Posted by Curt on 3 October, 2008 at 6:23 pm. 4 comments already!


Read through this fact checking article at the AP where five writers….count them….FIVE….fact checked the VP debate and they missed this:

Here’s what the president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank, when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, “Big mistake. Hamas will win. You’ll legitimize them.” What happened? Hamas won.

West Bank? Try Gaza Joe…..there ya go again Joe.

Lets say that is what he meant to say…cough bulls%^t….but lets just say that. Please someone find me a quote from either of these two where they said “watch it…Hamas will win if your not careful”. The polls didn’t say that. Check it out here and here and here.

All of them had Fatah winning.

Hell, Biden didn’t even sign this when he had the chance:

December 2005,Talent/Nelson Letter Urging Pres. Bush to Press Palestinian Leadership to Bar Terrorist Groups from Participating in Palestinian Legislative Elections, 73 co-signers: Sen. Biden did not sign this letter barring terror groups from participating in Palestinian elections which ultimately had 73 co-signers.

Ya think if he was soooooo sure Hamas was going to win he would of signed on to it huh?

Obama wasn’t too upset about the win anyways:

During His 2006 Trip To The Middle East, Obama Met With Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas And Said The Election Represented An “Opportunity…To Consolidate Behind A Single Government.” “Illinois Senator Barack Obama’s journey to the Middle East took him to the West Bank Thursday for a meeting with the man elected to replace Yasser Arafat. … For a time Thursday in the West Bank there was only the clatter of cameras as the newly elected president of the Palestinian authority, Mahmoud Abbas, met with Illinois Senator Barack Obama. At a meeting with Palestinian students Thursday, Obama said the U.S. will never recognize winning Hamas candidates unless the group renounces its fundamental mission to eliminate Israel, and Obama told ABC7 he delivered that message to the Palestinian president. ‘Part of the opportunity here with this upcoming election is to consolidate behind a single government with a single authority that can then negotiate as a reliable partner with Israel,’ said Obama.” (Chuck Goudie, “Obama Meets With Arafat’s Successor,” ABC 7 News,, 1/12/06)

The Palestinian News Agency WAFA Reported That Obama Was Supportive Of The Palestinian Elections Being Held At Their Scheduled Time. “President Mahmoud Abbas met Thursday with the U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), in the Presidential HQ in Ramallah…President briefed the U.S. Senator about the latest developments in the Palestinian territories including the preparations for the legislative elections…. Abbas and Obama discussed the means of underpinning the American-Palestinian economic relations…Obama asserted the US supports and eager that the Palestinian legislative elections on its proposed time (January 25).”

Lets move onto this doozy:

When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said, and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will control it

What alternative universe are we talking about here Joe? There ya go again Joe.

Neither France, nor NATO, nor the US ever kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon. Check it out, they are still there.

Did he goof again and mean Syria. We can only guess. But if he did then yes, France, the US, pretty much all of western Europe helped by urging them to leave but it was ultimately the Lebanese who did the job. As for his assertion…again…that Biden and Obama had a hand in getting the help over there, puhlease.

As for NATO going in after the 2006 debacle, well, I’m the one who rounded up 8,000 French and Italians and a few thousand other Euros to go into Southern Lebanon along with an assortment of others in August 2006 and while working that issue for about 40 straight days I don’t remember a peep from Biden or Obama about NATO – which wouldn’t be budged despite our intense pressure in Mons. So, we went straight to Rome and Paris. Que sera, sera.

Michael Totten isn’t giving Biden the benefit of the doubt:

But he clearly meant to say Hezbollah, not Syria, because he correctly notes just a few sentences later that Hezbollah is part of Lebanon’s government. He wasn’t talking about Syria. He was talking about Hezbollah all the way through, at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of his outlandish assertion.

Another one the “fact checkers” forgot about:

BIDEN: Can I clarify this? This is simply not true about Barack Obama. He did not say sit down with Ahmadinejad.

Uh, yeah:

But the fact checkers missed all of this….how can this be?

No bias huh?

If Sarah had made similar gaffes you woulda thunk the armageddon was coming from all the thunder you would hear from the MSM.

But this foreign policy whiz kid made them and….


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