Someone show me where exactly this radioshow host spoke a lie: (h/t Stop The ACLU)
The Cincinnati office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ Ohio chapter Tuesday called for WLW-AM to reprimand talk show host Bill Cunningham for anti-Islamic remarks he made on the air Monday.
“The great war of this generation’s time is the war against Islamic fascists,” Cunningham said. “…They do not live for life, they live for death. Only through death can they believe they can be with those 72 virgins in heaven and have sex with children for eternity, which is the goal of that religion.”
Such remarks “can only serve to promote the kind of anti-Muslim hatred and bigotry that have such a negative impact on our society and on our nation’s international image,” said Karen Dabdoub, executive director of the Cincinnati office of CAIR.
Contacted Tuesday, Cunningham said: “One of the tenets of Islam is that if you die a martyr, you get to spend eternity in heaven with 72 virgins. I said, ‘That’s pretty sick. If that’s the goal, I don’t want to be there. That’s not my concept of heaven.’ ”
The fanatics inside radical Islam do indeed believe in the things Cunningham stated. They think nothing about blowing up innocent men, women and children to attain their goal of meeting 72 virgins in heaven. It’s a sick, twisted, mindset and one which should be exposed constantly on radio and television alike.
But those who back terrorists, like CAIR, are always there to ensure that your not allowed to speak such truths. Islamic men act like terrorists on a airplane, as the six Imams in Minnesota did, and your sued if you let someone know that they are acting strangely. You tell a radio audience that those who believe its all right to kill innocent people to get to their 72 virgins are some sick people, and your employer is harped on to reprimand you.
CAIR – A organization that terrorists love.
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But he also said….
“and have SEX WITH CHILDREN for eternity, which is the goal of that religion.â€Â
Where in the Koran does it state that?
If it doesn’t say that then I can see why Muslims would be upset.
Random Unicorn
Random: How old was the Prophet Mohammed’s wife Ayessha when he married her?
Hint…. her age was in single digits.
Virgins = Children
Mohamad having a preteen wife does not mean the goals of the religion are to have underage sex.
If you use that logic then the goals of Christianity are obviously to have Drunken incest with ones daughters (Noah) and the encouragement to have institutional slavery,as well as many other acts that we find repugnant.
I am sure some individuals within the muslim religion support sex with childeren, as do some within the christian community, however that does not mean “SEX WITH CHILDREN for eternity, which is the goal of that religion.â€Â
Random
Maybe you have not embraced Sun Tzu and studied those who are a threat to you as Islam clearly is. Here I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. If not, please read any of the works by Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, Walid Shoebat, and Serge Trifkovic.
Islam is more than the Koran. There is also the Sunnah (the “Way” of the Prophet Muhammad), the Sira (“life” of the Prophet), Haddith (“reports” about Muhammad’s life as relayed by Imams). Out of this comes Sharia law and the rules of Islamic governance.
It is within all of these that Islam’s true nature takes form. It is here that we learn “Peace†means “full submission/surrenderâ€Â. So when Bin Laden and Iran’s mad mullahs call for the West to “make peace†with Islam, understand that they, and EVERY Islamic leader before them mean the West must surrender. This has not changed since Islam’s first military expansion into Africa, Asia, and Europe in 622AD.
To answer Mike. According to Haddith Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88; Narrated Ursa: “The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).”
This Haddith has been used, as recently as last month, to enslave and forcibly marry young Christian girls to Islamic men.
The verse Random is asking for is Sura 56 which speaks of “immortal youths†awaiting jihadists (Allah’s favored-Sura 9.111). “Youth†can mean boy or girl, but it is usually translated in its masculine form here. Also the fact the Koran goes on to specifically mention young women after words indicated the “youths†are very young males by most interpretations. The reference in the Sura to “Reward for what they used to do†indicates the “youths†are being punished for homosexuality. Yes, homosexuality is punishable by death in Islam, but ok in “paradiseâ€Â. One of the THOUSANDS of inconsistencies in Islam, but covered by the principle of abrogation (Sura 2:106).
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/56/index.htm
Virgin does not mean child. It means a person who has not had sexual intercourse (In most definitions). Check any number of dictionaries or if you wish I will post them here.
Please provide a reputable source that shows that the muslim definition of the word virgin = exclusivly childeren.
Random Unicorn
Maybe you have not embraced Sun Tzu
Being dead for over 2000 years does tend to make one a bit on the funky side.
Thank you very much for the quote. That is what I was looking for. I think you MAY be taking it out of context/ putting overt emphasis on that line, but maybe not.
I have seen Chritians bashed with single quotes taken out of context or using what is obviously text was intended for an earlier society where marriage at the age of 13 and slavery were the norm. For the same reason I am suspicious of such quotes attributed to any religion.
Once again thanks for your source and reasoned response.
Random Unicorn
Where Christian tradition and practices ended slavery in the West, Islam encourages it. Noah is Old Testament. No mainstream Christian sect support using the Old Testament over the New Testament.
I do not even GO to church and I know this from research. St. Isidore of Seville stated “God has made no difference between the soul of the slave and that of the freedman”. Here he referenced St Paul.
In 649 King Clovis II of the Franks married a slave, who then campaigned to halt slave trafficking. The Catholic Church honors her as Saint Bathilda. Yes, in the Slave states of the American South, some tried to use scripture history to keep the slaves 9citing that other cultures did it), the abolitionist movement, also Christians, moved to free slaves based on Christ’s teachings of brotherhood and redemption. Prominent abolitionists like William Lloyd Garrision at a speech in Charleston S.C. remarked, “Abolitionism, what is it? Liberty. What is Liberty? Abolitionism. What are they both? Politically, one is the Declaration of Independence; religiously, the other is the Golden Rule of our Saviour.”
Now take Islam. There is no “Golden Rule” in Islam. Muhammad owned slaves, the Koran condones slavery, the hadiths etc condone slavery, and thus, Sharia law condones slavery (see above post). Since Muhammad is the “super-man”, a person to be emulated at all times, it DOES have a bearing on current culture.
Let me say that again: Since Muhammad is the “super-man”, a person to be emulated at all times, it DOES have a bearing on current culture. This is taught throughout Islam.
That point must be raised over and over. At no point does Jesus, who Christians are supposed to attempt to be like, EVER do what Muhammad does. Nor are Christians supposed to be able to be perfect, for Christ was God incarnate.
In Islamic nations, slavery is not only condoned, but STILL PRACTICED. Slavery is practiced against Christians and pagans in Africa by Islamic people. Giving up people as slaves has been and STILL IS part of “Jizya” (tax by Islam upon dhimmis- non-Muslims living in Islamic lands). Research Thomas Pellow, an Englishman captured by Islamic forces in 1716 and forced by torture to convert.
Widespread Islamic slavery was not stopped by abolitionist movements in Islam, but by British military power in the late 1800s. However, many Islamic nations only “officially” ended slavery recently: Saudi Arabia-1962; Yemen/Oman-1970; Niger-2004 (ban is widely ignored). Sudan, as stated and Mauritania still allow slavery using non-Muslims.
Then we have the trial of Homaidan al_Turki, sentenced 2006, in Colorado for slavery. He claimed he was a ‘victim’ of anti-Muslim bias by stating, “You Honor, I am not here to apologize, for I cannot apologize for things I did not do and for crimes I did not commit. The state has criminalized these basic Muslim behaviors. Attacking traditional Muslim behaviors was the focal point of the prosecution.”
He was not stating that he did not keep slaves, he was stating that keeping slaves was NOT a “crime” to “Basic Muslim behaviors”.
So to state, AGAIN, Islam is unchanging. It is frozen in Muhammad’s time. This is by their own laws and interpretations by “mujtahdin”(Islamic Scholars: No new ones recognized since 855 AD). It has 1400 years of Islamic Jurisprudence to back that up. The only “hyjackers” of Islam are the moderates who just want to live in peace and watch Western TV. Here, and in almost EVERY other point, Islam differs from EVERY OTHER religion.
Random,
That is why I included the entire Sura in the link (it would only copy-paste with each line annotated).
If you google the sura, there are several Islamic sites that try to abridge the sura since it makes them look bad. That too is allowed when dealing with kuffer (infidels/unbelievers) by Sharia. You need to get an un-abridged Koran to see what is really said.
The hadiths are 800 pages and I have only read some…. It is like reading a novel by the “Son of Sam”.
r4d20,
Let’s not discriminate against the post-living here…. 🙂
Terrorists – A organization that CAIR loves.
Because of terrorists organizations like CAIR I will not associate with anyone that embraces the brutal ideas that make Hitler look sane. I will not shop at any business owned by an Islamic terrorist (all of Islam) nor a business that employs one, and have taught my children to totally mistrust anything Islamic and to do the same with their children. Notice I don’t hate anyone, that’s left up to the followers of the child molesting leaders of Islam who preach death to everyone.
Considering CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator with the violent Muslim Brotherhood, on trial in Texas, I can see why you are cautious.
After fighting these Islamic thugs for years, I also agree fully with you. The only ones spreading hate and calls for genocide are the Islamics and their Imams. Slowly, almost deathly slow, the West is waking up. Looking back at the first and second Islamic expansions, which eventually sparked the Crusades after much of Europe was conquered, I wonder how much the West will allow to fall before reacting this time?
I am from the Nasty Naty and i can tell you Bill Cunningham is pretty much worshiped by the majority of southern ohio and Cair is pretty much not. While the black organizations can be heavily influential, based primarily on reinforcing the perception of racial bias within the sherrif and police departments of hamilton county and CINCY respectively, Muslim groups lack the victim status necessary for the sacred right to make whitey KOWTOW expand to include them… and also because most southern ohioans have never met a muslim and most likely resent strangers that want HOT DOGS to be banned from HOT DOG eating contests and fermented wheat to be banned from Bud lights yet also want Bill Cunningham banned from the Bill Cunningham show…and probably want ham banned from his cunning
Note this is a joke…it isnt a literal description of how i view Muslims in general…since i have never seen one…i hope the firsts a sane one…that even tends to sin some
Random U,
About children.
Here’s the Khomeini’s take (he is a supreme spiritual leader of Iran after all):
“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.”
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445
Feel nauseated every time i read it.
Uggghhh… Khomeini…. Like I said, reading this stuff is like looking into the mind of a sadistically insane cult leader.
Khomeini wrote whole treatises on this stuff, including marraige, sex with animals, treatment of the Koran (wonder if they follow these rules when they print the thing?), and war with the infidels (This was written before the US sent support via the Camp David Accords to Israel). Each one of his writings is more twisted and disgusting than the last.
And for Shia Muslims, Khomeini’s words and writings must be followed, or they are aposates.