Democrats Abandon Due Process

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Kevin D. Williamson:

On September of 2014, Senate Democrats voted to repeal the First Amendment. They were enraged by a Supreme Court decision holding that ordinary constitutional protections for free speech prohibited the government from punishing political activists who had shown a film critical of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the run-up to the 2008 presidential election. This was a straightforward case of classical political speech — critics of Mrs. Clinton arguing that she’d make a poor president and distributing a film making that case — and Democrats, including every single Democrat in the Senate, insisted that that isn’t what the First Amendment is intended to protect.

They started at the beginning, and are making their way down the Bill of Rights, with the Second Amendment and the Fifth Amendment. The Second Amendment holds that “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” while the Fifth provides that no one may “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” These are what are known as civil rights, meaning the rights associated with citizenship, rights having to do with the relationship between people — or “the People” as the Constitution puts it — and their government.

Many Americans do not think of the right to keep and bear arms as a civil right, but they are mistaken. It helps to understand things from the point of view of the Founders and the 18th-century radical liberals whose ideas shaped our republic. Prior to the American founding, the right to keep and bear arms was generally limited to the aristocracy; it was, like the possession of a title or a coat of arms (coat of what?), a bright and dramatic dividing line between the ruling class and the ruled classes, between the Whos and Whoms of society. Arguments about licensing the carry of weapons are hardly new: Caravaggio was arrested for carrying without a license (a sword, in his case) in 1598 near the Piazza Navona in Rome at 3 a.m.

The bearing of arms is a sign of citizenship, which is to say, of being a full participant in government who acts through it, as opposed to subjectship, the state of being a passive being who does not act through government but who is acted upon. In that sense, it is like the ability to vote or to be eligible for service in government. Frederick Douglass understood this linkage perfectly, inasmuch as these ideas were much better understood in those more literate days. “A man’s rights rest in three boxes,” he said. “The ballot box, jury box, and the cartridge box. Let no man be kept from the ballot box because of his color. Let no woman be kept from the ballot box because of her sex.” The militias contemplated by the Second Amendment were armed citizen volunteers who could act to use the force of arms to keep the peace in an emergency; they are entitled to act in the peacekeeping role generally reserved for the state because, being the citizens of a republic, they are the state, the very seat of its sovereignty. The formal government is a provisional arrangement (hence regular elections) constituted as a convenience. While the Second Amendment may not codify a “right of revolution,” as some put it, the idea of armed citizens pushing out a government that had become inconvenient, a burden on their liberties rather than a guarantor of them, could hardly have been alien to a group of men who had just risked their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor doing just that.

The Fifth Amendment, with its emphasis on process, is an expression of the republican ideal of justice, which is oriented toward process rather than outcomes. The classical liberal view is that justice has two components, a procedural one and a substantive one, and that the law is organized to ensure procedural justice, i.e., that all men are treated equally and that no one is penalized without the formal criteria of the law having been satisfied. This is why even the worst criminals, caught red-handed in the act, are given trials with legal representation, the presentation of evidence, a robust defense, and the consideration of a jury rather than being torn to pieces in the street. Lynching a child molester might satisfy substantive justice in that the offender did indeed deserve to die for his crimes, but it does not satisfy procedural justice, which is what the law concerns itself with. Because mobs are prone to error and easily misled, one of the functions of procedural justice is to protect substantive justice (beyond a reasonable doubt and all that), but it also exists to ensure the orderly functioning of a society under the rule of law, which is why we generally accept the enforcement of unjust or unwise laws (e.g., the prohibition of marijuana) while we work to change them.

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The Dirty Dastdadly Demacrats the dirty dirty jackass vote to repeal the U.S. Constitution and replace it with the UN Charter GLUE FACTORY FOR THE JACKASS

More Democrat foolishness followed the 3rd Freddie Gray trial ending in a Not Guilty verdict:
Tessa Hill Aston, president of the Baltimore chapter of the NAACP said,”The criminal charges didn’t hold up in court, but that doesn’t mean the police didn’t do something wrong in the eyes of the community. There has been no justice for Freddie Gray.”

Well, dearie, democrat, guess what?
Criminal charges are NOT measured by the eyes of the community.
That is called, Mob Rule!
If you do something wrong, I bet you would MUCH rather be judged by Law as opposed to a mob.

aston is a liberal big mouth fool-the only justice- family received over $4 million. wonder if it is all spent.?
the old farts in the house with the 60-70’s style sit in-most of them needed new diapers by the end of the day. idiot ryan could have cleared chambers with security

John Lewis and his fellow mules remember the line from SWING ON A STAR was A MULE IS A ANIMAL WITH LONG FUNNY EARS,HE KICKS UP AT ANYTHING HE HEARS,HIS BACK IS BRAWNY BUT HIS MIND IS WEAK HE’S JUST PLAIN STUPID WITH A STUBBORN STREAK

On September of 2014, Senate Democrats voted to repeal the First Amendment.

I believe he’s referring to the effort by Senate Democrats to prevent special interests that have enormous amounts of money behind them from using it to purchase unlimited political power and influence.

Republicans blocked that. Because they’ve already been bought and paid for by special interests having enormous amounts of money behind them. But don’t worry about it. They’re only thinking of the average person’s best interests.

Can you give a link to the Democrats that voted on this September 2014? I want to know how mine voted.

@Songbird: The reason I ask is because I think Joe Manchin of WV did a bad job of explaining his statement “the due process is killing us”. I believe he was talking about rules that keep law enforcement from acting to investigate or arrest, take into custody possible terrorists. Maybe an example might be only being able to keep someone in custody 3 days without charging them with a crime. Maybe the requirements to continue wire taps or surveillance should be longer if a threat of terrorism. Some different rules if it is related to terrorism might help and not hurt our rights.

This was said during the discussion of why the FBI did not continue to follow Maated., Why he was dropped by the FBI and no continued surveillance. Maybe these are procedural defiinitions you are referring to.

I would not be surprised if the Feds are saying any changes would be unconstitutional., a violation of due process under the Constitution. I am no lawyer but I know Joe Mansion’s record as governor and senator. He is the only Democrat I know with a lick of sense.

He is a member of the NRA. His campaign photo was holding a gun. I am sure he was talking about how to keep potential terrorists on the radar or in jail They can’t profile or watch a mosque. That kind of stuff. They need some new terrorism protocols.

People are on the no fly list for a reason. In my opinion add them to the terror watch list (they are likely there anyway) and no gun purchases. My point is they need to be watched anyway. Make a procedure with a common sense way of getting off the list if there is an error. The list would need to be secret if you are keeping eyes on potential terrorists. If you are blocked at some point like a gun purchase you should be told why and you can get off the list without a hassle.

I am not disputing anything people have said here about the topic, just there may be more to the story.

The demac-BRAT have all gone home and discovered foo fee bear have moved away