John Sexton:
The Obama administration has issued a last-minute regulation aimed at preventing states from defunding Planned Parenthood. The rule, which is set to take effect two days before President-elect Donald Trump takes office, would prevent states from cutting off federal health funds to organizations that also provide abortions. From the NY Times:
The department initiated the rule-making effort in September after more than a dozen Republican-dominated states in recent years had moved to “defund” Planned Parenthood by blocking clinics from receiving public money…
“This rule will strengthen access to essential services like cancer screenings and contraception for some of the most vulnerable patients in this country,” Dr. Karen A. Scott, chief medical officer at the Department of Health and Human Services, said in a statement.
Dr. Scott added that “public comments showed overwhelming support for finalizing the rule” — 91 percent of the roughly 145,000 responses received since September, according to department officials.
Any illusion that this rule was about anything other than protecting Planned Parenthood can be put aside by looking at the response from PP’s Cecile Richards. Today she praised the new rule in a tweet, calling Obama “a champion for women’s health.”
.@POTUS has cemented his legacy as a champion for women’s health. Now, we continue to fight for our patients’ access to care. https://t.co/FrRkn2qxhv
— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) December 14, 2016
So is the Trump administration stuck with this? Not really. The rule can be rolled back in one of two ways.
Obama commiting millions to the bloody hands of Planned Parenthood so they can kill more unborn babies and from a man who received a Peace Prize Dont look now but the dove went into hiding
I see that liberal leftists rag PEOPLE has a full front page article about the Obamas just a big time liberal mush peice about americas all time worst president and first lady especialy after this dumb Obama movie SOUTHSIDE WITH YOU bombed
More blood money for them to murder more innocent babies with all part of OBAMACARE and more reasons to have it repealed
Unfortunately he can’t give the Tin Man a heart or the Scarecrow a brain, which I’m afraid pretty much leaves a lot of people where they were when he came in. But soon they’ll have a president who likely won’t make them too conscious of the fact that they’re lacking either.
Unplanned parenthood is an abortion mill designed to harvest organs to the highest bidder….
I suppose, then, we can soon get back to the good old days of frightened young women bleeding out or dying of septic shock in their bedrooms after self righteous right wing jackasses leave them with no option but unwanted pregnancies or backroom abortionists.
You have routinely demonized what you disapprove of with lies, and have now come to the point where you can no longer tell lies from the truth. Much of what you hate is the product of your own imagination. It’s the way you’ve made yourself come to see the world. Rather than seeking the truth on any topic, you seek confirmation of your own illusions. You feel deeply threatened by anyone who doesn’t share them, or, worse still, who challenges them when you seek to impose them on others. This is the source of your hostility and anger.
Donald Trump got elected by understanding this, and by telling you what you wanted to hear. This isn’t going to solve your problem. Most likely it will only make your anger worse.
@Greg:
What do you call 55 million dead babies…..
Choice
Abortion is killing, period…..
Terminated pregnancies are not dead babies. That deliberate misrepresentation is exactly the sort of lying bullshit I was referring to in post #6.
@Greg: What do you call post partum abortion? The federal government specifically the administrative branch can not dictate to the state where their funds are spent. If you remember, there is a law that prevents the federal government from funding abortions.. Again Greg, you show your ignorance.
Careful. You’re starting to sound like Donald Trump’s Twitter posts.
@Greg:
And exactly what is the product of a “terminated” pregnancy, Greggie? Is it a live butterfly, or a comatose puppy? And what is death, exactly? It is the absence of life, Greg, because there is no state of existence called “death.”
But you cannot even bring yourself to call abortion what it is, the termination of a life form that, left untouched, can only become a human being.
Or, we could go back to the good old days where young women had more respect for themselves than to think that “free love” was actually free and sex is just a recreational hobby. You know, the good old days when people actually felt responsible for their actions?
@Greg:
There, I fixed that for you….
BTW;
http://moonbattery.com/graphics/aborted-hillary-voters.jpg
Refer to the first paragraph of post #6. Let me know when you come up with a logically and morally defensible response to that point.
Maybe I’ll just repeat it for you, to save you the inconvenience of clicking on the link:
You’ll probably just deny that such things ever happened. You’re very big on denial these days. Or perhaps you think such outcomes are appropriate ends for people who don’t behave as you believe they should?
There are numerous billionaires (Soros for one) who should just love to carry on the exceptionally good works of margaret Sanger. So please get off your sanctimonious, holier than thou attitude. Just include us out of unwillingly participation in racial genocide (black babies lives do matter) .
As reported by the Heritage Foundation, and based on PP’s own annual reports, federal and state funding of PP as of 2014 amounted to $528 million, or 41% of their revenue. The estimated number of abortions were over 300,000, up from roughly 197,000 in 2001. There is no morally defensible nor valid argument to deny that PP is receiving taxpayer funding for abortions.
Abortion services comprise only 3 percent of all contacts between Planned Parenthood and the women it serves. 42 percent of all contacts involve screening for and treating sexually transmissible diseases; 35 percent involve contraception services, which undoubtedly greatly reduce the incidence of unwanted pregnancies and abortions; 11 percent involve other women’s health services unrelated to abortion or contraception; 9 percent involve women’s cancer screening.
There’s no logical reason to assume federal dollars are going abortion services. There is a logical reason to believe that eliminating federal funding would reduce the availability of contraceptives and education, leading to an increase in unwanted pregnancies. Unfortunately logic is a foreign concept on the right.
@Greg:
Link?
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/05/429641062/fact-check-how-does-planned-parenthood-spend-that-government-money
Page 19
Planned Parenthood was founded by a full fled racsist who probibly approoved of murdering unborn black babies like most liberals always do
@July 4th American, #17:
Even more shocking and saddening is the number of culminated sexual acts that fail to produce conception owing the the use of a prophylactics.
The point being, What is your point?
For whatever reason, pregnancies frequently occur when there’s not only no intention to give birth to a child, but a very strong desire not to do so. A pregnancy is not a child from the moment of conception, except in the imaginations of certain people who are apparently blessed with a diminished capacity of clarity of thought. Deciding to terminate a pregnancy is not a decision to terminate a person, because there as yet is no person.
I know it’s a difficult concept—that things which could be but are not yet exist only in the imagination, and consequently are not being destroyed if they never come to be. You really should try to sort this one out, since it’s an important principle to grasp if one wishes to have a correct understanding of reality. Perhaps then it might be understood that it’s far more important to worry about children that already do exist, who are too often being inadequately nourished, sheltered, clothed, and educated. For some odd reason the right seems to be more concerned about mandating that every sexual miscalculation be honored with the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of a person from the moment of occurrence than about the well-being of a 6-year-old child living in poverty.
@Greg:
Even more shocking and saddening is the number of culminated sexual acts that fail to produce conception owing the the use of a prophylactics
So why are we not supporting the local drug store. Aren’t you tired of parroting the left propaganda? Don’t you ever want to have an original thought? .
@Greg:
You can lie about the fungibility of federal cash all you want, the funds the federal government pays to PP for non-abortion services go into the same pot that PP uses to pay for overhead and salaries. Your shell game propaganda doesn’t erase the reality that tax dollars are being paid in violation of the Hyde Amendment to pay for the murder of the preborn.
@Randy, #20:
Those are all my thoughts. You seem to have difficultly recognizing when comments are something other than copied-and-pasted material lifted from some other location, and written arguments that are developed from a stated premise.
@Greg: All of your posts are parroted from the lefty phrase book. You lack the ability to follow intelligent arguments and must always resort to your liberal phrase book.
@Randy, #23:
Yeah, well…. I’m still waiting for an intelligent response to the following observation…
…which didn’t come out of anybody’s “lefty phrase book.” It’s an observation about the sort of screwed up world the right will create for everyone else, given half a chance.
@Greg:
Garbage leftist agitprop, as usual.
The other options, which you refuse to acknowledge, are:
1. Don’t have irresponsible sex
2. Give the baby up for adoption
3. Raise the child
And who conferred upon the right the authority to control other people’s private lives? The Taliban and ISIL clerics think the same way. We’ll have no such bullshit here, thank you very much.
@Greg: Actually, the left/liberal whole effort is to control other peoples lives. What do you think Obama Care was? What do you think penalizing people for not being politically correct? By embracing liberalism, you are what you just descried as BS. You are so seeped in liberalism that you can not even understand that you are just a pawn spewing what you have been told was the right thing to say.
@Greg:
Abortion is killing, period. Those who take the life of an innocent unborn child are without morality and that is a disease that has plagued our civil society. Abortion is not courage, it is pure cowardice. Those who promote the killing of the unborn are mentally unstable and lack self respect.
@Greg:
@Greg:
You don’t even recognize the intrinsic hypocrisy in your position. You rail and bellow against “the right to control other people’s private lives”, as if those who oppose abortion are holding a gun to womens’ heads and forcing them to have sex. Yet you demand that pro-life individuals be required to have their lives interfered with via being forced to be complicit in a clear violation of their religious and/or ethical beliefs vis a vis their tax dollars being used in a pathetic attempt at erasing the consequences of others’ choices of action.
@Pete: I totally agree with you Doc.
Why do human animals slaughter and consume non human animals? Why cows and not dogs. Is it about taste?
Some societies eat dogs–others have eaten humans. Is that O.K.?
Why is it alright to kill ANY sentient being?
“The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way it’s animals are treated.” Gandhi
@July 4th American, #28:
Before consciousness and self-awareness have appeared in a developing fetus, the only “innocent unborn child” involved is the one that exists in your imagination. And before you try to go there, reflexive responses to external stimuli don’t qualify as signs of consciousness and self-awareness.
A child which exists in only in your imagination has no legal rights. That which has the potential to become a thing is not yet the thing itself. An acorn is not an oak tree.
How is it you fail to follow this logic? It always comes down to religious precepts—which are not necessarily the same as, nor any more correct than those of other religious people, who often believe quite differently. Under the Constitutional laws of the land, your personal religious precepts to not get preferential treatment. You don’t get to use the government as a tool to impose them upon others. You may, however, govern your own life and make your own decisions in accordance with them. That is your right, as much as it is mine.
@July 4th American, #29:
The 547-pdf document, Human Fetal Tissue Research: Context and Controversy, is entirely real. While presenting presumably factual information, the presentation itself involves spin that leads readers to draw inaccurate conclusions. Consider the paragraph Phelim McAleer quoted in his article:
What is actually being said? One thing is that ABR paid Planned Parenthood a sum of $60 for the fetal tissue in question, which in all probability is barely enough to cover Planned Parenthood’s additional costs of providing the tissue as opposed to simply destroying it as medical waste. That’s not baby parts for profit; that’s providing material that would otherwise be destroyed to a supplier to those engaging in legitimate medical research, at no profit whatsoever.
Another thing being said has to do with ABR, the supplier:
There doesn’t appear to be a “baby body parts for big profits” operation going on there either. Service fees are paying for laboratory facilities and the time of a skilled technician, who is not doing volunteer work. Like a technician in a hospital collecting and preparing medical specimens for study or analysis, that person is paid for the services he or she performs. Nor is ABR voluntarily picking up the tab for attendant screening and shipping, which no doubt involve much more complexity than shipping out an eBay package. Why do you think they should be?
All of this is being mischaracterized. What’s actually being explained is the cost side of a clinical process. All research has associated attendant costs, every step of the way. That doesn’t mean that it’s totally mercenary and all about the money to be made. It’s about a simple fact of life: that everything one does having costs generally has to be paid for.
@Greg:
Planned parenthood is an abortion mill designed to kill babies and then harvest their organs for profit…..
@Greg: #33
@July 4th American, #34:
Maybe you should work on those analytical reading skills a bit. That’s most decidedly not the meaning of the paragraph Phelim McAleer quoted. It’s only the conclusion that he has correctly calculated most of his readers will reach.
Anyone having even a rudimentary understanding of the costs of the skills and technology required to screen and process biological tissues for possible culturing and subsequent introduction into the body of a patient will know with certainty that no large profits are being made by supplying such tissues, given the dollar amounts cited. Most likely they’re hardly breaking even.
The problem is that the anti-choice, “pro-life” crowd don’t want to figure this out. Doing so would weaken their position—which is not based on reason and logic, but on an appeal to emotion and a dishonest and distorted presentation of the facts. They constantly manufacture and perpetuate such lies and distortions, and have no qualms about doing so. Apparently they believe their intended end justifies any means required to attain it—a sort of thinking that’s common among zealots of every description, which has on more than one occasion turned “pro-life” people into cold-blooded assassins and bomb-planting domestic terrorists. Lies for the Cause is what the Center for Medical Progress was all about. Even the organization’s name is a damn lie.
@Greg:
Lena Dunham: ‘I Still Haven’t Had an Abortion, but I Wish I Had’
@Greg:
I’m presenting logical arguments, and you’re responding with insults directed toward media personalities I’ve never heard of. It’s probably just another sign of The Dawning of the Age of Donald. Today the guy is apparently renegotiating deals with defense contractors—despite the fact that he has no legal authority to do so. Maybe they’re afraid of his magical Twitter Powers.
Perhaps someone should remind him that he has no official legal authority of any kind whatsoever until he has been sworn in as president.
Kellyanne Conway:
Does she not know that the manipulation of stock prices is illegal in the United States, under provisions of of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934?
@Greg:
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There is nothing logical about killing the unborn, that is your fantasy world.
This piece of dogcrap who was sad she had not had an abortion, is an idol of the left, she is one of yours to be proud of…..