The Ron Paul Circus

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I was trying to decide what Ron Paul and his minions remind me of and it just suddenly hit me.  The militant anti-government types.  The Randy Weavers, McVeigh’s, and others who would just as much like to hide in the hills waiting for the anarchy to hit and the return to "true government".

They are so far right they have almost come full circle and now support lefties ideals such as the Truther madness: (h/t Michelle Malkin)

Transcript via Michelle again:

Student: …we’ve heard that you have questioned the government’s official account.

Paul: Well, I never automatically trust anything the government does when they do an investigation because too often I think there’s an area that the government covered up, whether it’s the Kennedy assassination or whatever.

[…]Student: So I just wanted to say, you know, we’ve talked to Dennis Kucinich and he says that he’s willing to, you know, investigate it. He would advocate for a new investigation.

Paul: Into 9/11?

Student: Yeah, into 9/11. I mean, if it was Dennis Kucinich and you, there’d be congressional support. You know what I mean? So you wouldn’t be the only one.

Paul: It’d be bipartisan, too. And I’ve worked with Dennis a lot on a lot of these issues.

Student: So I mean, would you advocate for a new investigation into 9/11?

Paul: Yes, I think we have to look at the details of it.

And then the coup de grace, the endorsement of the Truther movement for Ron Paul:

Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul: Pandering to the Crowd? Or Potential 9/11 Truth Candidates?
By Justin A. Martell and Natalya Waye
March 9th, 2007

If you Google Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth, you will no doubt stumble across many forum topics and website posts regarding their recent videos that feature 2008 Presidential Candidates Rep. Ron Paul (R – Texas) and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D – Ohio) advocating for a new investigation into 9/11.

In response to these videos, many self proclaimed members of the 9/11 Truth Movement have said that these men are doing nothing but “pandering to the crowd” and “won’t do anything about it.” This is very disheartening, considering that these men are the only mainstream hope for 9/11 Truth. Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and Dodd have all expressed their disinterest in discussing 9/11. The fact that these men will go on the record discussing these issues with members of the truth movement should be incredibly inspiring to these arm chair critics who troll the loose change and 911 Blogger forums.

The very utterance of a call for a new investigation puts these candidate’s reputation and credibility on the line as they risk getting ripped to shreds by the abysmally ignorant opposition or the complicit media. Therefore, this negative backlash against these men is completely inappropriate and derogating. Any sensible “Truther” knows that these candidates can’t go on the television or radio and announce “9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB,” whether they believe it was or not.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich made it very clear in his second video with Student Scholars that he would like to come forward with a few undeniable facts about 9/11 and from there, widen the discussion in order to, in the words of Hillary Clinton, “Let the conversation begin!” In a candid conversation with the Student Scholars that took place off camera, he explained the various aspects of 9/11 that he’s already had his office looking into for quite some time. These are not the actions of a person who is not serious about this topic.

In regards to Rep. Ron Paul, he states twice in the Student Scholars video that he believes that the first 9/11 investigation was one in which there many “cover-ups.” Paul also claimed he “never automatically believes anything the government does when they do an investigation.” Additionally, he has been on the Alex Jones show several times. Ron Paul knows very well that something is very wrong with the official explanation of 9/1l. However, like Dennis Kucinich he cannot look right into our cameras and proclaim “9/11 WAS A SELF INFLICTED WOUND!” Through acknowledging the legitimacy of the 9/11 Truth Movement’s concerns, these candidates are expressing their support for our cause. This is much more than the more mainstream candidates will do. WOAH! Just got a flashback of a “Truther” being escorted out of a Hillary Clinton event by the Secret Service for quietly holding a 9/11 Truth banner.

These two men are our only hope. Think about it folks. THINK.

His minions are no better.  Check the comments out on my other Ron Paul posts and read the lunacy.  They organize their spam in waves, they spam polls, they basically use the tactics of the left to get their message out.

Like I said, they are so far right they’ve come full circle into crazyland.

UPDATE

Weasel Zippers found this, and it’s hilarious.  MSNBC has a list up that ranks the Republican nominee’s.   Ron Paul is last of course but check out what they write:

12.      Ron Paul
Texas congressman   Last Ranking: 9
Just please stop e-mailing us. Thanks.

Yup, his minions just don’t know when to stop.

UPDATE II

Check out this interview on the Alex Jones Show (a Weaver type Holocaust denier, which should be proof in itself that Ron Paul is a loon…going on a show with Alex Jones says it all) where Ron Paul states things will be better since the Democrats will be in office:

"CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?

HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. It will be a little bit better now with the Democrats now in charge of oversight. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.

JACK BLOOD, GUEST HOST: I think it’s fair to say that of all the candidates out there, the one most interested in reopening the investigation and clearing the questions is Dr. Paul; and you should be commended for that.

Yup….a great Presidential candidate.

And to those Ron Paul minions who leave whiny comments like "you just don’t know Ron Paul" or "do some research, he is not a truther" all I have to say is that he associates with the truther scum, answers questions from these same types with responses that makes it seem like he agrees with them.  For example, his continuing insistence that there was some big coverup with 9/11.   He is a pure Randy Weaver, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski type who wants to believe the big bad Government is responsible for everything.  Stop deluding yourselves.

Do I want less government?  Sure.  But I also want a strong government who will act to protect this country by doing the right thing, such as invading Iraq after 9/11.  Government screwed up big time for decades prior to Bush coming into office which allowed 9/11 to happen, and the reason they screwed up is because we were too isolationist.  To much into the law enforcement mindset. 

Things have changed and we are now winning this fight against terror.

If Ron Paul were to ever get into office (I know…stop laughing) it would be just as scary as if Hillary got into office.

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So, the FOX News minions always trust the government, huh? They believed everything that came out of the 8 years of the Clinton administration?

And, I guess the government never lies and covers up. The government told the truth all the way through the Vietnam conflict.

Perhaps if congress and the press had taken a little time to investigate Bush’s claims of WMDs and Saddam’s links to Al Quaida, we’d not even be discussing Ron Paul today.

I love you people who try to write him off as a loony. I’m guessing our growing numbers and support is scaring all the weak people who just obey party identity instead of actual issues. Ron Paul is a real American hero and I am registering Republican merely to vote for him. I hate Democrats that much, especially Hitlerly Clinton.

Ron Paul ’08!!!

Ron Paul is NOT a truther. That is a 100% misrepresentation started by Michelle Malkin and John Gibson.

You see what I mean? Post is up for one hour and they come out of the woodwork like termites.

Do they honestly think this will get him elected the next President? Probably, they are delusional…

Ron Paul supports are coming of the woodwork to vote on on-line polls and soon they will be coming out to vote in the real polls.

The Ron Paul campaign is about to go “viral”.

Curt – With all due respect, the Ron Paul phenomenon would never be as big as it is were it not for all the attention whore blogging idiots on the right promoting this loon. STOP IT! The same goes with Rosie O’Donnell. Ron Paul and Rosie are popular only because Conservatives keep giving them free publicity!

I’m sorry, this is just aggravating. Instead of whining about he and his supporters, how about actually IGNORING the idiot and staying on actual topics of substance.

Ron Paul should be given as much attention as me running for President… which is, NONE.

Stop giving him publicity and he will go away. Seriously, it is really disheartening to see you, Hot Air, Michelle Malkin and Charles Johnson post blog after blog after blog on this guy. You are all his best promoters.

I am beginning to realize that the blogosphere is becoming just as sensationalized and tabloid as the media. And it is very disheartening and discouraging.

Please, I started reading Flopping Aces for the great Global Warming and Saddam/Al Qaeda-link posts. Please don’t turn your blog into some tabloid crap like Hot Air and others are turning into. We are in for some very serious times ahead in our nation and in Western civilization. Wasting time on lunatics like Ron Paul just for the sake of being sensational and tabloid really discourages me in thinking that Americans are serious about our future.

I am only so critical, because I think so highly of this site. Please stop the nonsense this with guy and stick to your usual good reporting on serious issues.

Another technorati user here.

Ron Paul believes coverups happen by officials to hide negligence and incompetence, not “bombs in towers” or “inside jobs.” Officials will work to hide their own involvement (or lack thereof) in disasters.

Curt, if continue to repeat the whole “Paul is a Truther” line after having heard the truth, you’d be the one that lacks honesty — not Paul. I hope you don’t go the scumbag route and continue to echo lies.

Curt,

pls. investigate the truth for yourself regarding Ron Paul and the Truthers. Here’s a link you can start with.

http://ronpaulunexposed.com

Ron Paul’s message is finally getting out, yessssss.

Look at it like this. If you were to insult Thomas Jefferson wouldn’t you expect a outcry and the people coming forward to defend him? The same thing with Paul you refer to him as a loony but what you don’t mention is that his beliefs are identical to Jefferson’s now insult Jefferson and while your at it insult the constitution.

Heres a guy that tries to sound intelligent but doesn’t even know the truth sso is therefore either incredibly uninformed or incredibly brainwashed.There literally is no other explanation for idiots that refer to Paul as a loon.

Was Milton Friedman a loon?

Wasting time on lunatics like Ron Paul just for the sake of being sensational and tabloid really discourages me in thinking that Americans are serious about our future.

Mike, gotta disagree with you on this one. The fact that he is running for President makes it our responsibility to highlight his lunacy. It’s not for tabloid effect, but to ensure this guy doesn’t gain any traction outside of his already lunatic base. I will always strive to bring you guys all the other stuff like the Saddam/al-Qaeda connections and the idiocy of the man-made global warming frenzy but until this guy is gone from the primaries I will highlight this guys craziness.

Ron Paul has nothing to do with the wacko trutherite community. Ron Paul wants a serious debate on the nature of American foreign policy. Apparently, most Republicans are not yet ready for such a debate. The time will come when the country will realize that the we are stronger by protecting our borders rather than stepping over the borders of others.

Another hypocrite website.

Fair enough, Curt.

However, a simple post of his comments and then referring people to the facts that refute them would suffice. You guys here have a treasure trove of info and it is disheartening to me that your site is not used more to reference your Saddam/Al Qaeda info.

Plus, this is typical reactionary stuff from the center-right side of politics. Instead of always having to debunk and defend, why doesn’t the right ignore the nonsense from the right and get out there with their own message.

Fred Thompson is bypassing the traditional media and all the nonsensical “debates” which are ridiculously too early. I thought we had a country to run here and issues to address such as… oh I don’t know… a bunch of Islamic Totalitarians hell-bent on destroying the West and implementing sharia law in a global caliphate? Oh yeah and by the way, that iddy biddy problem of millions upon millions of illegal aliens infiltrating our non-existent borders and declaring American to be evil, yet they want to work here for the benefits and further drain our country until it collapses.

I’m sorry, but I see the blogs becoming more and more like the MSM everyday now, especially the last few months. There are little cliques of those who always link to one another and hype one another and people pretty much cover the same topics… ie, everyone right now is working to debunk Ron Paul. Meanwhile, Trutherism is catching on, because we have a massively ignorant American public… in addition we have an American public which is growing more and more to not believe in America and its superiority and its greatness as we more and more decide we shouldn’t stand up to the illegal aliens, we shouldn’t stand up to the Muslims working to destroy this country from within through CAIR and the MSA, among others and… it just goes on and on.

Then as a side note, we have a country which does not believe in the sanctity of life, so we are aborting ourselves out of the majority of the population and soon Mark Steyn’s predition will be true: our enemies will reproduce themselves (ie, having twice as many babies as us) into defeating the West.

I’m sorry for all the negativity. I just see this country losing itself and going down the tubes and the last couple weeks I have seen websites I frequent and respect spending their time making fun of Ron Paul.

I find it absolutely hilarious that some people viewing Ron Paul as some sort of enemy. Clearly, this is a case of cognitive dissonance on their part.

But it’s okay. Everything will be fine. Life’s not going to come to an end because Ron Paul is running for president and that major media is starting to listen to his message.

He won’t get elected, but his ideas will take root and grow. That’s the important thing.

America first!

Just to be clear: Let’s not get Michael in MI confused with Mike (Mike’s America) on Hilton Head Island.

Now, a few thoughts:

First of all, I’m surprised that this many of these Ron Paul/America Firster/Truther or Not Truther loons are still out there stirring things up.

Frankly, they’re so totally irrelevant, and just a noisy bunch of nobodies.

I’ve worked in political campaigns at every level from the Court House to the White House and never once met one of these folks at a political rally, a dinner, the party booth at the fairgrounds or anywhere else.

I don’t even think they should be called right wingers. Certainly they claim to be the only “true conservatives” but they never actually do anything to support a candidate other than these fad/fringe nut jobs like Ron Paul who pop out of the woodwork every so often.

Oh, and for the record, I’ve either met or worked for and participated in events with every top leader of the Conservative movement including:

-President Ronald Reagan
-Barry Goldwater
-William F. Buckley Jr.
-John Ashbrook
-Phyllis Schlafly
-Phil Crane
-Ed Meese

And that’s the short list. So I’m not about to take any guff from some nobody whose never done ANYTHING but go to some KKK rally and claim to be a conservative.

Finally, I think we DO need to expose and denounce these Ron Paul nuts. In doing so we illustrate a fundamental difference between ourselves and the Democrats. Michael Moore sat with President Carter in the Presidential Box at the Democrat Convention in 2004. You didn’t see, nor will you, any idiots like Ron Paul sitting in places of honor at a Republican convention.

Democrats embrace their loonies. Republicans are different. We TAKE OUT THE TRASH!

Mike in MI wrote:

Instead of always having to debunk and defend, why doesn’t the right ignore the nonsense from the right and get out there with their own message.

I think, in part, your question is answered in what you said later:

Trutherism is catching on, because we have a massively ignorant American public…

That’s the same public that might be “casual” news listeners. And those insignificant Hollywood know-nothings, like Sean Penn and Rosie O’Donnell, are sometimes worth giving attention to, because what they say perpetuates the ignorance.

I think the Bush Administration has been horrible in the PR dept. In defending themselves from the ridiculous. Silence, by not dignifying a nonsense with a defense, sometimes makes the Bush team appear “guilty as charged”.

Just so you know, I sometimes take a step back and feel frustrated too, with the amount of attention given to those who I see as a time-waster. I agree with Curt though, that Ron Paul deserves the bashing. Aim high and aim low…it all deserves repudiating. This includes 9/11 Truthers and Ron Paul nutters.

I understand your frustration Mike in MI, but as Word stated, silence does not force these loonies to the sidelines anymore. I agree that Bush doesn’t do enough offensive actions against the left when they go on and on with their tall tales and that most definitely hurts him in the here and now. His legacy won’t be hurt but right now it’s not doing any good. We cannot let a Presidential candidate spew this kind of idiocy without calling him on it.

Is their blog cliques? Most certainly. I rarely get mentioned by those cliques but I’m ok with that. My main goal since I started this blog was to keep the fire under the butts of the MSM regarding their blatant bias, and to keep putting out information on the righteousness of the war on terror and the main battle in that war…Iraq. Now, keeping a idiot such as Ron Paul out of contention for the presidency is just as important to me as keeping another idiot like Hillary out of that office. They are both dangerous to our national security and to the war on terror.

Does Ron Paul have a chance realistically? Nope. But I like to hedge my bets.

But I do feel your frustration Mike….I really do.

Dr. Paul states that he “never automatically believes anything the government does when they do an investigation.” You then launch into ridicule mode, from which no other conclusion can be drawn than that YOU DO “automatically believe everything the government does when they do an investigation!”

Either you are incredibly naive, or just too stupid to realize the self-torpedoeing implications of your rantings. Evidently what you concluded from Watergate is that government officials never ever cover up anything.

If the government is clean, then it should WANT to investigate those things which have given rise to suspicions, and supply convincing alternative explanations which would take the wind out the Truthierologists. Their reluctance to do so merely fuels the fires of speculaton. But then maybe they’re just waiting for “Patriot” Act enforcement to reach the level where all these “loonies” and other critics can be rounded up and put into the concentration camps.

I Tivo’d the Presidential Debate, but haven’t had a chance to watch it due to a family emergency. Thank goodness the hospital has free wifi.

So, I appreciate the information on Paul. Also, I like floppingaces because it is interesting and the posts are diverse.

Brod(y)ie:

It’s comments like your’s that give credence to the summaries of the other comments made about Paul’s followers. You might want to take it down a notch or two.

A Circus? What a lame way to seek to smear true Conservatism. Not the first time such tactics have been used.

And where are the supporters of the other candidates?

Ron Paul has widespread popular support.

As a lifelong Republican, I’ve found the Republican Party Establishment at the top (not the grass roots) sell us out. Alan Keyes who ran in 1996, and 2000 was awesome. However, in 1996 the GOP traitors had him arrested when he arrived at one Debate, the debate went on without him. No charges, for he was innocent, but merely a stall tactic to keep him out of view until the debate ended. Alan Keyes was speaking the traditional platform of abolishing the Marxist graudated income tax and the Federal Reserve.

You sorry suckers who think that G. W. Bush is conservative are idiots. True Conservatives find Ron Paul the man who stands with the platform—and more importantly the US Constitution—with not one other candidate of either party remotly coming close to him.

Perhaps you should Join Rudy Giuliani in a history Lesson from Dwight Eisenhower’s Secretary of Agriculture (who today Sean Hannity and other non-conservatives would love to smear), as well as Dr. W. Cleon Skousen, best selling author, and true conservative, of “The Naked Communist and “The Naked Capitalist.”

http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/Giuliani.htm

Just another liar with a smear campaign against Ron Paul. The truth is Ron Paul has the support of knowledeable people and the big government lovers can’t stand it.

“is Ron Paul has the support of knowledeable people”

Name three that could score above average on a standard I.Q. test.

It’s interesting that “conservatives” now seem to trust the government implicitly. Do you trust everyone on the 9/11 commission, all those former politicians and current lobbyists? I for one do not believe the gov’t played a direct role in 9/11 but neither do I believe that they give us all the information. They dropped the ball so why wouldn’t they cover their butts? It’s not just about Bush. Clinton dropped the ball too (to put it nicely).

People should really try to be a bit less biased, especially before knowing all the facts.

Ron Paul is a constitutional conservative not a “liberal.” You guys might want to look at the Republican frontrunners before tossing the term “liberal” around.

Who here is calling Ron Paul a “liberal”? I think Curt said it very well:

They are so far right they have almost come full circle and now support lefties ideals such as the Truther madness

“True conservatives”, such as Ron Paul and Michael Savage fashion themselves, and all those “angry-as-hell-all-or-nothing conservatives” and party purists are part of the problem.

Ron Paul is a nut. And he has demonstrated zero comprehension of the enemy, by laying all the blame on American foreign policy. That’s a page right out of the leftist playbook.

Mike’s America wrote:

“is Ron Paul has the support of knowledeable people”

Name three that could score above average on a standard I.Q. test.

–how about Rockwell, Sullivan or Sobran?

have you ever read Rothbard, Hayek, Mises, Mencken, Nock, Ortega, &c? this is the intellectual tradition you quick-typing Etatists are confronting. Dr Paul is just graciously serving as publicity vehicle for our reform of politcal economy and social philosophy.

as for the ‘popular’ support for Paul, I think it stems from more than a decade of total disenchantment of the political process, and the increasingly obvious realisation that this country is heading the wrong direction. a lot of regular people are pissed-off. and hardly any of them have discovered Paul 2008 yet. should make for an interesting political season. libertarianism has been in political hibernation for many, many moons. the bear is just now shaking off the cave dust.

as for the ‘popular’ support for Paul, I think it stems from more than a decade of total disenchantment of the political process, and the increasingly obvious realisation that this country is heading the wrong direction.

Yes, that POPULAR support…..wink wink nudge nudge.

I swear you guys are eating some herbal brownies or something.

Yes, that POPULAR support…..wink wink nudge nudge.

I swear you guys are eating some herbal brownies or something.

Posted by Posted by Curt | May 20, 2007 8:47 PM | Reply

too busy to bake. I just smoke the shit. I put the word popular between quotes on purpose. perhaps I should have used the word populist. I mean the left half of the intelligence bell-curve for Paul supporters.

but in any case, how much do you want to bet that he comes in fourth place or better in the NH primary?

Dammit Ron, you need to stop being so nice! When Rudy said your explanation of blowback was absurd and that he had never heard such a thing before, you should have taken the kid gloves off and let the bastard have it with something like this:

“Both the CIA and the 9/11 Commission report talk about blowback for our meddling in Middle Eastern affairs, as being one of the causes of their attacking us. So this is not some off the wall theory that I just came up with. It is truly a sad commentary on the quality of those in important leadership positions in this country, that the mayor of the city that was attacked on 9/11 has not read those important documents, and does not know their contents. Perhaps, Mr. Giuliani, you have been too preoccupied with your law firm’s representation of Cintra, the Spanish company that has been contracted to build the first phase of the North American Union Superhighway right through the middle of the State of Texas.”

I knew it! This isn’t at all about Ron Paul for President.

This is about the left running scared and trying to distract, distract, distract (lol) in an attempt to try to knock the good candidates out of the race.

The left’s antics totally crack me up!

Yeah he’s so out there that he’s raised more money in NH than any of the others save for Romney and only because he doesn’t take corporate money.

What is wrong with investigating the terrorists who did 911?

BY THE WAY, that video is at MY PARTY and I was standing RIGHT THERE and I was the one who LET THOSE BOYS IN and they ask ALL the candidates the same questions.

Malkin is a wild-eyed nutcase. MSNBC’s poll was unable to be spammed and he won that first debate with 46% because people saw the COURAGE he had to stand up to the ignorant Rudy.

To the fightinggop.org == sorry but there ARE NO GOOD CANDIDATES in the GOP

EXCEPT FOR RON PAUL.

Read my lips == Ron Paul. LOL

Man, you guys are some wacked out idiots.

What is wrong with investigating the terrorists who did 911?

Um, yeah. Already done by multiple sources. But I’m not surprised you Ron Paul supporters carry the tin hat in your back pocket. Wouldn’t expect anything else.

MSNBC’s poll was unable to be spammed and he won that first debate with 46% because people saw the COURAGE he had to stand up to the ignorant Rudy.

Can’t get any better then this, straight comedy.

Bah! Propaganda! Ron Paul is the only TRUE conservative left in this damn country.

To the poster:No Hillary is a new world order hack,she congratulated a man that won a award by a group that openally promotes world government.Ron paul spoke against what George H.W bush said in 1991 we need a “new world order”.ron paul is the anti-globalist but you keep voting between 2 globalists.

“In my opinion, Dr. Paul has more integrity, reason, and common sense than any politician I’ve ever seen and I know his message will resonate with people.”

1. Stop inflating our dollar.
2. Stop all free-trade agreements.
3. Stop all foreign aid.
4. Repeal the Federal Reserve act, the IRS and the 16th amendment.
5. Secure our Border with a double fence.
6. End the birth right citizenship.
7. Over turn all the unconditional Supreme Court decisions, and give the power back to the states and the people respectively.
8. Give all the federal land back to the states (federal parks).
9. Stop wealth redistribution, all federal social programs and if the states want they can pick them up respectively.
10. Withdraw from the United Nations.

But…then again some member of the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) would have him assassinated if he ever got close enough to the white house, because they will never cease control of this country legally. Maybe a war against them personally will soften their hearts. I think we should charge them all for treason and hang them.

Starting with:

Hillary Clinton CFR
Barack Obama CFR
Mitt Romney CFR
Chris Dodd CFR
Joseph Biden CFR
Bill Richardson CFR
Welsey Clark CFR
Newt Gingrich CFR
Dick Cheney CFR
John McCain CFR
Rudy Giuliani CFR
Bill Clinton CFR
Condeleeza Rice CFR
Donald Rumsfeld CFR
Al Gore CFR

Just a few of the thousand people that should be hung for treason…

With no apologies…

You can say what you want but you can’t dismiss the fact that Elitist owns this country and their control comes through the CFR. We need to end this crap and oust these scumbags!!

If you vote for anyone other than Ron Paul, you are part of the uneducated problem of our society!!

Do the research and stop with all the bickering!! We are in this together and it will take all of us to end the corruption of this tyrannical government!!

Letter: Wake up America

Morganton News Herald
Tuesday, June 12, 2007

I am saddened by what is happening in our country today. Most Americans are sleeping and have been asleep far too long. While we have been sleeping our country has been hijacked.
Laws have been broken; treasonous actions of politicians are threatening the very sovereignty of this nation; laws have been passed that are strictly forbidden by our Constitution yet no one seems to realize it or have any knowledge of what is occurring in our country today.

Our corporate controlled media is feeding us loads of propaganda and hiding behind the shield of corporate interest while our country is being sold off to foreign governments.

Our national parks are under the control of the United Nations and we continue to sleep.

Our borders are wide open, in a time of war, which allows anyone, including any terrorist that may be interested in entering this nation carrying disease, weapons or for heaven sakes nukes, an open highway through our southern states and we sleep.

Our corrupt government is attempting to build a six-lane Trans Texas Corridor super highway through the middle of our country that stretches from Mexico to Canada and we sleep. This government is also passing laws to create a North American Union that joins Mexico / US / Canada together as one super state and we sleep.

They have manipulated and contorted our constitution and created a police state around us as we sleep. They have militarized our police and provided militarized weapons and training as we sleep.

They continue to print money and drive inflation through the roof, costing each of us hard earned dollars in an invisible tax and we sleep.

We have lost jobs to foreign lands and we sleep. They raise our property tax and we sleep. They take and take and take and we sleep.

There is an awareness growing across this land and it is growing like wild fire. People are starting to wake up from their slumber. They are literally appalled at what is happening and what has been occurring while we were sleeping.

If you aren’t awake yet and have not been paying attention it is very important that someone shake you and get you up to speed. Our country is in trouble and we need many more people to awaken to make the necessary changes. We must question those in power. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you have seen this message may I please ask that you take the time to stop hitting the snooze button and start paying attention to what is happening to our country. It is the only one we have and I don’t want to loose my home, my family, my friends and my countrymen to foreign elitist.

We are facing pure evil and it is time to take a stand. It is time for the people of this nation to question their leaders and ask them why they are destroying our country. It is time for many voices of reason and compassion to be heard for the life of our nation. If you are one of those people that doesn’t care, go back to sleep. If you are a patriot and desire a country to call your own and to leave to your children, it is time to wake up and take a stand.

Vote for Ron Paul in 2008 and let your voice be heard. Vote for Ron Paul and join the revolution. Get to the Republican primaries and vote for Ron Paul.

We are going to take our country back.

We are going to wake up our people and we are going to fight for our Constitution, our freedom and our nation.

I rescind my earlier statement about you all cracking me up. I may agree with SOME of your points, but:

Hang a thousand people???
Created a military state???
Armed and militarized our police???

just to name a few. I may agree that Washington is on the verge of being out-of-control, but

You all, your antics and your tactics scare the hell out of me!

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. ”
Thomas Jefferson

So yes!!….If our corrupt government is committing treason, which they are, we should hang them all!!!

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. ”
Thomas Jefferson

“Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day. ”
Thomas Jefferson

This is precisely our message!!!….We are attempting to enlighten our people for if they become knowledgeable of these atrocities then tyranny will cease…

“Let common sense and common honesty have fair play, and they will soon set things to rights. ”
Thomas Jefferson

“I have ever deemed it more honorable and more profitable, too, to set a good example than to follow a bad one. ”
Thomas Jefferson

“I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us that the less we use our power the greater it will be. ”
Thomas Jefferson

“The greatest honor of a man is in doing good to his fellow men, not in destroying them. ”
Thomas Jefferson

Time to end this illegal war…..Time to end the Elitist control of our government. Time to end the reign of the Federal Reserve!! The Banking Cartel!! The illegal Income Tax!!

Time to bring back the Republic and end the Socialistic / Communist / Nazi regime that rules this country from abroad!

“The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government. ”
Thomas Jefferson

“The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. ”
Thomas Jefferson

They are attempting to disarm us as I type this message. They have set up a Police State around us, Open Your EYES!~!

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government… ”
Thomas Jefferson

The US Patriot Act pretty much destroyed the Bill of Rights, so it is time for this government to end it’s reign and for the people to STAND!!

We are being invaded by Mexico and our government could care less. They send our border guards to Iraq to train the Iraqis how to protect their borders while leaving ours wide open during a time of war….

Good God Man!! Use your common sense. They are attempting to destroy the middle class of this nation and they are doing a wonderful job of it so far because of people like you closing your eyes and blindly following these tyrants every wish!!

It is planned and your are falling right into the trap!!

Wake The F*ck Up!!! We are living under a Dictatorship!!

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/07/05/about_our_dictator/

http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=2169

http://www.progressive.org/mag_wx051807

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHI20070521&articleId=5720

Treason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/05/opinion/edbush.php

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/28/news/bush.php

If anyone scares me, You blind government bootlickers do!!!

Psss…just stay up in dem thar hills and get the boys ready to take back this govmint, ya hear me?

Sigh….

You people take the cake. Almost as bad as the Truthers.

“When even one American — who has done nothing wrong — is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril.”
Harry Truman

Remember this Quote Curt!!…..Your freedom of Speech and Opinion to type your none sense on this website is your RIGHT!!! The First Amendment of the Constitution protects it! Once we lose this Right, we all will suffer!!

“In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”
Mark Twain

Curt is a Communist!!…..He despises “Patriotism” and is a manipulator of the good deeds of common men.
He rejects common sense and spreads lies to create attention and to perpetuate a semblance of intelligence.
This Website is a Propaganda machine and a tool of the NWO!!

Curt is a Shrill!! What are they paying you Curt??

“Truth is less than truth until it is made known.”
John Wheeler

That is all we seek, the truth!!

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hand which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
. Samuel Adams, 1776

Why don’t you go back to your country Curt and take the rest of these totalitarionistic friends you keep around, with you!!

“The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it.”
John Hay, 1872

I will resist it and defend my country to the death.
That includes protecting your sorry @ss Curt!!

Hills or no Hills!!

US Marine Core!!…WHoo Rah!!

America is a bankrupt nation — it is owned completely by its creditors. The creditors own the Congress, they own the executive, they own the Judiciary and they own all the state governments.

Take silent judicial notice of this fact, but never reveal it openly in a court of law. Our courts are operating in an Admiralty Jurisdiction.

So you say, just innocently like a lamb, “Well, I never knew that I got involved with an international maritime contract, so I deny that such a contract exists. If they were to admit that the international bankers own the whole nation, then they would have to admit that we are their slaves.

Not Expedient??

But the bankers said it is not expedient at this time to admit that they own everything and could foreclose on every nation of the world.

DAMN RIGHT! “at this time” That is the KEY behind the building up of the UN as a MILITARY FORCE! This is the KEY to disarming America, that was the KEY to “ending” the cold war.

Like, now we have no more enemies, so we can melt all our guns. WRONG!!

The Bankers PLAN to foreclose, they just don’t want their HEADS BLOWN OFF WHILE DOING IT, so they DICTATE to the “congress” to get rid of the guns..” The reason they don’t want to tell everyone that they own everything is that there are still too many privately owned guns. There are uncooperative armies and other military forces. So until they can gradually consolidate all armies into a WORLD ARMY, and all courts into a WORLD COURT, it is not expedient to admit the jurisdiction of the courts are operating under. When we understand these things, we realize that there are certain secrets they don’t want to admit, and we can use this to our benefit.

It is time to take our country back!!

God you guys are fruitcakes.

SAT MAY 19 I Am A Republican, Not a Conservative!

“Truthers” are not ‘left wing’. They simply recognize who the real people are that run the government and happen to be suspicious of them. Suspicion is good even if we may never find out why those buildings were bombed.

You are a mind numbed robot who watches TV I’ll bet.

You don’t get half the story.

It’s no longer about left/right and until you become a true republic-an with a small ‘r’, that is someone who wants to save the republic, then you can’t really talk about being conservative.

No one has gone to the ‘left’ except RINOs who believe in bi-partisanship.

There is no more bi-partisanship. Both parties are the work of evil and together even more so.

It’s us vs them, and I’m ready to stand up for my republic and my sovereignty are you?

No you are too busy making fun of people instead of learning from them.

Remember ANYTHING is possible and it is no longer black and white or right and left.

I followed the trail of ‘totalitarionistic” here since people have reached the point of insanity in which words just have to sound good.

It’s Marine Corps you jackass.

Umm yeah that was fun and Ron Paul supporters continue to show just how bat shit crazy they are. I have a question for you RP worshipers, when Ron Paul retires, and he eventually will, who will be you new messiah? The fact that RP has been running for Pres. since the eighties and has never won, nor will he ever win, should indicate that you are hanging your hat on a complete loser. Sigh……