George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of wrongly killing Trayvon Martin, will not immediately have to turn over donations made to his website, a Florida judge said Friday.
Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to his attorney, Mark O’Mara.
Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda asked Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to increase Zimmerman’s $150,000 bond. But the judge said he would delay ruling on the request, in part because he does not know if he has authority to say how the money can be used.
Lester and O’Mara both said they are concerned about releasing the names of donors to Zimmerman, who has faced threats since the case began making national headlines in March.
“My fear is they may well be targeted for reprisals or animosities or whatever,” O’Mara told reporters after the hearing.
Zimmerman’s family testified last week at his bond hearing that they did not have the kind of resources that would have been necessary to meet the prosecution’s suggested $1 million bond.
Zimmerman, 28, was released Monday on $150,000 bail, 10% of which was put up to secure his release while he awaits trial on a second-degree murder charge in Martin’s February 26 death.
About $5,000 from the website contribution was used in making bond, O’Mara said. The rest came from a loan secured by a family home.
Although Zimmerman spent some of the contributions on living expenses, about $150,000 remains, O’Mara said Friday. O’Mara said he has put the money into a trust he controls until a final decision is made about its use.
Lester asked for additional information about the accounts but did not indicate when he would rule.
“I’m not going to make a snap decision,” Lester said.
Also during Friday’s hearing, Lester declined to consider a gag order requested by prosecutors, saying it was premature and that none of the attorneys in the case had said anything to concern him so far. CNN was among the media organizations opposing the motion.
O’Mara said he learned about the money on Wednesday as he and Zimmerman were trying to shut down Zimmerman’s website, Facebook page and Twitter account to avoid concerns about possible impersonators and other problems.
“He asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts, and I asked him what he was talking about,” O’Mara told CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Thursday. “He said those were the accounts that had the money from the website he had. And there was about … $204,000 that had come in to date.”
O’Mara had said earlier this month that he believed Zimmerman had no money.
Asked whether knowledge of the money might have made a difference to Lester, who presided at Zimmerman’s bond hearing, O’Mara said, “It might have.”
O’Mara could not explain why Zimmerman didn’t disclose the funds, but said he didn’t think his client had meant to deceive anyone.
“If that was an oversight by him, then it was. And quite honestly, with everything he’s going through for the past several weeks, if that’s the only oversight he’s committed, we’ll deal with it, Judge Lester will deal with it,” he said.
Florida judge rejects bail hike for Trayvon Martin’s killer
Needs more information about Zimmerman fund raisingSANFORD, Florida (Reuters) – A Florida judge rejected a prosecution request to raise the bond for George Zimmerman on Friday, after it was disclosed that the man charged with murdering unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin had received about $200,000 from anonymous donors to fund his defense.
“I’m not going to make a snap decision,” Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. said during a hearing in Sanford, the central Florida town where 17-year-old Martin was shot dead by Zimmerman in February.
He spoke after Prosecutor Bernardo de la Rionda said the disclosure by Zimmerman’s lawyer on Thursday that donors had contributed “just over $200,000” to his defense meant that the amount of his bond should be reconsidered.
Lester said he needed more information about Zimmerman’s fund-raising before he could agree to any request for reconsideration of the bond.
@Mike O’Malley:
Duck. Dodge. Evade. So very typical.
You admit through your very own quoted words that you believe that supposedly quitting her job casts Ms. Fulton in “an unfavorable light” (your words):
Yet…you fail, once again, to answer the questions that I posed to you multiple times:
What you omitted from your response speaks much more loudly than what you included.
Good try though.
@Aye:
More condescension Mr. Aye?
And no Apology?
Have a good day Mr. Aye.
And that response ladies and gentlemen…combined with his repeated failure to answer why he’s holding the African-American female to a different standard than the white guys…makes it clearly abundant that Mr. O’Malley has racist views and tendencies he is unable, or unwilling, to even attempt to defend though presented with multiple opportunities.
It is now fairly commonly known that Sabrina Fulton has NOT quit her job.
She ran through 12 weeks of leave for vacation, death-in-the-family and used up her sick leave.
THEN, other employees of her gov’t job’s department got together and collected enough contributions for her to continue to take many more weeks off while not losing her job.
So, that’s what she’s doing.
She has a classy group of fellow employees who have opened their wallets and put their money where their mouth is.
She probably will never officially lose her job unless she chooses to do so.
So far, she is keeping it.
@Nan G:
Sabrina Fulton Receives Gift 8-Months Vacation Time From Miami-Dade Workers http://oldschool945.com/134708/sabrina-fulton-receives-gift-8-months-vacation-time-from-miami-dade-workers
I’m please that Sabrina Fulton has kept her job.
Well 8 moths of donated leave is certainly generous. Some years ago I did some union organizing among a similar demographic. I recall an instance where one of the Black single mothers, a government worker, lost her second son, to a drive by shooting. She wanted justice after her son was murdered. When I met her days after her second son was blown away she was desolate. She had lost all of her children. All killed in black on black violence. Our union was helpful and so were her black co-workers. But 8 months of donated vacation time! That is extraordinary in my experience. Why so much? Does racialism underwrite such extra-ordinary generosity?
From the article: She reportedly plans to continue to work for the Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation, and Friday released a video plea on behalf of the Second Chance on Shoot First Campaign, an organization that seeks to change what it calls dangerous gun laws around the country — including the vaguely worded ‘Stand Your Ground’ law under which Zimmerman claimed he acted in self-defense.
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None of us can relate to the loss of a 17-yr-old son (in the manner Trayvon died) unless we have experienced it ourselves. I understand that the death of any young son leaves mothers feeling empty and helpless. Some moms drown in their sorrow and quietly fade out of sight. Other mothers take up a cause in honor of their deceased child in an effort to spare other mothers the same tremendous pain and loss. Two examples have been given in this thread of parents who have taken the same steps of turning a painful loss into a productive cause. Marc Klaus and John Walsh took up causes after the losses of their children which resulted in America’s Most Wanted, Amber Alerts and finger printing children. Sabrina Fulton has taken up the cause to re-examine the vaguely worded ‘Stand Your Ground’ law.
I cannot, in good consciense, criticize any of their efforts. We have seen evidence that their causes brought positive and needed changes.
c. lindy
yes we here all feel her pain of course there is no way not to,
even if we are feeling the not guilty actions of the accuse men who is going through hell,
under the ones who want to pin a guilt on him since the first day they learned of it, they did not give the benefit of one wanting to save his life from a brutal attack which he did not die but died from his previous life because they point the finger and said in chorus ; CRUCIFY HIM,
THOSE ARE THE ONE SHE THE MOTHER JOINED TO ECHO THEIR HATE RACIST CLAIM,
THAT’S WHERE WE SHOUT OUTRAGE, AND FOLLOW ALL THE PLAYED BACK EVENTS AND MADE A
STAND FOR THE INNOCENT JUST TRYING TO SAVE HIS LIFE AT ALMOST THE END COMING IN,
OF COURSE WE REMAIN SORRY FOR THE PARENT MOURNING STILL, BUT REVENGE IS NOT RIGHT IF THE OTHER IS INNOCENT
YOU WILL SEE IT IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES,
NOT PART OF THE CULTURE IN AMERICA
@ilovebeeswarzone:
BUT REVENGE IS NOT RIGHT IF THE OTHER IS INNOCENT.
But we don’t know if Zimmerman is innocent. We only have Zimmerman’s version of the event. Martin cannot give his version. He was silenced by Zimmerman February 26, 2012. But alas, it is through the courts that the dead can speak from the grave in many cases. You can call Fulton’s efforts revenge, but then you would have to call Klaus and Walsh’s efforts revenge too. Personally, I don’t think any of the parents whose children were murdered, acted out of revenge. They wanted changes in hope that other parents and their children would not be vicitmized by the wayward nuts in this world.
Bringing Muslims into the mix is off-subject.
c. lindy
yes of course, for the others it was for a best cause, but for this one it gave us
a sour feeling of an eye for an eye inciting the BLACK TO SHOUT INJUSTICE AND DEMAND FOR HIS HEAD OF ONE MILLION DOLLARS, AND THIS MATERIALIZE IN MANY ATTACKS TO WHITE ON THE NAME OF TRAYVON, BRUTAL BEATING BECAUSE THEY WHERE WHITE ” ONLY ” and with such hate and racist
behavior, coming from the top to the lowest step of the ladder,
which left no doubt in seeing revenge actions,
@c. lindy:
But we don’t know if Zimmerman is innocent
No, we don’t, but in this nation, the accused is presumed innocent until a preponderance of evidence shows, beyond a reasonable doubt, otherwise.
We only have Zimmerman’s version of the event.
Although there were no witnesses to the exact moment of the shooting, we have a number of witnesses, as exhibited in the discovery, who state that it was Martin lobbing punches while straddling a prostrate Zimmerman.
You also said that the SYG law was “vaguely worded.” Actually, it is not. It gives clear, definded legal meaning to SYG. But it it only part of the SYG law that the Scheme Team of Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton object to; the part that eliminates civil suits if a person has been found to have been legally within their rights to stand their ground.
I have no objection to any parent becoming active in trying to help other kids, and their parents, to avoid the wrong track that some kids go down. I would respect Trayvon Martin’s parents if they became active to get other parents, especially fathers, involved with black teens. Trayvon Martin was no model teenager. He had been suspended for spray painting his high school lockers, been found in the possession of women’s jewelry in a fairly large quanity, and been suspected for two weeks on a “no tolerance” rule at his high school for the possession of a baggie with traces of marijuana and a pot pipe. His internet photos show a kid who was definately [at least] impressed with the gansta persona. This was no Eagle Scout. So, if his parents want to try to teach other parents how to steer their children in a different, and better, direction, good on them.
But that is not what they are doing, is it? Instead, they are appearing at events designed to create revenue for the Trayvon Martin Family Fund accounts, a non-profit organization designed to simply line the pockets of the various players.
The sad part is that I fear Sybrina Fulton will be the Cindy Sheehan of 2012. Once she has served her usefulness to the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, she will be thrown under their buses for other, more lucrative causes.
@c. lindy:
That is not true. We have far more than Zimmerman’s version of the event and so far the preponderance of available evidence supports Zimmerman’s innocence.
We also have the Martin Family / Ben Crump accusations against Zimmerman and so far the preponderance of available evidence does not support the Martin Family / Ben Crump accusations against Zimmerman.
That said our assessments need be tentative as the fulness of evidence is yet to be revealed, however without doubt the the Martin Family & Ben Crump have been inflaming a lynch mob in an effort to railroad George Zimmerman.
UPDATE:
I hope he complies rather than tries to flee.
One good note:
All sides, the prosecutor, the defender and the judge agree that witnesses’ identities MUST be kept secret in this case.
One noted, ”we are in a different age.”
Yeah, that’s an understatement.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-01/news/os-george-zimmerman-media-evidence-hearing-20120601_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-withholding-evidence-media-companies
AYE
THAT IS TOO BAD, BUT IT’S THE WIFE WHO LIED , not necessarly MAYBE IT’S HER MONEY GIVEN TO HER FOR HER SELF PROTECTION. the word lie is apply too often by they who want to find guilt on ZIMMERMAN, she probably was the recipient of that extra fund before the disclosure of the 200,000
money given by the public for the need of who need to be protected from the BLACK MOVEMENT AIMING AT HURTING ZIMMERMAN AND HIS LOVED ONE.
@Nan G:
The judge seemed to accept O’Mara’s representations about the second passport but it appears as though Mrs. Zimmerman was not being upfront about the Paypal funds. …
not good
and not particularly smart either.
The case may seem unique if one takes a myopic view of American history. In a way the racialist notoriety of this case makes it similar to that of Leo Frank almost a century ago. As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote at that time, “I very seriously doubt if the petitioner (Leo Frank) … has had due process of law … because of the trial taking place in the presence of a hostile demonstration and seemingly dangerous crowd, thought by the presiding Judge to be ready for violence unless a verdict of guilty was rendered.”
Mrs. Zimmerman appears to have shot Mr. Zimmerman in the foot (metaphorically). One must worry however whether George Zimmerman can get a fair trial. Maybe … we shall see …
Mike O’ Malley
I like your comment,
I have to notice that DE LA RONDA is not applying the rule of secrecy, when he has to spit on ZIMMERMAN AND ACCUSE HIM OF LYING WITHOUT GIVING A CHANCE TO ZIMMERMAN TO EXPLAIN. HE CAME PUBLIC
AND THAT lawyer CRUMP JUMP ON THE BAND WAGON WITHOUT AGAIN ANY PROOF, HE IS FOAMING AT THE MOUTH FOR SURE,
I find okay that the JUDGE recalled him, that’s just until he is giving the chance to explain why,
of course he would not have diminish his chances willingly, we will know more, HE MIGHT WANT TO PROTECT HIM FROM BEING ATTACK BY THE MOB STILL DANGEROUS,
AND MR CRUMP SHOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT MAKING ZIMMERMAN GUILTY OF WILLINGLY KILLING TRAYVON,
HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CARRIED THE BRUISE, SO HE WAS ATTACK, HE DID SHOOT TO SAVE HIS LIFE AT THE END, THE LAST END
NOW WE KNOW IT’S SAID THE AMOUNT WAS 8 DOLLARS AND CHANGE
AS OPPOSE TO 86 DOLLARS AND CHANGE,
SO WHERE’S THE BEEF? AN ERROR IS POSSIBLE
Mike O’ MALLEY
HI,
I HAVE LEARNED THAT THE 8TH OF AUGUST will be the next session in COURT WITH THE JUDGE,
DOES THAT MEAN ZIMMERMAN WILL BE IN JAIL ALL THIS TIME?
I SURE HOPE NOT, HE IS ON SECLUDE CELL NOTHING ONLY SOLITARY SELF,
THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS FOR AN INNOCENT MAN WHO IS NOT PROVEN GUILTY,
AND I learned this last days that the process will maybe go to 2013 could that be he is still will be secluded in jail all this time, the CRUMP SAYS ONLY ZIMMERMAN SAID HE WAS ATTACK. CRUMP IS LYING OR DID NOT PAY ATTENTION OF THE WITNESS WHO CALL 911 TELLING ZIMMERMAN WAS GETTING BEAT BY THE ONE ON TOP,
about the money, it might be that PAYPAL HAD NOT DISCLOSED THE 86 DOLLARS AT THE TIME ZIMMERMAN WAS IN COURT, BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS COMING TOO MUCH AT THE SAME TIME OVER FILLING THE CYBER EXCHANGE ALL AT ONCE SETTING THE STAGE FOR ERRORS OF COMPUTING IT AT ONCE, THIS MUST BE CHECKED BECAUSE ZIMMERMAN WAS NOT CONSTANTLY IN FRONT OF HIS COMPUTER CHECKING THE MONEY INCOMING, THAT IS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND JUDGE LESTER, WHY WOULD ZIMMERMAN PUT HIS CREDIBILITY IN DANGER ON THIS CRITICAL TIME?
HE WOULD NOT HAVE DARE BECAUSE TOO MUCH IS WEIGHTING FOR HIM , HE IS NOT STUPID,
THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS WHICH WE MUST THINK ABOUT, HE WAS WITHOUT SLEEP AS WE LEARNED, THIS TAKE AWAY YOUR FOCUS ON DETAILS SURELY AT THE TIME OF HIM BEING IN GREAT FEAR FOR HIS LOVED ONES LIVES AS HIS OWN, SO SOME DETAILS MIGHT HAVE TAKEN THE BACK OF THE MINDSET, NOT BECAUSE HE MEANT TO LIE, AND ANOTHER FACT IS THAT HE DEPENDED ON OTHER TO CHECK HIS PAYPAL SO THEY MIGHT HAVE GIVEN HIM THE WRONG NUMBERS WHILE HE WAS IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE THAT DAY.
AND MORE FACTS WILL COME AS IT IS DEVELOPING,
AND NOT BAD ENOUGH TO PUT HIM IN PRISON SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, JUDGE BECAUSE YOU ARE ANGRY?
NOT GOOD ENOUGH EXCUSE, AND YOUR ANGER IS NOT HIS FAULT. IT’S FOR YOU TO MANAGE IT, NOT BY SENDING HIM IN JAIL. YOU COULD ASK FOR MORE MONEY WHAT THE HECK IF YOU WANT.
@ilovebeeswarzone:
I’m sure they county will segregate Zimmerman from the prison population for his own safety.
I hope he is released on bond soon. Based on the evidence I’ve seen so far I think George Zimmenrman is innocent. However his wife did something stupid and damaging. She damaged her husband’s creditability before the court. Perhaps Mr. and Mrs Zimmerman are basically honest people and made a mistake under lynch mob pressure but it was a serious mistake not tot level with the court and their own defense counsel about the $200,000 defense fund. It seems to me that they got sandbagged by the prosecution, however if they had been upfront with O’Mara he could have protected them. Mrs. Zimmerman is lucky she was not jailed.
Mike O’
I know in other countries (I’m not sure about here) sometimes witnesses are allowed to testify from a closed courtroom or from behind a screen.
If the mob is out for blood to the point that Zimmerman cannot get a fair trial anywhere in the USA then the mob has shot itself in the foot…..metaphorically.
Zimmerman would have to be freed.
Obama is probably happy that this $#!+storm he started won’t play all the way out until after the Nov election.
Obama’s ”if I had a son he’d look just like Trayvon,” remark was his equivalent of ”messin’ with sasquwatch.”
Obama had no idea the can of worms he was opening.
Nan G.
yes, with his life on illegal drugs intake, which he talk about himself as
pleasured achievements enough to brag ,
yes some of the SAME WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS SONS.
@Mike O’Malley:
BDLR asked if she knew how much was in the web account *right now*
SZ said that currenty she did not know.
BDLR then asked who would know. SZ said that her brother-in-law. BDLR asked if her BIL would be available for the Court to make inquiries. SZ said that they could contact him by phone.
THIS was excised from the prosecution’s motion.
SZ education as a nurse likely taught her to actually listen closely to questions and answers. You notice she answers in full sentences, to make sure that you can understand what she is responding to.
BDLR is used to asking questions which he knows the answer to. BDLR was surprised by the answer about the BIL, and had to think about some response “um he’s not there, we probably couldn’t contact him, um” SZ: we can call him on the phone. Since BDLR didn’t get the answer he expected, he simply left that part of the exchange out.
He might not have even d0ne it intentionally. Too him, it is not important what is actually said by a witness, but rather he can convince a jury. He simply ignores contrary information.
jimrtex
that is a good info, thank you for that,
@Mike O’Malley:
Shelly Zimmerman was asked if she knew about the online account. She replied in the affirmative. She was then asked if she knew how much money was in the online account “right now” and she said she did not. She also said that her brother-in-law would be aware of how much was there, but did the prosecution ask to be put in contact with the brother-in-law? No. And please, if the judge was interested in the exact dollar amount, he could have recessed until the brother-in-law was on the phone and allowed him to be questioned about the amount.
The prosecution also claimed to have audio tapes of Shelly Zimmerman at the credit union talking with George about the Paypal funds. Problem with this is, as in another recent case involving the internet where the judge said he was of the “Royal typewriter generation”, it seems that Judge Lester is unaware that you cannot request PayPal funds through your banking institution. Also, the prosecution claims to be in possession of the Zimmerman’s credit union statements showing an influx of money. Odd that the prosecution never made the claim that there were credits listed on the statement that would read as follows:
Deposits:
4/28/2012 PayPal $XX.XX
Even credit union checking/savings accounts will show deposits and where they originated from if they were via a wire transfer (as PayPal does) when there is no deposit slip made out by the account holder. The short length of time the PayPal account had been in affect for George Zimmerman would rule out any deposit made from a check sent to Zimmerman by PayPal.
The prosecution provided just enough information to a judge who seems to have little knowledge of how internet accounts work to get George Zimmerman’s bail revoked. And the transcripts of the audio of the conversations between Shelly and George Zimmerman were heavily edited when presented to the court and did NOT present the part where Shelly discusses that the funds were for legal defense.
Also, the judge has the authority to increase Zimmerman’s bond, but to totally revoke the bail due to slim claims by the prosecution was a bit out of line. He has the authority to increase the bail, and to jail Zimmerman until such time that the new bail was met, but not to jail Zimmerman indefinately. Basically, Judge Lester is playing to the defense, and the talking heads like Benjamin Crump, bottom feeder extrodinaire.
I am also bothered that Judge Lester has not issued a gag order on Benjamin Crump who has been making demands that he has no authority to make. Crump has no part in the criminal trial, and he is simply tainting any jury pool in that area. But getting rich on such cases is Crump’s claim to fame.
@jimrtex:
This is prosecutorial misconduct. The prosecution has a responsibility to present facts as honest. BDLR did not do that, and actually left out pertinent information because it did not fit his agenda which was to put Zimmerman in jail until trial.
@retire05:
Have you listened to the interview with Witness 12? He and his wife had heard some yelling. He was assembling furniture, she peeked out saw some fighting. He said let them settle it. They heard shots, she peeked out again and saw someone “hunched over” another person. He went through the garage and around the end of the unit and saw Zimmerman walking toward the T. Zimmerman asked if his head was bleeding.
Witness 12 was the one who took the picture of the bleeding head with his cell phone. During his FDLE interview on March 20, they had been interviewing him for about 15 minutes. He suddenly remembered something, and apparently his wife had walked into the room, he said something about them being from the FDLE and state attorney’s office. You could hear water running, and she ask if the investigators would like some water? He politely declines. And W12 returns with his laptop. He had transferred the pictures from his cell phone and forgotten he had them. There are apparently 3 pictures. One is of Martin’s body, presumably before any CPR was performed, and the other shows the two flashlights.
The agents ask if they could have a copy. He said sure, I’ll email them right now, as the agent pulls out his card with his email address. The wife who had apparently been listening in, says “are they the attorney” with more than a little wariness and a bit of alarm. Her husband reassures her that they were from the State Attorney’s office.
This was March 20. Zimmerman did not have an attorney (Sonner) until April 4. One of the agents sounded like he was probably black. So this indicates that Crump or his assistants were all over the neighborhood pushing witnesses.
Mercy… this isn’t rocket science.
Zimmerman and wife got busted via recorded phone calls while in jail.
The Motion to Revoke was filed… and the prosecution provided recorded audio of 151 GZ jail calls between 4-19 and 4-22 to the courts as supplemental discovery.
This is the second time that GZ has not been upfront with his legal counsel. As O’Mara’s team admits on his GZ Legal site, the jail calls “..make it clear that Mr. Zimmerman knew a significant sum had been raised by his original fundraising website.” O’Mara is chalking up this lack of disclosure (not ignorance) to GZ’s ” fear, mistrust, and confusion.”
He polishes up that admission with this little ditty:
Perhaps that’s the reason that the filing for a new bond hearing they planned on doing that same day was rethought, and they postponed that request for a few weeks 24 hours later.
Thank heavens that O’Mara is not fool enough to try to defend the indefensible. GZ needs to be more transparent and above board with his legal counsel. He is doing himself no favors if he doesn’t.
MATA
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO,
YES THE FEAR AND MISTRUST AND CONFUSION MUST BE THE REASON WHY,
IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, WHAT HE WENT THROUGH AND THE BLOOD LOST, AND SLEEPLESNESS HE WAS MENTIONING,
MAKE HIM WEAK AND DIZZY,
BYE
Bees… desperate grab at fantasy there, girl….
MATA
JUST TRYING TO BE ON THE SIDE OF HIS FREEDOM WHICH
I am convince , HE DESERVE TO HAVE, hopefully,
Well, Bees… our justice system doesn’t work on what you or others are convinced of. It will be what a jury believes after they have been presented with all the evidence and testimony… of which not even half has been released yet… and none of it in full detail as the trial presentation will be.
You have never read any one of the multiple statements by Zimmerman himself because they’ve not been released to the public as of today. Therefore the entire GZ story you’ve decided to play out in your mind is the compilation of media reports and statements by third parties.
If Casey Anthony could get a fair trial, with all that press, so can Zimmerman.
@MataHarley:
The state attorney deliberately and materially misrepresented the testimony at the bail hearing in their motion for revocation of bond.
I guess I’ll have to repeat myself here, jimtex. At least O’Mara is not fool enough to try to defend the indefensible.
When your own defense attorney notes that the jail call recordings indicate you were not telling the truth, and that it has damaged your credibility, it seems that the prosecution, and the judge’s final determination to revoke the bond, were not misrepresented at all.
MATA,
YOU ARE RIGHT ON,
BUT THE ONES WHO WANT HIM DEAD are a very powerful force of destruction, which gain more power these last years by being approved and left to themselves,
that is the danger he is facing, and even hi lawyer has threats now.
they are insane and dangerous,and free
@MataHarley:
At the new bail hearing, O’Mara will highlight the State’s deliberate and material misrepresentation of Shellie Zimmerman’s testimony. Judge Lester is not going to like that he was manipulated into suggesting perjury charges.
It doesn’t matter, jimtex. While getting bogged down in the details of trying to put this off on Ms. Z, or parsing words, the fact still remains is that both knew there were significant funds available, and they deliberately did not disclose it.
Try #3… at least O’Mara is not fool enough to try to defend the indefensible. Please don’t assume that position for yourself.
Alan Dershowitz, a pre-eminent law professor and himself a practicing attorney, had been critical of Angela Corey, Special Prosecutor in the Zimmerman case. Corey, who should assume the position of seeking justice, had stated she is clearly seeking justice for only one person, Trayvon Martin.
Corey, apparently influenced by her association with another bottom feeder, Benjamine Crump, recently contacted Harvard to claim she has the right to not only sue Alan Dershowitz for expressing his opinion, but Harvard as well since they employ Dershowitz.
“State Attorney Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the George Zimmerman case, recently called the Dean of Harvard Law School to complain about my criticism of some of her actions.
She was transferred to the Office of Communications and proceeded to engage in a 40-minute rant, during which she threatened to sue Harvard Law School, to try to get me disciplined by the Bar Association and to file charges against me for libel and slander.”
Obviously, it seems that Ms. Corey, along with those she is pandering to, feel they are the only people in the nation that have a right to comment on this case, and that all dissenting opinions should be quelched. Professor Dershowitz goes on to slam her hard, suggesting she return to law school due to the lies of ommission contained her her Murder 2 affidavit:
“She should go back to law school, where she will learn that it is never appropriate to submit an affidavit that contains a half truth, because a half truth is regarded by the law as a lie, and anyone who submits an affidavit swears to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.”
Dershowitz continues:
“In her motion to revoke his (Zimmerman’s) bail, Corey argued that Zimmerman “intentionally deceived the court: by making “false representations.” The same can be said about prosecutor Corey. She too misled and deceived the court by submitting an affidavit that relied on a review of photographs and other reports that showed injuries to Zimmerman, without disclosing the existence of these highly relevant injuries.”
If Anglea Corey is so insecure in her ability to successfully prosecute George Zimmerman, and has to resort to making threats against Alan Dershowitz and Harvard Law School, his employer, perhaps she should resign the case. I am sure Benjamin Crump can find a place for her in his law firm comprised entirely of black Americans. She would look soooooo good on an Affirmative Action work sheet: white, female, and if she wanted to claim 1/32 Native American ancestry, another minority.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Zimmerman-Trayvon-Angela-Corey/2012/06/05/id/441305
RETIRE05 you have to be a lawyer to be able to find those treasures,
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN IS IN GOOD HANDS,AFTER THIS, I think they will do their jobs for the right reason,
that is FOR JUSTICE FOR GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, THE ACCUSED AND VICTIM.
@MataHarley:
@Aye:
@MataHarley:
@MataHarley:
@Aye:
Just because the money was coming in for George Z. does NOT mean he knew about every dime of it.
We use a credit union.
Because of limits on each account we have had to put a few savings accounts in one of our names instead of both.
On those accounts I can go in or call and not be told the balance or be allowed to take cash out (if the ones are in my hubby’s name.)
The credit union account was in Zimmerman’s BIL’s name.
IF Goerge needed cash before when he was in hiding in another state, he had to get it THROUGH his BIL.
There’s no way he could just get it unless his name was also on that account.
So, it might be true that George and his wife didn’t know the details of how much was still in that account when they were asked in court.
An account like that would also be in flux as money comes in as well as going out.
I’m not trying to take a side as much as trying to explain how George and his wife might not have been lying when they said they didn’t know how much was in the account.
Too bad the BIL wasn’t put under oath and asked.
He could have been.
He was brought up often enough.
@Aye:
@Aye:
@Aye:
IVAN
behave yourself please,
there is a lot more to do on the subject,
we must focus, new things are coming,
and he is in prison for the money sake,
human been don’t count any more for them,
when you get mad enough to send someone in the jail because of number of money,
it has become troubling,
good that the EMERITUS DERSHOWITZ IS LOOKING AFTER HIS CASE,
HE IS THE LIGHTENING ROD FOR WHO IS NASTY AND HAS BAD INTENT,
@MataHarley:
@retire05:
Thank you Retire05.
So this how it is playing out? Corey sandbags George Zimmerman by way manipulating evidence and put’s Zimmerman’s wife in jeopardy of imprisonment for lying. All the while Corey’s indictment, the very device that forced Zimmerman into custody to begin with, is a tissue of lies and dishonesty itself?
One may wonder whether Corey’s benevolence and professionalism will extend to slipping Mrs. Zimmerman a unregistered gun with a single bullet so she can kill herself after her husband, having pleading down to a manslaughter charge to protect his wife, is knifed to death in prison. Sybrina Fulton will then have her “Justice for Trayvon” (A twofer) and Angela Corey can run for governor or for the US Senate!
Maybe not. Even Mike Nifong didn’t lose control like this!
If Angela Corey were to sue, under New York Times Co. v. Sullivan., the plaintiff, Angela Corey, is a public official. Therefore Corey as plaintiff must establish that the defendants, Alan Dershowitz and Harvard University, acted with actual malice with clear and convincing evidence. This high threshold will be impossible for Corey to meet. She should know this. Corey may be on her way to becoming a laughing stock. If she were to bring such a suit I wouldn’t be surprised to see Corey end up reimbursing Alan Dershowitz’s and Harvard University’s legal fees.
Mike O’Malley
hi,
I can imagine COREY against a 50 years experience EMERITUS DERSHOWITZ,
SHE WOULD REGRET HER MOVE ALL HER LIFE,
AND THE HARVARD UNIVERSITY, OH MY, WE JUST LEARNED SOME SIDE OF HER,
WHICH DOESN’T LOOK GOOD FOR HER
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone:
This ambitious fool has witlessly provided Dershowitz the wherewithal to make of her a laughing stock.
@Mike O’Malley:
Angela Corey has just proven that she is nothing more than a polical animal. This was a local case, just as thousands of similar cases are every year, but she obvioiusly thought that since she was appointed as Special Prosecutor, she could milk it for the fame it would bring her since she was fully aware that Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson and Benjamin Crump, who she certainly would have been familiar with, were all involved.
So she meets with the Martin/Fulton Pity Party and holds a prayer meeting and declares that she will seek “justice for Trayvon.” What followed was a filed affidavit that was not worthy of a first year law student, and she got called down on it by a highly respected Harvard law professor who has forgotten more about the law than she will ever know. Ouch. But Corey didn’t like being criticized and so she thought that she could intimidate both Dershowitz and Harvard Law into silencing Dershowitz who has been critical of her every action. Now Dershowitz has hit her with both barrels and it is going to leave a mark. When your prosecutorial actions are so bad that they garner the notice of a Harvard Law professor, you are going to go down like a rock.
Her best move now may be to apologize to Dershowitz or he just may get involved in the case himself just to knock her down a peg or two. Paybacks can be a b!tch.
Oh, she won’t sue, Mike, she’ll just whine and complain about how she, a public figure, is being demonized, all the while she fabricates her case against George Zimmerman and withholds publishing evidence to back up her claims (like George Zimmerman’s credit union statement and only providing the court with a edited phone conversation).
Someone should sent her the case history of another prosecutor who thought they had a airtight case against some Duke LaCross players.
@retire05:
Was the State paying her (and her phone bill) for her 40-minute phone rant to Harvard?
Maybe Rick Scott can remind state employees to be frugal with their personal use of state resources.