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		<title>Fred Thompson: Afghan war &#8216;has been lost&#8217;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;It really doesn&#8217;t matter how President Obama divides the Afghan baby, how he splits the difference between McChrystal and Biden. Because the war has been lost,&#8221; Thompson said on his radio show today.  &#8220;I say this because of one sad and simple fact. The president does not have the will and determination to do [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;It really doesn&#8217;t matter how President Obama divides the Afghan baby, how he splits the difference between McChrystal and Biden. Because the war has been lost,&#8221; Thompson said on his radio show today.  &#8220;I say this because of one sad and simple fact. <strong>The president does not have the will and determination to do what&#8217;s necessary to win it. </strong>His heart&#8217;s not in it, and never has been. <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1109/Fred_Thompson_Afghan_war_has_been_lost.html">The Taliban knows it. Al Qaeda knows it. Our allies know it. And the American people know it.</a></p></blockquote>
<p>He&#8217;s probably right</p>
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		<title>When Did Presidents Lose Their Courage?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This war is a new kind of war. It is different from all other wars of the past, not only in its methods and weapons but also in its geography. It is warfare in terms of every continent, every island, every sea, every air-lane in the world.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>This war is a new kind of war. It is different from all other wars of the past, not only in its methods and weapons but also in its geography. It is warfare in terms of every continent, every island, every sea, every air-lane in the world.</strong></p>
<p>That is the reason why I have asked you to take out and spread before you (the) a map of the whole earth, and to follow with me in the references which I shall make to the world-encircling battle lines of this war. Many questions will, I fear, remain unanswered tonight, but I know you will realize that I cannot cover everything in any one short report to the people. The broad oceans which have been heralded in the past as our protection from attack have become endless battlefields on which we are constantly being challenged by our enemies.</p></blockquote>
<p>This week President Obama is in Asia.  Next week he will be in Europe.  He will actually order his plane-not to land, but to fly AROUND his troops in Afghanistan, his troops in the Persian Gulf, his troops in Iraq, and around Iran where he could land and give diplomacy one last serious chance before Israel attacks and casts the Arab world into war (from the Mediterranean Sea to the Bay of Bengal).  Nope, Obama will fly around all those places-literally dodging his responsibility as a wartime commander and as a peace-seeking statesman.  When did Presidents lose their courage?  Maybe he needs to read up on his Democratic Party idol.  I found it interesting.<br />
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<blockquote><p> MY FELLOW AMERICANS:<br />
Washington&#8217;s Birthday is a most appropriate occasion for us to talk with each other about things as they are today and things as we know they shall be in the future. For eight years, General Washington and his Continental Army were faced continually with formidable odds and recurring defeats. Supplies and equipment were lacking. In a sense, every winter was a Valley Forge. Throughout the thirteen states there existed fifth columnists &#8212; and selfish men, jealous men, fearful men, who proclaimed that Washington&#8217;s cause was hopeless, and that he should ask for a negotiated peace.</p>
<p>Washington&#8217;s conduct in those hard times has provided the model for all Americans ever since &#8212; a model of moral stamina. He held to his course, as it had been charted in the Declaration of Independence. He and the brave men who served with him knew that no man&#8217;s life or fortune was secure without freedom and free institutions.</p>
<p>The present great struggle has taught us increasingly that freedom of person and security of property anywhere in the world depend upon the security of the rights and obligations of liberty and justice everywhere in the world.</p>
<p>This war is a new kind of war. It is different from all other wars of the past, not only in its methods and weapons but also in its geography. It is warfare in terms of every continent, every island, every sea, every air-lane in the world.</p>
<p>That is the reason why I have asked you to take out and spread before you (the) a map of the whole earth, and to follow with me in the references which I shall make to the world-encircling battle lines of this war. Many questions will, I fear, remain unanswered tonight, but I know you will realize that I cannot cover everything in any one short report to the people. The broad oceans which have been heralded in the past as our protection from attack have become endless battlefields on which we are constantly being challenged by our enemies.</p>
<p>We must all understand and face the hard fact that our job now is to fight at distances which extend all the way around the globe.</p>
<p>We fight at these vast distances because that is where our enemies are. Until our flow of supplies gives us clear superiority we must keep on striking our enemies wherever and whenever we can meet them, even if, for a while, we have to yield ground. Actually, though, we are taking a heavy toll of the enemy every day that goes by.</p>
<p>We must fight at these vast distances to protect our supply lines and our lines of communication with our allies &#8212; protect these lines from the enemies who are bending every ounce of their strength, striving against time, to cut them. The object of the Nazis and the Japanese is to of course separate the United States, Britain, China and Russia, and to isolate them one from another, so that each will be surrounded and cut off from sources of supplies and reinforcements. It is the old familiar Axis policy of &#8220;divide and conquer.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are those who still think, however, in terms of the days of sailing-ships. They advise us to pull our warships and our planes and our merchant ships into our own home waters and concentrate solely on last ditch defense. But let me illustrate what would happen if we followed such foolish advice.</p>
<p>Look at your map. Look at the vast area of China, with its millions of fighting men. Look at the vast area of Russia, with its powerful armies and proven military might. Look at the (British Isles) Islands of Britain, Australia, New Zealand, the Dutch Indies, India, the Near East and the Continent of Africa, with their (re) sources of raw materials &#8212; their resources of raw materials, and of peoples determined to resist Axis domination. Look too at North America, Central America and South America. It is obvious what would happen if all of these great reservoirs of power were cut off from each other either by enemy action or by self-imposed isolation:</p>
<p>(1.) First, in such a case, we could no longer send aid of any kind to China &#8212; to the brave people who, for nearly five years, have withstood Japanese assault, destroyed hundreds of thousands of Japanese soldiers and vast quantities of Japanese war munitions. It is essential that we help China in her magnificent defense and in her inevitable counteroffensive -for that is one important element in the ultimate defeat of Japan.</p>
<p>(2.) Secondly, if we lost communication with the southwest Pacific, all of that area, including Australia and New Zealand and the Dutch Indies, would fall under Japanese domination. Japan in such a case could (then) release great numbers of ships and men to launch attacks on a large scale against the coasts of the Western Hemisphere &#8212; South America and Central America, and North America &#8212; including Alaska. At the same time, she could immediately extend her conquests (to) in the other direction toward India, (and) through the Indian Ocean, to Africa, (and) to the Near East and try to join forces with Germany and Italy.</p>
<p>(3.) Third, if we were to stop sending munitions to the British and the Russians in the Mediterranean area, (and) in the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea, (areas) we would be helping the Nazis to overrun Turkey, and Syria, and Iraq, and Persia &#8212; that is now called Iran &#8212; Egypt and the Suez Canal, the whole coast of North Africa itself and with that inevitably the whole coast of West Africa &#8212; putting Germany within easy striking distance of South America &#8212; fifteen hundred miles away.</p>
<p>(4.) Fourth, if by such a fatuous policy, we ceased to protect the North Atlantic supply line to Britain and to Russia, we would help to cripple the splendid counter-offensive by Russia against the Nazis, and we would help to deprive Britain of essential food supplies and munitions.</p>
<p>Those Americans who believed that we could live under the illusion of isolationism wanted the American eagle to imitate the tactics of the ostrich. Now, many of those same people, afraid that we may be sticking our necks out, want our national bird to be turned into a turtle. But we prefer to retain the eagle as it is &#8212; flying high and striking hard.</p>
<p>I know (that) I speak for the mass of the American people when I say that we reject the turtle policy and will continue increasingly the policy of carrying the war to the enemy in distant lands and distant waters &#8212; as far away as possible from our own home grounds.</p>
<p>There are four main lines of communication now being travelled by our ships: the North Atlantic, the South Atlantic, the Indian Ocean and the South Pacific. These routes are not one-way streets, for the ships (which) that carry our troops and munitions out-bound bring back essential raw materials which we require for our own use.</p>
<p>The maintenance of these vital lines is a very tough job. It is a job which requires tremendous daring, tremendous resourcefulness, and, above all, tremendous production of planes and tanks and guns and also of the ships to carry them. And I speak again for the American people when I say that we can and will do that job.</p>
<p>The defense of the world-wide lines of communication demands &#8212; compel relatively safe use by us of the sea and of the air along the various routes; and this, in turn, depends upon control by the United Nations of (the) many strategic bases along those routes.</p>
<p>Control of the air involves the simultaneous use of two types of planes &#8212; first, the long-range heavy bomber; and, second, the light bombers, the dive bombers, the torpedo planes, (and) the short-range pursuit planes, all of which are essential to (the) cooperate with and protect(ion) (of) the bases and (of) the bombers themselves.</p>
<p>Heavy bombers can fly under their own power from here to the southwest Pacific, either way, but the smaller planes cannot. Therefore, these lighter planes have to be packed in crates and sent on board cargo ships. Look at your map again; and you will see that the route is long &#8212; and at many places perilous &#8212; either across the South Atlantic all the way (a)round South Africa and the Cape of Good Hope, or from California to the East Indies direct. A vessel can make a round trip by either route in about four months, or only three round trips in a whole year.</p>
<p>In spite of the length, (and) in spite of the difficulties of this transportation, I can tell you that in two and a half months we already have a large number of bombers and pursuit planes, manned by American pilots and crews, which are now in daily contact with the enemy in the Southwest Pacific. And thousands of American troops are today in that area engaged in operations not only in the air but on the ground as well.</p>
<p>In this battle area, Japan has had an obvious initial advantage. For she could fly even her short-range planes to the points of attack by using many stepping stones open to &#8212; her bases in a multitude of Pacific islands and also bases on the China coast, Indo-China coast, and in Thailand and Malaya (coasts). Japanese troop transports could go south from Japan and from China through the narrow China Sea, which can be protected by Japanese planes throughout its whole length.</p>
<p>I ask you to look at your maps again, particularly at that portion of the Pacific Ocean lying west of Hawaii. Before this war even started, the Philippine Islands were already surrounded on three sides by Japanese power. On the west, the China side, the Japanese were in possession of the coast of China and the coast of Indo-China which had been yielded to them by the Vichy French. On the North are the islands of Japan themselves, reaching down almost to northern Luzon. On the east, are the Mandated Islands &#8212; which Japan had occupied exclusively, and had fortified in absolute violation of her written word.</p>
<p>The islands that lie between Hawaii and the Philippines &#8212; these islands, hundreds of them, appear only as small dots on most maps, but do not appear at all. But they cover a large strategic area. Guam lies in the middle of them &#8212; a lone outpost which we have never fortified.</p>
<p>Under the Washington Treaty of 1921 we had solemnly agreed not to add to the fortification of the Philippines (Islands). We had no safe naval bases there, so we could not use the islands for extensive naval operations.</p>
<p>Immediately after this war started, the Japanese forces moved down on either side of the Philippines to numerous points south of them &#8212; thereby completely encircling the (Islands) Philippines from north, and south, and east and west.</p>
<p>It is that complete encirclement, with control of the air by Japanese land-based aircraft, which has prevented us from sending substantial reinforcements of men and material to the gallant defenders of the Philippines. For forty years it has always been our strategy &#8212; a strategy born of necessity &#8212; that in the event of a full-scale attack on the Islands by Japan, we should fight a delaying action, attempting to retire slowly into Bataan Peninsula and Corregidor.</p>
<p>We knew that the war as a whole would have to be fought and won by a process of attrition against Japan itself. We knew all along that, with our greater resources, we could ultimately out-build Japan and ultimately overwhelm her on sea, and on land and in the air. We knew that, to obtain our objective, many varieties of operations would be necessary in areas other than the Philippines.</p>
<p>Now nothing that has occurred in the past two months has caused us to revise this basic strategy of necessity &#8212; except that the defense put up by General MacArthur has magnificently exceeded the previous estimates of endurance, and he and his men are gaining eternal glory therefore.</p>
<p>MacArthur&#8217;s army of Filipinos and Americans, and the forces of the United Nations in China, in Burma and the Netherlands East Indies, are all together fulfilling the same essential task. They are making Japan pay an increasingly terrible price for her ambitious attempts to seize control of the whole (Atlantic) Asiatic world. Every Japanese transport sunk off Java is one less transport that they can use to carry reinforcements to their army opposing General MacArthur in Luzon.</p>
<p>It has been said that Japanese gains in the Philippines were made possible only by the success of their surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. I tell you that this is not so.</p>
<p>Even if the attack had not been made your map will show that it would have been a hopeless operation for us to send the Fleet to the Philippines through thousands of miles of ocean, while all those island bases were under the sole control of the Japanese.</p>
<p>The consequences of the attack on Pearl Harbor &#8212; serious as they were &#8212; have been wildly exaggerated in other ways. And these exaggerations come originally from Axis propagandists; but they have been repeated, I regret to say, by Americans in and out of public life.</p>
<p>You and I have the utmost contempt for Americans who, since Pearl Harbor, have whispered or announced &#8220;off the record&#8221; that there was no longer any Pacific Fleet &#8212; that the Fleet was all sunk or destroyed on December 7th &#8212; that more than (1,000) a thousand of our planes were destroyed on the ground. They have suggested slyly that the Government has withheld the truth about casualties &#8212; that eleven or twelve thousand men were killed at Pearl Harbor instead of the figures as officially announced. They have even served the enemy propagandists by spreading the incredible story that ship-loads of bodies of our honored American dead were about to arrive in New York harbor to be put into a common grave.</p>
<p>Almost every Axis broadcast &#8212; Berlin, Rome, Tokyo &#8212; directly quotes Americans who, by speech or in the press, make damnable misstatements such as these.</p>
<p>The American people realize that in many cases details of military operations cannot be disclosed until we are absolutely certain that the announcement will not give to the enemy military information which he does not already possess.</p>
<p>Your Government has unmistakable confidence in your ability to hear the worst, without flinching or losing heart. You must, in turn, have complete confidence that your Government is keeping nothing from you except information that will help the enemy in his attempt to destroy us. In a democracy there is always a solemn pact of truth between government and the people, but there must also always be a full use of discretion, and that word &#8220;discretion&#8221; applies to the critics of government as well.</p>
<p>This is war. The American people want to know, and will be told, the general trend of how the war is going. But they do not wish to help the enemy any more than our fighting forces do, and they will pay little attention to the rumor-mongers and the poison peddlers in our midst.</p>
<p>To pass from the realm of rumor and poison to the field of facts: the number of our officers and men killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor on December seventh was 2,340, and the number wounded was 940. Of all of the combatant ships based on Pearl Harbor &#8212; battleships, heavy cruisers, light cruisers, aircraft carriers, destroyers and submarines &#8212; only three (were) are permanently put out of commission.</p>
<p>Very many of the ships of the Pacific Fleet were not even in Pearl Harbor. Some of those that were there were hit very slightly, and others that were damaged have either rejoined the Fleet by now or are still undergoing repairs. And when those repairs are completed, the ships will be more efficient fighting machines than they were before.</p>
<p>The report that we lost more than a thousand (air)planes at Pearl Harbor is as baseless as the other weird rumors. The Japanese do not know just how many planes they destroyed that day, and I am not going to tell them. But I can say that to date &#8212; and including Pearl Harbor &#8212; we have destroyed considerably more Japanese planes than they have destroyed of ours.</p>
<p>We have most certainly suffered losses &#8212; from Hitler&#8217;s U-Boats in the Atlantic as well as from the Japanese in the Pacific &#8212; and we shall suffer more of them before the turn of the tide. But, speaking for the United States of America, let me say once and for all to the people of the world: We Americans have been compelled to yield ground, but we will regain it. We and the other United Nations are committed to the destruction of the militarism of Japan and Germany. We are daily increasing our strength. Soon, we and not our enemies, will have the offensive; we, not they, will win the final battles; and we, not they, will make the final peace.</p>
<p>Conquered nations in Europe know what the yoke of the Nazis is like. And the people of Korea and of Manchuria know in their flesh the harsh despotism of Japan. All of the people of Asia know that if there is to be an honorable and decent future for any of them or any of (for) us, that future depends on victory by the United Nations over the forces of Axis enslavement.</p>
<p>If a just and durable peace is to be attained, or even if all of us are merely to save our own skins, there is one thought for us here at home to keep uppermost &#8212; the fulfillment of our special task of production &#8211;uninterrupted production. I stress that word &#8220;uninterrupted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Germany, Italy and Japan are very close to their maximum output of planes, guns, tanks and ships. The United Nations are not &#8212; especially the United States of America.</p>
<p>Our first job then is to build up production &#8212; uninterrupted production &#8212; so that the United Nations can maintain control of the seas and attain control of the air &#8212; not merely a slight superiority, but an overwhelming superiority.</p>
<p>On January 6th of this year, I set certain definite goals of production for airplanes, tanks, guns and ships. The Axis propagandists called them fantastic. Tonight, nearly two months later, and after a careful survey of progress by Donald Nelson and others charged with responsibility for our production, I can tell you that those goals will be attained.</p>
<p>In every part of the country, experts in production and the men and women at work in the plants are giving loyal service. With few exceptions, labor, capital and farming realize that this is no time either to make undue profits or to gain special advantages, one over the other.</p>
<p>We are calling for new plants and additions &#8212; additions to old plants. (and) We are calling for plant conversion to war needs. We are seeking more men and more women to run them. We are working longer hours. We are coming to realize that one extra plane or extra tank or extra gun or extra ship completed tomorrow may, in a few months, turn the tide on some distant battlefield; it may make the difference between life and death for some of our own fighting men. We know now that if we lose this war it will be generations or even centuries before our conception of democracy can live again. And we can lose this war only if use slow up our effort or if we waste our ammunition sniping at each other.</p>
<p>Here are three high purposes for every American:</p>
<p>1.</p>
<p>We shall not stop work for a single day. If any dispute arises we shall keep on working while the dispute is solved by mediation, or conciliation or arbitration &#8212; until the war is won.<br />
2.</p>
<p>We shall not demand special gains or special privileges or special advantages for any one group or occupation.<br />
3.</p>
<p>We shall give up conveniences and modify the routine of our lives if our country asks us to do so. We will do it cheerfully, remembering that the common enemy seeks to destroy every home and every freedom in every part of our land.</p>
<p>This generation of Americans has come to realize, with a present and personal realization, that there is something larger and more important than the life of any individual or of any individual group &#8212; something for which a man will sacrifice, and gladly sacrifice, not only his pleasures, not only his goods, not only his associations with those he loves, but his life itself. In time of crisis when the future is in the balance, we come to understand, with full recognition and devotion, what this nation is and what we owe to it.</p>
<p>The Axis propagandists have tried in various evil ways to destroy our determination and our morale. Failing in that, they are now trying to destroy our confidence in our own allies. They say that the British are finished &#8212; that the Russians and the Chinese are about to quit. Patriotic and sensible Americans will reject these absurdities. And instead of listening to any of this crude propaganda, they will recall some of the things that Nazis and Japanese have said and are still saying about us. Ever since this nation became the arsenal of democracy &#8212; ever since enactment of Lend-Lease &#8212; there has been one persistent theme through all Axis propaganda.</p>
<p>This theme has been that Americans are admittedly rich, (and) that Americans have considerable industrial power &#8212; but that Americans are soft and decadent, that they cannot and will not unite and work and fight.</p>
<p>From Berlin, Rome and Tokyo we have been described as a nation of weaklings &#8212; &#8220;playboys&#8221; &#8212; who would hire British soldiers, or Russian soldiers, or Chinese soldiers to do our fighting for us.</p>
<p>Let them repeat that now!<br />
Let them tell that to General MacArthur and his men.<br />
Let them tell that to the sailors who today are hitting hard in the far waters of the Pacific.<br />
Let them tell that to the boys in the Flying Fortresses.<br />
Let them tell that to the Marines!</p>
<p>The United Nations constitute an association of independent peoples of equal dignity and equal importance. The United Nations are dedicated to a common cause. We share equally and with equal zeal the anguish and the awful sacrifices of war. In the partnership of our common enterprise, we must share in a unified plan in which all of us must play our several parts, each of us being equally indispensable and dependent one on the other.</p>
<p>We have unified command and cooperation and comradeship.</p>
<p>We Americans will contribute unified production and unified acceptance of sacrifice and of effort. That means a national unity that can know no limitations of race or creed or selfish politics. The American people expect that much from themselves. And the American people will find ways and means of expressing their determination to their enemies, including the Japanese Admiral who has said that he will dictate the terms of peace here in the White Mouse.</p>
<p>We of the United Nations are agreed on certain broad principles in the kind of peace we seek. The Atlantic Charter applies not only to the parts of the world that border the Atlantic but to the whole world; disarmament of aggressors, self-determination of nations and peoples, and the four freedoms &#8212; freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from want, and freedom from fear.</p>
<p>The British and the Russian people have known the full fury of Nazi onslaught. There have been times when the fate of London and Moscow was in serious doubt. But there was never the slightest question that either the British or the Russians would yield. And today all the United Nations salute the superb Russian Army as it celebrates the twenty-fourth anniversary of its first assembly.</p>
<p>Though their homeland was overrun, the Dutch people are still fighting stubbornly and powerfully overseas.</p>
<p>The great Chinese people have suffered grievous losses; Chungking has been almost wiped out of existence &#8212; yet it remains the capital of an unbeatable China.</p>
<p>That is the conquering spirit which prevails throughout the United Nations in this war.</p>
<p>The task that we Americans now face will test us to the uttermost. Never before have we been called upon for such a prodigious effort. Never before have we had so little time in which to do so much.</p>
<p>&#8220;These are the times that try men&#8217;s souls.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom Paine wrote those words on a drumhead, by the light of a campfire. That was when Washington&#8217;s little army of ragged, rugged men was retreating across New Jersey, having tasted (nothing) naught but defeat.</p>
<p>And General Washington ordered that these great words written by Tom Paine be read to the men of every regiment in the Continental Army, and this was the assurance given to the first American armed forces:</p>
<p>&#8220;The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered, yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the sacrifice, the more glorious the triumph.&#8221;</p>
<p>So spoke Americans in the year 1776.<br />
So speak Americans today!</p>
<p><a href="http://benturner.com/theirs/roosevelt.php">FEBRUARY 23, 1942 AT 10:00 PM , E.W.T.</a></p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[“If you listen to what the Iranians have said publicly and privately over the past week,” one senior administration official said Sunday, “it’s evident that they simply cannot bring themselves to do the deal.” The administration officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were speaking about delicate diplomatic exchanges.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“If you listen to what the Iranians have said publicly and privately over the past week,” one senior administration official said Sunday, “it’s evident that they simply cannot bring themselves to do the deal.” The administration officials <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/world/middleeast/09iran.html?_r=1&#038;hp">spoke on the condition of anonymity </a>because they were speaking about delicate diplomatic exchanges.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Washington (CNN) &#8212; President Obama will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House on Monday evening after a rough stretch in U.S. efforts to settle the decades-old Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  The White House announced the meeting on Sunday.<br />
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Netanyahu is scheduled to address a conference of Jewish groups in Washington on Monday, but <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/08/us.israel/">no meetings had been scheduled between the U.S. and Israeli leaders as of late last week</a>, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday.</p></blockquote>
<p>Chuck Todd at MSNBC is reporting on Facebook that the press is not being allowed to cover the meeting, and there won&#8217;t even be a press corps rep.</p>
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		<title>Pro-Democracy Iranian Dissidents Tell President Obama:  &#8220;You&#8217;re either with us, or against us.&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
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President Obama&#8217;s idea of waging &#8220;aggressive personal diplomacy&#8220;?  Attacking President Bush for blustering belligerence:
But he asserted that Iran’s support for militant groups in Iraq reflected its anxiety over the Bush administration’s policies in the region, including talk of a possible American military strike on Iranian nuclear installations.
Yup.  That explains Iranian aggression for the [...]]]></description>
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<p>President Obama&#8217;s idea of waging &#8220;<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/us/politics/01cnd-obama.html">aggressive personal diplomacy</a>&#8220;?  Attacking President Bush for blustering belligerence:</p>
<blockquote><p>But he asserted that Iran’s support for militant groups in Iraq reflected its anxiety over the Bush administration’s policies in the region, including talk of a possible American military strike on Iranian nuclear installations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup.  That explains Iranian aggression for the last 30 years against the United States.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Israel seizes 500 tons of Iranian weapons <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/05/AR2009110501046.html?nav=hcmoduletmv">on Wednesday</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>Israel displayed on Wednesday the contents of the ship it seized off Cyprus &#8211; crates filled with rockets, missiles, mortars, anti-tank weapons and munitions &#8211; the largest such haul in the country&#8217;s history. Israel&#8217;s claim that the weapons came from Iran were bolstered by Iranian markings on the sides of the containers and what it said was a document proving the ship had set off from an Iranian port.</p>
<p>Israel has not publicly shown the document, however, nor offered evidence to back its assertion that the weapons were headed for Lebanon&#8217;s Hezbollah fighters.<br />
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<p>&#8220;Hezbollah categorically denies it has any connection with the weapons which the Zionist enemy claims it seized,&#8221; the group said in a statement faxed to The Associated Press in Beirut on Thursday.</p>
<p>There was no comment from Lebanese officials.</p>
<p>Israeli defense officials said the arms cache would have given Hezbollah, which fought a monthlong war against the Jewish state in 2006, enough firepower to sustain a full month of fighting on the scale of that war.</p>
<p>However, the officials also said the weapons would not have significantly enhanced Hezbollah rockets&#8217; ability to reach deeper into Israel, as the haul consisted of weapons already in Hezbollah&#8217;s possession.</p>
<p>The defense officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the military has yet to formally comment on the potential value of the shipment&#8217;s contents to militants.</p>
<p>Iran has never acknowledged giving weapons to Hezbollah. Proof of large-scale Iranian weapons shipments to its proxy forces on Israel&#8217;s borders could reinforce Israeli demands for tough action &#8211; possibly even a pre-emptive strike &#8211; against Iran&#8217;s nuclear facilities. </p>
<p>Israel sees Iran as its biggest threat because of what it believes to be Tehran&#8217;s ambitions to acquire atomic weapons. Iran says its nuclear program seeks only to generate energy.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Anyone believe that?  </p>
<p>Apparently, President Obama&#8217;s allure is losing its luster from Iranian dissidents themselves.  Pro-Democracy protesters are <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/irans-prodemocracy-protesters-to-obama-with-us-or-against-us-what-a-difference-30-years-makes.html">echoing the &#8220;you&#8217;re either with us, or with the terrorists&#8221; language of President Bush</a>:</p>
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Today, the fundamentalist government in Tehran held protests to commemorate the event, as usual burning the American flag and encouraging shouts of &#8220;Death to America.&#8221;</p>
<p>This time, pro-democracy protesters &#8212; many wearing the movement&#8217;s signature green &#8212; were heard to shout, &#8220;Death to dictators.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the demonstrators, who risked beatings, imprisonment and even death to stage their rebellion, also had a message for the White House.</p>
<p>Witnesses said the protesters could be heard chanting: “Obama, Obama — either you’re with them or you’re with us.”<br />
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<p>The Obama administration has so far been reluctant to convey American support for the demonstrators, fearful it would undercut the protest movement and allow President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad (who some claim can be seen in the 1979 photo above as a young revolutionary) to brand the pro-democracy movement as the work of foreign agitators.</p>
<p>So the White House has so far kept its distance from the movement as the West attempts to negotiate with Iran over its nuclear facilities.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Is it too much to ask of our president that he promote peace by showing support for freedom and democracy across the globe?  That he take the time out of <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;ct=res&#038;cd=1&#038;ved=0CAcQFjAA&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fsistertoldjah.com%2Farchives%2F2009%2F10%2F26%2Fobama-plays-more-golf-than-bush-wheres-the-outrage%2Fcomment-page-1%2F&#038;ei=xTjzStniHYa0swPCkLEO&#038;usg=AFQjCNGXMkuVKbwqX7h3RuIt4Vi44_KBiA&#038;sig2=zDO9mX_6IPi6nwnBOGbkmw">his busy schedule</a> to <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/11/04/obama-cancels-plan-to-attend-20th-anniversary-of-berlin-wall-fall/">recognize historic significance and symbolism</a> in the advancement of democracy?</p>
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<font SIZE=1>Munitions seized by Israeli authorities on a ship near Cyprus, are presented in the port of the Israeli city of Ashdod, Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009. Israeli commandos seized a ship Wednesday that defense officials said was carrying hundreds of tons of weapons from Iran bound for Lebanon&#8217;s Hezbollah guerrillas, the largest arms shipment Israel has ever commandeered.(AP Photo/Tsafrir Abayov ) (Tsafrir Abayov &#8211; AP) </font></center></p>
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		<title>The Left Wingers 10 Great Unanswered Questions</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, left wingers can come up with talking points, and soundbites, but over the past few weeks I&#8217;ve noticed that there are 10 core questions that most on the far left cannot seem to answer with any substance.  Pass em on, try em out, and enjoy the mindfreak.

If all the world hated America because [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, left wingers can come up with talking points, and soundbites, but over the past few weeks I&#8217;ve noticed that there are 10 core questions that most on the far left cannot seem to answer with any substance.  Pass em on, try em out, and enjoy the mindfreak.</p>
<ol>
<li>If all the world hated America because of George W Bush&#8217;s 2003 invasion of Iraq&#8230;.then why was America attacked on Sept 11, 2001; 2yrs before that invasion?</li>
<li>Why has Al Queda been trying to exterminate every American for the past 17yrs?</li>
<li>Did you want Bush to fail in Iraq, or did you want America to succeed?</li>
<li>Given that Osama left Afghanistan in 2001, and Al Queda was largely destroyed in Afghanistan in 2002, how did the Bush Administration &#8220;take its eye off the ball [Afghanistan] by invading Iraq&#8221; in 2003?</li>
<li>What caused the great recession of 2007?</li>
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<li>How have Democrats ensured that we don&#8217;t have another $13 TRILLION dollar Great Recession?</li>
<li>If FOX, Hannity, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, etc are examples of right wing propaganda&#8230;then what is an example of left wing propaganda?</li>
<li>If Republicans lie, and all politicians are liars, then what are some lies told by Democrats?</li>
<li>Since President Obama&#8217;s Israel/Palestine talks have failed, and he&#8217;s been unable to stop Iran&#8217;s nuclear program, and since he&#8217;s completely clueless on what to do in Afghanistan&#8230;what is PLAN B for keeping Israel from bombing Iran and starting a regional-possibly a world war?</li>
<li>Obama&#8217;s a quarter of the way done with his presidency.  What will history record as his greatest accomplishment?</li>
</ol>
<p>btw, I could come up with more, but these were my top 10.  Anyone who thinks they have one that deserves being on the list, please, please, please feel free to suggest it.  I probably won&#8217;t add it out of sheer laziness, but I think we&#8217;d all love to see em.<br />
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		<title>What if Israel strikes Iran from the air?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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When the IAF attacks, Iranian leaders have promised to unleash their missile force. Some intermediate-range ballistic missiles have a high probability of getting through anti-missile defenses and hitting Israeli population centers.

The 620-mile-range Iranian Shahab-3, a derivative of the North Korean No-dong series, is a powerful and dangerous missile. Like the V-2 barrage on London during [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>When the IAF attacks, Iranian leaders have promised to unleash their missile force. Some intermediate-range ballistic missiles have a high probability of getting through anti-missile defenses and hitting Israeli population centers.<br />
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The 620-mile-range Iranian Shahab-3, a derivative of the North Korean No-dong series, is a powerful and dangerous missile. Like the V-2 barrage on London during World War II, innocent people will suffer but the nation will survive, and once an intermediate-range ballistic missile inventory is depleted, that threat is over and unless replenished, it ends.</p>
<p>In an attack against hardened Iranian ground targets, the IAF will first have to neutralize Iranian air defenses, including Iran&#8217;s air force. Iran&#8217;s current air order of battle includes a mix of Russian, French, Chinese and U.S. design systems, though the actual number of combat-effective aircraft is a guess because of the lack of spare parts and limited insight into the training and tactics of Iranian fighter pilots. However, even older Iranian F-4s, F-14s, MiGs and Sukhois can make a nasty hash of Persian Gulf targets.</p>
<p>So the big unanswered question is: <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/22/timperlake-what-if-israel-strikes-iran-from-the-ai/">What do Russia, China and North Korea do to help their client? </a>Does an IAF attack lead them to race in and provide arms to help Iran? </p></blockquote>
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		<title>ABC News: U.S. Preparing to Bomb Iran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;The Department has an Urgent Operational Need (UON) for the capability to strike hard and deeply buried targets in high threat environments. The MOP is the weapon of choice to meet the requirements of the UON.&#8221; It further states that the request is endorsed by Pacific Command (which has responsibility over North Korea) and Central [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-preparing-bomb-iran/story?id=8765343">The Department has an Urgent Operational Need (UON) for the capability to strike hard and deeply buried targets </a>in high threat environments. The MOP is the weapon of choice to meet the requirements of the UON.&#8221; It further states that the request is endorsed by Pacific Command (which has responsibility over North Korea) and Central Command (which has responsibility over Iran).</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/reprogramming_memo_091006.pdf">link to official USAF request to speed up procurement of special bunker buster bomb</a></p>
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		<title>Behaving Like We Were Just Born Yesterday</title>
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Iranians gather at Azadi (freedom) square to mark the 27th anniversary of Iran&#8217;s Islamic Revolution, as they carry a placard in support of Iran&#8217;s nuclear technology in Tehran February 11, 2006.
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Iran continues to treat us like suckers because we behave like suckers born every minute:
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<center><FONT SIZE=1>Iranians gather at Azadi (freedom) square to mark the 27th anniversary of Iran&#8217;s Islamic Revolution, as they carry a placard in support of Iran&#8217;s nuclear technology in Tehran February 11, 2006.<br />
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<p>Iran continues to treat us like suckers because <a href="http://townhall.com/news/us/2009/09/29/iran_accuses_un_chief_of_parroting_west_on_nukes">we behave like suckers born every minute</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I made it quite clear that when they argue that their nuclear facilities are genuinely for peaceful purposes the burden of proof is on their side,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad said Friday his country has complied with requirements to inform the IAEA six months before a new enrichment facility becomes operational, and was giving 18 months notice.</p>
<p>Iran has agreed to allow the IAEA to inspect the new facility. At the news conference Tuesday, Ban was asked why he didn&#8217;t wait for the U.N. nuclear agency to issue its report, as Ahmadinejad said.</p>
<p>&#8220;To be transparent and credible, when you have such an intent to build facilities, they should have informed _ notified the IAEA long time before, not just before everything would be completed,&#8221; Ban replied.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m raising. So there is a question of transparency. That is why the world leaders have expressed their deep concern and that is why I have also expressed my concern,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;I urged him that Iran as (a) historically rich and proud country should take the constructive role in the international community by making very transparent and directly involvement and engagement in negotiations to prove all the pending issues,&#8221; Ban said.</p>
<p>The secretary-general said he was following up his meeting with Ahmadinejad with a meeting later Tuesday with Iran&#8217;s Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki.</p>
<p>&#8220;I sincerely hope that all these questions pertaining this new facility and other facilities _ all the pending issues concerning nuclear development programs of Iran should be resolved through dialogue in a transparent and objective manner with (the) international atomic agency involved,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>*Groan*&#8230;why do we insist on being played like a violin?</p>
<p>Last week in wake of the disclosure of Iran&#8217;s &#8220;secret&#8221; “semi-industrial enrichment fuel facility”, <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/25/obama-knew-iranians-lied-about-nuclear-facility-still-wanted-to-help-them/">Curt linked</a> to this sentence in the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/02/AR2009060200947.html">WaPo</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>President Barack Obama reiterated that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy _ provided it takes steps to <strong>prove its aspirations are peaceful</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Prove its aspirations are peaceful&#8221;?! </p>
<p>Nima Gerami and James M. Acton at <a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/09/28/what_else_is_iran_hiding">Foreign Policy</a> spell it out:</p>
<blockquote><p>the evidence that the new facility is part of a military program is compelling. According to unclassified U.S. government talking points, the clandestine facility near Qom is &#8220;intended to hold approximately 3,000 centrifuges&#8221; of an unknown type. In 2007, Gholamreza Aghazadeh, then head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI), said that Iran&#8217;s target was to have 50,000 centrifuges at its Natanz enrichment facility. This number was needed to make &#8220;meaningful amounts of nuclear fuel&#8221; for one or two commercial-scale power plants to generate electricity.</p>
<p>Thus, by Iran&#8217;s own admission, the Qom facility is too small for civilian purposes. It is not, however, too small to produce meaningful amounts of highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapons program.<br />
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U.S. intelligence also describes the facility as being &#8220;located in an underground tunnel complex on the grounds of an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Base&#8221; unknown to all but the most senior AEOI officials. Links between a supposedly civilian facility and a military organization always worry IAEA inspectors, and they should worry us too. Iran&#8217;s core obligation to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which it says it fully upholds, is to ensure that all its nuclear activities are exclusively for peaceful purposes &#8212; building an underground nuclear facility on a military base certainly raises questions about Iranian intentions. Finally, because it was a clandestine plant, the Qom facility was clearly much more suited to military ends than the facility at Natanz, which is subject to IAEA monitoring.</p></blockquote>
<p>They go on to point out the flaws in Ahmadinejad&#8217;s legal arguments.</p>
<p>What other clandestine facilities and operations do we know about?  Begging the question of how much we don&#8217;t know about.  </p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/world/middleeast/29nuke.html?_r=1">NYTimes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p> Western intelligence officials now want to determine whether there are even more secret enrichment sites. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates dodged the question of whether there were additional sites during a television appearance over the weekend. Washington has said there may be more than a dozen sites involved in the nuclear program, though there have been no public indications as to what they are used for.</p>
<p>Graham Allison, the author of “Nuclear Terrorism” and a Harvard professor who focuses on proliferation, said he could not conceive of Iran’s building only one such site.</p>
<p>“How likely is it that the Qum facility is all there is? Zero. A prudent manager of a serious program would certainly have a number of sites,” he said.</p>
<p>After all, Mr. Allison said, the lesson Iran took away from Israel’s destruction of an Iraqi reactor more than 25 years ago is to spread facilities around the country. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://threatswatch.org/rapidrecon/2009/09/a-manufactured-debate---is-ira/">Steve Schippert</a> points out how this NYTimes article perpetuates the politically motivated <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/03/the-new-suddenly-correct-nie-o/">2007 NIE assessment fairy tale</a> that Iran stopped its work on nuclear weapons designs in 2003.</p>
<p>Does anyone question Iran&#8217;s deceptiveness?  It shouldn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to realize and conclude that Iran&#8217;s nuclear technology ambitions are anything but for peaceful purposes.  If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck&#8230;you don&#8217;t suppose that just maybe&#8230;.by gosh, golly, geewhiz&#8230;maybe&#8230;that it&#8217;s a duck we&#8217;ve been looking at for the last 3 decades?  </p>
<p>How much longer do we engage in this charade?  This international farce?</p>
<p>The disclosure by Iran, prompted by the discovery that western intelligence has known about Qom for years, induced all the usual suspects to wag their fingers, launch &#8220;stern warnings&#8221;, &#8220;harsh&#8221; reprimands, and calls of <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/25/september-may-bring-push-for-iran-sanctions/">facing consequences</a> for the regime&#8230;but <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/27/peace-through-weakness/">no credible threat</a> of military action.  <a href="http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=507185">Just Chocolate Chip Ice Cream Diplomacy</a>.</p>
<p>And how did Tehran receive the soft-serve 31 flavors of verbal tickling?</p>
<p><center><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2009-09-28.jpeg"><img src="http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2009-09-28.jpeg" alt="2009-09-28" title="2009-09-28" width="450" height="296" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-28357" /></a></center><br />
<FONT SIZE=1><center>A Ghadr 1 class Shahab 3 long range missile is prepared for launch during a test from an unknown location in central Iran September 28, 2009. Iran test-fired the missile on Monday which defence analysts have said could hit Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf, state media reported, a move that may irk world powers ahead of rare talks with Tehran this week.<br />
REUTERS/Fars News/Ali Shayegan </center></FONT></p>
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		<title>Peace through Weakness</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Here a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The answer is, of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><center><strong><FONT SIZE=3><em>“Here a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The answer is, of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”</em></FONT></strong></center><br />
<center>-Nicolo Machiavelli, &#8220;The Prince&#8221;</center></p>
<p>In wake of the disclosure that Iran&#8217;s been secretly developing (at least one) secret underground uranium enrichment facility (sounds like spies were caught) or face more harsh words and stern warnings from the &#8220;outraged&#8221; international community, Iran offers <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=8683929">the following response</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Iran said it successfully test-fired short-range missiles during military drills Sunday by the elite Revolutionary Guard, a show of force days after the U.S. warned Tehran over a newly revealed underground nuclear facility it was secretly constructing.</p>
<p>Gen. Hossein Salami, head of the Revolutionary Guard Air Force, said Iran also tested a multiple missile launcher for the first time. The official English-language Press TV showed pictures of at least two missiles being fired simultaneously and said they were from Sunday&#8217;s drill in a central Iran desert. In the clip, men could be heard shouting &#8220;Allahu Akbar&#8221; as the missiles were launched.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are going to respond to any military action in a crushing manner and it doesn&#8217;t make any difference which country or regime has launched the aggression,&#8221; state media quoted Salami as saying. He said the missiles successfully hit their targets.</p></blockquote>
<p>President Obama&#8217;s biggest weakness is the perception (and the reality?) that he is &#8220;no George W. Bush&#8221;; that military action as a means of <a href="http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=507185">kumbaya diplomacy</a> is off the tables and not an option.  In short, <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/09/24/waiting_for_a_fonzie_moment_in_obamas_richie_cunningham_presidency.html">President Obama is not feared</a>.</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad praises Obama.  <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hrsJ4qSe4ne2_544A7Wzg4_uT7TwD9AT2O683">Castro praises</a> Obama.  Chavez praises Obama.  <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Gadhafi-endorses-Obama_-and-other-U_N_-lunacies-8292843-61259692.html">Khaddafi endorses him</a>.  Now why do you suppose this is?</p>
<p>George W. Bush was feared (at least in his first term, up until he became damaged politically).</p>
<p>Gee, I wonder what NK&#8217;s been up to in the shadow of the media spotlight on Iran.</p>
<p>Barack H. Obama is loved.  Is America any safer?</p>
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		<title>Venezuela-Iran:  A Budding Nuclear Love Story</title>
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Love at First Sight
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (R) greets Venezualan President Hugo Chavez in Tehran July 29, 2006. REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi (IRAN)
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<FONT SIZE=2><strong>Love at First Sight</strong></font><FONT SIZE=1><br />
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (R) greets Venezualan President Hugo Chavez in Tehran July 29, 2006. REUTERS/Raheb Homavandi (IRAN)</FONT></center></p>
<p>Last November, <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/28/russia-sells-armstransports-to-chavez-pledges-aid-to-build-nuke-energy-program/">MataHarley mentioned about how Russia was planning to help Hugo Chavez build a nuclear energy program</a>.  Of course, like the typical power-hungry dictator that he is, all he claims to want is to acquire nuclear power for clean energy and peaceful medical purposes.</p>
<p>At this point, they are still in <a href="http://www.startribune.com/world/59389492.html">the planning stages</a>, with Chavez explaining, &#8220;not to worry, folks&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I say it before the world: Venezuela is going to start the process of developing nuclear energy, but we&#8217;re not going to make an atomic bomb, so don&#8217;t be bothering us afterward &#8230; (with) something like what they have against Iran,&#8221; Chavez said Sunday.<br />
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The socialist president is closely allied with Iran and defends its nuclear program while the U.S. and other countries accuse Tehran of having a secret nuclear weapons program.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/25/september-may-bring-push-for-iran-sanctions/">What</a>, what, whaaaat?!  Countries accusing Tehran of ambitions to deceive the &#8220;international community&#8221; on nuclear programs?  <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/09/25/obama-knew-iranians-lied-about-nuclear-facility-still-wanted-to-help-them/">No way</a>!</p>
<p>Iran&#8217;s deception (no surprises there) and the failure of the international community to curb its nuclear ambitions, is inspiring the Viper of Venezuela to emulate the defiance of Iran.  Equally troubling, is news of nuclear collaboration by this budding &#8220;<a href="http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/09/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-hugo-chavez-opinions-columnists-claudia-rosett.html">Axis of Unity</a>&#8220;:</p>
<blockquote><p>the label that Iran&#8217;s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Venezuela&#8217;s President Hugo Chavez have themselves chosen for their alliance. The rise of this partnership, according to Morgenthau, dates from Ahmadinejad&#8217;s election as president of Iran in 2005. At that point, said Morgenthau, what had been relatively routine ties between the two countries &#8220;changed dramatically.&#8221;</p>
<p>Over the past four years, the two despotic rulers have exchanged multiple visits, struck extensive military and business deals between their two countries, supported each other in cultivating policies and practices hostile to the U.S. and introduced each other to like-minded actors in their respective regions of Latin America and the Middle East.</p>
<p>Morgenthau cited reports that Iran has been building and running mysterious factories in parts of Venezuela so remote that they lack such basic amenities as restaurants and grocery stores. He added that since 2006, Iran has been embedding advisers with the Venezuelan military&#8211;which has thrown out its old U.S. army field manual and replaced it with instructions in asymmetric warfare as taught to Iran&#8217;s Revolutionary Guard Corps and Iranian-backed terrorist groups Hezbollah and Hamas.</p>
<p>Iran has also opened a bank in Venezuela, the Banco Internacional de Desarrollo, or BID. With Iran already under a long list of U.S. sanctions, as well as under a number of targeted sanctions by the United Nations, the U.S. Treasury last October added the BID to its blacklist. <strong>But Venezuela itself is under no broad sanctions. Its banks enjoy access to the U.S. financial system. Morgenthau warned that this is a &#8220;perfect&#8221; sanctions-busting setup for Venezuela to help Iran process dollar-denominated purchases of materials needed for making missiles, nuclear weapons and roadside bombs.</strong></p>
<p>Morgenthau highlighted two investigations, publicly announced by his office this past year, that have uncovered &#8220;a pervasive system of deceitful and fraudulent practices employed by Iranian entities to move money all over the world without detection.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of these investigations, for which Morgenthau said further results may be announced within the next 30 days, already led to a deferred prosecution agreement this January. In that instance, a British bank, Lloyd&#8217;s TSB, agreed to $350 million in fines and forfeitures for stripping out details that would have identified as illegal more than $300 million worth of Iranian transactions running through the U.S. financial system. Another investigation led to the indictment this spring of a Chinese company, LIMMT, and its manager, Li Fang Wei, for using aliases and shell companies to get around U.S. sanctions meant to block payments involved in &#8220;shipment of banned missile, nuclear and so-called dual-use materials to subsidiaries of the Iranian Defense Industries Organization.&#8221;</p>
<p>Morgenthau warned that &#8220;based on information developed by my office, the Iranians with the help of Venezuela are now engaged in similar economic and proliferation sanctions-busting schemes.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The international body seems adept at issuing &#8220;serious threats&#8221;, &#8220;harsh warnings&#8221;, &#8220;strong reprimands&#8221;, with military action (although unstated) off the tables.  The <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/25/iaea-collapses-into-irrelevance/">IAEA appears inept</a> at preventing illegal nuclear proliferation.  <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/14/intel-reports-saddam-could-hav/">Sanctions did not deter the nuclear ambitions of Saddam</a>; nor have they deterred North Korea or Iran- the other two nations in President Bush&#8217;s &#8220;Axis of Evil&#8221; triumvirate.  Nations undermined sanctions against Saddam by doing business with the Butcher of Baghdad.  </p>
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The most chilling line in Morgenthau&#8217;s talk is hypothetical. But set amid a wealth of detail about mysterious factories, disturbing shipments, covert illicit finance and shared interests of &#8220;two of the world&#8217;s most dangerous regimes&#8221;&#8211;by which he meant Iran and Venezuela&#8211;it sounds like no idle comment. Morgenthau noted that Venezuela&#8217;s location &#8220;Is ideal for building and storing weapons of mass destruction far away from Middle Eastern states threatened by Iran&#8217;s ambition and from the eyes of the international community.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a different picture from the congeniality implied by President Barack Obama&#8217;s handshake with Chavez in April at a Summit of the Americas.</p>
<p>So why is Morgenthau going out on a limb to sound the alarm? He&#8217;s no Republican cowboy. He&#8217;s a Democrat, whose credentials include a ringing endorsement of President Obama&#8217;s pick of Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor when he testified at her confirmation hearings in July. Now 90 years old, still spry, but planning to retire at the end of December, Morgenthau as New York District Attorney has spent 34 years pounding one of America&#8217;s most vital law enforcement beats.</p>
<p>What this legendary DA has discovered about growing ties between Iran and Venezuela has evidently left him so concerned that he specifically asked for a Washington venue to deliver his public briefing on the subject. He spoke at a lunch at the Brookings Institution, hosted by a think-tank program called Global Financial Integrity, and The American Interest magazine. The full text of his remarks is now posted on his office&#8217;s Web site.</p>
<p>Morgenthau noted that his office and other law enforcement agencies &#8220;can play a small but important role&#8221; in trying to stop the flow of illicit funds, which he called &#8220;the lifeblood&#8221; of Iran&#8217;s nuclear and weapons programs. But he also spelled out that &#8220;Law enforcement in the U.S. alone is not enough to counter the threat effectively.&#8221;</p>
<p>That sounds like a plea to federal authorities, all the way up to President Obama, <strong>to get serious about stopping the rise of the Iranian-Venezuelan &#8220;axis of unity.&#8221;</strong> If this is to be tried via sanctions, then the going has evidently been far too slow and erratic. Morgenthau did not make a direct call for broad sanctions on Venezuela, but he certainly made a terrific case for doing so before the clock strikes midnight.</p>
<p>While Morgenthau was speaking in Washington, Chavez was continuing an 11-day tour that further underscores Venezuela&#8217;s fast-growing role as a hub in Latin America for interests deeply hostile to the U.S.</p>
<p>This included Chavez&#8217;s stopover last weekend in Iran; this was his eighth visit there since Ahmadinejad became president. This time, <strong>making no secret of a shared interest in nuclear technology, the two tyrants declared their intention of setting up an Iranian-Venezuelan &#8220;nuclear village.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And while the U.S. administration has been pondering options such as more stringent efforts to squeeze Iran&#8217;s regime by way of sanctions on its imported gasoline, Venezuela and Iran have been forging ahead on ways to counter such measures. From Iran, Chavez announced a deal in which Venezuela later this fall would start exporting 20,000 barrels of gasoline per day to Iran.
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<p><a href="http://townhall.com/news/world/2009/09/25/venezuela_seeking_uranium_with_irans_help">AP News</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Iran is helping Venezuela to detect uranium deposits and initial evaluations suggest reserves are significant, the South American government said Friday _ the same day world leaders criticized the Islamic republic of secretly building a uranium-enrichment plant that could be used to make an atomic bomb.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14444403">The Economist</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
 The foreign-policy section of Venezuela’s “First Socialist Plan—2007-2013” (dubbed the “Simón Bolívar National Project”) assigns an “integral political alliance” with Iran, Syria, Belarus and Russia the highest priority outside the Latin American and Caribbean region. The rationale for this curious hotchpotch of alliances is the “common anti-imperialist interests” of those five countries—the imperialist in question being America.</p>
<p>Among the scheme’s aims is the strengthening of national defence and sovereignty. Not only the tanks but sophisticated anti-aircraft systems make up the order to Russia. Mr Chávez, a former lieutenant-colonel in Venezuela’s army, says these weapons will make it “very difficult for foreign aircraft to come and bomb us”. Having already spent at least $4.4 billion on Russian weapons, he has now secured an additional $2.2 billion credit-line from that country to lavish on more military hardware. Three submarines are among other possible purchases, press reports say.</p>
<p>In pursuit of his goal to “break North American imperialist hegemony”, the Venezuelan president has deployed to the full his prime asset—the country’s oil reserves. Thus Iran was promised 20,000 barrels of petrol a day, in potential defiance of sanctions advocated by America and despite Venezuela’s current problems supplying its own markets with fuel. Russia’s national oil consortium was also assigned a patch of the Orinoco heavy oil belt.</p>
<p><center>~~~</center></p>
<p>His avowed calculation is that by helping to stir up trouble for America in many places simultaneously, he can bring about the collapse of “the empire”. The regimes he is so assiduously cultivating are, by this account, the nucleus of a new world order. Although this seems far-fetched perhaps the world should start to take him a little more seriously.</p></blockquote>
<p>Chavez clearly wants to play in the big leagues and as a counter-force to the United States.</p>
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		<title>September may bring push for Iran sanctions</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[By ROBERT BURNS
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updated 4:50 p.m. ET, Fri., July 10, 2009
WASHINGTON - After a half-year of extending patient feelers to Iran, President Barack Obama has set a timeline — warning Tehran it must show willingness to negotiate an end to its nuclear program by September or face consequences.
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AP National Security Writer<br />
updated 4:50 p.m. ET, Fri., July 10, 2009</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31854164/ns/politics-white_house/">WASHINGTON </a>- After a half-year of extending patient feelers to Iran, President Barack Obama has set a timeline — warning Tehran it must show willingness to negotiate an end to its nuclear program by September or face consequences.<br />
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Obama said that in September &#8220;we will re-evaluate Iran&#8217;s posture toward negotiating the cessation of a nuclear weapons policy.&#8221; If by then it has not accepted the offer of talks, the United States and &#8220;potentially a lot of other countries&#8221; are going to say &#8220;we need to take further steps,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>The president did not say what steps he has in mind. He mentioned neither sanctions nor military force. But it seems clear that a next step to pressure Iran would entail some form of sanctions.</p></blockquote>
<p>UPDATE:<br />
Today Pres Obama announced that Iran has been building a secret underground nuclear facility and hiding it from the UN for years.  In response, he said that he will bring up the nuclear issue at talks with the Iranians on October 1st (recall the Iranians agreed to talks as long as the nuclear issue was not discussed).  Obama-along w the British and French-then went on to threaten that there might be sanctions if Iran doesn&#8217;t seriously talk about resolving the nuclear issue at the talks where they&#8217;ve already said they won&#8217;t talk about the nuclear issue.</p>
<p>question: At what point does threatening to take action no longer seem as though it&#8217;s a threat?</p>
<p>OBAMA&#8217;S DIPLOMACY HAS FAILED</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[History-like hindsight-is supposed to be 20:20, but the deliberate partisan, political divide regarding the invasion of Iraq makes that hard.  

It&#8217;s not a new phenomenon.  Long ago it was said that the true story of a war can&#8217;t be told until the last of its veterans has passed away, and only a few [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History-like hindsight-is supposed to be 20:20, but the deliberate partisan, political divide regarding the invasion of Iraq makes that hard.  </p>
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<p>It&#8217;s not a new phenomenon.  Long ago it was said that the true story of a war can&#8217;t be told until the last of its veterans has passed away, and only a few months ago did the last World War One veteran go to his great reward.  For decades after the Civil War (and some would argue even today) the debate raged on, and the healing of Southern Reconstruction didn&#8217;t really start culturally until the unity of the Spanish-American War turned foes into brothers-in-arms.  </p>
<p>Conspiracy theories-often fueled by politics-still rage over the 911 attacks, the invasion of Iraq, whether or not Roosevelt deliberately allowed the Pearl Harbor attack to happen, whether or not the U.S. Navy knew the U.S.S. Maine had a boiler explosion and wasn&#8217;t sunk by a mine.  People still think that the Lusitania was set on a suicide mission to get the United States into World War One.  These myths will always remain, and it&#8217;s good that they do because they spark investigation and a search for understanding of these world changing events.  The relationship between the 911 attacks and the invasion of Iraq is interesting in that both have a long list of conspiracy theories attacked to each, and yet the abstract, more indirect relationship between the two events is dismissed out of hand.  To that end, even if one believes the relationship between Iraq War and 911 attacks is a conspiracy theory, it&#8217;s worthwhile to examine if for no other reason than harvesting a better understanding. <span id="more-27452"></span></p>
<p>Opponents of President Bush and of the invasion of Iraq often claim, &#8220;Iraq did not attack the United States on Sept 11, 2001,&#8221; but Germany, Italy, and the rest of the Axis didn&#8217;t attack Pearl Harbor either and yet the U.S. went to war with them as well as the Japanese.  Why?  Because those Axis powers had an alliance, an agreement to help the Japanese.  It was a paper only agreement (history shows us that there were no battles with uber-racist NAZI S.S. troops fighting alongside Japanese troops), but it was an agreement none-the-less.  Additionally, the Axis nations declared war on the United States after the Pearl Harbor attacks.  Similarly, we know from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHspzNEkX7U">Clinton Administration claims</a>, from captured documents, from pre-war and post-war intelligence that Saddam&#8217;s intelligence agencies had relationships with various groups in the Al Queda terrorist network of groups.  We know from the <a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html">1998 Clinton Administration indictment of Osama Bin Laden</a> that the two had reached an agreement to get WMD into the hands of the Al Queda network of terrorist groups.  </p>
<blockquote><p>the indictment states that Al Qaeda reached an agreement<br />
with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that<br />
they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons<br />
development.</p></blockquote>
<p>We also know from 1990-2003 Saddam&#8217;s government considered itself at war with the United States and from 1992-today Osama Bin Laden&#8217;s Al Queda network of terrorist groups has been at war with the United States.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Why did Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda go to war with the United States in 1992?  According to the 911 Commission&#8217;s final report, the reason that the Al Queda network went to war with the United States, and ultimately the reason for the September 11, 2001 attacks was 4 different things (pg48-49)</p>
<blockquote><p>He [Osama Bin Laden] inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam’s holiest sites.<br />
He spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and<br />
he protested U.S. support of Israel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why were American forces in Saudi Arabia from 1992-2001?  They were there for one reason: to enforce no-fly-zones over Iraq which were there to protect Iraqis from Saddam.  If the United States had removed Saddam in 1991, then the U.S. forces wouldn&#8217;t have been needed in Saudi Arabia, and Osama Bin Laden&#8217;s first casus belli wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Why was Osama concerned about the suffering of the Iraqi people?  He was concerned-like many around the globe-because the U.S. led sanctions were starving tens of millions of people as a failed means of influencing Saddam.  Again, had the United States removed Saddam in 1991, Osama Bin Laden&#8217;s second casus belli against the United States-his second reason for the 911 attacks-wouldn&#8217;t have existed.  </p>
<p>Why was Osama Bin Laden so concerned about the United States support for Israel in the 1992-2001 period when Al Queda went to war with the United States?  What was unique about that period in America&#8217;s support for Israel?  In much of the Arab World (and in anti-Semitic circles around the world as well), America&#8217;s continued pressure on Saddam Hussein&#8217;s regime was viewed as an American shield for Israel; as the United States protecting Israel from Saddam and other aggressive Arab regimes.</p>
<p>The historical lesson and inescapable fact is that if the United States had chosen to remove Saddam from power in 1991, OR if the United States had simply walked away from Iraq in 1991 and washed their hands of Saddam&#8217;s regime without trying to compel compliance with United Nations resolutions, then Saddam&#8217;s regime would have remained in power, BUT the reasons for Osama Bin Laden and the Al Queda terrorist networks&#8217; war on the United States simply would not exist; i.e. the reasons for the Sept 11, 2001 attacks wouldn&#8217;t have existed.</p>
<p>Would Osama Bin Laden and his network still have found other reasons to wage war on the United States?  One cannot tell for certain, but it does seem that their nature and their destiny has been to fight superpowers, and with the United States as the sole superpower in the 1990&#8217;s, it seems more than likely other excuses for casus belli would have been claimed.</p>
<p>Would Saddam Hussein have still been a threat to the United States if he had been left in power in 1991, and if the United States didn&#8217;t pursue compliance with U.N. Resolutions?  Absolutely.  In 1992 U.N. inspectors found that Saddam&#8217;s regime had actually built a nuclear bomb, but lacked enriched uranium for it.  From 1992-1995 U.N. inspectors found vast amounts of WMD.  Saddam had invaded or attacked every single one of his neighbors during his reign, he&#8217;d used WMD in the past, had ordered them used against U.S. troops in the 1991 Gulf War (Iraq Survey Group Report, transcript of recording, vol II).  Few reasonable leaders would argue that Saddam was not a threat, and no one would argue that a Saddam Hussein who still had ballistic missiles, WMD, and more in 1992 was not a regional or even global threat.  Determined that he was a threat, Saddam either had to be removed in 1991 by the United States, in the 1991-2003 period by internal forces (multiple attempts at which all failed with increasing futlity), or by the United States in 2003.</p>
<p>The abstract, and more indirect relationship between the 911 attacks and the invasion of Iraq is simple: the war with Al Queda and their attacks on the United States (including the 911 attacks) were blowback, <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/iraq_and_911not_the_same_battl_1.html">consequences, fragmentary effects of the 1991 invasion of Kuwait and Iraq.</a></p>
<p>The DIRECT relationship between the 911 attacks and Saddam&#8217;s regime is far more debated.  To be clear, the hijackers were no more Iraqi than the pilots who bombed Pearl Harbor were German and Italian.  However, the question of direct Iraqi ties to the 911 attacks go back to that very day when-as the attacks were happening-Iraq shot down an unarmed Predator drone over Iraq that was searching for WMD etc.  On that day, after getting sparse, scattered, and chaotic information about the attacks-while they were happening, and while getting 2-3x as many false reports and rumors of attacks, members of the Bush Administration were not at all culpable or irresponsible for asking if Saddam&#8217;s regime was behind the attacks.  </p>
<p>In fact, at the time it had become a common cultural expectation.  During the 1990&#8217;s the Clinton Administration repeatedly claimed that Saddam&#8217;s regime and the Al Queda network worked together.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7n3ivH3pCQ">Mass media reports of the time carried this theme fully and without question.</a>  It was even showing up in movies where characters would claim anything-even meteor showers on New York City were the result of Saddam (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L70wJavN3vI">Armaggeddon</a> ffwd to 1:40).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, on Sept 11, 2001 there was no way to tell if the attacks were directly or just indirectly related to the on-going American war against Saddam (a war that was so poorly reported that most Americans even today fail to realize it even happened, but conversely was so burned into the minds of the Arab Street at the time that it still conjures up bitter memories in the region).  </p>
<p>The question of direct Iraqi involvement in the 911 attacks was investigated first by the Bush Administration, and they found no evidence to make a conclusion.  Subsequent investigations by the CIA, FBI, the House and Senate intelligence committees, the entire intelligence community, the 911 Commission and more all ran into the same problem: there was no evidence.  For political partisans opposed to President Bush and/or the invasion of Iraq that was enough to support their argument that the invasion was somehow not necessary.   The conclusion they promoted-that there was &#8220;no evidence&#8221; of a direct involvement was but 1/3 of the truth.  Another 1/3 was the reason that there was &#8220;no evidence&#8217; was because almost none had been collected or analyzed, and the reason for that (almost always ignored by political opponents of the Iraq invasion) was that from December 1998-December 2002 the United States had not a single spy inside Iraq.  For four years there was no evidence collected, and thus there was &#8220;no evidence.&#8221;  </p>
<blockquote><p>Most alarmingly, after 1998 and the exit of the U.N. inspectors, the CIA had no human intelligence sources inside Iraq who were collecting against the WMD target.<br />
- Senator Pat Roberts 070904 SIC Release of WMD investigation report<br />
Press Conference transcript</p></blockquote>
<p>The last 1/3 is the most obvious, and the most deliberately ignored for political purposes: every single investigation that looked at the question of direct regime ties to the 911 attacks and/or the Al Queda network of terrorist groups <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/04/18/saddams-ties-to-al-quedadebunk/">ALWAYS </a>pointed out that because so little evidence had been collected, the issue was to remain open-not closed or concluded.</p>
<p>After the invasion, innumerable direct ties between the Al Queda network of terrorist groups and Saddam&#8217;s regime have been <a href="http://regimeofterror.com/archives/preinvasion/">uncovered</a>.  These ties are shown in captured and authenticated documents, in the <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/07/11/fmr-interrogator-reveals-saddams-regime-did-have-close-ties-to-al-queda/">interrogation </a>of former regime leaders, and in the <a href="http://regimeofterror.com/archives/2009/07/former_civilian_senior_intelli_1/">capture </a>of Al Queda operatives.  In fact, the relationship between the regime and the network was far far more involved than any relationship between Germany and Japan or Mussolini and Tojo.</p>
<p>Yet it remains a political issue more than a historical one today.  six years after the second invasion of Iraq, eight years after the 911 attacks, 17 years after Osama and the Al Queda network declared war on the United States, and 18 years after the United States and Saddam&#8217;s regime went to war over Kuwait.</p>
<p>Perhaps, now that President Bush is gone, and there is no more need to use the invasion of Iraq as a draw issue for his opposition&#8230;perhaps now people can be mentally brave enough to recognize the undeniable blowback/more-indirect relationship between <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ignored-War-Sam-Pender/dp/1589396642/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1252675355&#038;sr=1-2">the Ignored War on Saddam&#8217;s regime (1991-2001)</a> and the 911 attacks.  There certainly is no more reason to deny this fact, and there&#8217;s no more reason to avoid a conclusive investigation into the depth of regime ties to the Al Queda network of terrorist groups.</p>
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		<title>Netanyahu&#8217;s &#8217;secret visit to Moscow to stop Putin selling weapons to Iran&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, remember that Russian cargo ship that disappeared for a few days, then re-appeared off the coast of Gibraltar after allegedly being attacked by pirates in the Baltic Sea?  Yeah, well, some people claimed that it was carrying Russian air defense weapons to Iran, that the Israelis detected it, captured it, and did something [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, remember that Russian cargo ship that disappeared for a few days, then <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/17/missing-cargo-ship-found">re-appeared off the coast of Gibraltar</a> after allegedly being attacked by pirates in the Baltic Sea?  Yeah, well, some people claimed that it was carrying Russian air defense weapons to Iran, that the <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3765715,00.html">Israelis detected it, captured it, and did something with the weapons.  </a>Those kind of reports need to be taken with a grain of salt to say the least, but the <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1212265/Netanyahus-secret-visit-Moscow-stop-Putin-selling-weapons-Iran.html">tale is getting more interesting.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The ship was officially carrying timber from Finland to Algeria when it was boarded on July 24 by a group of eight men. They were charged with kidnapping and piracy after it was intercepted by Russian warships off Cape Verde</p></blockquote>
<p>Ya know, if any of this story is true, it&#8217;s almost as if Israel doesn&#8217;t have faith in President Obama&#8217;s ability to stop the Iranian nuclear program with diplomacy.  Why on Earth would anyone believe that?</p>
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		<title>Obama&#8217;s 9/9/09 Address to Congress Promises to Be One of The Greatest Speeches in the History of Mankind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bold headlines are attention grabbers, and rarely does the substance of their supporting text prove them correct, but this is a rare moment when (albeit supported by my humble prose) the headline is true.  Tomorrow night President Barack Obama will address Congress and the nation, and it will be one of the greatest speeches [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bold headlines are attention grabbers, and rarely does the substance of their supporting text prove them correct, but this is a rare moment when (albeit supported by my humble prose) the headline is true.  Tomorrow night President Barack Obama will address Congress and the nation, and it will be one of the greatest speeches in the history of mankind.</p>
<p>Now, how do I know that?  Have I seen the speech?  Have I spent the 3-day weekend listening to Churchill, Roosevelt, Kennedy, and re-reading the Gettysburg Address?  Was I there were Herodocus debated with Namenicus on the floor of the Roman Senate?  No, of course not, but the sheer magnitude and audacity of President Obama means that his speech can be nothing shy of a choir of angels.  Thankfully, his one of the greatest orators in modern history, and easily the most inspiring teleprompter-reader of the 21st Century.<br />
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Think about it.  Just two days before the anniversary of the 911 attacks, President Obama will address every American.  The war in Afghanistan that the attacks set in motion is in trouble.  Commanders in the field want more troops.  Democrats, members of Obama&#8217;s own party who control Congress, say they will vote against more troops, and instead want an immediate, unilateral withdrawal, as well as an abandonment of our NATO allies and our Afghan allies.  Obama&#8217;s Admin and the Pentagon have both seen that support for this troubled war is under 50% among the American people, and they worry about increased opposition to the war from&#8230;.his own party?  The Obama Admin and the Pentagon called for Americans to support the war in Afghanistan, and in response his own party demanded a retreat, and anti-war groups have scheduled protests for the G20 Summit in 2wks.  Rather than take this moment in history, just 48hrs before the anniversary of the attacks, to try and build political and popular support for a war that is failing, Obama will talk about healthcare instead.  Man, that&#8217;s bold.  He somehow has calculated that the support from his own party, from the American people, and from the world will come because of nothing more than the eloquence of his address on healthcare.</p>
<p>This speech also comes after the worst Labor Day holiday ever.  More Americans are unemployed now than at any time before on a Labor Day.  The economy is still in the tank despite trillions of dollars in spending.  The American people are furious at the out of control spending (as demonstrated by the Town Hall meetings and so-called Tea Parties and-more importantly-as shown in every poll.  Independents and moderates from both parties are no longer supporting Obama and the Democrats because of this completely out of control spending; spending that is already 3x more than all the money ever spent by the Federal government COMBINED&#8230;..spending that almost 2yrs after the crisis began still has yet to have an effect on the average American.  But, President Obama won&#8217;t be talking about the Great Recession.  He&#8217;s calculated that his speech on healthcare will be so good, so full of awe that the independent swing voters and moderates from both parties will ignore the $2trillion accounting error from last week, the 10% of Americans who are unemployed (15-25% in many states), and the huge decline in both gross domestic product and tax revenues.  President Obama thinks that his speech will be so inspiring that those Americans who are disheartened will come back, will support he and the Democratic Party even as they add MORE spending with yet another government program: healthcare.  He feels he doesn&#8217;t need to address Congress and the nation about The Great Recession.  That&#8217;s confidence.  His speech must be fantastic.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget about Iran either.  Iran&#8217;s been building nuclear bomb factories for the past two decades.  No international pressure has ever even deterred them-not even direct talks with the Bush Administration in Baghdad.  President Obama offered them an open hand, carrots, and diplomacy, and he set a deadline of September 24th (less than 2wks from now).  Over the weekend Iran said that the Obama Admin was lying about nuclear WMD evidence, and that they were willing to have talks, but that the nuclear issue was not to be part of that.  Israel has openly said that they&#8217;re just waiting for the United States to realize that diplomacy has failed, and then they&#8217;re going to bomb Iran.  Iran has said if that happens, they&#8217;ll retaliate against Israel by shooting missiles over American forces in Iraq and the Persian Gulf, and that Iran&#8217;s terrorist allies/proxies will attack the United States.  President Obama&#8217;s not going to talk about this threat of regional-even world war.  Nope.  President Obama has decided he doesn&#8217;t need to address Congress, the nation, and the world about this threat.  His healthcare speech will be so good that the Iranians will stop their belligerence on their own, and they will be inspired towards peace by his healthcare speech in a way that a speech mentioning this very serious threat could never do.</p>
<p>Add to this the healthcare problem itself.  Contrary to straw man rhetorical arguments most Americans want healthcare reform.  C&#8217;mon, everyone has had to fight with an insurance company, rolled their eyes at bills, and we all fear the coverage as much as the disease or injury.  However, 2/3&#8217;s of the American people do not want a single-payer, government option.  The reasons vary, but they don&#8217;t want it.  The far left extremists of Obama&#8217;s party say screw the will of the people, they want a government option, and eventually want a fully socialist healthcare system.  83 House Democrats have said they simply will not vote for any healthcare reform unless it has a government option and can be the first step towards a socialist system.  Contrary to that 52 moderate House Democrats will not vote on any healthcare bill that does include a single-payer, government option.  Oh, and another <a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/house/57565-already-23-dems-have-said-they-will-vote-no-on-reform">23 House Democrats</a>&#8230;.yeah, they&#8217;re not happy with the healthcare reform bill in any event, so they&#8217;re already going to vote against it.  Again, Obama&#8217;s coolness is astounding as he has somehow envisioned hat his speech tomorrow night will be so good, so moving, so perfect that the Democrats in the House will come together and form a healthcare plan that they can all agree on.  (What about Republicans?  Who cares-they&#8217;re not in power to even oppose let alone support a plan)</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait to see the President&#8217;s speech tomorrow night.  He&#8217;s a great speaker.  His task seems impossible, but surely a man doesn&#8217;t call a joint session of Congress, ask every major network to cancel their prime time programming to cover his speech, and ask the American people to view it without expecting it to accomplish something.  Moreover, there is no something anymore.  At this point&#8230;it&#8217;s all or nothing, and he&#8217;s probably not giving the speech for nothing.  He&#8217;s going for it all.</p>
<p>This should be the greatest speech in the history of mankind.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s time to give up on Iran and North Korea</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America&#8217;s adversaries Iran, North Korea and a few others. But for most of those states, it&#8217;s time to give it up, and the Obama administration appears to realize that.
I agree.  There&#8217;s no point in trying carrots or stick diplomacy with Iran [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>President Obama is worthy of admiration for his efforts to improve relations with America&#8217;s adversaries Iran, North Korea and a few others. But for most of those states, it&#8217;s time to give it up, and <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/01/INH7190F4S.DTL">the Obama administration appears to realize that.</a></p></blockquote>
<p>I agree.  There&#8217;s no point in trying carrots or stick diplomacy with Iran or North Korea.  Diplomacy has failed.  I do wonder, however, how the writer plans to deal w NKorea&#8217;s nukes and Iran&#8217;s nukes+terrorist ties?  Just live with it, and wait for something to go wrong/hope that &#8220;sane&#8221; people like Kim and Ahmadinejad can be trusted w nuclear weapons?  Or is the writer advocating support for military action since it&#8217;s obvious that Iran and NKorea cannot be trusted w nuclear weapons, and obvious that diplomacy has failed.</p>
<p>So what is it?  Now that we&#8217;ve established the long-held &#8220;neocon&#8221; claim that diplomacy w NKorea and Iran isn&#8217;t possible-what is it? <span id="more-25720"></span></p>
<p>trust the insane dictators who routinely sell/give weapons to proxy terrorists and rogue regimes<br />
OR<br />
bomb em?</p>
<p>I suspect the leftnut writer from San Fran didn&#8217;t think as far ahead as a 2-move chess player in this matter.</p>
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