Posted by Curt on 12 June, 2005 at 7:11 pm. Be the first to comment!


I’m sure you have heard about the horrible horrible “torture” that the 20th 9/11 hijacker had to endure:

Now the interrogators could use stress strategies like standing for prolonged periods, isolation for as long as 30 days, removal of clothing, forced shaving of facial hair, playing on ?individual phobias? (such as dogs) and ?mild, non-injurious physical contact such as grabbing, poking in the chest with the finger and light pushing.?

According to the log, al-Qahtani experienced several of those over the next five weeks. The techniques Rumsfeld balked at included ?use of a wet towel or dripping water to induce the misperception of suffocation. ?Our Armed Forces are trained,? a Pentagon memo on the changes read, ?to a standard of interrogation that reflects a tradition of restraint.? Nevertheless, the log shows that interrogators poured bottles of water on al-Qahtani?s head when he refused to drink. Interrogators called this game ?Drink Water or Wear It.?

Dripping Water or Playing Christina Aguilera Music: After the new measures are approved, the mood in al-Qahtani?s interrogation booth changes dramatically. The interrogation sessions lengthen. The quizzing now starts at midnight, and when Detainee 063 dozes off, interrogators rouse him by dripping water on his head or playing Christina Aguilera music. According to the log, his handlers at one point perform a puppet show ?satirizing the detainee?s involvement with al-Qaeda.?

He is taken to a new interrogation booth, which is decorated with pictures of 9/11 victims, American flags and red lights. He has to stand for the playing of the U.S. national anthem. His head and beard are shaved. He is returned to his original interrogation booth. A picture of a 9/11 victim is taped to his trousers. Al-Qahtani repeats that he will ?not talk until he is interrogated the proper way.?

Invasion of Space by Female: Over the next few days, al-Qahtani is subjected to a drill known as Invasion of Space by a Female, and he becomes especially agitated by the close physical presence of a woman.

A 24-Hour Time Out: But a much more serious problem develops on Dec. 7: medical corpsman reports that al-Qahtani is becoming seriously dehydrated, the result of his refusal to take water regularly. He is given an IV drip, and a doctor is summoned. An unprecedented 24-hour time out is called, but even as al-Qahtani is put under a doctor?s care, music is played to ?prevent detainee from sleeping.?

Nine hours later, a medical corpsman checks al-Qahtani?s pulse and finds it ?unusually slow.? An electrocardiogram is administered by a doctor, and after al-Qahtani is transferred to a hospital, a CT scan is performed. A second doctor is consulted. Al-Qahtani?s heartbeat is regular but slow: 35 beats a minute. He is placed in isolation and hooked up to a heart monitor, TIME reports.

Over the next month, the interrogators experiment with other tactics. They strip-search him and briefly make him stand nude. They tell him to bark like a dog and growl at pictures of terrorists.

They hang pictures of scantily clad women around his neck.

WTF! This is it? What they hell are they supposed to do? Keep asking him please, then pretty please, then maybe even pretty please with sugar on top?

This is the 20th hijacker, the one where you know our government would use the best most thorough techniques to get him to talk and this is it….sleep deprivation, pouring water over his head, using gender to humilate him.

And Asshat International thinks the above is worse then the Cuban prisons, I mean they must since they don’t make a big stink about those prisons.

I was thinking about the use of torture and when it should be used. I mean real interrogation, not the pansy ass interrogation like TIME printed but the kind where pain is inflicted.

Imagine if we got a few of the 9/11 terrorists prior to their planes taking off. Imagine that we could of stopped the rest of the hijackers if we knew who they were, what planes they were taking, and so forth. How could we get that information from the few we captured and save 3000 lives? By playing Christina Aguilera music?

Should we use real torture at that point? At what point should it be used if we know they have real information that could stop the attack. How about if its a nuclear attack that will kill millions? Is it ok then?

Would those of you on the left be willing to watch millions die so that we don’t “stoop” to the level of the N. Vietnamese?

I would never rule out the use of physical torture if it is needed to prevent a terrorist attack on our soil that would kill many innocent lives. The tipping point would be time. If you don’t have the luxury of time because the attack is imminent then the other soft method’s just wont do.

If we could have gained the information on who those other hijackers were if we would have used torture, and we didn’t….costing 3000 lives, that would have been unforgiveable in my opinion.

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