This thread will be kept up top for all the Flopping Aces authors to contribute to with election updates. Readers, feel free to put up any updates you find in the comment section.
Go McCain!
UPDATE by Curt @1740hrs PST
FOX NEWS PROJECTS: Obama Wins Pennsylvania, McCain Wins Alabama
It’s pretty much over then folks…..we have a socialist as President.
UPDATE by Curt @1700hrs PST
Fox projects that John McCain has carried South Carolina’s 8 Electoral Votes. Senator Lindsey Graham has been reelected, a Republican hold.
FOX NEWS PROJECTS: McCain Wins South Carolina
UPDATE by Curt @1630hrs PST
FOX NEWS PROJECTS: McCain Wins West Virginia
Fox has projected John McCain as the winner of Kentucky’s 8 Electoral Votes.
Fox has projected that Obama has won the District of Columbia’s 3 Electoral Votes.
Barack Obama claimed Vermont’s 3 Electoral Votes. Again, as with all the very early calls, this one wasn’t really a contest.
UPDATE by Curt @1605hrs PST
Mid-day exit polling will skew heavily to the Democrats. We saw that in 2004, when everyone panicked after they showed Kerry winning by wide margins. ABC reports that the black vote only slightly increased from 2004 and will only be 13% of the total vote — lower than most people predicted. Most of the predictions hit around 16%. That may be a huge problem for Obama, if the final numbers bear that out. In 2004, it was 11% of the vote, and went 88% to Kerry.
UPDATE by Curt @1550hrs PST
Drudge…..remember, exit polls don’t mean.
EXIT POLLS CLAIM ‘OBAMA +15′ IN PA… DEVELOPING…
TOO CLOSE TO CALL AT CLOSE: FL, IN, OH…
MCCAIN KEEPING AZ… DEVELOPING…
UPDATE by Curt @1535hrs PST
Jonah, there’s no such thing as exit poll data “for real”. As I said right here at 5.22pm Eastern time on Election Day 2004, “the key word in the phrase ‘exit poll’ is ‘poll’: that’s all it is.” So before we all get as high on the exit poll crack as the Obama party will be on John the goat’s testicles, remember the Corner on Election Day 2002:
“Big turnout in New Hampshire—not a good sign… Early down arrows for Dole… Talent losing in MO… Townsend (arrgh!) looking good in MD…”
And that’s just Rich.
The GOP swept NH, Dole won NC, Talent won MO, and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend lost MD for the Dems.
Polls are open. People are voting. Pundits at a loose end should find a goat to sacrifice and read his entrails. It’ll be as accurate.
UPDATE by Curt @1500hrs PST
Nice!
I’m a student at Carleton College who has contributed (financially and with my time) to the Obama campaign. I just got an automated call from Jeff Blodgett, the chair of the MN campaign. The text of the call was:
“Hello, this is Jeff Blodgett from the Minnesota for Obama campaign. Our initial data shows this election is significantly closer than the polls predicted. We are putting out an urgent call for volunteers… We are organized groups to knock on doors at five P.M., or earlier if you can, for our final GOTV operation.” This was followed by different numbers to call based on your residence.
Don’t worry bout the exit polls….remember 2004
I continue to hear relentlessly positive takes from folks on the ground in Ohio.
George Bush carried Darke County, Ohio, 18,306 to 7,486 with 70 percent turnout. I’m hearing some predictions that turnout there could reach 80 percent this year.
Bush carried Warren County 68,037 votes to 26,044 with 76 percent turnout. I’m hearing that turnout is expected to be higher there, too.
The sense among some GOP folks on the ground is that the turnout in heavily African-American precincts in some of Ohio’s cities has been light today, as of midafternoon, because of so many partaking of early voting. They see that as a reasonably good sign, that the Obama get-out-the-vote operation has hit its limit. These sources have been telling me for a few weeks now that they think McCain will overperform Bush’s 2004 performance and that the Republican candidate’s margin of victory will be greater than the two percent four years ago.
UPDATE by MataHarley @1435hrs PST
First Fox Exit Poll data… if you believe exit polling…
New Voters (10% of those exit polled)IN: Obama 73%, McCain 27%
OH: Obama 69%, McCain 31%
VA: Obama 63%, McCain 36%
White Males (36% of those exit polled)
IN: Obama 44%, McCain 54%
OH: Obama 47%, McCain 51%
VA: Obama 39%, McCain 58%
Late Deciders
IN: Obama 52%, McCain 45%
OH: Obama 54%, McCain 39%
VA: Obama 44%, McCain 55%
Misc: 56% of exit pollees opposed the bailout
UPDATE by MataHarley @1415hrs PST
Breaking news on Fox a minute ago about the military absentee ballots lawsuit Judge has ruled these ballots must be held “preserved” (neither counted or rejected) until he can hear the case on Nov 10th. Depending on how close the VA election is, and how many military ballots were mailed late to the soldiers, this could hold up a decision on the election.
UPDATE by Curt @ 1230hrs PST
Via Amanda Carpenter:
Ron Jones of Philadelphia told CNN’s Brian Todd he was so inspired to vote he voted more than once.
“It’s time for change, man,” Jones said. He complained about the long lines and said that “I decided to come back and vote a couple times.”
Sure, Jones might have meant he came back TO vote a few times, but wouldn’t it be good for the reporter to ask for clarification? Todd didn’t seem to mind. In fact, he didn’t even blink.
“I think that’s against the law, but it’s okay, all right. Well, thanks, Ron,” Todd said. Then, the camera conveniently cut away.
UPDATE by Curt @ 1110hrs PST
Black Panthers intimidating voters in Philly:
More:
“Just after 12:00 noon, Fox News reported that two black panthers were at one location in Philadelphia “guarding” the doorway to a polling station. One carried a nightstick and confronted a citizen who had gone in to the polling place. That citizen called police (he was interviewed by the Philly correspondent for Fox). The citizen reported that police removed the black panther with the night stick, but the other, who lives in the area, remains near the door.”
CNN not doing their job….shocker!
A man called in to CNN’s Helpline on Tuesday wondering why the network hasn’t reported the Black Panthers who were seen standing in front of a Philadelphia polling station this morning, one of them carrying a billy club.
According to the caller (audio available here), he was going to vote for Obama until a friend told him about this incident. The caller said, “Now Fox has broadcast this, and I want to know why CNN has not broadcast this yet.”
The “Honest and Open Election Hotline ” has been launched by the McCain campaign to help voters find their polling place and report fraud, and intimidation.
The phone hotline can be reached at 866-976-VOTE.
Double voting reported to the hotline:
UPDATE by Curt @ 0815hrs PST
ACORN’s registration of convicted felons — from prison:
Tomorrow may set a record for voter turnout in Minnesota, but the Fox 9 Investigators discovered one group registered to vote, who shouldn’t be voting at all. They’re convicted felons, and in some cases they’re registering to vote from prison. How is that possible? Reporter Tom Lyden searched hundreds of thousands of data records to find the answers.
UPDATE by Curt @ 0740hrs PST
And here we go with the fraud. Some Georgians Suspected Of Voting Twice
“This is extraordinarily disturbing,” said Secretary of State Karen Handel.
~~~A team of investigative journalists from WSB-TV in Atlanta, WFTV in Orlando and WFTS in Tampa and WCPO in Cincinnati compared Georgia’s voter rolls with those in Florida and Ohio and found more than 100,000 people who appear to be registered to vote in more than one state, with no government oversight to catch it.
And some voter intimidation:
And the MSM still hasn’t learned.
UPDATE by Curt @ 0730hrs PST
Some of the final polls (h/t Race 4 2008)
SurveyUSA Pennsylvania General Election
- Barack Obama 52% (53%)
- John McCain 43% (41%)
SurveyUSA Florida General Election
- Barack Obama 50% (47%)
- John McCain 47% (49%)
Reuters/Zogby Battleground Surveys
Virginia
- Barack Obama 51.7% (50.7%)
- John McCain 45.3% (44.6%)
- Other/Not sure 3.0% (4.7%)
Ohio
- Barack Obama 49.4% (50.2%)
- John McCain 47.4% (43.9%)
- Other/Not sure 3.2% (5.9%)
Nevada
- Barack Obama 53.2% (50.7%)
- John McCain 42.4% (42.9%)
- Other/Not sure 4.4% (6.4%)
Missouri
- John McCain 48.8% (45.7%)
- Barack Obama 48.8% (47.4%)
- Other/Not sure 2.4% (6.9%)
North Carolina
- John McCain 49.5% (49.3%)
- Barack Obama 49.1% (47.7%)
- Other/Not sure 0.4% (3.1%)
Florida
- Barack Obama 49.2% (47.5%)
- John McCain 48.0% (46.2%)
- Other/Not sure 2.8% (6.4%)
Indiana
- John McCain 50.4% (49.1%)
- Barack Obama 45.1% (43.9%)
- Other/Not sure 4.5% (7.0%)
Pennsylvania
- Barack Obama 51.2% (53.7%)
- John McCain 41.4% (40.0%)
- Other/Not sure 7.4% (6.3%)
Final Rasmussen Daily General Election Tracking (11/4)
- Barack Obama 52%
- John McCain 46%
Favorable / Unfavorable (Net)
- Barack Obama 56% / 43% (+13%)
- John McCain 55% / 44% (+11%)
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Wonder
wherewho Dead Eye Dick is hunting??Fixed that for you.
that is my own openio.. when i see the pic of candedete of Mr. Obama i feel he well be the next President of the USA.
I voted this morning for McCain/Palin!!
@marita r jornacion:
I guess OB is popular in the Philippines, eh?
Popular Vote so far:
John McCain: 284785 (51.71%
B. H. Obama: 259974 (47.20%
http://www.foxnews.com/
It’s an ever morphing graphic, Craig…. Just since you posted 7 minutes ago, it’s already
Obama: 306266
McCain: 348309
Even at that, Kentucky is still only reporting between 11-12% of the total poll results.
But remember, much to your chagrin, popular vote doesn’t mean anything here.
NAACP lawsuit to force Philadelphia County to count emergency paper ballots when polls close this eve.
How many people in America will be able to separate race from political position tonight or tomorrow, or after the election is cold and buried? How many blacks will call racism no matter the outcome? How many whites will see the contradiction in that opposition and realize the awful truth about our so called open minded society?
The truth is we have a very muddled election tonight. What we have here is more a referendum on our conscious political attitudes and fundamental positions than it is on race or even political affiliation. There are no clear statements of position as much as there are sublimated contests on the extremes in the current American political societies.
The two major political parties have grown ever more extreme over the years, this election is the logical, if undesired, result. This election is more than ever about those extremes, not so much about current political choices as political platforms developed over years. We have a slightly racial, slightly political but an overall climactic event contesting the two extremes. One extreme is focused in an elitist, liberal, academic bunker, where previous political extremist positions are forgotten for the current extreme position of the one camp. The other camp comprised of rural and less populated areas of the country seeing itself as defending the patriotism of America in a time of dire challenge from internal and external forces, some past, some current.
The count of voters in this election will tell more than the arguments put forth by either candidate in any of their speeches. The behavior of people of this country in the aftermath will add further commentary to the vote. Our country might well be made or broken in the next few days.
Moody Deep… I doth believe you’ve over’analyzed yourself into fantasy, guy. Such gloom! Good grief…
This nation will neither be “made” nor “broken” because of this election. It has always been split/divided. It’s rare that elections are landslides. Even Mr. Popular, Teflon Bill Clinton, never reached the 50% mark of popular votes.
It has always been a battle of the urbanites, demanding social welfare programs, against the rural “fly over country” dwellers who don’t want their taxes and income robbed by govt. And I suspect that, unless Obama can cram all of us in the city areas to “conserve”, it will always be that way.
This will be a close race. Can the bitterness be any worse than in 2000? Doubtful. But of course, that depends on if Obama is the loser. Those Dem types can carry a BS grudge a long time….
This nation has lived thru, and improved race relations. I just don’t see us returning to all out race warfare in this day and age.
This election stuff still, remains, like watching grass grow….
I hear CNN is calling PA for Obama based on exit polls. Fox refuses to call it, citing the WPE index that has shown exit polls have fluctuated 11 points difference from exit polls to reported results.
geeez…. patience is a lost art.
OB: 108
MC: 39
God this sh!t is nerve wrecking
Custer, you did say you were a new voter. Welcome to the election fray. Sometimes ya lose, sometimes ya win. But you never stop trying to register your opinion.
Grab a bottle of your favorite beverage, believe nothing until tomorrow AM, and watch the media make fools of themselves.
Bad news is that the media is predicting the supermajority has a great chance of happening. sigh…. Sometimes lessons must be learned the hard way, I guess. UPDATED: that may have been premature reporting (surprise surprise)! The only consolation for a McCain/Palin loss is the loss of a supermajority in tandem.
Me? I’m taking a break and attempting to find a movie for awhile. As I said… this is like watching grass grow with intermittent “breaking news” of a new sprout peeking it’s head thru.
It would be wrong to cast this vote in a vacuum of domestic or international problems. This vote is being watched by the entire world. Not in casual interest, but in points of what they might do next.
Domestically, I see a real problem when the House, the Senate and the President are all left of center Democrats with an agenda. That means that January 21, 2009 Pelosi and Reid will be reading the riot act to Obama. I predict it will go like this “Listen, Obama, you are new in town, we’ll tell you how it goes here. When we say jump, you jump and stay up till we tell you to come down”. Or maybe you have a more benevolent view of Pelosi. This is an election that may well bring to the fore the various interests that have meandered about in the political background for many years. What is the purpose of our government? Is it to provide earmarks and redistribution of wealth or to see to the Constitutional provisions? The extremes of the parties has grown to the fore now, with this election those conflicts will come to focus. What is the point of the Democrats? Is it the interests of unions and the card check vote? Does Nancy Pelosi speak for you when she says this next Congress will take some steps that she sees as necessary? What about the Fairness Doctrine? Do you have any idea how long that has been kicking around? Maybe a little FCC control of the internet? Real quick, while you are still considering me reactionary, do a Google of ‘fairness doctrine’, see who its main proponents are, how long they have been pursuing it and maybe dig into why. What did Obama say about a national police force, and who kicked the press off his plane when they asked Gaffer Joe hard questions or endorsed McCain?
Who do you think is the heir apparent for the Democrats in 2012 or 2016? Did you consider what they might have in mind given that this current candidate doesn’t think Billy Ayers is a problem?
By the way. the Iranians are not exactly holding their breaths while we vote. You might consider the troops Syria, the #1 with a bullet client state of Iran, has in place around Lebanon and on the border of Israel. Do not think for one minute that they did that because they wanted to stop smuggling. And don’t forget the Iranian well armed and politically well placed proxy army Hezbollah. What kind of future does Israel face if the Middle east at large sees an accommodating U.S. Government come into power? Or the matter of establishing a safe snug deep water harbor for the Russians in Tartus. Do you have any idea why the Russians have a port in Tartus or have promised to supply state of the art radar and missiles to Syria and Iran? It ain’t because they see McCain as the next president.
One other thing. This may be a thin lead, but I watched that woman the other day say that she wouldn’t have to worry about her utilities or house payment after Obama was elected. I don’t think for a moment that that was representative, but I don’t forget either how many bacteria it takes to overwhelm a human body and cause disease. If she represents even a small percentage of the people voting for Obama, we got a problem. This isn’t so much about race as it is about the hypocrisy that has embedded itself in the question of race in this country. That hypocrisy is going to come out like we have never seen before. Nobody is really ready for that.
You guys who started voting on or after 1980 have been spoiled. My first election was 1968. My voting record has been as follows: ’68 Humphrey (L), ’72 McGovern (L), ’76 McCarthy (did this in appreciation for the taking down of Lyndon Johnson in ’68) (L), ’80 Carter (L), ’84 Mondale (L), ’88 Dukakis (L). Then, after suffering through 6 losing Presidential election nights in a row (over 24 years), I caught a break in ’92 and ’96, before going back to my losing ways in ’00 and ’04.
So, in 10 prior Presidential elections, dating back 40 years today, I’ve had two prior nights of enjoying the electoral map being painted out, offset by eight disappointments, where I realized that I needed to wait four whole years to get back in the game.
Interesting thing, though. I survived. Life went on. I got married. I finished my education. Started and grew my career. Had children. Enjoyed watching them grow up. Every single day, almost, was a happy day.
Moral: The sun will come up, tomorrow. Live long, and prosper.
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach
“I know nothing grander, better exercise, better digestion, more positive proof of the past, the triumphant result of faith in human kind, than a well-contested American national election.” — Walt Whitman, American poet (1819-1892).
I feel sick at heart. Felt this way when Clinton got in. I lived thru it but even Clinton wasn’t this far left.
I think I will make a bumber sticker for my car that says “If you voted for “The One”, don’t come whinning to me”.
It won’t hit them for a while but sooner or later it has to dawn on them that maybe this wasn’t the best “The One” for the nation.
I for one am going to find something nice and relaxing to do that has nothing to do with politics.
(Maybe some great music, a nice glass of Baileys and a hot bubble bath)
At least for a while…until “The one” does something that ticks me off…again.
That shouldn’t take long.
Thanks for all the good reading. I have really enjoyed it. Nice to know there are people out there that can actually think.
(I still be reading FA tho..I will need to touch base with good minds more than ever now.)
Wow, Larry…. you really have quite the loser list on your voting record. Sorry, but what can I say. McGovern, Carter ( a “winning” loser), Mondale, and Humphrey?? Remind me not to contact you on stock options or lottery picks… :0)
And I agree… you did grow and prosper, and the sun did come up tomorrow. And yes.. because of the structure of our government, it will also do tomorrow, despite any outcome today. We elect presidents, not despots for life. Congress, however, always worries me.
I’ve visited your facility site. I suspect you and I are on such opposite ends politically. But I also suspect we could break bread in peace and enjoyment. Such is the nature of American politics.
But did you ever stop to think that the reason you have “grown and prospered”… as well as your research facility being able to do the good it has… is specifically because you lost the bulk of those elections with your personal picks? How interesting life would be to be able to view alternative paths in a different universe.
I have to say, were I 20-30 years old… perhaps even in my early 40-50s… tonight’s early calls would be more sad than usual. As it is, I am a resilient senior. If the nation chooses a socialist route, I do know how to adapt. Such is the advantage of age.
However I’m quite sure the 20-30s generation will not be thrilled with the increased number of my age that will find themselves dependent upon govt welfare social programs for income and health… not to mention energy which affects us all. I suggest they stop blogging and get to work. The population of my age will quickly overwhelm them. And they’d better get busy making cash to support us all, and a possible President Obama’s spending fantasies.
How many times I gotta say it?!?
WE’RE SCREWED!
Mata, you rock. I’m a huge fan. I’m also a big fan of this blog. Kind of a lurker.
I voted for Obama (and all the other non-GOPs I described), but I also voted for Dana Rohrabacher, our local GOP/libertarian congressperson. I’m an actual Joe-the-plumber type small businessman who will pay more tax under Obama; don’t think it’s such a huge deal to pay a 39% marginal tax, as opposed to 36%, and, having seen my retirement portfolio go down by 45%, wouldn’t object to paying social security tax up to the max of my income.
Anyway, I posted an analysis of my projection of an Obama Presidency yesterday. Still hasn’t made it past the Flopping Aces censors. Take home message: Obama is about Obama; he’s not a Euro-Socialist. He’s about securing the position as the greatest President in the history of the USA. He’s like Clinton and Nixon, only much better at it and without the fatal flaws. Cold. Calculating. A Chicago lib when it’s to his advantage to be a Chicago lib. But he doesn’t have true core values, beyond being a big success. I totally understand why he’d be antithetical to people who value people with core values. But I think that Obama will be remembered as the greatest political pragmatist in the history of the USA.
He’ll surprise everyone. He’ll disappoint many passionate supporters and surprise many passionate foes.
So you ride motorcycles. With or without a helmet? (hope the former; as I said, you rock).
– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach
We tried, we lost…I pray for the country and the new leaders. I will support them when right, and oppose them when wrong. God Bless America.
I think we’ve just lost the cold war. God help us.
@Aye Chihuahua: In the USA too 🙂
I think I speak for all of us when I say “Damn it!”
I cannot support this man. I’m sorry. I don’t think I ever will be able to.
I hope his gallup ratings fall farther below that of George Bush’s. Here’s one who doesn’t approve of him.
I am so disgusted with Americans. I thought Americans where intelligent, I guess I was wrong. Sorry, but they are stupid jerks. I am so mad at conservative “good guy” loser attitude. The “good guys” got screwed, like usual.
Who won? The crooks, Acorn, the leftist socialist communist who voted more than one time, Jeremiah Wright and Ayers and all the American haters and pro-terrorists who hates your guts, Farrakhan and Khalidi who hates Israel, the MSM who corrupted people’s mind, etc. WOW! How impressive! Remarkable!
I feel so sorry for America, but I guess you are getting what you deserve. This is where an overdose of tolerance leads you. WOW! When will be the next WTC attack? Good luck with your economy that will never recover from an Obama presidency. Good luck with your stupid socialist health care system. Good luck for all your higher taxes and welfare. Good luck with your Constitution that will all be changed. You will never be able to recognize your country anymore. America No.1? No, never again. But who cares? You will respect your President anyways… so WTF?
WOW! Now you have a President who wrote in his book: “”I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Gee, lucky you! Muslims first, Americans second. But who gives a damn? USA will be a terrorist sanctuary anyway. So they will agree with him all the way.
I’m not even sorry for McCain, he wanted to be the “good guy”… fine, he lost. That is what he deserves. I am only sorry for Sarah Palin who stood up and did not try to be the “good guy”. Gee I hate good guys!
Obama fought all the way in all manners, he used all the dirty tricks in the book, he lied, he flip-flopped, he cheated, he played the racism card, he got the worst associations someone can get and he used the most vicious tactics… and guess what? HE WON! The “good guys” let him win. Well the “good guys” deserved to lose.
My only hope for you is that they discover that Obama was born in Kenya and that he is not an American citizen. That is the only hope I have for you. But you don’t seem to care; tomorrow you will be friend with the leftists who stole your country. What a pity! I had misjudged Americans. I really thought they where intelligent people. What a deception! This is a nightmare!
Hey Mr. Larry
We always enjoy dissenting opinions here when they are articulate, well researched and intelligently presented. It’s actually a spirited and diverse FA group of authors here… altho I suspect somewhat dispirited tonight.
ANd to that, INRE your comments:
All I can say is I hope that for you, and other “joe the plumbers” that his promised 39% “marginal” tax is all it will be. I, along with others… as well as many far more knowlegable economists… predict that to be far higher since Obama’s spending is not limited to his tax policies. But then again, it will not be the first time a politician has taken office, and not done what he has promised. In this case, that is our greatest hope.
It is entirely likely that our current economy forbids Obama from becoming what he truly wishes to be. For his spending plans are built on an economy that no longer exists.
I have not seen your “analysis” pass our FA filters or spam as a comment. If it was submitted as a guest reader post, and is not conservative in it’s construct, it’s truly up to Curt as to whether it becomes a guest post. Curt built FA up on his own reputation. All of us, tho a mixture of GOP, Dems and Indy’s in our policy beliefs, still lean conservative. If you have a copy, I suggest you pick an appropriate post to put it in as a comment. Other than that, I totally concur with Curt that a conservative blog remains, in it’s foundation, conservative.
As for as your “take home message”, it will be good news to those of us here to see Obama renege on the bulk of his campaign promises for personal glory, and not steer the US towards a Euro-socialist nation. I’m not sure I agree with you, tho. I think Obama’s heart and soul in policy belief is steeped in that socialist direction. With enough of Congressional support, there is no stopping him.
So I guess only time will tell if your belief in him is misplaced. And of course, you, along with the rest of us, will pay that price if you are wrong. I suppose our only difference is I can look at you and say “I tried”….. as kind of a “na naaa nanaaaa na” – the best I can do at the moment, eh?
But it’s actually rather curious that you seem to admire that “cold, calculating” trait about him. I like that you recognize it. But I’m rather taken aback that you find that a plus. Granting such a personality unchecked power makes my blood run cold. But then, as I said, this nation doesn’t elect life time despots, and we’ve survived bad presidents in the past.
But you, Larry… you looked. You saw him as a man concerned with self gratification, and made a bet that he would not be able to do the damage he promises. One day you must explain that quasi-logic more in depth.
In one way, there is no loss. Had you voted McCain in California, you… like myself (a speck of red in a sea of Oregon blue)… would have little voice but a “plus one” on the popular vote that carries no value in our system. So in one way, it’s unlikely your McCain support would have moved the earth.
As far as the m’cycle and skid lid? Yes… ride, and not enough, gosh darn. Think I may start getting more riding time in as it lightens the heart, if not freezes the fingertips in our neck of the woods. I ride with helmet… not because it’s my choice, but because it’s the law. And one I spent much of my time battling when I was in southern Cal. As a matter of fact, in my days there, I suspect I knew many of your beach cops by name… They did so love to stop me for wearing a helmet… just because they didn’t like the “looks” of it. But that’s a whole other story.
Congratulations,stupid white America. You never seem to let me down whith your stupid ass way of thinking. I hope you all enjoy what you witness during the next four years. I live in Chicago and believe me , it sickens me to see all of these dumb ass people crying on tv for this guys bullshit speech. I’ve never been so ashamed of living in Illinois in my life. I don’t believe these people know what they are in for the next four years. It just goes to show you what idiots democrats are. They don’t have a jack ass for a symbol for nothing.
Well, Craig… :0)… what can I say? You are totally and refreshingly yourself. Outspoken, and do not mince your words.
But remember, you speak as if all the “dirty deeds” Obama promises are already done just by his win. (which, BTW, I abandoned watching hours ago, and will confirm when the real ballot numbers are in tomorrow AM….) The battle here has only just begun. Now the battle is to hold Obama, and his ego and power, in check with strict rein.
So I’d say hold off on wishing us ill with a social/universal healthcare system that does not yet exist, and the rest of the nightmare scenario that Obama has promised for years on the campaign trail. Politicians say anything to get elected, and Obama is the quintessential politician.
However accomplishing what he promised? Most pols that have been elected in the past have not been able to do so.
And that’s where we come into play. So don’t give up on the US of A because of a truly f*#ked up 24 hour election day. We are not a nation that goes down in flames without a fight.
MataHarley,
Doesn’t it make you wonder what our future choices will be? Is there anyone out there who can really lead our country out of all this criteria we are buried in? I don’t think I will live to see good times in our great country again. Maybe I just want to hear something positive today , I don’t know.
“But remember, you speak as if all the “dirty deeds” Obama promises are already done just by his win.” (Mata)
It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t do everything he promised. Just to think of all the other things he did not told you that he WILL DO. He will screw-up your country for good in every ways possible. Please do not compare him to the idiotic Carter or Clinton, he is much more dangerous than these past Presidents. He has a secret agenda and he has all the associations he needs to, to make it comme true.
I will not visit the States till he gets out of there. No way will I even put one foot on U.S. land with him as a President. I hate everything about this guy, he is evil and you will soon find out.
Anyways, I just hope that Bush will attack Iran before Obama gets sign-in. And if Bush doesn’t do it, I hope Israel will. Because Obama is on Iran side. Get in your head that Obama hates America and all the white folks that lives there. It is so obvious.
P.S.: Oh my God a forgot one more thing. Michelle Obama as the First Lady… yurk! That hateful woman who is not even proud of her country. You people are toasted!
Craig,
You are so right! And Israel will attack Iran before Bush leaves office.
I learned more about John McCain and Barack Obama watching a two hour, election-eve special on PBS, than I did in hundreds of hours of reading news stories and op-eds and viewing 3 complete Presidential debates:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice2008/
Obama’s ambition is to be recognized as the greatest President in American history. He has plotted and managed his career with even greater foresight and skill than did Bill Clinton. He has greater assets than Clinton and none of the weaknesses. The fact that no one was able to dig up any sexual dirt on him virtually qualifies him for sainthood, given his obvious unlimited opportunities. He has ideals and he has friends, but he’s been willing to sacrifice both ideals and friendship to the imperatives of his one true loyalty, which is his own place in future history.
On the PBS/Frontline program, one of the most revealing segments was that of his Harvard Law School career, particularly that of his election to and tenure as President of the Harvard Law Review. Disappointing many of his supporters, he only named a single African-American to a masthead position on the Law Review, while naming 3 conservatives, one of whom later became a Bush White House lawyer.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice2008/obama/harvard.html
(Scroll down to and read the comments of Bradford Berenson — said Bush White House lawyer)
Obama’s positions, whether on people or issues, have been both calculated and changeable. The strongest constant is the furtherance of his objective to succeed at the very highest level. This is not a person seeking to impose a Euro-socialist agenda. He’s been a Chicago liberal because its been expedient to be a Chicago liberal. It’s got him to where he is today. But he’s not about to sacrifice his opportunity to achieve historical greatness in the furtherance of social idealism or environmental idealism. And he’s a tough as nails SOB who will defend America, because this is also what is required for him to achieve the historical greatness he seeks. This was also part of his “stupid bull—- speech.”
He is a very smart, very shrewd, very dedicated, very pragmatic individual. I understand entirely why he may be antithetical to those who value people guided by unyielding “core beliefs” in ideals such as religion or economic doctrine or social doctrine or environmental doctrine.
I think that we have had Presidents guided by such principles. George W Bush was/is one of these Presidents. Ronald Reagan was another. But Jimmie Carter was yet another.
Obama is more of the “cloth” of Clinton and Nixon, but he possesses greater skills, insight, political intelligence, and he fortunately appears to be without the fatal flaws of character.
The politics of his Presidency are likely to evolve away from the politics of what brought him to the Presidency.
He is certain to surprise.
Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach
I believe that when he implements his radical “change” he promised in the form of higher taxes, higher government spending to pay for his Marxist and socialistic programs, taking troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. he will be remembered as being more of a Herbert Hoover than a Nixon or a Clinton.
I disagree with you Carl,
I believe that when he implements his radical “change” he promised in the form of higher taxes, higher government spending to pay for his programs, taking troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, etc. he will be remembered as being more of a new American Superhero than a Herbert Hoover …
Obama new hero from America … 🙂
And what superhero would that be, Brandon? Brother Power the Geek? Matter Eater Lad? Zan from the Wonder Twins? Dazzler? Extraño? Captain Planet? Captain Caveman? Yeah, when Obama’s socialism hits the fan, he won’t qualify as a “superhero” even those lame ones I cited.
By the way folks, look ’em up…every one of those superheroes I mentioned actually existed in either cartoons or comic books.
Socialist, My ASS! The useless fucker is an out and out communist.
The Old Retired Petty Officer doesn’t have to play nice if he doesn’t want to.
“Obama is more of the “cloth” of Clinton and Nixon…”
Sounds like PBS, the propaganda arm of the Left, is reaching out to our senility. Nixon was not of the same “cloth” as Clinton, not by a long stretch.
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Brandon, it’s more like Obama will be more Hoobert Heaver than Hoobert Heaver himself, and then some.
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So, is this what it feels like to be “date raped?”
No, he will be remembered as having sucked more than a Super Hoover Vacuum-Cleaner. The America’s job market, election system integrity, political corruption, infractions against our rights, tax rates and out of control government spending sprees, new U.N. powers over our sovereignty, etceteras. It will all suck to the extreme.
I’m appalled by the corruption and illegal activities that have aided BHO. In each instance, he’s received a free pass each and every step of the way. This signals me that the fate decided for this world could not be averted. The signs established were clear once he began to be referred to as the Messiah and he chose to endorse this belief, instead of refuting it as any true Christian would.
I had hoped that maybe, just maybe, the Anti-Christ would not become a leader of this country. I had a bad feeling this would not be the case; I.E. It is God’s will that the Apocalypse would be at hand as predicted. God has begun his final tests of mankind prior to the end of this epoch and to herald in the next. So pull out the family Bibles and read up on the Revelation.
I plan to shift some of my attention to research of the various prophecies. This means looking into the various religious writings procured, as well as Mayan, Incan, Aztek, Chinese, & other cultural prophecies, and those of known figures such as Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and the Judeau-Christian Prophets. I’ll try to keep you advised of what I find. For now, here is a taste of events to be on the alert for:
– Droughts will continue to place worsening losses of food supplies and increased demand. There will be hoarding and shortages of world food supplies. With crop failures effecting 1/3 of all harvests. It will get so bad that some will turn towards cannibalization of their fellow man.
– This War on Terrorism, is the Jihad, and Apocalyptic Holy War will spread to Greater Europe and turn to outright guerrilla skirmishes, particularly in urban areas.
– The droughts will be followed by heavy rains and hail. With the reduction of plant life to buffer and absorb the waters, and hard dry earth, the flooding will be widespread. Particularly effected will be central Europe; Eastern France and Italy.
– Pope Benedictine, the final pope before the descent of the Holy Roman (Saint Peter) will be force by the floods to relocate the Vatican.
– Terrorists will seize on this as an opportunity to strike a symbolic and savage blow against Christianity by attempting a massacre of the Catholic theological hierarchy, Pope Benedict and his court. It’s not yet clear if this will be successful.
All things are possible to them that believe. Napoleon Hill once said “Whatever the human mind can conceive and believe it can achieve”. Against all odds, against negative ads, negative rhetoric, negative commentary, the American dream conceived in the heart of a believer, became a reality for a nation.
There were those that cooked up a kitchen sink strategy to sink Senator Barak Obama’s election campaign. The kitchen sink strategy failed. Others tried mudslinging politics . That failed. The precision of the Obama 2008 Election team remained sure , stedfast focused on real issues to win the campaign. The pages of history will declare the folly of kitchen sink strategy and mudslinging politics.
All American’s are to be congratulated for showing the world that democracy has never been a dream . Democracy is a reality . South Africa had President Nelson Mandela , The United States of America has President Barak Obama.
Political pundits may have a lot to say about this and that. History books will record the brilliance of the well organised and well disciplined and adequately financed Obama 2008 campaign.
It was said before, some months ago “…That if God wants Barak Obama to be President, nothing or nobody can stop that…”. History now records that he will be the 44th President of the United States of America.
May God’s protection, God’s wisdom and God’s peace be with President elect Barak Obama and his wife Michelle and their children.May God continue to bless and be with the United States of America.
A great campaign. Democracy in action. Errol Smythe.
OMG… here I thought with election day over, I didn’t have to endure more “just words” and “soaring rhetoric” BS. And here comes Errol, just brimming with feel good, squishy crap. Well, ya know, Errol? I don’t mind losing an election because I was raised in good ol’ America where competition and winners also meant there were losers. Not like we’re teaching our kids now with scoreless games so as not to offend.
But I’ll be danged if I’m going to listen to you attempt to wax eloquent over the “cold, calculating” rise to power of a self absorbed, affirmative action driven POTUS. i.e. you said:
Ah… dreams. You think that 52% of this nation’s population who voted for Obama represents the entire nation’s dreams? That means that 48% of them voted for McCain or third parties. And that 48% doesn’t see Obama’s dreams as their own.
And speaking of… just what are Obama’s dreams, other than to ascend to personal “greatness”? I’ll remind you… from Obama’s “A More Perfect Union” speech.
Obama’s notion of “prosper” also entains the belief that *his* dreams suffered by the very existence of mine.
That’s not only horse manure and soaring rhetoric fodder for dewey eyed utopian types like you, that’s a warning that in order to …. supposedly…. give someone else’s dreams a chance, another must give up theirs.
You and Obama want now to “redistribute the dream” as well as the “wealth”. That, Errol, is not the American dream.
Your obvious preference for fantasy over facts is indicative of the under educated, narcissistic mentality that has been instilled in this nation via the public education system for decades. What you call the “kitchen sink” strategy was a series of facts and road signs as to who Obama is. That you call it “mudslinging” and miss it’s import is not in the least bit surprising. For you are obviously the DNC poster child of Americans, incapable of making wise decisions for their lives and prosperity… which is why they want to step in and do it for you.
Hope you like the hand of cards they deal you. But I suspect your glow of utoptia will lose it’s luster with reality.
Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.
God will appreciate it.