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No, it is never too late to start questioning some ones judgement in my opinion. I just wish we had some one with more experience than two years as a Governor.
McCain is my man, I will vote for him, but if anyone thinks a woman will vote for McCain simply because he picked Palin is fooling themselves. The Veep needs to be President-Ready, how could anyone think she is?
Anyone remember Dan Qualye who was meant to balance that ticket? How did that work out?
Yes I guess as the Gov of a lowly populated state for about 700 days is good. Oh, and before that she was the Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska which is nice.
I don’t hate her, I was just hoping for better. Obama is wrong because he is not ready and she has done less than him.
Am I the only one that has the courage to say this? I always saw myself being the guy to plead with you to stick with McCain if he did not pick Fred.
I am still voting for him and volunteering today from 2 – 5pm.
doug
15 years ago
Doocy on Fox: ‘She has foreign policy experience. She’s right up their next to Russia!’
…and that’s about as close to having foreign policy experience it gets, too.
Fit fit
15 years ago
McCain throws a up a Hail Mary. Not a pick for someone who is serious about the American Presidency. Very Pretty. Bit of a Lightweight. Hail Marys sometimes work.
Scott Malensek
15 years ago
She’s commander of Alaska’s National Guard. My guess is that if Joe Biden questions whether she’s ready to command the US military she can always threaten to invade Delaware. Oh how I’d love to see that in a debate.
This is FANFRIGGINTASTIC imo!
The parties are now balanced!
No more debates about experience
No more debates about age
No more black, white, woman, man bs
It is GAME ON!
Now….it’s about the issues, and who is after the job for the title, and who just wants the hat.
McCain relegated the news of the Obama-Biden Greek Tragedy to the bottom of the news.
Brilliantly conceived on the part of McCain.
Cool.
bill-tb
15 years ago
Great American. Brilliant choice, McCain goes right.
The woman conservatives have been waiting for.
bbartlog
15 years ago
I think this is a good choice for the situation. If McCain were a big favorite to win already then this would have been too risky, but under the circumstances this kind of bold move serves to upstage Obama at a key moment while shaking up people’s assumptions. Love it.
I also think that character is more important than experience (though of course there has to be a track record to judge character by) and that most of the people with twenty years of experience in Washington DC just have twenty years of practice carrying water for lobbyists.
Of course the foreign policy thing is an issue, but presumably McCain has enough experience for both of them. It does make you worry about what would happen if McCain keeled over, but the VP isn’t expected to be a perfect substitute for the President, otherwise they’d already have the nomination instead.
Finally, it’s nice to see someone with a working class background in the race. She broke her fingers on a salmon fishing boat, love that. Obama for all his racial consciousness is basically from an upper middle class family.
SoCal Chris
15 years ago
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! When I turned on Fox this morning and heard the news (Sarah Palin was just about to give her speech), I literally laughed out loud–with JOY!!!!! This is the most refreshing thing I’ve heard in a long time in politics!! 🙂 Great and gutsy move on McCain’s part…remember, he was a fighter pilot, so he’s used to doing gutsy things! Talk about mixing things up! Wow…I am so (pardon the SoCal jargon) STOKED!!!!
A few reasons why I think this is so smart: although Pawlenty is a good choice, I’m not sure a lot of people know of him. Granted, a lot of folks may not know of Sarah Palin, but the news of a female V.P. choice, AND Governor of Alaska I think will resonate with voters really well, and everyone will look forward to getting to know her better. To say she is interesting is the understatement of the year. She’s also very much pro-life, advocates oil drilling, strongly supports the 2nd Amendment being an NRA member, and most of all has something that the Democratic Presidential nominee doesn’t have–executive EXPERIENCE!! This is an excerpt from her bio at McCain’s website:
[After moving to the Valley and graduating from Wasilla High, Sarah earned her Journalism degree from the University of Idaho. She worked in media and the utility industry before beginning her public service 14 years ago.
Sarah was elected to two terms on the Wasilla City Council, and then two terms as the Mayor / Manager of Alaska’s fastest growing community. During her tenure as Mayor she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment drawing in new industry. The responsibility of managing dozens of employees including a growing police department and public works department, and overseeing the multimillion dollar capital and operating budgets provided her with hands-on, 21st Century relevant administrative experience. Sarah’s demonstrated leadership was also recognized when she was elected by her mayoral peers as President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska’s communities.
Sarah served as Chairman of Alaska’s Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska’s most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She also served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. Sarah was named one of Alaska’s “Top 40 Under 40”, Alaska’s Public Works “Person of the Year”, and was recently inducted into the Sigma Beta Delta Honor Society at Alaska Pacific University.
Sarah is currently an elected board member of Valley Hospital, has served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the State, and stays active as a marathon runner, sports team mom, hockey manager and school volunteer.]
Jason
15 years ago
just a few words… i’m looking forward to see thing unfold.
CenFla, Palin doesn’t have enough experience to be President, although she has more experience than Obama to be president (as a governor, you know), but she has enough experirence to be VP.
The only thing I can find in the Constitution concerning the duties of the VP is that he/she is the President of the Senate and will take the President’s place in case of sickness or death. Aside from that, the VP’s job description is whatever the president wants it to be.
Amy I agree with you that Ms. Palin does not have enough experience to be President. ( I agree with you that Obama does not have enough experience to be President also obviously.) But that is presicely the problem. If John wanted a woman on the ticket he should have picked Hutchinson or any of the other women mentioned. The easiest thing to hammer Obama on – his lack of experience – has been taken away, and their central issue – McCain’s Age has been bolstered.
The fact that Ms. Palin fishes and hunts is not a reason to celebrate her candidacy. And neither is 20 months of being governor of one of our least populated states. Well, about 20 months, I forgot she was on maternity leave for a chunk of that time.
Although as Chris points out, she was one of the Top 40 under 40 in Alaska. Maybe that makes her qualified.
I realize that the extreme conservatives like her, but you guys were voting for McCain already. He should have chosen someone to pull in the moderates like Pawlenty or Ridge. Even Newsmax is reporting that her deposition on her outser of the PSO will take place any day now.
Mike you don’t have to reply to my comments about something some one else said. I never said anything about the stupidity of the Harriet Miers nomination.
And thanks so much for ignoring my points and only commenting on the Extreme Conservatives line.
She removes McCain’s best weapon, she exacerbates Obama’s best weapon and does not help McCain win moderates in the general. If you disagree on any of those points let me know.
You’re wrong on those other points Cent. I was doing you a favor by politely ignoring it.
I think if you look around at some of the other threads here you’ll find that your concern has been dealt with.
Anyone who wants to draw attention to Obama’s lack of experience and qualification to sit in the Oval Office on day one by attacking Sarah Palin as the choice for #2 is stupid.
You don’t have to do me any favors Mike. I read the other threads too. I think to ignore her lack of experience is naive.
The voters who picked Obama are stupid. There was a huge gap for us to exploit. But Palin was hand chosen over Olympia Snowe, KB Hutchinson, and many other better choices. That is also stupid. But whomever said it was as stupid as picking Harriet Miers is not just stupid, they are insane.
Olympia Snowe? What are you smoking? Hutchinson would suck too. Neither would do anything to energize the base and Snowe would turn conservatives off. Neither would do much to attract the Hillary voter or the soccer Mom as they have been in the Senate too long.
What was most exciting about Palin is that she is fresh new conservative leadership that so many of us have been longing for.
I fully realize you don’t share any of those longings, but then you are not really a conservative.
bbartlog
15 years ago
I realize that the extreme conservatives like her, but you guys were voting for McCain already.
Depends on what you mean by ‘extreme conservatives’; you need to be more precise. The paleos and the pro-lifers will (and generally do) like the choice. People who are big on foreign policy are likely going to find her a less appealing choice.
Imagine that, MA telling someone else what they are…
I do not mean extreme as an insult, extreme conservatives are those that have the most conservative views. Why such a fervor over that?
I didn’t demean or name names.
Sarah Palin makes me wonder if everyone thinks, Hey why don’t I try and become VP.
If this is what makes “the base” come out and vote for McCain then I am saddened by the base.
Red73
15 years ago
CentFla it sounds as though you will not be happy with any candidate unless they have Washington experience. That is exactly what the country does not need.
Look at the women’s accomplishments. I was happy to hear this morning on Foxnews that the “youth vote” is doing just that.
Sarah is a basketball playing, gun toting, fishing, hockey mom who just happened to take on the corrupt in her home state and won, as well as big oil and won. She has included Democrats and Independents in every administration and reduced government spending.
With all due respect to every other female Republican who feels qualified for the job, you lack excitement. Sarah brings pazaz, youth, and a history of executive decision-making. She negotiates with foreign governments regularly and no one on the other ticket or potential female VP candidate can say that.
In short the rest of the field, male and female, are like shinny old Lincolns (The Democrat ticket is a Model T) and Sarah Palen is the *Ford AC Cobra 427: Smart, quick, stunning, high torque, and fearless.
* Attributable to Geoffrey P. Hunt on the American Thinker blog with modification.
Red73 summed it up very well. The last thing we needed was another old Senate warhorse on the GOP ticket to match the Dems. And thhe voters who think this was a great choice are putting their money where their mouth is. Contributions are pouring into the McCain campaign and people are writing “Sarah Palin” in the box where it asked who referred you.
It’s too bad that CentFla can’t get excited when the candidate HE has supported all along does something the rest of us like.
But then, CentFla seems to prefer being the naysayer.
Red I understand that she has a gun and believe me if I hear the term Hockey Mom one more time I am going to write a strongly worded letter the the NHL.
The problem is not that we needed someone with the stuff she brings. My neighbor’s wife is 700 days away from being exactly as qualified as Sarah Palin. That is simply not enough experience to suit me.
I only mentioned the other women because it is apparent that John felt pressure to meausre up to Obama’s historic ticket. I would have prefered Gov Pawlenty who has everything that Sarah does but in much, much higher quantity.
These headlines and donations are fantastic. But is she really who we think can do the job best? No frickin’ way. She has clearly charmed the media and many others in the short term but this should never, ever have been about a short term shot in the arm. It should be about whom is best suited to follow McCain if something should happen to him.
And Mike I have asked you before, and will thank you to use the term contrarian.
Now let’s all read another post about how she has a gun or her husband drives a snowmobile. Ooh, maybe there will be more information about how her water broke and she hopped on a plane to Alaska instead of seeking a local doctor! Those are excellent things to discuss about our 2d most powerful person in the country.
Hmmm, is she qualified to be President?
What a strange pick…
Certainly more qualified than the person in the top spot on the Dim ticket.
Cent: McCain is YOUR man. It’s a little late for you to start questioning his judgement.
No, it is never too late to start questioning some ones judgement in my opinion. I just wish we had some one with more experience than two years as a Governor.
McCain is my man, I will vote for him, but if anyone thinks a woman will vote for McCain simply because he picked Palin is fooling themselves. The Veep needs to be President-Ready, how could anyone think she is?
Anyone remember Dan Qualye who was meant to balance that ticket? How did that work out?
I just Hope McCain lives to be 81.
She has more executive experience then either Obama, McCain, and Biden.
Yes I guess as the Gov of a lowly populated state for about 700 days is good. Oh, and before that she was the Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska which is nice.
I don’t hate her, I was just hoping for better. Obama is wrong because he is not ready and she has done less than him.
Am I the only one that has the courage to say this? I always saw myself being the guy to plead with you to stick with McCain if he did not pick Fred.
I am still voting for him and volunteering today from 2 – 5pm.
Doocy on Fox: ‘She has foreign policy experience. She’s right up their next to Russia!’
…and that’s about as close to having foreign policy experience it gets, too.
McCain throws a up a Hail Mary. Not a pick for someone who is serious about the American Presidency. Very Pretty. Bit of a Lightweight. Hail Marys sometimes work.
She’s commander of Alaska’s National Guard. My guess is that if Joe Biden questions whether she’s ready to command the US military she can always threaten to invade Delaware. Oh how I’d love to see that in a debate.
This is FANFRIGGINTASTIC imo!
The parties are now balanced!
No more debates about experience
No more debates about age
No more black, white, woman, man bs
It is GAME ON!
Now….it’s about the issues, and who is after the job for the title, and who just wants the hat.
Yes, it’s Palin.
McCain relegated the news of the Obama-Biden Greek Tragedy to the bottom of the news.
Brilliantly conceived on the part of McCain.
Cool.
Great American. Brilliant choice, McCain goes right.
The woman conservatives have been waiting for.
I think this is a good choice for the situation. If McCain were a big favorite to win already then this would have been too risky, but under the circumstances this kind of bold move serves to upstage Obama at a key moment while shaking up people’s assumptions. Love it.
I also think that character is more important than experience (though of course there has to be a track record to judge character by) and that most of the people with twenty years of experience in Washington DC just have twenty years of practice carrying water for lobbyists.
Of course the foreign policy thing is an issue, but presumably McCain has enough experience for both of them. It does make you worry about what would happen if McCain keeled over, but the VP isn’t expected to be a perfect substitute for the President, otherwise they’d already have the nomination instead.
Finally, it’s nice to see someone with a working class background in the race. She broke her fingers on a salmon fishing boat, love that. Obama for all his racial consciousness is basically from an upper middle class family.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! When I turned on Fox this morning and heard the news (Sarah Palin was just about to give her speech), I literally laughed out loud–with JOY!!!!! This is the most refreshing thing I’ve heard in a long time in politics!! 🙂 Great and gutsy move on McCain’s part…remember, he was a fighter pilot, so he’s used to doing gutsy things! Talk about mixing things up! Wow…I am so (pardon the SoCal jargon) STOKED!!!!
A few reasons why I think this is so smart: although Pawlenty is a good choice, I’m not sure a lot of people know of him. Granted, a lot of folks may not know of Sarah Palin, but the news of a female V.P. choice, AND Governor of Alaska I think will resonate with voters really well, and everyone will look forward to getting to know her better. To say she is interesting is the understatement of the year. She’s also very much pro-life, advocates oil drilling, strongly supports the 2nd Amendment being an NRA member, and most of all has something that the Democratic Presidential nominee doesn’t have–executive EXPERIENCE!! This is an excerpt from her bio at McCain’s website:
[After moving to the Valley and graduating from Wasilla High, Sarah earned her Journalism degree from the University of Idaho. She worked in media and the utility industry before beginning her public service 14 years ago.
Sarah was elected to two terms on the Wasilla City Council, and then two terms as the Mayor / Manager of Alaska’s fastest growing community. During her tenure as Mayor she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment drawing in new industry. The responsibility of managing dozens of employees including a growing police department and public works department, and overseeing the multimillion dollar capital and operating budgets provided her with hands-on, 21st Century relevant administrative experience. Sarah’s demonstrated leadership was also recognized when she was elected by her mayoral peers as President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska’s communities.
Sarah served as Chairman of Alaska’s Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska’s most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She also served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. Sarah was named one of Alaska’s “Top 40 Under 40”, Alaska’s Public Works “Person of the Year”, and was recently inducted into the Sigma Beta Delta Honor Society at Alaska Pacific University.
Sarah is currently an elected board member of Valley Hospital, has served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the State, and stays active as a marathon runner, sports team mom, hockey manager and school volunteer.]
just a few words… i’m looking forward to see thing unfold.
CenFla, Palin doesn’t have enough experience to be President, although she has more experience than Obama to be president (as a governor, you know), but she has enough experirence to be VP.
The only thing I can find in the Constitution concerning the duties of the VP is that he/she is the President of the Senate and will take the President’s place in case of sickness or death. Aside from that, the VP’s job description is whatever the president wants it to be.
She’s a good pick.
Amy I agree with you that Ms. Palin does not have enough experience to be President. ( I agree with you that Obama does not have enough experience to be President also obviously.) But that is presicely the problem. If John wanted a woman on the ticket he should have picked Hutchinson or any of the other women mentioned. The easiest thing to hammer Obama on – his lack of experience – has been taken away, and their central issue – McCain’s Age has been bolstered.
The fact that Ms. Palin fishes and hunts is not a reason to celebrate her candidacy. And neither is 20 months of being governor of one of our least populated states. Well, about 20 months, I forgot she was on maternity leave for a chunk of that time.
Although as Chris points out, she was one of the Top 40 under 40 in Alaska. Maybe that makes her qualified.
I realize that the extreme conservatives like her, but you guys were voting for McCain already. He should have chosen someone to pull in the moderates like Pawlenty or Ridge. Even Newsmax is reporting that her deposition on her outser of the PSO will take place any day now.
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/cvn_palin_vulnerabilities/2008/08/29/126282.html
And that her lack of experience is going to be an issue.
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/cvn_veepstakes_analysis/2008/08/29/126173.html
I am clearly still voting for him, but I am disappointed.
“Extreme conservatives” Cent???
There you go again.
And again, you are WRONG!
The knuckledraggers aren’t as thrilled as the rest of us. One of them said this was another “Harriet Meirs.”
Again, McCain was and IS your boy. So if you want to complain, take it up with him.
Mike you don’t have to reply to my comments about something some one else said. I never said anything about the stupidity of the Harriet Miers nomination.
And thanks so much for ignoring my points and only commenting on the Extreme Conservatives line.
She removes McCain’s best weapon, she exacerbates Obama’s best weapon and does not help McCain win moderates in the general. If you disagree on any of those points let me know.
You’re wrong on those other points Cent. I was doing you a favor by politely ignoring it.
I think if you look around at some of the other threads here you’ll find that your concern has been dealt with.
Anyone who wants to draw attention to Obama’s lack of experience and qualification to sit in the Oval Office on day one by attacking Sarah Palin as the choice for #2 is stupid.
You don’t have to do me any favors Mike. I read the other threads too. I think to ignore her lack of experience is naive.
The voters who picked Obama are stupid. There was a huge gap for us to exploit. But Palin was hand chosen over Olympia Snowe, KB Hutchinson, and many other better choices. That is also stupid. But whomever said it was as stupid as picking Harriet Miers is not just stupid, they are insane.
Olympia Snowe? What are you smoking? Hutchinson would suck too. Neither would do anything to energize the base and Snowe would turn conservatives off. Neither would do much to attract the Hillary voter or the soccer Mom as they have been in the Senate too long.
What was most exciting about Palin is that she is fresh new conservative leadership that so many of us have been longing for.
I fully realize you don’t share any of those longings, but then you are not really a conservative.
I realize that the extreme conservatives like her, but you guys were voting for McCain already.
Depends on what you mean by ‘extreme conservatives’; you need to be more precise. The paleos and the pro-lifers will (and generally do) like the choice. People who are big on foreign policy are likely going to find her a less appealing choice.
Imagine that, MA telling someone else what they are…
I do not mean extreme as an insult, extreme conservatives are those that have the most conservative views. Why such a fervor over that?
I didn’t demean or name names.
Sarah Palin makes me wonder if everyone thinks, Hey why don’t I try and become VP.
If this is what makes “the base” come out and vote for McCain then I am saddened by the base.
CentFla it sounds as though you will not be happy with any candidate unless they have Washington experience. That is exactly what the country does not need.
Look at the women’s accomplishments. I was happy to hear this morning on Foxnews that the “youth vote” is doing just that.
Sarah is a basketball playing, gun toting, fishing, hockey mom who just happened to take on the corrupt in her home state and won, as well as big oil and won. She has included Democrats and Independents in every administration and reduced government spending.
With all due respect to every other female Republican who feels qualified for the job, you lack excitement. Sarah brings pazaz, youth, and a history of executive decision-making. She negotiates with foreign governments regularly and no one on the other ticket or potential female VP candidate can say that.
In short the rest of the field, male and female, are like shinny old Lincolns (The Democrat ticket is a Model T) and Sarah Palen is the *Ford AC Cobra 427: Smart, quick, stunning, high torque, and fearless.
* Attributable to Geoffrey P. Hunt on the American Thinker blog with modification.
Red73 summed it up very well. The last thing we needed was another old Senate warhorse on the GOP ticket to match the Dems. And thhe voters who think this was a great choice are putting their money where their mouth is. Contributions are pouring into the McCain campaign and people are writing “Sarah Palin” in the box where it asked who referred you.
It’s too bad that CentFla can’t get excited when the candidate HE has supported all along does something the rest of us like.
But then, CentFla seems to prefer being the naysayer.
Red I understand that she has a gun and believe me if I hear the term Hockey Mom one more time I am going to write a strongly worded letter the the NHL.
The problem is not that we needed someone with the stuff she brings. My neighbor’s wife is 700 days away from being exactly as qualified as Sarah Palin. That is simply not enough experience to suit me.
I only mentioned the other women because it is apparent that John felt pressure to meausre up to Obama’s historic ticket. I would have prefered Gov Pawlenty who has everything that Sarah does but in much, much higher quantity.
These headlines and donations are fantastic. But is she really who we think can do the job best? No frickin’ way. She has clearly charmed the media and many others in the short term but this should never, ever have been about a short term shot in the arm. It should be about whom is best suited to follow McCain if something should happen to him.
And Mike I have asked you before, and will thank you to use the term contrarian.
Now let’s all read another post about how she has a gun or her husband drives a snowmobile. Ooh, maybe there will be more information about how her water broke and she hopped on a plane to Alaska instead of seeking a local doctor! Those are excellent things to discuss about our 2d most powerful person in the country.
CentFla: You’re never happy with ANYTHING anyone does! Not even your prefered candidate McCain.
It goes beyond being a contrarian and way past annoying!