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I saw a kinda similar story today about a soldier here in the states waiting for his 3rd tour in Iraq. He stopped at a gas & sip, bought a lotter ticket, and won a million dollars. Still plans to go to Iraq, and isn’t spending it until after he gets back. He talked about the commitment he made, and didn’t sound forced etc. It was a good piece. Wish I’d saved the link.
Good people doing great things.
Dan
16 years ago
He’s a cavalry officer.
Looks like he’s enjoying himself.
suek
16 years ago
Maybe there’s hope for GB after all…!
M. Murcek
16 years ago
Am I missing something or is that an American Flag on his ball cap in the first picture? If so, that’s great!
That picture of him with the flag on his cap is awesome. Good to know how the man really feels. The fact that he is over there fighting the good fight when we all know he didn’t have to says it all. Too bad they couldn’t just skip over Charles and put this guy in….he would do the country proud.
As for the media outing him, who’s surprised. They care little if it gets his ass killed, its all news to them.
joe from Chi
16 years ago
ya big whip. King (Mayor) Daley’s kid just went there. why don’t the aristocts send their kids to Iraq??
ChrisG
16 years ago
Joe,
Several have but never make the news.
Good for Prince Harry. All that and a CAV guy too!
Though the US CAV Stetson and the Aussie plume bush hats are cooler 😉
Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF
16 years ago
Unfortunately the jihadis in the UK will be gunning for him. I certainly hope any and all attempts fail and that if they try anything it becomes the final insult to the British people. They do love their royals.
wesmorgan1
16 years ago
Yeah, it’s a shame that (apparently) it was Drudge’s report on Harry’s service that “blew his cover.”
Actually Wesmorgan1 it was not Drudge, but an Aussie paper that “blew his cover”.
This was cited on the previous post concerning the prince.
As usual though, I lie circles the Earth three times before the truth gets its boots on.
wesmorgan1
16 years ago
Hmmm…I had read that Daily Independent’s piece (at )…yes, there was apparently an article in an Aussie women’s magazine, New Idea. However, the major media (and certainly the US media) didn’t pick up on it until Drudge reported.
So, while his may not have been the first, it seems to have been the more damagaing.
Regardless, it really stinks that the story was blown open to the public. There’s no way he can stay now; that area, and his unit, would become obvious targets.
“As for the media outing him, who’s surprised. They care little if it gets his ass killed, its all news to them.”
Actually, the UK media made (and honored) a pledge of silence on the matter. It was, if previous reports are accurate, an Aussie publication and the Drudge Report that “blew the story.”
In fact, Reuters reports the following:
‘An Australian Web site got wind of something in January, but not enough to make it stick.
German newspaper Bild ran a gossip item on Wednesday, but again the Ministry of Defence hoped the chatter would quickly die down. Until the U.S. Drudge Report blog picked it up.
“Once Drudge had it, it went global and the agreement was basically over,” the Ministry of Defence said on Friday.’
Yes it is tragic because by all accounts, the British Army has been good for Prince Harry’s growth and maturity. Leading a combat platoon does that.
It is bad that they will probably recall him as he is a huge target in Afghanistan, but I hope they will not. In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country. By that I mean in a warzone, it is pretty easy to see who should be where and doing what as compaired to an armored limo procession twisting through London streets.
Also by being deployed, he could return honor to the royal family of England which has been marred in scandal and soap opera twists for the last few decades. He even shows the responsibility demanded by his station in life.
I would say let him stay and lead his men, but my opinions count for jack with the UK MOD.
” In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country.” I would guess he is more of a target in England and the left will insure that he has no chance to defend himself in England. The absolute last thing the left wants in England is a Royal defending himself or England. The more ineffective a Royal is, the better the left looks.
That’s a good point pagar. And I imagine that every member of the Household Cavalry with which he serves feels exactly the same way.
These are the same troops that protect the Queen and two of their members were killed on that duty by IRA terrorists in an attack on the Household cavalry in 1982:
Seven incredible horses of the Household Cavalry were also killed or had to be destroyed in that attack.
I’d much rather see Harry and his unit in a tank with the ability to call in air strikes than on a horse in Hyde Park.
Alaska Paul
16 years ago
The ball cap Prince Harry is wearing is a 5.11 Tactical ball cap. I get a free one when I order enough stuff from LA Police Gear. Good on Prince Harry. He has more on ball, including character, than his worthless dad.
Philadelphia Steve
16 years ago
Re: “” In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country.” I would guess he is more of a target in England and the left will insure that he has no chance to defend himself in England. The absolute last thing the left wants in England is a Royal defending himself or England. The more ineffective a Royal is, the better the left looks.”
Let me see if I understand this correctly.
Matt Drudge, Right-wing blogger, is part of an American leftist conspiracy to “get” a member of the royal family by revealing his presence among the British troops in Afghanistan so that he will be sent back to the UK where he is an “easier” target.
Did I get that correctly?
And there is not one single Conservative here who disagrees with pagar’s assesment of the situation?
It was clear enough to me. I don’t know what your problem is…
On second thought, I DO know what your problem is.
Philadelphia Steve
16 years ago
What is obvious is that pagar actually believes in hist post (19) that American Leftists conspired with Matt Dridge to have a member of the British Royal Family sent back to the UK where they could “get” him.
And that you believe this to be true as well.
Your stalling on repeating it means that you are afraid to actually type those words, because they indicate how truly bound Conservatives are to outlandish conspiracy theories. Hiding behind personal insults of me is just another typical Conservative tactic that, among Conservatives, appears to be considered “wisdom”.
I stated, in shorter terms, exactly what pagar said. You lack sufficient courage to admit, and be accountable, that you agree with the post (19).
It’s not surprising to me that someone so clearly poisoned by his own bile would so wildly mischaracterize the comments of Pagar.
But then, to transfer your total lack of comprehension to ME is simply further confirmation of the underlying emotional/intellectual deficits you demonstrate daily.
ChrisG
16 years ago
I look at the Drudge Report often. A vast amount of his stories are just links to other news outlets, yet you call him a “Right-wing blogger”. The usefulness of the Drudgereport is that it links to almost every news outlet and many major blogs (both left and right) from around the world. Our S2 used to use it in accessing the North Korean State “news” for his “what the other side is thinking” briefs.
But since he is not Kos, Steve attacks him and while no one here is defending Drudge’s decision to link to the other news sources, since we are not calling for his head, we are all terrible conservatives who will always rally around whoever Steve in his delusional rants calls out.
As for the rest, I agree with Mike above.
pagar
16 years ago
Here is what my post #19 says:
“” In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country.” I would guess he is more of a target in England and the left will insure that he has no chance to defend himself in England. The absolute last thing the left wants in England is a Royal defending himself or England. The more ineffective a Royal is, the better the left looks.
How that was unclear to anyone is unclear to me. How Matt Drudge is supposedly added, when his name is not in my email is unclear to me?
‘”Matt Drudge, Right-wing blogger, is part of an American leftist conspiracy to “get” a member of the royal family by revealing his presence among the British troops in Afghanistan so that he will be sent back to the UK where he is an “easier” target.
“Did I get that correctly? ”
No, you did not. Not a single word of what you added is what I wrote.
pagar: Philly Steve has fallen into the trap that is so common among his ilk and invented his own reality to suit his prejudices. His case of delusion has clearly advanced to the point where his sanity is in question.
Philadelphia Steve
16 years ago
OK then.
Please tell me how my characterization of pagar’s post was incorrect and what he actually meant.
Do you think I have nothing better to do than teach reading comprehension to liberals whose mental facilities have been damaged by Bush Derangement Syndrome?
Go see a doctor!
Philadelphia Steve
16 years ago
Let’s try this again.
I stated that pagar [post 19] made the assertion that Drudge’s posting of information regarding Prince Harry’s presence in Afghanistan was a “Leftist” plot to have him returned to the UK where it was easier to “get” him.
Conservatives here excoriated me for that re-statement of pagar’s belief, along with evaluation of it’s credibility as being nil. Each Conservative, between invective, declared how wrongly I re-stated it.
So, being cooperative and open to correction, I have repeatedly asked what the “Conservatively Correct” interpretation was.
To this point, responses to my request have been coyly written comments about the obviousness of pagar’s post, along with a few token personal insults (which on this site are tolerated, if they are directed at Liberals).
If it is so evident, why is no Conservative here capable of taking fingers to keyboard and declaring what the “right” meaning is?
My conclusion: the Conservative psoters here know how inane pagar’s conspiracy story is. But, knowing that pagar is a fellow Conservative, they are perfectly willing to lend legitimacy to the statement, since it attacks “Leftists”, and truth or accuracy is of no import to a Conservative bent on promulgating more hated of us across the blogosphere. So Conservatives post insults, but insulate themselves from the accountability of actually saying they themselves believe this inanity.
It is both cheap and the kind of moral cowardice that William F. Buckley decried, but modenr Conservative embrace.
ChrisG
16 years ago
Steve,
Do you have quotas in your two minutes hate for how many times you can put “conservative” in a derogatory and negative way?
If we offend you so much, why not go to Salon, DU, Kos, and others?
Steve: I’m done pampering you on this topic. Pagar’s statement is clear enough to me and your twisted restatement is nothing more than a transparent attempt to raise phony issues.
I’ll delete the next comment you leave on this thread.
I completely understood the point Pagar made Steve.
You completely twisted it around to suit your prejudices.
You have wasted my time and that of every reader here who is less interested in your mental disorder than you are.
Philadelphia Steve
16 years ago
Re: “I completely understood the point Pagar made Steve.”
Then why can’t you restate it?
You will, of course block this message as well. go ahead. I know what I said was accurate. And I know that you are censoring me to prevent my accurate description fro being read, and that you will never make yourself accountable enough to admit that pagar’s fantasy makes no sense because he is a fellow Conservative.
I have my proof. You can prevent anyone else from seeing it, but that is your power, and I accuse you of abusing it.
Steve: You’re working my last good nerve. How many times have I told you that I thought Pagar’s statement was clear?
I don’t dance to your tune pal and I am not required to do or say anything at your direction.
You continue to display symptoms of a psychological disorder which requires medical attention and I would encourage you to get the mental help you clearly need.
Once again, you provide further documented proof of the emotional and intellectual disorders which prevent you or your fellow Bush Deranged libs from making any meaningful, positive contribution to the much needed political dialogue.
Good for Harry. Silver lining of having his deployment outed: I suspect he’ll get a chance to kill a few.
I saw a kinda similar story today about a soldier here in the states waiting for his 3rd tour in Iraq. He stopped at a gas & sip, bought a lotter ticket, and won a million dollars. Still plans to go to Iraq, and isn’t spending it until after he gets back. He talked about the commitment he made, and didn’t sound forced etc. It was a good piece. Wish I’d saved the link.
Good people doing great things.
He’s a cavalry officer.
Looks like he’s enjoying himself.
Maybe there’s hope for GB after all…!
Am I missing something or is that an American Flag on his ball cap in the first picture? If so, that’s great!
M.Murcek, the US flag is the reason I put that photo up front.
Scott is referring to this story:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/WaterCooler/story?id=4358724
That picture of him with the flag on his cap is awesome. Good to know how the man really feels. The fact that he is over there fighting the good fight when we all know he didn’t have to says it all. Too bad they couldn’t just skip over Charles and put this guy in….he would do the country proud.
As for the media outing him, who’s surprised. They care little if it gets his ass killed, its all news to them.
ya big whip. King (Mayor) Daley’s kid just went there. why don’t the aristocts send their kids to Iraq??
Joe,
Several have but never make the news.
Good for Prince Harry. All that and a CAV guy too!
Though the US CAV Stetson and the Aussie plume bush hats are cooler 😉
Unfortunately the jihadis in the UK will be gunning for him. I certainly hope any and all attempts fail and that if they try anything it becomes the final insult to the British people. They do love their royals.
Yeah, it’s a shame that (apparently) it was Drudge’s report on Harry’s service that “blew his cover.”
Actually Wesmorgan1 it was not Drudge, but an Aussie paper that “blew his cover”.
This was cited on the previous post concerning the prince.
As usual though, I lie circles the Earth three times before the truth gets its boots on.
Hmmm…I had read that Daily Independent’s piece (at )…yes, there was apparently an article in an Aussie women’s magazine, New Idea. However, the major media (and certainly the US media) didn’t pick up on it until Drudge reported.
So, while his may not have been the first, it seems to have been the more damagaing.
Regardless, it really stinks that the story was blown open to the public. There’s no way he can stay now; that area, and his unit, would become obvious targets.
hmmm…posting the comment removed the HTTP link.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/princes-cover-in-afghanistan-blown-by-drudge-report-789335.html
“As for the media outing him, who’s surprised. They care little if it gets his ass killed, its all news to them.”
Actually, the UK media made (and honored) a pledge of silence on the matter. It was, if previous reports are accurate, an Aussie publication and the Drudge Report that “blew the story.”
In fact, Reuters reports the following:
‘An Australian Web site got wind of something in January, but not enough to make it stick.
German newspaper Bild ran a gossip item on Wednesday, but again the Ministry of Defence hoped the chatter would quickly die down. Until the U.S. Drudge Report blog picked it up.
“Once Drudge had it, it went global and the agreement was basically over,” the Ministry of Defence said on Friday.’
Yes it is tragic because by all accounts, the British Army has been good for Prince Harry’s growth and maturity. Leading a combat platoon does that.
It is bad that they will probably recall him as he is a huge target in Afghanistan, but I hope they will not. In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country. By that I mean in a warzone, it is pretty easy to see who should be where and doing what as compaired to an armored limo procession twisting through London streets.
Also by being deployed, he could return honor to the royal family of England which has been marred in scandal and soap opera twists for the last few decades. He even shows the responsibility demanded by his station in life.
I would say let him stay and lead his men, but my opinions count for jack with the UK MOD.
Here is what I meant by him being safer in Afghanistan where he is armed and in command of his platoon with supporting and allied commands around him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=522552&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Now he will be a prisoner in his own country.
You guys are late to the party
” In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country.” I would guess he is more of a target in England and the left will insure that he has no chance to defend himself in England. The absolute last thing the left wants in England is a Royal defending himself or England. The more ineffective a Royal is, the better the left looks.
That’s a good point pagar. And I imagine that every member of the Household Cavalry with which he serves feels exactly the same way.
These are the same troops that protect the Queen and two of their members were killed on that duty by IRA terrorists in an attack on the Household cavalry in 1982:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/20/newsid_2515000/2515343.stm
Seven incredible horses of the Household Cavalry were also killed or had to be destroyed in that attack.
I’d much rather see Harry and his unit in a tank with the ability to call in air strikes than on a horse in Hyde Park.
The ball cap Prince Harry is wearing is a 5.11 Tactical ball cap. I get a free one when I order enough stuff from LA Police Gear. Good on Prince Harry. He has more on ball, including character, than his worthless dad.
Re: “” In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country.” I would guess he is more of a target in England and the left will insure that he has no chance to defend himself in England. The absolute last thing the left wants in England is a Royal defending himself or England. The more ineffective a Royal is, the better the left looks.”
Let me see if I understand this correctly.
Matt Drudge, Right-wing blogger, is part of an American leftist conspiracy to “get” a member of the royal family by revealing his presence among the British troops in Afghanistan so that he will be sent back to the UK where he is an “easier” target.
Did I get that correctly?
And there is not one single Conservative here who disagrees with pagar’s assesment of the situation?
No… As usual, you are just looking for an opportunity to pour out your bile in reaction to what was an original and well thought out comment.
Go take your medication and call your anger management counselor before commenting again.
Ok then. Exactly what was pagar saying?
I would have thought it was self evident.
Then you should have no problem re-stating it.
It was clear enough to me. I don’t know what your problem is…
On second thought, I DO know what your problem is.
What is obvious is that pagar actually believes in hist post (19) that American Leftists conspired with Matt Dridge to have a member of the British Royal Family sent back to the UK where they could “get” him.
And that you believe this to be true as well.
Your stalling on repeating it means that you are afraid to actually type those words, because they indicate how truly bound Conservatives are to outlandish conspiracy theories. Hiding behind personal insults of me is just another typical Conservative tactic that, among Conservatives, appears to be considered “wisdom”.
I stated, in shorter terms, exactly what pagar said. You lack sufficient courage to admit, and be accountable, that you agree with the post (19).
“And that you believe this to be true as well.”
It’s not surprising to me that someone so clearly poisoned by his own bile would so wildly mischaracterize the comments of Pagar.
But then, to transfer your total lack of comprehension to ME is simply further confirmation of the underlying emotional/intellectual deficits you demonstrate daily.
I look at the Drudge Report often. A vast amount of his stories are just links to other news outlets, yet you call him a “Right-wing blogger”. The usefulness of the Drudgereport is that it links to almost every news outlet and many major blogs (both left and right) from around the world. Our S2 used to use it in accessing the North Korean State “news” for his “what the other side is thinking” briefs.
But since he is not Kos, Steve attacks him and while no one here is defending Drudge’s decision to link to the other news sources, since we are not calling for his head, we are all terrible conservatives who will always rally around whoever Steve in his delusional rants calls out.
As for the rest, I agree with Mike above.
Here is what my post #19 says:
“” In Afghanistan, he has himself and his unit to protect him. In the UK, he is just as much of a target, but has less ability to defend himself from terrorists within the country.” I would guess he is more of a target in England and the left will insure that he has no chance to defend himself in England. The absolute last thing the left wants in England is a Royal defending himself or England. The more ineffective a Royal is, the better the left looks.
How that was unclear to anyone is unclear to me. How Matt Drudge is supposedly added, when his name is not in my email is unclear to me?
‘”Matt Drudge, Right-wing blogger, is part of an American leftist conspiracy to “get” a member of the royal family by revealing his presence among the British troops in Afghanistan so that he will be sent back to the UK where he is an “easier” target.
“Did I get that correctly? ”
No, you did not. Not a single word of what you added is what I wrote.
pagar: Philly Steve has fallen into the trap that is so common among his ilk and invented his own reality to suit his prejudices. His case of delusion has clearly advanced to the point where his sanity is in question.
OK then.
Please tell me how my characterization of pagar’s post was incorrect and what he actually meant.
If you can’t understand plain English there is no hope for you.
Once again, a dodge.
What exactly, for those of us not as enlightened as yourself, was pagar actually saying, in your own words?
Do you think I have nothing better to do than teach reading comprehension to liberals whose mental facilities have been damaged by Bush Derangement Syndrome?
Go see a doctor!
Let’s try this again.
I stated that pagar [post 19] made the assertion that Drudge’s posting of information regarding Prince Harry’s presence in Afghanistan was a “Leftist” plot to have him returned to the UK where it was easier to “get” him.
Conservatives here excoriated me for that re-statement of pagar’s belief, along with evaluation of it’s credibility as being nil. Each Conservative, between invective, declared how wrongly I re-stated it.
So, being cooperative and open to correction, I have repeatedly asked what the “Conservatively Correct” interpretation was.
To this point, responses to my request have been coyly written comments about the obviousness of pagar’s post, along with a few token personal insults (which on this site are tolerated, if they are directed at Liberals).
If it is so evident, why is no Conservative here capable of taking fingers to keyboard and declaring what the “right” meaning is?
My conclusion: the Conservative psoters here know how inane pagar’s conspiracy story is. But, knowing that pagar is a fellow Conservative, they are perfectly willing to lend legitimacy to the statement, since it attacks “Leftists”, and truth or accuracy is of no import to a Conservative bent on promulgating more hated of us across the blogosphere. So Conservatives post insults, but insulate themselves from the accountability of actually saying they themselves believe this inanity.
It is both cheap and the kind of moral cowardice that William F. Buckley decried, but modenr Conservative embrace.
Steve,
Do you have quotas in your two minutes hate for how many times you can put “conservative” in a derogatory and negative way?
If we offend you so much, why not go to Salon, DU, Kos, and others?
Steve: I’m done pampering you on this topic. Pagar’s statement is clear enough to me and your twisted restatement is nothing more than a transparent attempt to raise phony issues.
I’ll delete the next comment you leave on this thread.
D E L E T E D!
I completely understood the point Pagar made Steve.
You completely twisted it around to suit your prejudices.
You have wasted my time and that of every reader here who is less interested in your mental disorder than you are.
Re: “I completely understood the point Pagar made Steve.”
Then why can’t you restate it?
You will, of course block this message as well. go ahead. I know what I said was accurate. And I know that you are censoring me to prevent my accurate description fro being read, and that you will never make yourself accountable enough to admit that pagar’s fantasy makes no sense because he is a fellow Conservative.
I have my proof. You can prevent anyone else from seeing it, but that is your power, and I accuse you of abusing it.
Steve: You’re working my last good nerve. How many times have I told you that I thought Pagar’s statement was clear?
I don’t dance to your tune pal and I am not required to do or say anything at your direction.
You continue to display symptoms of a psychological disorder which requires medical attention and I would encourage you to get the mental help you clearly need.
Once again, you provide further documented proof of the emotional and intellectual disorders which prevent you or your fellow Bush Deranged libs from making any meaningful, positive contribution to the much needed political dialogue.