agree with most of your beliefs, your delivery needs some help.
Curt,
I hope you will have the courage and the decency to not censure my comment.
“Debate is a good thing.” (Curt)
Sure it is, but there is no debate with the leftists on this blog. They don’t want to exchange; they are only here to nag and provoke us and to give false information. They do not want to learn, they do not want to know, they just want to keep believing what they already believe falsely.
“It’s a conservative blog and will always remain so since I am conservative» (Curt)
It’s not a conservative blog anymore; it has become a moderate (center) blog. You don’t even see it.
“I will shut this blog down before I allow it to become an echo chamber.” (Curt)
It is amazing that you tolerate all the stupidities from the leftists, but surprisingly, you cannot accept if a conservative contradicts you… isn’t that strange! You want no debate between conservatives. Tolerant only for leftists… but no tolerance for conservatives that disagree with you. You cannot disagree with an author of this site… “NO YOU CAN’T”. Tolerant only in appearance! Tolerance only for the weak. Remarkable!
“And I am sorry to say some of your comments are becoming nothing but mindless insults.” (Curt)
Are you saying or pretending that I make no valuable contributions on this blog? I have made more valid contributions and research than most of the people here. Where were you all that time? Skipping or ignoring my comments, videos and articles? Gee… unbelievable!
“I have banned liberals on this blog for making no other contribution other then antagonizing the readers and insulting them.” (Curt)
This is what they are doing all the times to us and Sarah, McCain, Bush and conservatives… and they are still here and still doing it. I saw no ban! Except for Kool-Aid who wasn’t the worst of them. They have never made a valuable contribution; at least I never read one. Are we supposed to take that shit from them and just shut up? Sorry, but I am not that type of person. I will not let people trash Sarah and Bush without saying anything. I am not the American “good guy” style at all. I don’t even understand that mentality. I say what I think, I am direct and you know exactly where I stand… I’m no hypocrite and I will always defend the people that I like and respect. And I will always stand for my conservative values… I will never indulge in centrism.
“Don’t make me ban you.” (Curt)
You won’t have to ban me, I’m out of here. You seem to be more comfortable with leftists than with conservatives who disagree with you. So keep them and cherish them. Your blog has become a centrist blog anyways and I don’t want to be part of it anymore. These are not my values. I don’t appreciate “center” and “moderate” and “mediocrity”. It leads nowhere. It is a waste of time. A merry go-round! If I cannot disagree with an author of this site… what is the point? So much for free speech and intense exchanges. You do not tolerate articulated people who speak their mind. In your world, there are no such things; there is no space for another mentality than yours. We conservatives all have to be of the same model: tolerant moderate good guys. Well that is not me, never was, never will. Thanks god!
My dog in this race was the pit-bull, with lipstick*.
*No insult intended Sarah, you are no dog by any stretch of the imagination.
I tend to go along with conservatives on many issues and agree with Mata that McCain was not exactly the pinnacle of conservatism, despite my respect for the man. Nor would I likely agree on every issue one of FA author’s might post. When that happens, I’ll back up my position as best I can, and see what they have to offer up, and maybe we’ll come to a concession, or agree to disagree. Our readers can make up their own minds after reviewing both arguments. In the pharma debate for example; Larry W brought some things to the table I hadn’t considered. His comments and others have revised my thinking on a few aspects, but I’m still certainly not ready to sign on fully to the “Obama plan”, as I don’t seriously think even Obama knows what the “Obama plan” is at this juncture.
We love ya’ Craig, but got to agree with Curt on this, need to throttle back on the anger buddy. After all FA is his baby. We have a crack team of knowledgeable people here combating the slings and arrows of outrageous talking points. I for one think FA has a lot more class than that. Each seem to have their topics areas of strengths and weaknesses. That’s why I decided to hang out here of all the blogs I’ve run across. As I feel I have something to add to the mixture. Most of the people here are fair and balanced if you don’t mind me using the FOX cliche’. We’re all upset with how the election turned out, but no need to allow frustration be a driving force on our posts, least we throw the baby out with the bathwater. Don’t let fly-by moonbats force you down to troll level with name-calling to refute banal logic, insensitivity, and amorality. It’s not conceding a point if we do not respond to each and ever post of tripe. Some are not even worthy of a response. If you feel a couple are beneath contempt, might be best to move on and ignore them, rather than blow a head gasket and go out guns a’blazin’ after every one of them dern polecats, ’cause we got your back. I’ld kinda’ miss you hangin’ out here, so don’t take everything personally k’? I can respect you have a lot of conviction behind your beliefs mon ami.
I also like a good debate, heck I might even play Devil’s Advocate once in a while just to shake things up and see what falls out of the tree. I’m not going to be a coward about it and hide behind an assumed name though. All said, I see a pretty good job being done here in sorting out facts from BS.
Exactly!
http://spectator.org/blog/2008/11/13/ted-nugent-on-a-rampage
No more Brooks’, Bloomberg’s, Giuliani’s, Huckabee’s, Chafee’s, and McCain’s!
Cockroach’s, all of them!
Doesn’t anybody understand we need to separate the wheat from the chaft: Palin can do this for us !!!
Now, now Curt and Craig. Let’s have no fighting in the ranks.
There are certainly plenty of good left wing moonbats for us to skewer without us having to fight with each other.
God Bless Ted Nugent! It should be an honor to him that liberals try to pass him off as crazy. I have been reading Ted, White, and Blue the last few nights, and he has inspired me like no other conservative has since Ronald Reagan.
I stand corrected on who Nugent supported in the primary. Still don’t care for the guy but I think I have to admit it has a lot to do with style (Limbaugh also irritates the hell out of me) and less with substance.
Here’s something I like better (with very similar thoughts), even if the average Nugent supporter would probably find it a bit bloodless: Mark Sanford on the election.
That’s okay, bbart… you don’t have to like Nugent, the man 100%. However the points he makes, in a style that is distinctly The Nuge, are the perfect chord. We have too many RINO representatives that “talk conservative” and “spend liberal”. Their spending for the decade plus they were in power is completely antithesis to what conservative is all about. We have become a shadow of our former selves.
Thus, separate the conservatives from the moderates, put the conservatives back in with the stronger voice, and get back to basics.
Craig, if you’re still reading… I know your fire’y passion is in control at the moment. I believe Curt is responding to the many times you’ve demanded that this blog “clean up” or you’d leave. That’s just not how it’s going to work. Truth be told, I wasn’t appreciative of that not so subtle form of blackmail, so to speak, myself. But I let it pass as I have other comments you’ve made that make my brows raise in astonishment. This is because I’ve had time to get to know your temperment.
I doubt any of us would stand for any single commenter mounting a campaign that attempts to chase off the dissenting voices by making them feel unwelcome. If a cyber community in total harmony is what you seek, then FA is just not your bag. Frankly, had you gotten your way (unlikely), then I’d be out of here for boredom alone.
But I do resent your parting shots that all FA authors are somehow centrist and moderate… at least by your terms… and that we don’t disagree with each other. Actually, we disagree often. Perhaps it’s missed because we are generally civil, having a respect for each other’s perspective. And of course you – and anyone else – are allowed to disagree with Curt, or any of us. Unmitigated support for our posts was never a demand any of us has required.
You have enjoyed as much tolerance as anyone else… and perhaps a bit more because we know your directness and refusal to mince your words. But Curt and Rocky have made a valid point. Sometimes it’s good to throttle back, and just skip the one who got on your nerves with a post instead of just posting an insulting judgment call on the commenter. Definitely makes for less stress and anger in your daily life.
I certainly hope you check in at least every once in awhile. And yes, we’ve all flown off the handle occasionally when a comment gets under our skin. But I also hope you will take Curt and Rocky’s comments to heart about throttling back on some of the many comments that are composed of nothing but insults. Their advice was truly delivered in cyber friendship.
@Craig:
Craig….
For the life of me, why do you always have to be so hyperbolic and melodramatic? Not only that, but your perception of reality is rather skewed. You and I are often in disagreement. Yet you’re still tolerated. You disagreed with Scott. You’re still here. You disagree with Curt. You’re still here. The only one who has trouble exercising any kind of tolerance, is YOU. You’ve said it yourself about how much you hate “tolerance”.
Anyway, just calm down and don’t get so worked up all the time.
I’m glad to see Wordsmith tuning in here… Now, I’m looking forward to him cleaning up after “Voter”s next visit.
Come on. Sure there is. Some are drive-by commenters, sure…but there is plenty of debate among the commentors and the authors on this blog.
Now you had me laughing on that one.
For the life of me I don’t understand where you get this stuff. Have you been banned? Nope…you run when someone tells you this won’t be your own echo chamber, sure….but you have not been banned.
Because they disagree with you, this may antagonize you. But simple disagreement doesn’t provoke hostility in most people. Most recognize it for what it is, a disagreement. There have been some who did do nothing but poke people in the ribs to get a reaction and they were banned.
Man…you sure are some drama queen.
@Curt:
Golly!
I go away for a few hours and the fur flies.
I can’t be here 24/7. I’m already hamstrung by being on EST.
@Craig:
Come on man. Don’t go away mad.
If you do, then the turrists have won. 🙂
Just remember to do what is clearly within your power. Either ignore the post or respond with some sort of humor. That’s what I do. Haven’t you ever seen my “Moby, Moby, Moby” routine or the “boa” or “nice shoes” comments?
I like to take the inane, vapid posts of some of these ninnyhammers and fashion them into cluebats with which to cyber bash them over their pointy little heads. Some of them aren’t worthy of any sort of response whatsoever. Just scroll on by. Chances are very good that one of the other posters or one of the authors will play the game with them.
Most of the time, after being force fed the facts to the point that they’re bloated, they will move along quietly.
Some, like RAP (who called himself Sky55110 before he adopted his sock puppet), and Erika/voter are the resident barking MoonBat mascots.
Their arguments don’t stand up to any sort of scrutiny and, when they are scrutinized, they will quickly scurry off into the darkness until the dust settles returning again later to raise another unrelated issue about which they are also clueless.
I don’t agree with all of the other posters here either. I don’t agree with all of the authors even. But that’s OK. That’s what makes the world go round. There are times that I will speak up and say so. Other times, I just keep quiet.
So, take this post for what it’s worth.
I enjoy your presence. I enjoy your contributions. Just ratchet down the emotion and reaction a bit and all will be well.
Just remember that the world, even the cyber world of FA, would be mighty bland without a little salt and pepper.
Jazz Shaw responds to Ted:
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/republican-party/24327/the-gop-of-the-future/
If this keeps up, and it appears it will:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111303347.html
we. are. doomed.
Sanjay: re: “Jazz Shaw responds to Ted”
Like a true moderate Jazz does not understand that the road to recovery is blocked by so called moderates. They must, therefore, be convinced of the errors of their ways or vetted from the party. Moderates are little more than soft Republicrats who lack backbone and are unable to stand up for anything unless it gets them a seat at the table.
For example, can anyone define McCain’s core idea in the campaign? He was conflicted, and Palin came to his rescue several times and that won her the enmity of McCain’s backstabbing staffers.
I read Jazzes’ piece as a “lay down and get along” song and dance that made my stomach rumble. “Beating the democrats” is what it’s all about! If you don’t beat them they win and America becomes another Marxist country. Now, please show me one of those that are prospering!
Craig: Go sit it the corner and suck your thumb until someone changes your diaper. When you return stop emoting. That is what liberals do.
Sanjay… you give up too easily! First of all, this was a very conservative mandate election…. hard to believe.
Obama campaigned on “tax cuts”. This is a conservative message. Yes… he was lying thru his teeth, offering tax cuts to low earners and contributors, and tax increases to everyone else. But he stayed on message. He was all about (in some alternate universe) tax cuts.
Spending? He was not psuedo conservative there. But, immediately after the election, he was back pedaling on spending Another “conservative” value.
I’d say we are not doomed. The message needs to be… first, obeyed by those in office, and second, revamped to conservatism… of which there are only a handful of those in elected office.