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This crap is typical of a liberal…Huckabee is finished…Fred is going to take SC and FL.
Rudy is finished. It is essentially a 3-man race:
Mitt, John Fred.
ChrisG
16 years ago
Mike,
I got a few of these calls here in Michigan. Very directed push questions and shilling for Huck. I kept answering that I would not vote for Huck in the Primaries until the call ended.
I wish the Primaries were all held in one day. Just get it over with so we can move forward. It would cost a whole lot less money in the long run.
On the other hand, at least in Michigan, the Republican votes will count, unlike the Democrats. There is real disenfrachisement. Yet will the Democratic voters hold their party responisble? I doubt it highly.
bbartlog
16 years ago
Rudy is finished. It is essentially a 3-man race:
Mitt, John Fred.
Rudy definitely looks to be on life support after his 3% finish in MI, but scoring Fred’s chances as better than Huck’s sounds like wishful thinking to me. Fred might be able to catch Huck in SC, but Huck’s national polling is currently a lot better.
Chris: It would be a HUGE mistake to have all the primaries on the same day.
If that were the case then the candidates would simply tailor their message to the larger states and ignore flyover country altogether.
Put aside Texas for a minute, do you really want the race decided on what California and New York state have decided?
bbartlog
16 years ago
Having some small primaries up front has some advantages. It does give the voters in those states a disproportionate impact, but it levels the playing field in terms of money somewhat. If you had a single nationwide primary, you would need to be either a celebrity or someone with $50 or better $100 million to bring to the game if you wanted to run.
Also, so long as the early state voters are mindful of their disproportionate influence, we can assume that they will spend more time evaluating the candidates than an average voter would under a single national primary system. Presumably this makes for better choices.
ChrisG
16 years ago
Point taken. I blame the ear infection I have for lack of enthusiasm on the primaries. I see the reasoning and understand now. Thanks Mike and bbartlog.
Of course, what do I care about being sick. According to our paranoid, spamming troll, we have paid WhiteHouse staffers to do our research for us and do not have to do any work ourselves…… Wow, hearing that was a shock! Curt, why didn’t you tell me? I spend all this time hunting down and collecting information from multiple sources by myself when I could have a staffer do it!
Chris: So that idiot Philly Steve things “we have paid WhiteHouse staffers to do our research”???
That’s just a variation on the moonbat claim that the PRO VICTORY forces are paid and trained by Halliburton and Blackwater (you might have seen my post honoring Skye at Midnight Blue where that was asserted by the “peace” crowd, many of whom ARE being funded or subsidized by George Soros).
Now, to the other point… I just had a somewhat testy exchange with a paid Rudy staffer over the role of the smaller states. I am all in favor of dumping the sole focus on Iowa and New Hampshire. But if Rudy does pull off what now looks like a miracle in Florida and Super Tuesday, I would hate the consequence to be a focus on the big states.
To elaborate that point further: the Electoral College exists for the sole reason to prevent big states from using the power of their majority population to decide the chief executive.
P.S. Try Echinaecea tea laced with zinc and fresh lemon every two hours for your ear infection. I think Sleepy Time has a brand loaded with the proper balance of botanicals and zinc.
suek
16 years ago
Or a New England cold cure…
Juice of 2 lemons
2 oz (1/4 C) honey
2 oz rum
Mix all in a 16 oz glass, and fill to top with water as hot as you can stand to drink. Mix well and drink while still hot.
Go directly to bed.
I’ve never decided if this really is a cold cure or just makes you not care if you have cold. In any case, in New England, the Vitamin C of the lemons might have been a good thing in those old “traditional” days, and believe me, they warm you up for the night! My husband used to swear by them – and it turned him into a veritable radiator!
They don’t taste especially good(imo) so there _must_ be some other reason they drank them…!
Thanks, I think that was also the Michigan Cure as my father used to use the same thing. My mother’s “Ohio Cure” used tea instead of water. Or was that my father’s too? After the second dose of it, I don’t care 😉
Mike,
Thanks also, unfortunately, this is a bacterial infection… probably from reading the multiple Steve paranoid delusional projectionist spam posts.
The lemon is supposed to be a natural anti-bacterial as well as providing vitamin C.
Honey is also good for coughs.
Denise
16 years ago
We had the same in Iowa. They asked who you were supporting in the caucus and if you answered, they went on to trash that person and suggest Huckabee’s position.
Gregory Dittman
16 years ago
For fun there is a presidential calculator. My highest score was Mike Gravel (on 19 states) at 14.44%. The highest known candidate was Giuliani at 11.65%. The highest known Democrat was Clinton at 4.27%. The one I plan to vote for is at 2.28% and the least rated was McCain at .37%. http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
Philadelphia Steve
16 years ago
The calls described in the oponing monologue are usually called “push polling”. They ask a cople of questions to classify you, then go on to test your preference. If you say that you like “candidate X”, then they go on to ask, “would you still like candidate X if you knew (s)he drowned puppies for a hobby?”
Or something along that line.
I recall that they were used against John McCain in the 2000 Carolina primaries, usually implying he had illigitimate (non-white) children either in the US or when he was a POW in Vietnam.
This crap is typical of a liberal…Huckabee is finished…Fred is going to take SC and FL.
Rudy is finished. It is essentially a 3-man race:
Mitt, John Fred.
Mike,
I got a few of these calls here in Michigan. Very directed push questions and shilling for Huck. I kept answering that I would not vote for Huck in the Primaries until the call ended.
I wish the Primaries were all held in one day. Just get it over with so we can move forward. It would cost a whole lot less money in the long run.
On the other hand, at least in Michigan, the Republican votes will count, unlike the Democrats. There is real disenfrachisement. Yet will the Democratic voters hold their party responisble? I doubt it highly.
Rudy is finished. It is essentially a 3-man race:
Mitt, John Fred.
Rudy definitely looks to be on life support after his 3% finish in MI, but scoring Fred’s chances as better than Huck’s sounds like wishful thinking to me. Fred might be able to catch Huck in SC, but Huck’s national polling is currently a lot better.
Chris: It would be a HUGE mistake to have all the primaries on the same day.
If that were the case then the candidates would simply tailor their message to the larger states and ignore flyover country altogether.
Put aside Texas for a minute, do you really want the race decided on what California and New York state have decided?
Having some small primaries up front has some advantages. It does give the voters in those states a disproportionate impact, but it levels the playing field in terms of money somewhat. If you had a single nationwide primary, you would need to be either a celebrity or someone with $50 or better $100 million to bring to the game if you wanted to run.
Also, so long as the early state voters are mindful of their disproportionate influence, we can assume that they will spend more time evaluating the candidates than an average voter would under a single national primary system. Presumably this makes for better choices.
Point taken. I blame the ear infection I have for lack of enthusiasm on the primaries. I see the reasoning and understand now. Thanks Mike and bbartlog.
Of course, what do I care about being sick. According to our paranoid, spamming troll, we have paid WhiteHouse staffers to do our research for us and do not have to do any work ourselves…… Wow, hearing that was a shock! Curt, why didn’t you tell me? I spend all this time hunting down and collecting information from multiple sources by myself when I could have a staffer do it!
Chris: So that idiot Philly Steve things “we have paid WhiteHouse staffers to do our research”???
That’s just a variation on the moonbat claim that the PRO VICTORY forces are paid and trained by Halliburton and Blackwater (you might have seen my post honoring Skye at Midnight Blue where that was asserted by the “peace” crowd, many of whom ARE being funded or subsidized by George Soros).
Now, to the other point… I just had a somewhat testy exchange with a paid Rudy staffer over the role of the smaller states. I am all in favor of dumping the sole focus on Iowa and New Hampshire. But if Rudy does pull off what now looks like a miracle in Florida and Super Tuesday, I would hate the consequence to be a focus on the big states.
To elaborate that point further: the Electoral College exists for the sole reason to prevent big states from using the power of their majority population to decide the chief executive.
P.S. Try Echinaecea tea laced with zinc and fresh lemon every two hours for your ear infection. I think Sleepy Time has a brand loaded with the proper balance of botanicals and zinc.
Or a New England cold cure…
Juice of 2 lemons
2 oz (1/4 C) honey
2 oz rum
Mix all in a 16 oz glass, and fill to top with water as hot as you can stand to drink. Mix well and drink while still hot.
Go directly to bed.
I’ve never decided if this really is a cold cure or just makes you not care if you have cold. In any case, in New England, the Vitamin C of the lemons might have been a good thing in those old “traditional” days, and believe me, they warm you up for the night! My husband used to swear by them – and it turned him into a veritable radiator!
They don’t taste especially good(imo) so there _must_ be some other reason they drank them…!
Suek,
Thanks, I think that was also the Michigan Cure as my father used to use the same thing. My mother’s “Ohio Cure” used tea instead of water. Or was that my father’s too? After the second dose of it, I don’t care 😉
Mike,
Thanks also, unfortunately, this is a bacterial infection… probably from reading the multiple Steve paranoid delusional projectionist spam posts.
I might have to try that Suek.
The lemon is supposed to be a natural anti-bacterial as well as providing vitamin C.
Honey is also good for coughs.
We had the same in Iowa. They asked who you were supporting in the caucus and if you answered, they went on to trash that person and suggest Huckabee’s position.
For fun there is a presidential calculator. My highest score was Mike Gravel (on 19 states) at 14.44%. The highest known candidate was Giuliani at 11.65%. The highest known Democrat was Clinton at 4.27%. The one I plan to vote for is at 2.28% and the least rated was McCain at .37%.
http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html
The calls described in the oponing monologue are usually called “push polling”. They ask a cople of questions to classify you, then go on to test your preference. If you say that you like “candidate X”, then they go on to ask, “would you still like candidate X if you knew (s)he drowned puppies for a hobby?”
Or something along that line.
I recall that they were used against John McCain in the 2000 Carolina primaries, usually implying he had illigitimate (non-white) children either in the US or when he was a POW in Vietnam.
Greg: I got the same score for
Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Mittens Romney and Fred Thompson:
A 95.65% match for each.