**UPDATE 06/08/08**
New info here.
**END UPDATE**
Larry Johnson with a new update on the “whitey” tape….take it for what its worth:
But all tell the same story–there is a tape of Michelle Obama appearing at a conference with Louis Farrakhan had she says some very disparaging things about white people.
My sources tell me the Republicans who have the tape are hanging on to it and do not (I REPEAT FOR YOU OBAMA CLOWNS) DO NOT want it released now. They want to use it against Barky in the fall. They fear that releasing it now will kill Obama’s political support and open the door for Hillary. The tape, I am told, appears to have been made in June 2004. It was not part of a pulpit service at Trinity. It was a conference. I am waiting for confirmation of the specific conference.
And now we have Beckel and Fund claiming a tape exists and is coming out tomorrow. Would be nice but I don’t know. What I do know for a fact is that the folks who control the tape want to keep it on ice until after the Democratic convention in Denver. Whether they will achieve this is outside my knowledge.
If it does exist then hopefully it does stay hidden until after Denver. It may well sway those who have yet to be swayed by these types associated with Obama…not all…but some. There will always be the starry eyed nimrods who follow the crowd to the next messiah, even if he has grown up around some of the most racist men steeped in the Black Theology culture.
UPDATE
HillBuzz has the scoop. Apparently it occured sometime between June 26th and July 1st in 2005 at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference Women’s Event In Chicago. She appeared with Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks. There were other panels in the conference including one with Bill Clinton and Bill Crosby:
For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on “whitey”, and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that’s when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who’s seen this.
HillBuzz found a picture that have may have been taken during the event. It was printed in JET Magazine in July 2004:
CAPTION: Picture 11, Rev. Willie T. Barrow, chairman emerita, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, enjoys the Women’s Luncheon with Michelle Obama, wife of U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama of Illinois and executive director of community affairs, University of Chicago Hospital, Shoshana Johnson, the nation’s first Black female POW and former Iraqi captive, and Mrs. Jamell Meeks, wife of the Rev. James Meeks, vice president, Rainbow/PUSH, and Rev. Dr. Barbara King, Mother Khadijah Farrakhan, wife of Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan, and Judge Arnette Hubbard
And they wonder what has happened to our MSM. Why haven’t they done their own investigating on the rumors? Do we have to ask:
When a rumor about a tape of Michelle Obama ranting and raving at Trinity first hit the blogs, we wondered if there was any truth to it. So, we just used Google to try as best we could to piece together her public schedule for the last few years, cross referencing that with the other clues that started coming out about what Michelle supposedly said, and who was with her when she said it. We just looked for times she was in Chicago before the national media would have been paying any attention to her (so, basically, everything prior to Barack Obama’s speech at the DNC Convention in 2004: logic dictates she would be less inclined to rant and rave in public after she and her husband had a national profile). The break came when it was noted on the blogs that Michelle made her remarks with Mrs. Farrakhan at a panel discussion at Trinity. Having that, another Google search turned up the Jet magazine article, a trip to the Library to check out the microfiche of that issue got the photo of Michelle and the other panelists (with all their names), a Google search of those names all together got the schedule of events for the 2004 Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference, and that schedule ultimately led to the rest.
When the MSM is in the tank for a candidate they don’t mess around. Once in the tank there is no going back and there is no way they will do anything to derail the chosen one now.
Just like The Burning Six episode, or the Bush National Guard letters, or any of the dozens of other stories broken by blogs, when they have no desire to show an opposing viewpoint, or they want to bring someone down while they prop someone up….cough Kerry cough…they will do what is necessary. If that includes ignoring potentially damaging material. Thats what they will do.
UPDATE
Looks like this is the event in question but I’m curious, like some of the commentors are, how no one noticed this video if it has been on sale at Trinity for awhile:
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition & Citizenship Education Fund Annual Conference
“2004: A YEAR OF CRITICAL CHOICES FOR INCLUSION AND GROWTH”
Schedule of Events*Saturday, June 26, 2004
12:00p.m ~ 2:00p.m.
SHERATON BALLROOM 1-7Womans Luncheon
M.C.’s: Cheryl Burton and Karen Jordan, ABC 7
Keynote Speaker: Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, Sr.
Special Guests:
Shoshana Johnson, Retired United States Military
Michelle Obama, University of Chicago
See author page
*yawn*
Larry Johnson is as full of shit on this as he has been on everything else he’s said.
Please keep me informed on the “Whitey” Tape. Also Obama association with Farrakan . Nation of Islam. Thank yoo. WP
The story they are now pushing doesn’t seem to make any sense. They are now saying she was a panelists, but was able to rant for 30 minutes. Ignoring that aspect the schedule of the Rainbow/Push Coalition event never has her as a speaker or a panelist, but only a special guest. In fact none of the three women discussed appear as speakers or panelists at the event.
Schedule Here: http://web.archive.org/web/20040811233750/corona.tpsgi.com/rpc/Conference_Schedule.htm
“M.C.’s: Cheryl Burton and Karen Jordan, ABC 7”
“Keynote Speaker: Reverend Jesse L. Jackson, Sr.”
Either you’re 5 years old and wearing a super hero cape or you should be able to figure out on your own that a panel MC’ed by a news reporter, a tape of which has been on sale for 4 years, contains something outrageous or it doesn’t.
ps. Is Karl Rove still indicted ?
That thick idiot had multiple independent sources for that single-source BS rumor too.
If it’s supposedly sold on Trinity’s website, wouldn’t multiple people have it? How can this NOT be out already if it’s available to the public?
So, I’m to believe that Michelle Obama went on a “whitey” rant at a conference attended by Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and Howard Dean during the heat of the 2004 presidential conference. It didn’t come up at all while Obama campaigned for Kerry in ’04? Not even during the convention?
As other commenters point out… the video then went for sale on the Trinity website… and was even posted on the web… but no one noticed other than the “mystery owner” of the tape?
I dunno… not too believable.
Does anyone remember the Paul McCartney is dead nonsense, with the clues in the songs, that hit everybody in 1969? I was in college and it seems like yesterday. Oh wait, that was the Obama tape. Oh well, six of one…
If it’s supposedly sold on Trinity’s website, wouldn’t multiple people have it? How can this NOT be out already if it’s available to the public?
I’m thinking about selling bogus copies on ebay!
The average White uninterested undecided voter does not have the slightest clue about the level of hatred that the black underclass has for them. IF this tape exists, it might not have much of an impact.
Consider the source. This has all the hallmarks of the famous ‘Clinton loses it during deposition’ non-scandal scandal.
Finding black supremacists running for president is fun (and SCARY too)but finding New World Order Illuminati puppet masters is more fun(and MORE SCARY). Requires higher IQ though.
you ahve to wonder if its a little to convenient. they get the conservatives all hot for the “tape”. and everyone speculates about what is on it, and what her menaing could be. the conservatives could be playing into their hands so to speak, could be their answer to operation chaos.
Read Obama’s books. You may then understand how this could be true. My problem with him from the beginning has been an seemingly underlying hatred of whites. His white mother more or less abandoned him, he refers in his book to his white grandparents that raised him, as those white folks. It has amazed me the support he has had from the white community, it is obvious none of them have read his books.
It is not hard to believe that the white hating Obamas went on such a rant. It fits right
in with the America hating liberal democrats.
I took these comments from the HillaryClintonsupportersforJohnMcCain website. Ed who handles the website received information on the “Whitey” tape recently. He heard 2 minutes of this DVD over the phone. The person told him that it would be released in November and not before.
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User Name Juju from California
Comments I will not vote for Obama under any circumstance. It doesn’t matter if Hillary is on the ticket. I’m voting for McCain.
Since Obama always says McCain-Bush, I think we should all refer to Obama as Obama/Wright/Pfleger/Rezko.
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Please allow me to explain why this person will not release the DVD before the date as they have stated. one example is Doug Wilder, former governor of Va or WV, I cannot remember, said on more than one occasion,”If Obama does not get the nomination, then all blacks will consider it stole from Obama, and the riots of 1968 will be nothing compared to those of 2008″.
More than just this leader has made those statements. The person that has the DVD is afraid to release it before the date they have set. They do not want to be the person that started the riots. This person feels that all the thugs are waiting on is a reason to start and destroy this country. The reason I was told and allowed to hear it, was because I could tell everyone it exist and that Obama will not be the president, that was the reason I was given. I understand this person position and I respect them. I cannot and will not violate their trust in me. Even if this mean Hillary is not our nominee, I cannot help it. Thanks for your time and understanding – Ed
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User Name NO Obama (FL)
Comments Ed, can you tell us more or less what was said?
Do you trust the person you heard it from and is there a way you can talk this person into releasing it or letting you record it?
And who is this person? Not a name if you can’t say but are they like a republican high offical or what? Thanks so much!
Yes, I trust this person very much. This person is not a “Republican”, in fact I don’t know what their political stand is. Also this is not a White person. I will not release this person name and prehaps I have said too much now. This person sent me a email asking me to call them. They said the reason they wanted me to know was that this web site has had almost a 1 million in less than a week. I was very surpirsed and honored that they choose me to talk to you. I will try and get them to release the DVD before the convention. I will use everything that God gave me to get this job done. I am a Texan and we don’t give up. ED
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User Name NO Obama
Comments Ed, have you actually heard the whitey tapes?
Yes, I heard about 2 minutes of her ranting at Bill Clinton and Hillary over the phone. Ed
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User Name Chris
Comments Are the “whitie” tapes video ?
Yes, it is a DVD, I only heard the audio part, they would not send me a sample. I understand that it is over 30 minutes long some of it had been edited. From what I was told, this will make every white American angry. What she thinks of the white America is disgusting. – Ed
WELL SEEMS PRETTY ODD THERES A PIC WTIH ALL THE SKANKS IN IT.. IS THIS A JOKE? THIS BOZO MORON MUSLIM IS A NATIONAL JOKE. GET THIS YO-YO AND HIS SKANK GHETTO WIFE OFF THE STAGE, WE ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THEIR ASSISINE STUNTS AND NOW THE CRY BABY HAS A WEBSITE TO DEFEND HIS OWN IDIOTCY… GODDAMN IM SO SICK OF THE OBAMAS….
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF OBAMA IS SOME KIND OF JOKE? IS HE IN THE FAIRYTALE, THIS PIGGY WENT TO THE MARKET AND WENT WAAA WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAA ALL THE WAY HOME? HE WHINES AND HE WHINES AND HE WHINES.. MY GOD, WOULD SOMEONE TELL HIM TO PULL UP HIS BIG BOY PANTS AND START ACTING LIKE AN ADULT ?? IM TELLING YOU, HE IS WORSE THEN BUSH COULD EVER DREAM ABOUT BEING.. HES A F-ING MORON.. THE WHINING IS UNREAL… I CAN NOT TAKE IT ANYMORE, PLEASE SOMEONE TELL THE MORON THE SIDESHOW IS OVER, GET TO WORK, DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF ITS WRONG.. DEBATE MCCAIN AND STOP WHINING, WE REALLY CANT WAIT TO SEE MCCAIN SLAM DUNK HIM.. THIS IS TOO FUNNY. THEN YOU GOT THIS SKANK ASS WIFE CRYING ABOUT WHITEYYYYYYYYYYYY……. IS THERE NOTHING THOSE TWO BOZOS DONT WHINE ABOUT?
I am a democrat but this year will NOT be voting for Obama. I just do not trust him, his politics or his character in any regard. Now more than ever as i watch him change positions on everything from guns, to the war in iraq to public fundraising, to wiretapping/spying….
I am interested in this michelle obama whitely tape? IS IT OUT THERE?
is it for real? when will it be released? i know i sound like a trader to my party, but i need to know this man will be brought down and have no chance of being elected…
Hi, I knew from the beginning that Obama and his wife both hated whites before hearing anything further. How could a man be half white and half black, and only think of himself as a black? Wake up America, don’t you see who you will be putting in the White House? Learn and eduate yourself more about this white hater before you just blindly vote for this man. Thank you!
Always nice to start the day with a hater and the morning coffee.
Thanks Sue!
I believe that the Michelle Obama tape exists and that both unidentified liberals and conservatives have seen and heard that tape. Conservatives will use it in September or October and the liberals are hoping that it will not diminish Obama’s poll numbers and that the conservatives are just sabre waving.
I believe that the tape exists because Michelle has been placed in time and location at the event that the ranting and raving has occured. Photos and schedule of speakers prove this point. The content of her college thesis adds to the belief that she could have said these remarks. The remarks occured prior to her husbands rise in the political arena. The remarks occured in a location that would have been most conducive to her ranting and raving. The lack of an adamant denial by her husband that these remarks had been said by her. The immediate appearance of a website by Barack Obama campaign to stop the smear of Michelle Obama. Evidently, a paltry attempt to diminish the effect of the eventual release of the tape. The limited exposure of Michelle in the media since the release of the tape rumor as opposed to her very apparent media exposure prior to the rumor. Why ?
The polls show Obama slightly ahead and it appears that some Republican analysts are not very concerned. Maybe they are fully aware of the “October suprise”.
Odds favor the existence of the tape. Time will tell all.
I’ve really looked into this, including archive URLs of Trinity using the “Wayback” engine. Interestingly, all the links for Trinity in this time period are dead, leading to the present-day welcome screen! By contrast, links to earlier dates such as 2001 open into the correct historical archive page.
OK, so it is plausible that Ms. Obama ripped into Pres. Clinton during this tirade…since he was a US President, the event must have been crawling with secret service agents!! Wouldn’t THEY have made a note of Ms. Obama if she was so strident in her criticism of Pres. Clinton? I have to wonder what the secret service memo file looks like for that event!!
Chuck,
I dug out some stuff from them a few months ago, and some of it was pretty interresting, but I dropped it because others were doing a much more thorough job than I was. One thing I noticed was that the URL’s weren’t consistent, like dates might appear one week as 07-06-03, and the next as July13-03. (That’s just an illustration, not an actual URL).
Basically, though, the Wayback machine is often useless, since anyone can ask them to suppress, or erase, the contents. I wish I was able to dig out all the garbage that used to be on EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM WEBSITE. If I could, it would clearly prove they were all in on it. I saw it, and was toying with the idea of documenting it. Then, after 9/11 nearly all of it was erased, including what was on the Wayback. – Talk about missed opportunities. (I wonder if anyone else has that?)
do you think that thers is more proof somewhere of the michelle obama whitey tape coming out after the convention—and now the dems are hoping to elect clinton as the nominee-because obama is about to be DEMOLISHED!!! i personally think there is some dirt truly lurking out there about obama and the dems know they have pushed and backed the wrong guy for their party. they want it to all look correct at the convention so there wont be race riots…but in all honeslty i think since many primaries occured before the rev wright disaster…there are superdelegates that would like to recast their vote-and they have the option at the convention.
I suspect it was part of Hillary’s campaign to say the Republicans had a tape. There was a lot of that going on with her campaign including saying Obama was a Muslim. Now you know where that rumor really came from. Lots of people claimed to have UFOs and various monsters, but it doesn’t make it true even though people still want to believe.
I think the Obamas are very self conscious and or self centered. They are slow to respond to issues, but quick to respond to attacks on them. I feel it took the Obama campaign to come up with a 1 minute speech about the Georgia-Russia issue than it took the campain to make a 40 page rebuttal on a book that is selling well but will probably not change that many votes (it’s preaching to the choir).
Let us not forget … that in addition to statements like ‘America is a mean country’ … and, ‘this is the first time in my adult life that I’m proud to be an American’ … Michelle Obama also made the decision to expose her children for years, to Jeremiah Wright, Pfleiger, Moss, Farrakhan, and the rest of the radical anti-American racists at the black liberation Trinity Church of Chicago. Is this who we want for America’s first lady … I don’t think so !!!
Yes, it exists, and the clock is ticking on its release.
SOON–BE PATIENT—CAN NOT SAY “WHEN”
Wow…I can’t believe you people are still waiting for the “tape”.
Tell ya what..I’ll sell you my bridge..in Brooklyn.
Selling a bridge you do not own—-how unique of a statement. I never heard that before. You are as original as Obama.
when is this tape being released/?? sooner than you think—IF——
…we know michelle obama is a closet racist, now the rest need to see it out full blown.
the repubs want her ranting and words still in everyones ears when people go to vote. i also heard the repubs are trying to win without having to use it…and if they are ahead they wont. But they have a 50,80, 100 theme about the electoral college/and releasing the tape. if they feel 100% safe- they dont need it. If they feel they are 80% safe they might…and if they only feel a 50/50 chance of defeating Obama, they are going to let it fly. they just realize we all have to live together when the elections are over-and considering whats on the tape–there might be alot of pain left behind from its fallout. however, rest assured it wil be out there soon-of needed.
I have heard these themes before when in the company of the nicest Black Liberals. They are angry and deserve to be angry, but instead of turning their anger on the ones who so damaged the black family and or the ones who hold them hostage in the liberal bubble; they blame jug-eared but harmless, Bush.
Michael Obama is a hardcore black liberal. There should be plenty of this material lying around.
you are right…there was probably TONS of this kind of material out there….and i do bet the repubs were smart enough to gather it up before the election started. well —be on the lookout-
i predict some interesting stuff on the obamas to be released this week…possibly even starting tomorrow, oct 27th….
finally a true vetting….and a true view of senator obama and the (gd forbid) first lady….UUGGH
Is that Larry Johnson guy from No Quarter to be believed? He says McCain has decided not to use the tape, the implication being that McCain is too honorable. What a shame if this is true!
it wont be mccain that releases it…he will not be the one…so he is still honorable. it is not mccain who found it to begin with…
release the tape immediately as we the people have a right to know everything there is to know before electing an unknown person of questionable character to the Highest Office in the Land. America is more in tuned this election than ever before. The media is in the tank for Obama and he, Obama refuses to answers questions about himself. Which is why it’s so important that we the people know who and what we are voting for.
So it’s election eve I guess you’ll be releasing the tape any minute now.
Bunch of dreamers
Looks like the tape is as nonexistent as McCains victory. Sorry charlie !
Can’t wait to hear Rush’s first show after the inaugration
America held hostage, day number 1 !!
who needs a whitey tape when obama sunk his own ship with the audio of him saying he will bankrupt the coal industry,-the man is on record talking about having middle class and working class people lose their means of support and he sounds COLD
even state officials call his comments unbelieveable and the head of coal association is aghast
get yout head out of dailykos and read about what is really moving the polls and voters to mccain. you obama is toast
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-coal-official-calls-obama-comments-unbelievable
READ obama just lost election because of this…will lose ohio and pennsylvania
Dear, dear Michelle
Just how many coal miners do you think there are in Pa. ? I do believe there are a majority of voters located in Pittsburgh and Philly who don’t mine coal.
there are coalminers in kentucky, PA, Ohio etc…PLENY of people who didnt take this comment well. and it is also the concept that he has shown his true side about how he feels about working class peoples livlihood…and energy issues in general. that is now why he is toast.
america does not ned a president obama. he will ruin our great country with his radical ideas—and associations
Dear Michelle,
PLENY does not make a MAJORITY !
Sorry sweety !
Where’s the tape, people?
No wait, where’s whitey? Not in the Oval Office anymore that’s for sure.
aaah, not so fast obamatrons..he hasnt been sworn in yet.
if he doesnt answer judge souter of the united states supreme court by dec 1 on the issue of his official certificate of live birth….he is toast!! no more stalling for your fraud!
supreme court justices dont take kindly to being ignored and bullied the way he weaved and legally dodged the lower court
dont say this issue has been asked and answered
FACTCHECK.ORG is an arm of obama…run by his associates and the annenberg group so their postings and SPIN/BullSh*t is worthless
the supreme court did not dismiss the case, hence they do believe there is something here to has out.
dec 1 is well before the electoral college meets…and if you dont know about the american system, obama is NOTHING until they meet and ratify our popular vote!!!
so dont count your racist roosters before they hatch…
Give it up ! What a pathetic thread.
.S. Supreme Court Update Regarding The December 01, 2008 Deadline
Thursday, 04 December 2008 01:46 Webmaster Main – News We understand everyone is eager to learn what occurred on December 1, 2008, at the U.S. Supreme Court. There is a rumor claiming Mr. Obama was Court Ordered by Justice Souter to turn over his birth certificate by December 1, 2008. This is NOT true.
When a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari is filed the Defendants automatically are given thirty (30) days to respond. They are not required to respond. The end of thirty (30) Days in the Berg v. Obama case was December 1, 2008. Keep in mind, the Defendants could have mailed in a response to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and the Court allows approximately a week for mail. If this is the case, the envelopes must be postmarked December 1, 2008.
In the afternoon, December 1, 2008, Lisa, Mr. Berg’s Assistant contacted the U.S. Supreme Court and spoke with the Clerk. The Clerk informed Lisa Mr. Berg’s Petition for Writ of Certiorari would be distributed to all nine (9) Justices and a conference should be set within ten (10) days. As I’m sure you are aware, during the conference the Justices will discuss Mr. Berg’s Petition for the Writ of Certiorari and decide whether or not to grant or deny the Petition. It only takes four (4) out of nine (9) Justices to agree to grant Mr. Berg’s Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Justices can also make other Orders during the Conference.
Mr. Berg’s Office also learned the Solicitor General is only representing the Federal Election Commission.
Additional documents will be filed within the next couple of days. All Legal briefs will be posted on our website, so please continue checking back for updates.
THE SUPREME COURT HAS A TIGER BY ITS TAIL, ‘AND THEY BETTER HAVE A PLAN
FOR DEALING WITH HIS TEETH.’
PHYLLIS KUNZ
i am sure the supreme court will step up to the plate….and uphold our constitution against this fraud and usurper. obama will never be pres for 4 years….he is ineligible to hold office–periodeven though the congress is now trying to pass a bill to change the law about how many terms a pres can serve.
outrageous that they are trying to have OBAMA FOR LIFE…read bout it on citizenwells.com
The racist roosters were counted. The numbers are the same. Nonexistent audio tapes and nonsensical supreme court challenges came to nothing. Barack Obama has won. He is the president. Want to be a patriot? Get in line behind your president. The false conservatism of the past eight years has been rejected.
The Audacity of Hope. Exit the dope.
http://madmonq.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/the-secret-obama-masonic-other-ball/
perhaps you are an aobamatron, or just ill informed. there are still cases pending in the supremem court. why dont you check the official supreme court docket for yourself. this is not mere heresay by bloggers. why dont YOU and the other OBOTS ask yourself why everyone…who has ever been asked to show a birth certificate for far less important jobs than POTUS has done so-whereas OBUMMER has spent close to 800,000 dollars to keep who he is and where he is from a dark deep secret. why does anyone have their birth certificate, selective service records and every piece of paper trail put on lcokdown so no one can see who and where this fraud came from. why are YOU so easily swayed to believe that someone who is willing to use his own money and taxpayer money (the court cases going thru the court system is costing YOU AND I MONEY)doesnt have something he is hiding. i am willing get behind ayone elected as POTUS…(i am a registered democrat) but i put country first-and THIS USURPER is hiding something. no one is going to thumb their nose at the constitution and not be challenged for that gross behavior. perhaps YOU should get more aquainted wuth the facts and merits of why obama is a fruad and the truth will come out. then we will see who was in the right on these message boards…for example….
This just announced—it was announced that plainsradio.com has a certified copy of an Immigratrion and Naturalization Service (INS) form, signed by Stanley Ann Dunham, showing that she and Obama entered the USA from Kenya on Aug 10, 1961 — proving his likely birth outside of the USA mainland.
Here is what Ed Hale gave as a reference for the document:
INS document # CD E509B TECX SQSQPQ
Per the discussion on the blog tonight, the Port of Entry where Stanley Ann Dunham came back into the U.S. six days after the of her child (BHO Jr.) is under this document, on or about August 10, 1961 (if Obama’s birth is August 4, 1961) and then the registry in Hawaii occurred on August 12, 1961 as shown on the Hawaii birth of records report.