BOMBSHELL: Is Sen. Harry Reid Behind the BLM Land Grab of the Bundy Ranch?

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Gina Cassini:

Website FreeRepublic Exposes BLM “document dump” that suggests attempted cover-up of Sen. Reid/Chinese gov’t takeover of ranch for solar farm.

The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.

The first segment of the document pulled by the feds from BLM.gov.

The first segment of the document pulled by the feds from BLM.gov.

Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”

“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.

The second segment of the document pulled by the feds from BLM.gov.

The second segment of the document pulled by the feds from BLM.gov.

Another BLM report entitled Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone (BLM Technical Note 444) reveals that Bundy’s land in question is within the “Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area” which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for “Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” on land “managed” by BLM.

“In 2012, the BLM and the U.S. Department of Energy published the Final Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States,” the report reads. “The Final Solar Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement assessed the impact of utility-scale solar energy development on public lands in the six southwestern states of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah.”

Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area (Click to enlarge.)

Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area (Click to enlarge.)

“The Approved Resource Management Plan Amendments/Record of Decision (ROD) for Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States implemented a comprehensive solar energy program for public lands in those states and incorporated land use allocations and programmatic and SEZ-specific design features into land use plans in the six-state study area.”

Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well.

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79 Responses to “BOMBSHELL: Is Sen. Harry Reid Behind the BLM Land Grab of the Bundy Ranch?”

  1. 1

    Nanny G

    The irony is that the feds are coming in because (supposedly) that these cattle are endangering the Desert Tortoise.
    But now that deserts in CA have been converted to solar power ”farms,” they have discovered that these are extremely destructive to Desert Tortoises!
    Fact is this land grab (and other ”clean power” land grabs) are not clean or green.
    Bats, Raptors (eagles, hawks, falcons, shrikes, owls and more) migrating birds (ducks, geese, swallows, and more) tortoises are all being wiped out by solar and wind ”farms.”
    Shame on Harry Reid and his son or son-in-law for trying to stay in the shadows on their part of this.
    He should stand proud and openly let America know how much money he is about to make.

    All that said, it is merely a LEASE the rancher is losing, not like Kelo where imminent domain was used to take land and let it sit wasted since.

  2. 2

    ilovebeeswarzone

    THEY TAKE THE RANCHERS FOR IDIOT,
    THEY WILL FIND OUT THAT THEY WON’T LET THEM CEASE THE LAND, AND IF IT’S THAT CHINEESE DEAL
    IT’S EVEN MORE DESPICABLE, TO TAKE HIS CATTLE AND HAVE THEIR DOG THREATENING
    THE GOOD PEOPLE THERE, ARIZONA IS COMING TO GIVE SUPPORT and all the states should stand up with them because they will be next, THEY EVEN SEPARATE THE YOUNG FROM THE THE MOTHERS,
    WHAT A BUNCH OF CREEPS, LAWLESS IS THEM THEIR ATTITUDE NOT THE CITIZENS, THERE I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISE IT IS A BACK DOOR DEAL FROM OBAMA, BUT IT WON’T WORK THIS TIME, HE GOT THE OWNER OF A OIL BUSINESS TO GIVE A MILLION DOLLARS, TO GET OF HIS BACK THE OTHER RANCHER HAVE BEEN STRIP OF HIS CATTLE, ALSO, AND THE LONG TIME CASE OF THE BUSINESS MAKING MUSIC VIOLINS ACCUSE UNTHUTH FULLY OF HAVING BREACH THE LAW HAD TO PAY
    THAT MUCH, THAT IS UN AMERICAN AND FRAUD NOTHING ELSE,
    ALL THE STATES GIVE SUPORT TO THAT FAMILY FOR YOUR SAKE ALSO,
    THEY HAVE PLAYED THAT GAME SINCE THE START OF HIS I WON, MANY HAVE BEEN HASSEL, THIS HAS TO STOP,
    ENOUGH OF SCREWING THE GOOD PEOPLE,

  3. 3

    Bill Burris

    This has the potential to end badly. Ranchers can be a cantankerous lot. They don’t put up with much and they certainly won’t abide by some nerd like Reid, suffering from dementia, stealing their land to make money off of Chinese investors.

    Remind me again which was the party that looked out for the little guy?

  4. 4

    Kraken

    Let’s not forget that this is all about a tortoise that the Federal Government is simultaneously protecting and euthanizing.

    They’re from the government, and they’re here to help you.

  5. 5

    MAKAYA

    I spent years working in some of the wilder open places of the west, very much including Nevada, Wyoming, Idaho, etc. There is a deep loathing reaching outright hatred for the BLM among many ranchers and local authorities, even when they work closely with them.
    One of the greatest is that much BLM land is wholly mismanaged. There is also rife cronyism.

  6. 6

    FAITH7

    @NannyG#1
    “He should stand proud and openly let America know how much money he is about to make.”

    And if HE doesn’t….someone with a mic and a national spotlight should….let his hypocrisy bleed … this guy is scum..

    What is with his fixation with the Koch Brothers…? Jealousy – Envy?

  7. 7

    Smorgasbord

    As with almost all situations like this, just follow the money and it will lead you to the reason something is happening a certain way.

  8. 8

    Ditto

    Rory is Harry’s son. The Federal government “owns” almost 80 percent of Nevada. However, the lands in question are state and county public lands and not part of the Federal government’s portion. The BLM is claiming jurisdiction based on endangered species law. The Feds drove out all the other ranchers who also traditionally used the land for grazing. The reason for the traditional grazing agreement the State of Nevada had with ranchers going back long prior to the creation of the BLM, was because the grazing reduced the proliferation of desert plant-life which invariably in the dry summers resulted in wild range fires that destroyed all life in it’s path. The BLM has also been heavily removing herds of wild horses from the areas which means there will be fewer natural creatures to eat and clear away the vegitation before it becomes dry and flammable. This is another helping in the growing eco-based tyranny that the Federal government is unleashing all over the nation.

    If the solar farms are built with no grazing allowed by cattle or wild horses, the solar farms will find themselves in perpetual and expensive wave after wave of raging range fires.

  9. 9

    Bill Burris

    No doubt, Monday Reid will stand up in the Senate and accuse himself of being involved in running these ranchers off the land they have been using in order to enrich himself and his little boy with money from Chinese investors.

    You just wait and see.

  10. 10

    Nanny G

    Monica Morrill at American Thinker adds another twist to following the money.
    Seems like she’s done some due diligence before writing this up.
    Water Rights.

    [L]and in Clark County has been targeted as property that the BLM can use; the BLM makes an offer to buy the property from the owner (prices vary but it can be a very low market price); the BLM purchases the land; the property is then stripped of the water rights; and the land is resold without the right to water resources. But what good is a farm or ranch without water?

    In other words, the BLM is not only driving out the cattle, the cattle rancher, and potentially any wildlife that depends on the riparian environment. The BLM is setting up a situation whereby the surrounding small towns will also go extinct. The BLM’s actions are ensuring that no one will return to the area.
    ….
    Whoever controls the water controls the vast wealth that is distributed to a network of states at a crucial time during a water shortage.

    http://americanthinker.com/2014/04/bundy_ranch_the_federal_government_and_the_nevada_water_tipping_point.html

  11. 13

    Nanny G

    @Kraken: FTA:

    We will euthanize an animal during the impoundment if they exhibit dangerous characteristics, threaten the health and safety of the employees, display a hopeless prognosis for life.

    When you have non-experts around cattle nearly ANYTHING might be construed as ” exhibiting dangerous characteristics,” or “threatening the health and safety of the employees.”
    And as for “displaying a hopeless prognosis for life,” without water how can these cattle have any other prognoses?

    As a side point about cattle, we knew a guy who had a dairy and beef ranch.
    One evening he was bringing in all his cattle and he fell at a choke point where ALL the animals had to squeeze through to get where they were RUNNING.
    As he watched, flat on the muddy ground, every single animal stepped OVER him or AROUND him.
    He didn’t suffer a scratch!
    He was as amazed as were his family and friends who also ranch.
    He expected broken bones or death.

  12. 14

    oil guy from alberta

    I’m not familiar with the geological survey of Nevada. During my drilling career I’ve met many Americans who had experience drilling geothermal holes in Nevada. I suppose that the Federalis have the mineral and drilling rights to these Federal lands. Are there oil shales in these regions? Who has the geothermal rights? I should ask around. Tortoises and solar farms? Without higher electrical rates and subsidies, in today’s world, solar panels are an investment sinkhole.

  13. 15

    ilovebeeswarzone

    that is enough to start a war, and they would be true to win,
    the federal has no right to act like they did, and they will loose,
    THE PEOPLE ARE NOT COWARD IN THERE, THEY ARE THE BRAVE FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS,
    OBAMA you won’t get this one , LIKE THE EASY EXTORTIONS FROM OTHER WHICH YOU WON,
    THOSE ARE THE GIANTS OF THIS AMERICA, NO WEATHER HAS PUT THEM DOWN NO FEDERAL INJUSTICE TOWARD THEM WILL BREAK THEM, YOU CAN’T TOUCH THEM
    YOU WON’T TAKE THEIR WATER SOURCE, YOU WON’T KEEP THEIR CATTLE,
    YOU WILL LOOSE, OBAMA DON’T HIDE UNDER THE FEDERAL
    YOU ARE THE EXTORTIONER AND ALL KNOW IT,

  14. 16

    David

    Even if the land will be used for “utility-scale” solar and wind development, these type of “farms” still would not produce enough energy.

  15. 17

    Buffalobob

    Other players like the Center for Biological Diversity and the Sierra Club have joined forces in this fiasco under the guise of protecting the ground water. Vote for a democratic at any level and donate one dime to these environmental orgs. join forces with them thinking they are on your side, will come back to bite you in the A$$. Period.

  16. 18

    ilovebeeswarzone

    ON FOX THEY JUST ANOUNCE THAT THIS OPERATION IS OVER, THE FEDS ARE PULLING OUT
    IN THE NEXT TWO DAYS, NO CATTLES WILL BE CEASE,
    THERE IS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER AMERICA IN THERE TODAY,
    YOU PEOPLE HAVE WON, GOD BLESS AMERICA, LETS SING AND THANK GOD,
    YOU THE PEOPLE ARE EXTRAORDINARY, YOUR POWER IS THE GREATEST OF AMERICA,
    AND FOR THIS ONE ONLY FIRST TIME YOU HAVE SHOWN WHAT POWER CAN DO,
    THANK YOU,

  17. 19

    David

    @Ditto:
    Quite true about the removal of wild horses from the open range. In that case, they’re using the “extreme drought conditions” as their excuse. Forget the fact there is little precipitation over the portion of the range they horses live on.

    @oil guy from alberta:
    In Nevada, there is the Chainman Shale formation. Much of it sits in Nevada, with a small portion extending into Utah. Very little exploration has been done with the cancellation of exploration permits and leases by the Department of Interior in 2009. The Obama administration is not interested in shale development, but takes credit for their development conducted on private and state lands. With 85% of the land area in Nevada in federal hands, presumably they also have the mineral and water rights on those lands.

  18. 21

    Ditto

    @Kraken:

    Two bulls were “euthanized.” No doubt after being declared “flat-Earthers,” members of a militia and charged with resisting arrest.

    The BLM has already made agreements for all of the cattle seized (aka “rustled”) to be sold to processors where they will be re-educated into what ecologists call ‘humane treatment” (ie killed) afterward to be relocated to the vast, far expanses of climate controlled supermarkets where they will be displayed to the public who will adopt small portions of the herd for their mutual enjoyment. (The shopper’s)

  19. 22

    MAKAYA

    Ditto:

    Nevada geology is very diverse and locally complex, reflecting many serious mountain-building events and this is reflected in its vast mineral wealth, from oil to uranium, gold, and, well, you name it.

    David:

    I saw which way the ball was bouncing with this administration when, very soon into it, his nibs went on TV bragging about his great environmentalism. He had signed one of his executive orders to forbid even exploration of federal lands in the Escalante region of Southern Utah. This not only locked the resources away, but also quashed investment on federal lands: much money had been already spent in gearing up for a play in Utah and suddenly, it was all gone. Who wants that sort of risk?

  20. 24

    David

    @Makaya:

    So true, no one would want to invest let alone risk that kind of money. In western Colorado, shale development was ready to take off when Salazar cancelled all the leases in 2009. Shell Oil which had invested nearly a billion, may be more, was not happy when the leases were cancelled. Shell got a couple leases back as “pilot projects”. I don’t know what’s to study because all the geological and environmental analyses have already been done.

  21. 26

    ilovebeeswarzone

    they shot two bulls, those nut should have been shot instead of attacking a cattle
    in need of their bull, they did it on purose to stop the natural insimination from the bulls,
    they should be in comptemp to pay for shoothing the bulls out of spite to give trouble to the RANCHER,
    DAM YOU, AND THEY CLAIM TO PROTECT THEIR ENVIRONMENT,
    NOT SO AS WE SEE, THEY ARE THUGS KILLING THE ENVIRONMENT

  22. 29

    ilovebeeswarzone

    federal my foot, THEY FOLLOW ORDER FROM OBAMA,
    HURT PEOPLE, VOTE FOR REVENGE, MAKE THEM PAY,
    CLOSE THE PARKS TO VETERANS, GIVE THEM A PENALTY,
    YOU BETTER SIGN OR ILL GET YOUR ASSES,
    THAT IS THE MINDSET OF OBAMA WHICH REFLECT ON THOSE FEDERAL AGENTS, AND ALL HIS LOYALS FOLLOWERS,
    THE IRS PUNISH THEM WHO EVER EXPOSE OBAMA,HIS THUGS GO TO PEACEFULL CITIZENS AND TELL THEM THEY MUST PAY FOR BREAKING A LAW IN THE 200000PAGES BOOK,
    THEY ARE FREAKING THE PEOPLE WHO PAY, THOSE
    EXTORTIONIST FOR OBAMA,

  23. 30

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Ditto
    a cattel need their bulls , and those federal stupid ass and spitefull revenge on killing the bulls,
    WHO SURELY WHERE PROTECTING THE HERD,
    NOW THERE IS A MILITIA COMING AND THE FEDS FREAKE OUT,
    BEFORE THE MILITIA ARRIVE,
    SOME CONFRONTATION HAD TO BEGIN,
    BECAUSE THE OBAMA HAS BEEN DOING IT HIDDING BEHIND,
    THE ONE WHO FOLLOW HIS EVIL ORDER,
    AND THE COWBOY WILL FIX HIS ASS ONCE AND FOR ALL,

  24. 31

    FAITH7

    What is frustrating is Harry is part of the same ‘political party’ -democrats- who consistently demonizes and consistently contend Republicans just care about the rich… ahem…meanwhile, back on the ‘ranch’ and being the ‘kind’ of ‘caring for the little guy’ that Harry is….he stands to create some (more) ‘wealth’ for himself …hey…is he gonna spread that wealth around and will that be after Obama has lectured him… saying ….hey Harry…”haven’t you made enough?” or before?

    If people do not see the hypocricy of the democrats, the brazen lies….they are just totally lost…

    How’s all that Hopey Changey still working out for everyone? Still like it??

  25. 32

    Ditto

    If only the rancher started spouting poetry, then Harry might have intervened, but seeing as his son stands to profit off the solar land grab deal, probably not.

  26. 33

    MAKAYA

    David:

    Good points. In general, pilot projects are undertaken to assess the engineering and/or cost basis for further development after the resource has been identified, mapped, and geologically evaluated. The understanding is if the pilot processes work out and the cost/benefit is there, the main project goes ahead. I doubt very seriously that will be the result of these particular “pilots.”

  27. 35

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Ditto
    JUGE JEANINE HAS A GOOD SHOW TONIGHT, BETWWEN THE BLN AND BUNDY WOW SHE GAVE IT RAW,
    FOR THE FEDS TO SWALLOW,
    AND SHE WENT ON BENGHASI MORELL ANSWER HE WANTED TO PROTECT THE FEELING OF MUSLIMS

  28. 36

    ilovebeeswarzone

    ANOTHER VET
    NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE,
    THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD LINK YOU PROVIDE,
    they stupidly mentione the turtles to be in danger,
    wow it seem that they are well taken care of in there,
    they are so big it’S obvious they eat well,
    and one was Saying there never been any turtle stepped on by a cattle
    those feds had the wrong idea that trying to intimdate THE GOOD RANCHER,
    BY SCARING HIM AND STEEL HIS CATTLE, THEY SHOT THEMSELVES in the eyes,
    the STATES GOT TOGETHER AND CAME RIGHT IN THEIR FACE WITH THE MILICIA,
    that was good. TO SEE, IT WILL TEACH OBAMA A LESSON ON THE FREEDOM FOR AMERICA,
    IS NOT TO BE LAUGHT AT, AND TAKEN LIGHTLY,

  29. 37

    Smorgasbord

    @Nanny G: #13

    We will euthanize an animal during the impoundment if they exhibit dangerous characteristics, threaten the health and safety of the employees, display a hopeless prognosis for life.

    Replace the words AN ANIMAL with the words THE MILITIA and it might mean what they are actually thinking.

    I have wondered what the actual members of police departments, sheriff’s offices, and federal agencies are thinking about the situation they are in. Are they for it, against it, or don’t have enough info to decide either way? It would be great if each one could be asked anonymously what they thought of the situation. Are most of them really against what is going on, but afraid of loosing their jobs if they don’t do what they are told? We have to keep in mind that they are just doing their job by obeying their superiors.

    If the feds are wrong, this is exactly why our founding fathers said there should be a militia.

  30. 38

    ilovebeeswarzone

    THE KOSH BROTHERS WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THAT,
    maybe we should give them the task To be THE LEADERS OF AMERICA,
    they show success in their businesses, that is better than any speechs,

  31. 39

    Smorgasbord

    @oil guy from alberta: #14

    Without higher electrical rates and subsidies, in today’s world, solar panels are an investment sinkhole.

    So are wind farms, gasohol, and other alternative energy programs, but the businesses who make the devices they use can still make money selling them, knowing that they will cost more to operate than the profits they produce.

    It is like a story on the news many years ago. They told about a foreign aid factory the USA built for a country. I don’t remember which one. This is how foreign aid USUALLY works. The factory had to be built by an American company. The dictator agreed, because he got his cut of the money. They had to hire local workers, so they were happy. The American contractor was paid to build the factory, so they were happy. The contractor donated to the politicians, so they were happy. EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.

    At the end of the story, they showed an areal view of the factory. It was a big factory, and it looked great from the air. Then the reporter said that the only problem was that the factory was built where there wasn’t any electricity.

    Follow the money. It always seems to start with donations to politicians. I’m guessing that a lot of politicians got big donations from people who figure on making money off of the land. If I had enough money, I would donate enough to the politicians I believe in, and tell them just to do the right thing. That way they could vote their concience, and not worry about raising enough money for the elections.

  32. 40

    Smorgasbord

    Keep in mind that over the years there have been inventions that have given cars up to 100 miles per gallon, then either the devise, additive, or the inventor vanish. This has been going on all of my life. A news story will tell of a product that increases the mileage my 20%, and I wait for the device to show up in vehicles, but they never do. I’m told that the oil companies buy the patents, and never make the devices. I don’t know if it is true.

  33. 41

    Redteam

    @Smorgasbord:

    If the feds are wrong, this is exactly why our founding fathers said there should be a militia.

    To protect the citizens from the tyranny of illegal actions by the government.

  34. 44

    Smorgasbord

    @another vet: #25
    I expect to see more militia events like this when the feds try more stuff like this. The only problem I have is the ones who lose their temper, start throwing out the cuss words, and even use threatening movements and language. They have to remember that they are the good guys, and that the propaganda media are only going to report on the most violent ones there, and use it as propaganda against them. They need to use the same standards the Tea Party requires at their rallies: No cussing, no threatening, no inappropriate signs, no arguing, etc.

  35. 45

    ilovebeeswarzone

    SMORGASBORD
    I THOUGHT IT WAS IN AFGHANISTAN,
    yes you’re right about the MILICIA,
    Ithink if i”m right they came from MONTANA,
    am i right? they surely tilt the weight at the right side.
    they made a difference,

  36. 48

    Smorgasbord

    @Redteam: Our founding fathers said that they were more afraid of their own government than anything else. This is why they wanted the citizens to be able to physically defend themselves AGAINST THIER OWN GOVERNMENT. They didn’t want the United States of America to become like what they came from. Their fears have never been more justified than today.

  37. 51

    another vet

    @ilovebeeswarzone: I still read FA everyday. I don’t post as much as before because my tolerance level for the lefties is gone. I don’t bother reading anything the trolls post here and have pretty much stopped reading anything posted by the regular Obamamites as well.

  38. 52

    another vet

    @Smorgasbord: It’ll be interesting to see what the reaction from Obama and Holder will be. Both have power hungry egos. Standing down in the face of a united citizenry as happened here, will no doubt inflame them.

  39. 53

    ilovebeeswarzone

    another vet
    HI,
    I understand because i can’T stand them abuse on people and get away with it,
    this time it had to be the RANCHERS RISING UP TO MEET THEM FACE TO FACE,
    it’s the first time i see a real stand for freedom that meet the abuse they are being given,
    this time they awaken the FRIENDLY GIANT, he stayed firm,
    AND the leaders’sTACTICS ON SUCKING THE PEOPLE BY INTIMIDATION , WILL take a different curve,, PEOPLE ARE NOTICING, THEY CAME OUT OF THEIR SHELL TO WITNESS WHAT THE SOLUTION IS, TO CHANGE THE OFFENDER INTO THE ONE RECIEVING IT, IT WILL
    BENEFIT ALL THE PEOPLE IN BUSINESS,
    TIMES ARE CHANGIN, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME I KNOW, WE HAVE SEEN THE MILITIA
    RIDING ON THE ROAD SLOWLY BUT MAKING A DIFFERENCE AND NO WORDS TELL IT ALL,
    this is not for CHINA OR OTHER FOREIGNER TO BENEFIT FROM, THIS IS OUR LAND AND
    WE ARE HERE TO STAY,
    WE LIKE TO HAVE YOUR OPINION, BALANCE ALL THE TIME, COME BACK WHEN YOU CAN,
    BYE

  40. 54

    Nanny G

    This stand down is more of a hudna than a surrender.
    A hudna is simply a chance to quit the fight until things are more favorable….for your side.
    The militia sent women on horseback to the front in the standoff.
    A smart move.
    Any shooting would have been really bad optics.
    Harry Reid never denied his deal with China for the Tortoise killing solar ”farm,” in all the hours between when that story broke and the BLM stand down.
    More really bad PR that might fade off the front page in a few days or weeks.
    I foresee this whole thing ending badly for the Bundy’s.
    But later, not now.

    Remember the Elian Gonzalez case went exactly this same way.
    They waited until interest died down a bit then blitzed in the dead of night.
    Now Elian is a mouthpiece for the Castro regime.
    Who can blame him?
    They put food in his mouth and a roof over his head as trade while so many others suffer.

  41. 55

    Smorgasbord

    @another vet: #52
    I’m guessing that this was just a test to find out how the public would respond. I’m also guessing that they were surprised how many went, and from how far. Fox News mentioned New Hampshire.

    I can’t take the heat, or I probably would have been there too. I hope this woke up the rest of the country, and if they try something like this someplace else, we will be called to action again.

    This is why I have suggested that every state should start their own militia. This way they can legally have guns no matter what laws the feds may pass, because it is in the Constitution.

  42. 56

    Redteam

    @another vet:

    It’ll be interesting to see what the reaction from Obama and Holder will be. Both have power hungry egos.

    I agree, I’m sure they are planning their next move as soon as the smoke from this one dies down.

  43. 57

    ilovebeeswarzone

    Nanny G
    hi, i would not have put a weapon under the nose of those MILITIA WOMAN,
    THAT WOULD HAVE SENT THE FEDS RUNNING FASTER, WITH BULLET IN THEIR ASSES,
    THOSE MEANT BUSINESS, AND WHERE SENDING THE MESSAGES,
    DON’T THREAD WITH US,
    BYE

  44. 58

    ilovebeeswarzone

    THEY WILL BE RECIEVED THE RIGHT WAY,
    BECAUSE THERE YOU HAVE SMARTER THINKERS, WHO THINK FOR SPORT
    THEY KNOW ALREADY THE NEXT MOVE OF THOSE OBAMA’S THUGS,
    FEDERAL LAND MY FOOT, THEY DEMONSTRATE THEIR ARROGANCE AND LACK OF PEOPLE’S RIGHTS,
    THEY PUSH THEIR MAD DOGS TOWARD THE PEOPLE, IT ALSO HAVE DEMONSTRATE WHAT THEY ARE,
    LOW LIFE SCUMS, CATTLE KILLERS,

  45. 59

    ilovebeeswarzone

    they talk about photo id making it hard on the black to vote,
    that is not right,
    because even the criminals have been photo id,
    why is it so hard, they just have to go and get it,
    it’s easyer than to go to the doctor, and even to go to a doctor they need a photo id,
    why make a big fuss for having an photo identification, which they will need for many other things,

  46. 60

    Ditto

    Reports: Company Tied to Reid’s Son Wants Land in Bundy Standoff

    …Chinese energy giant ENN Energy Group wants to use federal land as part of its effort to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel-building plant in the southern Nevada desert. Rory Reid, the son of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, is representing ENN in their efforts to locate in Nevada.

    Part of the land ENN wants to use was purchased from Clark County at well below appraised value. Rory Reid is the former Clark County Commission chairman, and he persuaded the commission to sell 9,000 acres of county land to ENN on the promise it would provide jobs for the area, Reuters reported in 2012. …

    So it appears the Chinese company bought County Commissioner Rory. Crony Capitalism, selling county land to foreign investors. I wonder what Rory Reid got in return.

    …In addition to the county acreage, the federal Bureau of Land Management at one time was looking at BLM property under dispute with cattle rancher Cliven Bundy. The BLM is headed by former Harry Reid senior policy adviser Neil Kornz.

    According to BizPac Review, BLM documents indicate that the federal property for which Bundy claims grazing rights were under consideration by a solar energy company. Those documents have since been removed from BLM’s website, but BizPac quotes from one of them:

    “Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle.”

    The Obama administration transparency model. When investigations find documents on a website that might be a smoking gun, they are quickly removed.

    The BLM claims a need to control grazing on the land to protect an endangered desert tortoise. But Loesch and others note that in August, the tortoise population in a nearby conservation center was set to be euthanized because of underfunding.

    The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service denied those reports, saying that only unhealthy tortoises would be euthanized and others would be relocated. But KVVU-TV in Las Vegas reported that the agency didn’t say how many of the tortoises in its care were deemed “healthy.”

    Further, Loesch reports, Harry Reid pressured the BLM to change the tortoise’s protected zone to accommodate developer Harvey Whittemore, one of the Democrat’s top donors. Whittemore was convicted in May 2013 of making illegal campaign contributions to him.

    Dirty dealing and Crony capitalism.

    Bundy’s dispute with the government dates to 1993, when land managers cited concern for the federally protected desert tortoise and capped Bundy’s herd on the 158,666-acre Bunkerville allotment at 150 animals.

    Bundy protested by withholding his monthly grazing fees of about $2 per animal, but kept using the range….

    …A BLM helicopter survey last December tallied 568 cattle in a 90-mile swath of federal land in the Gold Butte area. Officials think there could be more, because a March 2011 aerial survey tallied 903 animals, including more than 300 in areas the bureau said couldn’t be reached by teams on the ground.

    Important notes here: the land is owned by Clark County, but the county has been allowing BLM to manage the land. (in other words the ultimate jurisdiction is Clark County and The State of Nevada, NOT the BLM which was an invited entity. There were many more ranchers who also had cattle grazing on the land prior to 1993, but their ranches have folded since they gave in to the BLM’s continually changing demands to reduce their herds. The BLM ordered Bundy to reduce his almost 1000 head heard to 150 cattle, a number which Bundy said would not allow him enough profit to stay in business.

    Notes about the Desert tortoise:

    Status:

    Desert tortoises are currently listed as a threatened species under the endangered species act. In nevada, they are classified as a state protected and threatened species.

    Reason for Status:

    Numbers of desert tortoises in the wild are declining due to habitat loss, fragmentation, and degradation. The spread of easily transmitted diseases, road kills, and illegal collection from wild populations further contribute to the range-wide declines. High levels of predation on juveniles as well as their slow maturation rate make it difficult for populations to recover.

    So, The Reid family’s answer to a “threatened” species, is allowing development on it’s lands, along with euthanasia of undefined numbers, if Democratic politicians stand to profit. As cattle, wild horses and burro’s have been grazing in peaceful coexistence with the desert tortoise for 150 years, I can’t accept the “danger” claim by grazing animals. Especially, when the tortoise on these lands are being euthanized to make way for a solar farm.

  47. 61

    ilovebeeswarzone

    HARRY REID IS ANTI AMERICAIN,
    he would sell AMERICA TO CHINEESE COMPANY TO SCREW THE RANCHERS OF WHAT THEY NEED,
    THAT LAND FOR PROVIDING FOOD FOR AMERICANS, THEY DID FOR SO MANY YEARS,
    and this reid has been given a job in government of AMERICA,
    the citizens are counfounded to see so much crimes done to them for making profit,
    IN THE OLD TIMES, they would be hang on a tall tree, AS TRAITORS OF AMERICA,

  48. 62

    ilovebeeswarzone

    PUBLIC LAND MEAN TO THE PUBLIC,
    MEAN NOT FOR FOREIGNER, BUT PUBLIC AMERICANS,
    ONLY,
    THEY WANT TO DESTROY ANOTHER RANCHER, HE IS THE LAST ONE STANDING,
    REID WANT TO SELL THAT PUBLIC LAND TO CHINA IN A DEAL NOT FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF THAT PUBLIC LAND,
    THE RANCHER IS USING THAT LAND FOR THE CATTLE TO BE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC AMERICAN,
    HE IS WORKING FOR AMERICA
    HE HAS A RIGHT TO STAND FOR HIS RIGHT, THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN ROBBING THE PEOPLE, THE OTHER RANCHERS, AND THE GUITAR MAKER AND THE OIL BUSINESS STEELING
    MILLIONS FROM THEM, THE BUNDY RANCH KNEW IT AND TOLD OBAMA,THIS WILL NOT BE SOLD TO CHINA, HE GAVE HIM A LESSON THAT AMERICA IS NOT FOR SALE ON HIS PUBLIC LAND,
    WHICH BELONG TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC FOREVER,
    HE IS THE LAST STANDING FOR FREEDOM, HE IS RIGHT,

  49. 63

    another vet

    @Smorgasbord: and Redteam

    It was good to see that the Nevada governor and the sheriff went to bat for Bundy. It’s obvious Congress won’t stand up to this administration as they have given it carte blanche to change laws whenever they want (amongst other abuses) and SCOTUS proved with their Obamacare ruling that they can no longer be trusted to uphold the Constitution. We no longer have any real constitutional safeguards at the federal level anymore. About the only thing they safeguard is their own jobs via freebies for their “clients”.

  50. 64

    ilovebeeswarzone

    another vet
    i heard the daughter of BUNDY SAY THAT THE SHERIF DID NOT COME TO TAKE THE SIDE OF THE PEOPLE,
    SHE SAID WE THOUGHT AND WHERE WAITING FOR HIM BECAUSE HE HAS THE POWER TO STOP IT ALL,
    HE NEVER DID
    IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY SAYING THE SHERIF AND GOVERNOR WENT TO BAT?
    IT’S THE FIRST TIME I HEAR THAT A SHERIF LET DOWN HIS CITIZENS,
    I HEARD THE STATE SHERIFS ARE VERY PROTECTIVE OF THEIR POWER OVER CITIZENS,
    IT WAS SAID AGAIN NOT LONG AGO,
    BYE

  51. 66

    ilovebeeswarzone

    STEVE ISRAEL MADE A BIG MISTAKE,
    HE AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE MOST RACIST OF AMERICA,
    AND HISTORY CAN SUPORT IT,
    AND TO COME PUBLICLY AND SAY IT, HE HAD TO BE BOUGHT TO SAY IT,
    FOLLOWING THE HOLDER AND OBAMA INCITING THE BLACKS ON THE COMMOMERATION OF BLACK FREEDOM, THAT WAS THE LOWEST YET,

  52. 67

    Smorgasbord

    @another vet: #63
    When I think about how many government agencies are PURPOSELY going against the US Constitution, and are trying to intimidate people and groups just exercising their rights as American citizens, I am afraid the government has been infiltrated with the purpose of turning the USA into a type of government our founding fathers wanted us to have militias so we could stop it from happening.

    I’m going to guess that the different militias around the country are seeing an increase in the rate of membership, and maybe more militia groups starting up. Who says obama doesn’t know how to unite the people?

  53. 68

    Ditto

    Harry Reid on Bundy Ranch Showdown: ‘It’s not Over’; Rory Reid says Bundy should be Prosecuted

    Citing Reuters News Service, the Drudge Report and another website, Kollman asked Reid if he was in collusion with his son and the “Communist Chinese” to forcibly remove Bundy from his property to help bring more solar energy to Southern Nevada. Kollman said Reid was “papering over” the question of possible collusion.

    Reid replied, “That is an easy question to paper over. Do you know what you just said? Please read something else. And that is how I’m going to respond to that question.”

    The crowd applauded Reid. Kollman then asked Reid, “What are you afraid of, sir?” before Kollman was asked by an organizer to sit down, which he did.

    So an organizer thug, came in to protect Harry from tough questions. This is typical of Democrat’s “management of the Press.”

    What dis Rory Reid have to say?:

    “I think most people care about their reputation and I think he’s been exposed as somebody that has broken the law. The Nevada Cattlemen Association, which is the trade organization that advocates for cattlemen in the state of Nevada—not even they support Cliven Bundy at this point. We believe in a country in which we are subject to laws and you cant just ignore the laws we don’t like. I think clearly if state and local prosecutors look at this more closely, they’re going to find that he broke the law and he should be prosecuted.”

    So, Rory’s position is that “you can’t just ignore the laws you don’t like,” yet he he has never spoken out against President Obama doing that on numerous occasions. That makes Rory a hypocrite and a bully. to his discredit, host Jeff Gillan of KSNV’s What’s Your Point, did not hold Rory Reid’s feet to the fire and ask him to describe his dealings as a lobbyist for the Chinese company, whether it was a conflict of interest for him to represent a Foreign Company as a County Commissioner, or whether the company contributed to Rory’s political campaign.

    This is not surprising, as viewers of What’s Your Point can easily understand that Gillan, like most of the Las Vegas FOX News team displays a decidedly left-wing bias in their reporting. It’s a shame that FOX seems unaware that their Las Vegas affiliate is in leftist control.

  54. 69

    Randy

    @Ditto: Are not all democrats hypocrites? Well, that may not be true. The low information democrat voters are just ill informed. Look at all of the environmental activists who fly all over the world in private jets and use a suburban?

  55. 70

    steven chavez

    I have a Question is this LEGAL? is congress gonna do anything about this act.. I know media stays silent because he is democrat …. this is foul. is he above the law…. seriously obama laughs at our legal system with blatant disregard… My God we have fallen…

  56. 71

    ilovebeeswarzone

    BUNDY SAID HE DOESN’t owe them nothing, and so many believe’d him because he was there with his cattle on a different deal he had made with NEVADA WHICH HE MENTION IS A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY,
    and he paid them,
    and the way they came, that was to destroy him, like they did with other RANCHERS who left and
    where bombarded with change of laws about their rights costing them their live hood,
    BUNDY KNEW OF THE REID ACTIVITY AND HE STOOD UP TO GIVING IN TO THEIR CHINEESE DEAL,
    THIS IS PUBLIC LAND THEY WHERE THERE SO LONG, THEY ARE AMERICAN AND HAVE THE FIRST SAY AS TO WHO LIVE IN THAT PUBLIC LAND, WHICH THE CATTLE DO NOT ENDANGER THE TURTLES
    SO BIG , IT SHOW THEY ARE HAPPY THERE, THE REID USED ALL KIND OF WAYS TO GET THEM OUT,
    HE IS THE LAST RANCHER STANDING UP,
    REID SHOULD GO IN PRISON FOR HAVING TRY TO TAKE THEM OUT FOR MONEY DEAL,
    the first time we see the people resist the obama gang of suckers,
    AND IT WAS BEAUTIFULL TO SEE, HOW THEY GOT THEM PACKING, AND HOW THEIR ARROGANCE CHANGE IN FRONT OF THE MANY SUPPORTERS THIS TIME, THE PEOPLE WON AGAINST EXTORTIONIST, GOVERNMENT,
    this land is only good for RANCH, AND LIKE ONE SAID IT WOULD INGNITE MANY FIRE IF MADE TO HAVE WIND TOWERS AND FROM CHINA ON TOP OF IT, THAT IS CRUSHING A GOOD RANCHER TO BRING CHINA IN THEIR MONEY DEAL,
    THAT’S WHY THEY WHERE THERE HIDDING UNDER FALSE PRETENSE, ACCUSING HIM OF BREAKING THE FEDERALS LAWS,
    THEY TOOK BUNDY FAMILY FOR FOOLS, AND THOUGHT THEY COULD WIN, BY ASKING MILLIONS AGAIN,
    I’M thinking of the many other who could not afford to back the obama scam ,
    WHO COULD NOT AFFORD TO DO THE SAME AND PAID,
    I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THEM DOING THEIR EVIL SCAM ON SO MANY AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY ARE GOVERNMENT HIDING under A MULTIPLE AGENCIES, TO COVER THEIR ASS, it made me so mad to see abuse done on good people,
    WELL NOT THIS TIME BUDDY, you got more than a smidgeon of guilt

  57. 73

    ilovebeeswarzone

    another vet
    that is two rendering of the conflict,
    i read it at fox from the young daughter as a guess to that journalist, very popular,
    that the sherift should have come and stop it, he had more power than the blm ,
    and we never saw him, that was at the end of the conflict,
    that had me vry surprise to hear the sherift not coming,
    because the other states love their sherift and feel protected whith them who have the power over the federal government and over OBAMA,
    AND I READ THE MILITIA CAME FROM MONTANA, AND OTHER PART OF AMERICA,, WHAT A BEAUTIFULL SITE TO SEE THEM COMING ON HORSE BACK SLOWLY ADVANCING ON THE ROAD UNDER A SILENT CROUD OF PEOPLE HAPPY TO SEE THEM,
    YOU SAW THE REAL AMERICA READY TO FACE THE DEVIL ITSELF,
    bye

  58. 74

    another vet

    @ilovebeeswarzone: I saw that, but they were saying he should have disarmed the federal agents. That is something that wouldn’t have happened and he would have been less than smart to try and do so. This was obviously an emotionally charged situation for quite a few people and when emotions drive thought, bad things can happen.

  59. 75

    another vet

    @Ditto: I say let them bring Bundy to federal court if they believe he broke a federal law. That’s the way it’s supposed to work. You don’t show up and take someone’s property at gunpoint without having convicted him first. Reid, Obama, and company can then explain to the American people why they are enforcing the law with Bundy but won’t enforce it in other areas such as illegal immigrants. In addition, they can explain to the American people why the desert tortoises are endangered species where Bundy’s cattle graze but the ones where the Reids’ Chinese buddies want to put up their solar energy sites aren’t. Finally, they can explain why all of a sudden this became such a big issue when it has been 31 years since he was first brought to court over it.

  60. 76

    ilovebeeswarzone

    another vet
    yes that would be embarrassing,
    and they can explain to the court how come the other ranchers close their ranchs because they have been harass, by the federals bulies always changing the law,
    bye

  61. 78

    ilovebeeswarzone

    another vet
    SOMEONE SHOW THE INDEX AND TUMB WITH ONE INCH IN BETWEEN ,
    TO SHOW HOW CLOSE THEY WHERE TO SHOOT,
    IF THEY ATTACK AGAIN IT MIGHT BE THE CALL TO ARMS,
    I’M THINKING , MAYBE THAT IS WHAT OBAMA WANT TO CALL MARTIAL LAW, AND STAY IN POWER,
    BYE

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